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[Q] Should I update Firmware?

So, I've just started to set up my new AFTV - F'ware version 51.1.0.1 user 510055620
and I've blocked updates with my Router. I'm DEFINITELY not a Techee, and only just managed to install Kodi.
I'm running a VPN to access Netflix from Australia, but haven't yet managed to sideload Netflix ( i've previously had it running on Apple TV) I've sideloaded Kodi Helix 14.0 . I don't anticipate needing to root, and doubt if I could handle the learning curve anyway.
My questions:-
(1) Should I update Firmware and thus forego the ability to root, (which I don't anticipate ever needing to do) or, should I keep running with the old Firmware? If not, what advantages would the newer Firmware provide?
At this early stage, I anticipate only needing Kodi & Netflix.
(2) If I stay with old Firmware (51.1.0.1), what version of Netflix should I sideload?
Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

jonandi said:
So, I've just started to set up my new AFTV - F'ware version 51.1.0.1 user 510055620
and I've blocked updates with my Router. I'm DEFINITELY not a Techee, and only just managed to install Kodi.
I'm running a VPN to access Netflix from Australia, but haven't yet managed to sideload Netflix ( i've previously had it running on Apple TV) I've sideloaded Kodi Helix 14.0 . I don't anticipate needing to root, and doubt if I could handle the learning curve anyway.
My questions:-
(1) Should I update Firmware and thus forego the ability to root, (which I don't anticipate ever needing to do) or, should I keep running with the old Firmware? If not, what advantages would the newer Firmware provide?
At this early stage, I anticipate only needing Kodi & Netflix.
(2) If I stay with old Firmware (51.1.0.1), what version of Netflix should I sideload?
Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
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You should definitely should root aftv. This gives you more freedom to do what you want with fire tv, example use usb as external hard drive, install Google play store, ect. If you update youre fire tv with amazon latest updates You will not be able to root.
Follow this guide root your firetv http://www.aftvnews.com/start/, read first before you start and follow steps carefully. The end process will guide you hoe to upgrade to prerooted firmware if you wish too.
FYI when you push update Firmware to aftv over Wi fi with adb it takes a long time, mine took over 40 min. The guide does not mention this so be patient. Double check each step and adb commands some folks have bricked there fire tv by not following steps in order.
Thanks

jonandi said:
I'm DEFINITELY not a Techee, and only just managed to install Kodi.
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If you've managed to block the updates so far, you're more techie than you admit.
The Fire TV is the first of many Android devices I own and have owned that I have not rooted. With what's available today, I don't feel the need. I can install and run everything I want to. So there's the real question:
What, if anything, do you want to do with it that would require root?

wellersl said:
If you've managed to block the updates so far, you're more techie than you admit.
The Fire TV is the first of many Android devices I own and have owned that I have not rooted. With what's available today, I don't feel the need. I can install and run everything I want to. So there's the real question:
What, if anything, do you want to do with it that would require root?
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Thanks for the prompt replies, guys. I guess the main advantage of rooting would be the ability to play files from an external drive plugged into the USB Port. But, then again, that capacity MAY (?) come with a future F'ware update ( I wish!). Currently I use this facility on my smart TV with an external drive. In the meantime, I'm still in limbo sitting on my update restricted AFTV, but leaning toward biting the bullet & updating firmware.

jonandi said:
Thanks for the prompt replies, guys. I guess the main advantage of rooting would be the ability to play files from an external drive plugged into the USB Port. But, then again, that capacity MAY (?) come with a future F'ware update ( I wish!). Currently I use this facility on my smart TV with an external drive. In the meantime, I'm still in limbo sitting on my update restricted AFTV, but leaning toward biting the bullet & updating firmware.
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Based on that, I'd say leave it rooted. There is aftermarket demand for pre-rooted Fires. The point is, you could *easily* replace that one with a new un-rooted one and possibly come out ahead. And you reminded me -
Never *never* buy something based on what you *think* will happen with it in the future. I'm still sitting on a good blu-ray player that was *supposed* to become a "smart" good, blu-ray player with a firmware update that never happened. :cyclops:

wellersl said:
Based on that, I'd say leave it rooted. There is aftermarket demand for pre-rooted Fires. The point is, you could *easily* replace that one with a new un-rooted one and possibly come out ahead. And you reminded me -
Never *never* buy something based on what you *think* will happen with it in the future. I'm still sitting on a good blu-ray player that was *supposed* to become a "smart" good, blu-ray player with a firmware update that never happened. :cyclops:
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Root the device! Plus they may never give user the option to use USB but instead come out with Amazon Fire TV 2 with 16gb, 32gb or future updates might block you from side loading apps, who know what future updates will bring.
thank you

Advice on firetv v1 about updating firmware...

Hi all,
I've decided to get out another firetv box that i initially purchased over a year ago and wanted to set it up with a bogus amazon account.
So far so good, ... sorted out the account, followed the instructions from aftvnews to pull the lan when required to bypass the initial setup.
email & password and all done.
Now I have just a couple of things i need help with please chaps.....
I know that 51.1.4.0 is not compatible with kodi (in any form).... although I believe that spmc may work on it.
Would it be possible to update a firetv with an original firmware from http://www.aftvnews.com/software/ to the first version that allowed kodi to run.
The reason I ask is that, that first fix by amazon still showed no advertising.
It would be much better if i could root it but as far as I know root is not available for my unit, I tested the serial number over at http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-serial-number-decoder/
and this is what it said:
Rootable: No
Likely Software Version: 51.1.4.0
Manufactured: By Foxconn on 10/7/2014
Hardware Revision: 03
Unit Revision: 09
Condition (New or Refurbished): New
So seeing as I cannot root is there a way to install somehow just the firmware update that i need without removing my opendns blocks.
What would be my best choice please chaps...

Kodi worked fine on my fire tv1 without root and works fine after update and the after root.
Why dont you let it update ( it wiill update if connected and not blocked) and root it ?

wouldn't it make sense to update it to 5.0.5 and root it with kingroot?
Then it would work with Kodi.
I don't think there would be a way to update it other than to have it communicate with amazon and pull the update from them as you don't currently have root access.

slackbladder said:
Hi all,
I've decided to get out another firetv box that i initially purchased over a year ago and wanted to set it up with a bogus amazon account.
So far so good, ... sorted out the account, followed the instructions from aftvnews to pull the lan when required to bypass the initial setup.
email & password and all done.
Now I have just a couple of things i need help with please chaps.....
I know that 51.1.4.0 is not compatible with kodi (in any form).... although I believe that spmc may work on it.
Would it be possible to update a firetv with an original firmware from http://www.aftvnews.com/software/ to the first version that allowed kodi to run.
The reason I ask is that, that first fix by amazon still showed no advertising.
It would be much better if i could root it but as far as I know root is not available for my unit, I tested the serial number over at http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-serial-number-decoder/
and this is what it said:
Rootable: No
Likely Software Version: 51.1.4.0
Manufactured: By Foxconn on 10/7/2014
Hardware Revision: 03
Unit Revision: 09
Condition (New or Refurbished): New
So seeing as I cannot root is there a way to install somehow just the firmware update that i need without removing my opendns blocks.
What would be my best choice please chaps...
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Why do you think KODI does not work under 51.1.4?
Kodi works with all s/w versions rooted or un-rooted. BTW if you update to OS5 you will not be able to use DNS within the box. Will need to use set-up DNS through your router as one option.

Thanks for the replies chaps.... but i'm sure that kodi/variants will not work on 51.1.4.0_user_514005520,...
You can sideload it but it will never work.
That is the same firmware I had on my first box I got over a year ago,...
http://www.aftvnews.com/xbmc-kodi-incompatible-with-fire-tv-software-version-51-1-40_user_514005520/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/xmbc-fc-uk-aftv-t2917248
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Routers out of the question to block updates... that's why I'm using opendns to block updates.
So it's obvious that trying to somehow install an update of my choice is out of the question.... it's either 5.0.5 or nothing. that's fair enough.
But I'm curious about kingroot.... especially as when and if I update then I have the problem of “Self destruct” eFuse added to kernel which gets triggered if an older bootloader is used".
I haven't found anyone yet who couldn't get root due to there particular model of firetv and have used kingroot. Surely kingroot will brick a firetv due to the efuse problem.
(I thought that's where the hardwired method of root came in).
I read that one cannot replace kingroot with supersu as that would also be a major faux par.
Also read that Rbox is working on a "custom recovery" but that still leaves me wondering,.... If the Efuse is triggered then that means one cannot unlock the bootloader... leaving one with a bricked firetv wouldn't it.?
Or does kingroot work in a totally different way to towelroot.
Thanks again for the replies chaps.... the more info I get the clearer it becomes.
One last thing.. I've also notices a lot of talk about firestarter no longer working under 5.0.5... and that adbfire will no longer communicate with a firetv to sideload,... and that ES file explorer is the only way to go.
But then again, maybe that's just chitchat from amazon.... cos you can bet your life they read every single post put on the net.

slackbladder said:
Thanks for the replies chaps.... but i'm sure that kodi/variants will not work on 51.1.4.0_user_514005520,...
You can sideload it but it will never work.
That is the same firmware I had on my first box I got over a year ago,...
http://www.aftvnews.com/xbmc-kodi-incompatible-with-fire-tv-software-version-51-1-40_user_514005520/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/xmbc-fc-uk-aftv-t2917248
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Routers out of the question to block updates... that's why I'm using opendns to block updates.
So it's obvious that trying to somehow install an update of my choice is out of the question.... it's either 5.0.5 or nothing. that's fair enough.
But I'm curious about kingroot.... especially as when and if I update then I have the problem of “Self destruct” eFuse added to kernel which gets triggered if an older bootloader is used".
I haven't found anyone yet who couldn't get root due to there particular model of firetv and have used kingroot. Surely kingroot will brick a firetv due to the efuse problem.
(I thought that's where the hardwired method of root came in).
I read that one cannot replace kingroot with supersu as that would also be a major faux par.
Also read that Rbox is working on a "custom recovery" but that still leaves me wondering,.... If the Efuse is triggered then that means one cannot unlock the bootloader... leaving one with a bricked firetv wouldn't it.?
Or does kingroot work in a totally different way to towelroot.
Thanks again for the replies chaps.... the more info I get the clearer it becomes.
One last thing.. I've also notices a lot of talk about firestarter no longer working under 5.0.5... and that adbfire will no longer communicate with a firetv to sideload,... and that ES file explorer is the only way to go.
But then again, maybe that's just chitchat from amazon.... cos you can bet your life they read every single post put on the net.
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Well somehow I missed that. Sorry to say but you have a lot of misunderstood info here:
- firestarter works with 5.0.5 however some other apps do not i.e. Lama
- ADB works as well
- the process of rooting with kingroot does not brick your unit, removing it by instlling supersu-me does
- Updating to 5.0.5 and rooting using kingroot method will not trigger eFuse.

Thanks for the reply bula1ca,
Only just finished reading about the update to firestarter.... But what about the EFuse? I cannot seem to find anything about the Efuse which stopped a lot of users rooting in the first place.
Does anyone know if kingroot has somehow managed to solve the Efuse problem.
Has anyone here used kingroot on what was a previously unrootable firetv box because of the Efuse problem?
thanks chaps
slackbladder..

slackbladder said:
Thanks for the reply bula1ca,
Only just finished reading about the update to firestarter.... But what about the EFuse? I cannot seem to find anything about the Efuse which stopped a lot of users rooting in the first place.
Does anyone know if kingroot has somehow managed to solve the Efuse problem.
Has anyone here used kingroot on what was a previously unrootable firetv box because of the Efuse problem?
thanks chaps
slackbladder..
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Many including myself.....and no worry recovery will be available as well, from what I know rbox will release it soon. Whatever you decide to do just do not try to remove kingroot with supersu-me.
BTW eFuse did not stop rooting, Amazon updates blocked rooting method available at the time.

So I don't need to worry about this info here: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tvs-efuse-explained-rooted-devices-not-at-risk-of-bricking/
Because it seems that its only about boxes that were able to be rooted...
And I was sure that my uk unit was not rootable...
Hence my posting of aftvnews serial decoder information:
Rootable: No
Likely Software Version: 51.1.4.0
Manufactured: By Foxconn on 10/7/2014
Hardware Revision: 03
Unit Revision: 09
Condition (New or Refurbished): New
I'm finding this very confusing....
Strangely enough, I had an upgrade from my service provider.. I stupidly forgot to turn off my working firetv box and it got updated to 51.1.6.3,.... I thought that was OS5,...
If you look on http://www.aftvnews.com/software/ and then look at the second part down it says this:
Fire OS 5.0 Developer Preview – First Version (Which I believe to be Lollypop 5.1)
but when I used firestarter and looked at my settings it says the unit is running 51.1.6.3 and that I'm still on 4.2.2 (Which I do believe is Jellybean).
I really thought that my working unit was on OS5 when it got updated but obviously I was wrong, or the website at aftvnews is wrong.... unlikely.
So if I do update the new box, and it does take the 5.0.5 update... I sideload kingroot (I don't really want to use the PC version of kingroot) and then run it..
Hope that last bit makes sense...

slackbladder said:
So I don't need to worry about this info here: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tvs-efuse-explained-rooted-devices-not-at-risk-of-bricking/
Because it seems that its only about boxes that were able to be rooted...
And I was sure that my uk unit was not rootable...
Hence my posting of aftvnews serial decoder information:
Rootable: No
Likely Software Version: 51.1.4.0
Manufactured: By Foxconn on 10/7/2014
Hardware Revision: 03
Unit Revision: 09
Condition (New or Refurbished): New
I'm finding this very confusing....
Strangely enough, I had an upgrade from my service provider.. I stupidly forgot to turn off my working firetv box and it got updated to 51.1.6.3,.... I thought that was OS5,...
If you look on http://www.aftvnews.com/software/ and then look at the second part down it says this:
Fire OS 5.0 Developer Preview – First Version (Which I believe to be Lollypop 5.1)
but when I used firestarter and looked at my settings it says the unit is running 51.1.6.3 and that I'm still on 4.2.2 (Which I do believe is Jellybean).
I really thought that my working unit was on OS5 when it got updated but obviously I was wrong, or the website at aftvnews is wrong.... unlikely.
So if I do update the new box, and it does take the 5.0.5 update... I sideload kingroot (I don't really want to use the PC version of kingroot) and then run it..
Hope that last bit makes sense...
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You are very confused.
Your box is still on OS3 @ latest s/w revision released (http://www.aftvnews.com/software/). and in this stage it is not rootable yet. You have two options: either let it upgrade to OS5 by itself and root it with kingroot or block updates and wait for rbox to release recovery and a way to upgrade to OS5 manually.

Well I removed the opendns block, waited a couple of minutes and checked for updates... nothing happened at first, tried again, still nothing,.. third time lucky, box reads that there is an update available.
First update went to 51.1.6.3 user 516012020,.... it took about 15 minutes to update, then rebooted, took a further 5 minutes.
I then checked again and this time an update to OS 5.0.5 (537174420)... after another reboot it took about another 10 minutes going through "optimizing system storage and applications"... I would think if I had kodi or anything else sideloaded that's where it might have caused a problem, (I'm guessing).
Then had an update come through for the remote.
So now I'm wondering what to do, because it feels like "toss a coin in the air, and hope I'm lucky with kingroot". Can anyone tell me what would be the worst case scenario that could happen when using kingroot.
Thanks for reading chaps..
slackbladder.
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Sorry bula1ca, I never knew you replied.
I'm just thinking about sideloading kodi now,.... I'm sure I read somewhere that with the new update sideloaded apps appear on the homescreen,... So would I still need firestarter or not.?

You don't "need" firestarter with 5.0.5 it shows side loaded apps on the home screen in the apps section.

Thanks for that Ludacrisvp...
I was about to use "Install APK" with adbfire,.... To Install isengard 15.2,.... But I remember reading somewhere that one could use the "ADB Shell" and a command to clean up (remove the apk) once it has been run. I may be getting this mixed up with installing to an ipad, as I'm trying to remember something from months ago...

Kodi Jarvis 16.0 is the latest stable version that should be what you are using.
You can push the APK to the device then install it using File Explorer, or similar but then you'll have apk files floating about to clean up later.
Best idea would be to use adb to install the APK in a single step, it will transfer the APK and install it and clean up the data too.
ADBFire is handy if you're new to using ADB.

Thanks for the advice Ludacrisvp....
hhmmm not to sure about Jarvis yet.. maybe in a month or two. At the moment my Isengard isn't broken so there's no need to fix it.
Anyway I used adbfire and installed the apk for isengard. and ran it to go threw the setup procedure.
I then replaced the box running 5.0.5 with my box running 51.1.6.3 and using adbfire again did a backup. This took about 45 minutes.
A total of 1.24gb.
I then replaced that with the 5.0.5 box and did a restore, this was a painfully long experience... another 45 minutes.
I then ran Isengard under 5.0.5 and all was well, my setup was exactly the same,... Initially I was expecting problems due to the OS upgrade but it was fine,.. only thing missing was my personal wallpaper, so I pushed it to "SDcard", came out of settings on kodi and wallpaper appeared.
Now I don't know if this is my imagination but I tested iplayer and youtube and the video replay quality seemed grainy.... even though i had iplayer on best quality. And I tried a few videos that I've watched previously on youtube so I knew they were HD quality.
I'd like to test this 5.0.5 on a new TV to see if this would make any difference.
also when I rebooted the 5.0.5 box I had a short message appear saying something about reconfiguring installed software.... I've never seen that before and a loud crackle noise as the box was booting.
I'm just wondering about updating my unit that I've been using all the time with the old firmware on it,.... If I did would it be best to reset the unit to factory settings,... I'm just thinking because of kodi and firestarter and llama being on there would they cause a problem to the upgrade.

Bought new kindle fire during Monday Cyber sale. Need advice

Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross

To be honest, I would have same question. Seems that those Kindle Fires (I have purchased two for the christmas gifts for the family in Poland) are 5th generation. Is there a way to flash them with something else as I have heard that once those would be delivered to Poland, my family won't even be able to install any apps on it as Amazon Store blocks polish IP addresses.
Anyway could provide some basic info if those tablets can be flashed with some other ROM to at least provide functionality for Gapps and polish language (dreaming...)
edit: ok... have to say that xda "search" wasn't helpful enough however when I have used google, I have found this thread which might come in handy:
5th Gen - 2015
KFFOWI | Ford
[INDEX]
Helpful Information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485

Dr M Cross said:
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
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I just did this last night from firmware 5.3.1 and it worked fine. You can find your version by going to Settings>About Tablet>Build Number I believe though now that my tablet is flashed with a new rom it does not look the same. From what I understand you cannot root 5.3.2 but can downgrade back to 5.3.1 and then root.
The easiest way to root is with RootJunky's supertool which was just upgraded a week ago and worked fine on my tablet. Download and instructions are here http://www.rootjunky.com/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool/ You can install the correct drivers, root the tablet, remove adds, and install flashify. Once you have flashify you can install whatever ROM you'd like. If I understand correctly you cannot install a custom recovery on 5.3.1
I am running the Nexus rom and it seems to be working great. Got a replacement for my stolen Nexus tablet for $33 on black friday. That's a deal!

Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.

edmun said:
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
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I was absolutely able to root my kindle from 5.3.1 yesterday. Brand new one straight from Amazon. Make sure you are using the very latest supertools which includes updated kingroot. Link is on my post above.
By the way I don't think kingroot ever said it had successfully rooted my tablet but I replaced with super su rebooted and I definitely have root.
Sent from my Pixel XL using XDA-Developers mobile app

So the instructions in the supertool are misleading... As it does say to run kingroot over and over again to root and and then replace with SU. Yep. I am using the latest version. Seriously. 2 days of constant running of Kingroot with no vain. On 5th gen with 5.3.1. Never had any issues with any devices, even HTC with S-On, Nexus, Motorola Xoom, this Kindle Fire does give me a headache....
I will try today or tomorrow again. It is already after factory reset as it is waiting to be posted back (luckily Amazon told me that I have time until 2nd of February to return the tablets)
edit: Hmm... after factory reset rooting went fine without any issues.
I can only assume that once the device is "assigned" to Amazon Account, it is somehow changed.
So ... After factory reset and starting from a scratch - I do have root on amazon fire 7" 5th generation 5.3.1.

this isn't the 5th gen forum see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire

Hi all,
Thanks for your helps. Appears a friend of mine updated the OS to 5.3.2.1..... so I'm essentially stuck until there are further developments...

Help with rooting Kindle Fire 5th Gen Version 5.7.0.0

I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help me.

Same here.

Waluigi Drip said:
I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help
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Unfortunately, there is NO WAY to root Fire OS 5.7.0.0 without opening the tablet. Reasons: 1. Bootloader is locked, 2. If you attempt to downgrade Fire OS 5.7.0.0 below 5.4.0.0, you will brick your device. The ONLY way to Root and install TWRP is opening the tablet and using something conductive, using some random switch of the same size like the pins on the tablet, something to open the tablet, and a Linux Pc (Not VM, Most likely may not work) Read this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ick-downgrade-fire-7-ford-and-austin.3899860/ this should help root or install newer android versions and root. SuperSU link (if you successfully installed twrp) https://supersuroot.org/ link to the buttons (To unlock bootloader I guess? Btw, you need micro-soldier tools or- just click the XDA TWRP link to see what to do) https://www.amazon.com/Momentary-Tactile-Button-Switch-Assortment/dp/B07LCBLB8N/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3KB51OOE7LYGP&keywords=mini+button+switches&qid=1681097908&sprefix=mini+button+switches,aps,425&sr=8-19 If you want custom roms for this search for some. I recommend lineageos, it's similar to stock and should get the job done... GApps is here if you need it https://opengapps.org/
The Amazon link is for switches.
Rom that I know: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unlocked-ford-austin-lineage-14-1-05-feb-2022.3962457/ Sorry, it can only go to 7.1, android 5 doesn't support certain apps, 6.0/6.1 is fine. If you hate amazon bloatware just use fire toolbox. Reply if you need anything else. Peace! - AmouuuSplat3

Fire Cube - Flashing Old Firmware

Hi All,
I've seen a method (here) that stops Amazon from making changes to Fire Cube devices as long as they are on a certain firmware version.
I want to know the simplest way to flash an older firmware version onto a Gen 2 or Gen 3 Fire Cube. No preference over which model, whichever is easiest.
So far I've found the firmware downloads, but understanding what's required to flash it is like trying to read Greek to me. I've seen methods that need an Arduino, some that say you don't need an Arduino if your on Firmware X or older.
I don't actually own the Fire Cube yet, so I don't know what firmware version will be on there when I receive it. Open to buying second hand or brand new, 2nd or 3rd gen, whatever is going to give me the easiest means of flashing old hardware on there.
Any advice or help is massively appreciated.
Kind Regards,

The 3rd Gen (Gazelle) Cube is only limited to temporary root which can only grant root under certain conditions. Unfortunately with the 3rd gen currently trying and modifying the system to run an older system will brick the device due to dm-verify checking for changes of the system and files.

Skel40 said:
The 3rd Gen (Gazelle) Cube is only limited to temporary root which can only grant root under certain conditions. Unfortunately with the 3rd gen currently trying and modifying the system to run an older system will brick the device due to dm-verify checking for changes of the system and files.
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Thanks for the info, that's good to know. I'll pick up a 2nd Gen in that case, assuming it is possible to flash one of the older hardwares on there?