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I noticed this when playing certain heavily graphical games under max graphics settings. It's distractingly uncomfortable. I then ran benchmark tests. This is the hottest running phone I've ever used! Few users notice this issue cause few users use the phone for anything other than youtube, chrome, and casual games like skyforce and dead trigger.
I think I know why. The OnePlus company was very upset when people noticed their OnePlus 2 exhibited the biggest amount of thermal throttling among its peers, so with their new OnePlus 3 they simply disabled thermal throttling and let the phone sustain the same performance over time at the expense of massive heat output. The skin temperature on the metal surface of the phone, especially at the top where the chipset is located, gets just shy of 50 C which is what causes first degree burns. Sometimes it can reach that temp and surpass it.
I saw disassembly videos of this phone and there's no design and engineering thought put into thermal dissipation, they just slapped the motherboard at the top and the battery at the bottom. Contrast this with other phones like HTC where they give thermal dissipation careful consideration by putting the motherboard in the middle, then attatching a copper layer on top of it to radiate the heat outward to the edges. Even the ZTE Axon 7 has some kind of heat pipe going through it though I don't know how effective it is.
This kinda makes sense. I've been following OnePlus 3 devs on reddit and they never once gloated about their phone's sustained performance. This is because they know the only reason it didn't throttle was cause they just let it burn your hand.
I'm truly disappointed. The only phone to date that I've seen has excellent thermal dissipation and sustained performance was the HTC One M8. It was truly the best phone ever designed for gaming. Not to mention its immersive dual front facing stereo speakers. It seems we'll never have another phone like that again.
Pong Lenis said:
I noticed this when playing certain heavily graphical games under max graphics settings. It's distractingly uncomfortable. I then ran benchmark tests. This is the hottest running phone I've ever used! Few users notice this issue cause few users use the phone for anything other than youtube, chrome, and casual games like skyforce and dead trigger.
I think I know why. The OnePlus company was very upset when people noticed their OnePlus 2 exhibited the biggest amount of thermal throttling among its peers, so with their new OnePlus 3 they simply disabled thermal throttling and let the phone sustain the same performance over time at the expense of massive heat output. The skin temperature on the metal surface of the phone, especially at the top where the chipset is located, gets just shy of 50 C which is what causes first degree burns. Sometimes it can reach that temp and surpass it.
I saw disassembly videos of this phone and there's no design and engineering thought put into thermal dissipation, they just slapped the motherboard at the top and the battery at the bottom. Contrast this with other phones like HTC where they give thermal dissipation careful consideration by putting the motherboard in the middle, then attatching a copper layer on top of it to radiate the heat outward to the edges. Even the ZTE Axon 7 has some kind of heat pipe going through it though I don't know how effective it is.
This kinda makes sense. I've been following OnePlus 3 devs on reddit and they never once gloated about their phone's sustained performance. This is because they know the only reason it didn't throttle was cause they just let it burn your hand.
I'm truly disappointed. The only phone to date that I've seen has excellent thermal dissipation and sustained performance was the HTC One M8. It was truly the best phone ever designed for gaming. Not to mention its immersive dual front facing stereo speakers. It seems we'll never have another phone like that again.
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One, things depend on temperature of surrounding so if ambient temperature are low then no problems and second I know this they didn't disable thermal throttling they just raised the temperature at which it starts.
As a personal opinion my op3 never got hot(not above 40) even after extended periods of gaming (3-4 hours straight).I have other devices that can easily hit 70 but they don't fell hot due to plastic body and this phone has metal that's why it will be more hotter feeling.Have a good day or night
Sorry for my bad english
Dupleshwar said:
One, things depend on temperature of surrounding so if ambient temperature are low then no problems and second I know this they didn't disable thermal throttling they just raised the temperature at which it starts.
As a personal opinion my op3 never got hot(not above 40) even after extended periods of gaming (3-4 hours straight).I have other devices that can easily hit 70 but they don't fell hot due to plastic body and this phone has metal that's why it will be more hotter feeling.Have a good day or night
Sorry for my bad english
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It's ok you're English being good
So ambient temperature here is 17 C, very cold. I also viewed youtube comparison videos from user YourTechGuide who checks the temps during benchmarks, his results were always the same: OnePlus 3 was always around 10 C degrees hotter than any phone he was comparing it with.
Also one last thing, OnePlus 3 metal surface temps is the one that reaches 50C, its internal temp (the one read by CPU-z) can surpass 70C and 80C.
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Which firmware are you currently using?
Even while charging and playing games the phone only gets slightly warm. It performs much better than any other phone I had before.
Nothing to worry about, this phone is realitive cool, keep in mind our GPU could power a Xbox 360. Expect a little heat.
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So ambient temperature here is 17 C, very cold. I also viewed youtube comparison videos from user YourTechGuide who checks the temps during benchmarks, his results were always the same: OnePlus 3 was always around 10 C degrees hotter than any phone he was comparing it with.
Also one last thing, OnePlus 3 metal surface temps is the one that reaches 50C, its internal temp (the one read by CPU-z) can surpass 70C and 80C.
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Strange never heating issues here but one thing who will anyone run back to back benchmarks what I am saying the test is not very realistic we don't push our devices that much for that much peroids(I also saw the video of back to back an tutu benchmarks on op3) the test is very unrealistic I think.
One more thing I could be wrong also and if someone can correct me with a reason they are welcome:laugh:
The comparisons between Honor 8 Pro and OP5 are going overboard but I am still left with some serious questions:
1. Has anyone's Honor 8 Pro survived drops? The Gorrila Glass 3 doesn't convince me 100%.
2. The OP5 seems to be resistant to water droplets/mild water contact. Does the Honor 8 Pro survive the same?
3. The most important question though is how serious and common is the heating issue? Some are okay with it, some say its dangerous. Can someone explain how badly it heats when using the camera and playing games?
I am in love with the Honor 8 Pro. If the above worries dont turn out to be very serious, I will be glad to be a part of this forum
Help me guys!
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The comparisons between Honor 8 Pro and OP5 are going overboard but I am still left with some serious questions:
1. Has anyone's Honor 8 Pro survived drops? The Gorrila Glass 3 doesn't convince me 100%.
2. The OP5 seems to be resistant to water droplets/mild water contact. Does the Honor 8 Pro survive the same?
3. The most important question though is how serious and common is the heating issue? Some are okay with it, some say its dangerous. Can someone explain how badly it heats when using the camera and playing games?
I am in love with the Honor 8 Pro. If the above worries dont turn out to be very serious, I will be glad to be a part of this forum
Help me guys!
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Regarding the first 2, I don't think anyone will do it on purpose for test. Device screen getting shattered on drop is pure luck. Well, gorilla glass 3 is more scratch resistant than shatter resistant. Gorilla glass 5 is more shatter resistant than scratch resistant. ?
The phone does warm up a bit upto 43 degree Celsius according to reviews. It's upto you whether you find that comfortable or not.
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I'm a casual games but do occasionally try stuff like screen recording while gaming, etc..
taken a few photos..
in both cases, the heat isn't enough to make me feel uncomfortable.
I guess heat on"metal" phone is perhaps a good thing as it means heat is being dissipated via back case.. no?
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The comparisons between Honor 8 Pro and OP5 are going overboard but I am still left with some serious questions:
1. Has anyone's Honor 8 Pro survived drops? The Gorrila Glass 3 doesn't convince me 100%.
2. The OP5 seems to be resistant to water droplets/mild water contact. Does the Honor 8 Pro survive the same?
3. The most important question though is how serious and common is the heating issue? Some are okay with it, some say its dangerous. Can someone explain how badly it heats when using the camera and playing games?
I am in love with the Honor 8 Pro. If the above worries dont turn out to be very serious, I will be glad to be a part of this forum
Help me guys!
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1) I have survived a drop. I am not used to such smooth back finish and I was casual on taking it out of my pocket and it slipped on solid floor and not even a scratch, neither on the back or the glass. Phewww! Escaped!
2) We are having monsoon here and now n then it has again survived the drizzle and wet pockets.
3) The heating issue is quite normal. After almost 2 weeks, according to my use, it seems now there is not much noticeable heating. On the first few days, I was crazy on VR, streaming in FHD and 2k, games and stuff. Now on occasional gaming and regular stuff, the things are much cooler.
mydragoon said:
I'm a casual games but do occasionally try stuff like screen recording while gaming, etc..
taken a few photos..
in both cases, the heat isn't enough to make me feel uncomfortable.
I guess heat on"metal" phone is perhaps a good thing as it means heat is being dissipated via back case.. no?
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Of course, its a good sign to know that heat is being let out but there must be a limit to it right Anyways, seems like the heating isnt worrying
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1) I have survived a drop. I am not used to such smooth back finish and I was casual on taking it out of my pocket and it slipped on solid floor and not even a scratch, neither on the back or the glass. Phewww! Escaped!
2) We are having monsoon here and now n then it has again survived the drizzle and wet pockets.
3) The heating issue is quite normal. After almost 2 weeks, according to my use, it seems now there is not much noticeable heating. On the first few days, I was crazy on VR, streaming in FHD and 2k, games and stuff. Now on occasional gaming and regular stuff, the things are much cooler.
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Thank you for a detailed answer, I am relieved that the heating problem has subsided but can you please tell what's the case while recording videos?
Not the right person to answer since I don't record a lot of videos! The videos that I have recorded till now are not more than 10 mins and while recording those, it warmed a little and definitely not uncomfortable! And yes the camera app never crashed or stopped working neither there was any lagginess or slow down later on!
Isn't Gorilla glas 3 and 5 equally resistant, just that the gorilla glas 5 does have some extra "stuff" (can't bother to Google it)? And the 5 lacks oleophobic coating which means it doesn't resist crease as well, at least that was the case with the P10 Plus in EU.
The heating hasn't been an issue for me at all, though the hottest it's been around here is about 24C. Mostly do gaming when I notice the phone getting warmer.
I can also confirm that the phone stays on in minus Celsius degrees and let's you take photo without a problem, if it helps
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Isn't Gorilla glas 3 and 5 equally resistant, just that the gorilla glas 5 does have some extra "stuff" (can't bother to Google it)? And the 5 lacks oleophobic coating which means it doesn't resist crease as well, at least that was the case with the P10 Plus in EU.
The heating hasn't been an issue for me at all, though the hottest it's been around here is about 24C. Mostly do gaming when I notice the phone getting warmer.
I can also confirm that the phone stays on in minus Celsius degrees and let's you take photo without a problem, if it helps
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For the phone to stay in minus celsius temperatures, I am assuming you are living somewhere high up longitude or altitude wise. Anyways, thanks for your valuable input
You assume (longitude) correctly
I don't think they're serious
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Xiaomi Mi MIX's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Phone gets shockingly bright outdoors. Plenty bright enough for visibility in full sun even with sunglasses on. Not a problem using this on a beach.
Device give a lot of brightness when u are outdoor and u configure it in auto mode... i agree enough to read something on screen...
If you do not want your Mi Mix to be a sandy hottie phone better not expose it directly to sun longer than 10 minutes , and for sure not at the beach hehe , Xiaomi doesn´t love sand.
The visibility outdoors is great without screenprotector.
With screenprotector it is ok but not great
Good, not great.
Very visible
Problem is it can get hot pretty quickly especially if you got the black model
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Problem is it can get hot pretty quickly especially if you got the black model
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That so true but what if u took thu heat an store it in a small casing an use thu presser to charge it at a slow rate to keep thu batter life to stand up longer
Rate this thread to express how you think the Sony Xperia XZ Premium feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
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Not sure how but my the back of my premium has a little scratch on it, and it's only a day old, it's the one with a mirror finished back casing, phone only been placed on table very certain there was nothing under the phone
I just realized the Deepa Sea black has that blue hue that was original used in the frame of the Xperia Z, which I always wanted as a color!
quality maybe good compared to other devices but this one right here is scary when it comes to applying pressure on it as the screen gets faulty easily (yellow spots, pressure points appear easily) so be careful, this will only happen if you constantly apply pressure on your phone, lets say if its in your pocket while your'e sitting it could apply bending pressure on it if its for long period, or if you accidentally sleep over your phone overnight so pressure all night will cause yellow spots and pressure point indicator so be careful! the slightest pressure on this device could cause volume rockers to stop functioning properly or could easily show an indication of pressure on the screen by yellow marks and easy pressure indicator.
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samsung typical cheap plastic trash, hate it, always will, they do intend you to break it easy so you buy another after all.
i dropped my moto z force on concrete tons of times with no damage, not doing that with an s10
edit: nearly forgot this one before, but with the battery moto mod on the moto z force i had before this it was way more comfortable to hold in landscape orientation, the z force without the mod had the same issue though but i have to ding the s10+ cause the only solution is a bulky case that some people probably don't want and even then it's not as comfortable to hold due to the thinness of the device.
Actually the higher the build quality "feel", the more likelihood you will have damage during a drop. The old plastic phones like my Blackberry 15 years ago could be tossed all over the place without a case and keep on chuggin'.
This is why the case industry has grown into a billion dollar business!
That said, the ceramic S10+ is in a league of all its own.
Nobody cares if your cheaper old plastic phone survived drops easily, plastic absorbs impacts in a different way, while scratching and losing material very easily.
This phone is in its own league, it's not made to be dropped since there are other devices for that, but the feel is the best you could get and the ceramic version showed very good durability while having top class comfort.
As a matter of fact this device is one of the most expensive ones to manufacture, if not the most expensive one at all.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Samsung-Galaxy-S10-costs-just-US-420-to-build.411858.0.html
Materials are awesome. I got the ceramic version. But hell, that thing is slippery without a case.
Comparing it to my Note 9 , the Note 9 wins hands down. I'm not just referring to the Note 9 weight either. Example first things I noticed with the s10+, back glass resonates when watching YouTube videos at 50% volume or more. As does some voice calls using the earpiece, I can feel the back glass resonate if the other party has a bassy voice.
Furthermore, no matter what color you chose on the s10 the frame is a painted chrome color, another cost cutting corner by Sammy. Where as on the Note 9 the chassis would also be the same color of the back as was the lens camera surround.
This flagship almost reminds of my favourite chocolate bar of yesterday's. Everything is cut down and reduced.
Don't get me wrong, the build quality is still high, but lower than what my expectations are from Samsung.
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The buttons and the frame are pretty solid. Also, the phone is not heavy weighted, which is excellent for one hand usage. I'm not giving it a 5/5 just because I think that the aluminum frame could be of a better material. It scratches easily. If you simply miss the charging port at night and gently scratch the frame, it will get scuffed.
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Furthermore, no matter what color you chose on the s10 the frame is a painted chrome color, another cost cutting corner by Sammy. Where as on the Note 9 the chassis would also be the same color of the back as was the lens camera surround.
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Are you sure? Dont know there, but here the frame does match the color of the back. My brother got a blue s10 and its frame is different from my white one.
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The buttons and the frame are pretty solid. Also, the phone is not heavy weighted, which is excellent for one hand usage. I'm not giving it a 5/5 just because I think that the aluminum frame could be of a better material. It scratches easily. If you simply miss the charging port at night and gently scratch the frame, it will get scuffed.
Are you sure? Dont know there, but here the frame does match the color of the back. My brother got a blue s10 and its frame is different from my white one.
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They are matching colors like you said.
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Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S10+ feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
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I don't care about back cover materials because I'm using leather case)
Don’t like the light blue color, looks cheap.
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Turkish spam?
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Turkish spam?
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Turkish Doner kebab
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Could you write in english please ?
great
materials are great and feel very premium, the only downside is you need a case