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Hello,
I'm considering a new phone and have been looking at the Xperia S/SL. I like the feel of the devices and the design. I think having a physical camera button is great! If you have an S/SL, what do you like most about it? What do you like the least? Seems other than 2 additional colors and a bump in CPU speed, the SL is the same as the S. Is that so? Most everything I've seen in terms of customization (new ROMs, etc) talk about the S and not the SL. Can I safely assume that the S and SL are synonymous with regards to rooting, ROMs, etc.?
Thanks,
cesman
Well I must say the XS is awesome, i mena the camera is great (except some autofocus issues, however you can get another app for that) the screen is gorgeous, flaws ... must I say non removeable battery, lacking micro sd port (however 32 gb I think It's fair enough)
I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
You can flash a custom kernel to have 1.7GHz like SL, no other main difference between S and SL.
The camera is good, and the device runs smooth with some tweaks for custom looks it's the same as other devices, you can always customize Android
Non removable battery and no micro-sd slot doesn't bother me, there is a key reset combo and I don't need more then 32GB
Battery life isn't superb, but also not really bad, you can easily get one day or more. Unless you are a very heavy user or have a lot of apps that sync data
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just like my phone have lots of apps that need sync , and thats why i bought smartphone , so it can sync automatically and not to do it manually.
For the price you really can't go wrong, you get a stunning 300+ PPI 720p HD screen, a 12mp Camera and a decent dual core.
It's got a gorgeous UI but since it's an android you're probably going to be skinning it anyways. It feels weighty and it's sturdy, it doesn't feel cheap at all and you feel like you're holding a sturdy phone. Build quality is good, I've dropped it countless times and it's still yet to break for me.
You can unlock the bootloader officially which is good and it really isn't all that hard to root the device and install roms on it.
The downsides I'd say is the non-removable battery which for is a concern and a problem considering the battery isn't all the impressive, It lasts me from 8am in the morning to about 3-4am with low/moderate usage.
32gb for most people should be more than enough.
Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Interesting choice of adjectives as some would consider "amazing" better than "good". I held the Z in my hand at CES and didn't care for the feel. The ZL has a much better hand feel. If anything, that is the phone I'd wait for... As long as I can get it unlocked. I'm more attached to the Xperia line than the Galaxy... Although it is nice that Galaxy has official CM releases up to the current M1.
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I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
cesman said:
I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
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IPMART Malaysia
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
any body make a custom rom for Xperia SL (Real SL)
becuase all of custom rom are Xperia S
I guess all Roms for Xperia s will be compatible with the sl. Not sure though.
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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It'll be better to get an S!! because its tries and tested and u have a lot of ppl to hold u back!! SL is just picking up!
The S is exactly the same as the SL just the SL is overclocked from the factory. I have a SL, shoulda just bought the S and saved some money.
Is something wrong with the device
i want to know is there something wrong with the hardware or anything i really want to buy it but m confused.
No regrets! I love it. Amazing screen, awesome camera, nice design, and tons of extras on the software end. I am definitely glad I went with the Xperia ZL!
The story is, I was torn between the HTC One and the Samsung S4. I could not decide. Then I happened to be on the Sony website because I had a $250 gift card for the sony online store. I happened to stumble across the Sony Xperia Z and ZL. I liked everything about it, and the more I thought about it I realized how much more unique it would be to own one. Everyone and their brother is running around with an HTC One and S4 right now. So I went for it. The phone was marked down from $759 to $569, I received 10% off for student discount, minus $250 from the gift card, and I got the sales rep to give me free next day shipping. So all said and done I only paid around $275.00, compared to $600 for an HTC One, and $700 for an S4.
(I was looking for an unlocked phone only so that I could utilize a pre-paid service that runs on AT&T for only $45.00 a month. Save big time in the long run)
So any tips and tricks for the Xperia ZL I should know about? I have model number C6506.
Only con I have about the device, is the battery life. It doesn't seem the best, but I also understand that it has a 5" screen, so what does one expect?
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No regrets! I love it. Amazing screen, awesome camera, nice design, and tons of extras on the software end. I am definitely glad I went with the Xperia ZL!
The story is, I was torn between the HTC One and the Samsung S4. I could not decide. Then I happened to be on the Sony website because I had a $250 gift card for the sony online store. I happened to stumble across the Sony Xperia Z and ZL. I liked everything about it, and the more I thought about it I realized how much more unique it would be to own one. Everyone and their brother is running around with an HTC One and S4 right now. So I went for it. The phone was marked down from $759 to $569, I received 10% off for student discount, minus $250 from the gift card, and I got the sales rep to give me free next day shipping. So all said and done I only paid around $275.00, compared to $600 for an HTC One, and $700 for an S4.
(I was looking for an unlocked phone only so that I could utilize a pre-paid service that runs on AT&T for only $45.00 a month. Save big time in the long run)
So any tips and tricks for the Xperia ZL I should know about? I have model number C6506.
Only con I have about the device, is the battery life. It doesn't seem the best, but I also understand that it has a 5" screen, so what does one expect?
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Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
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Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
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Thanks for the response. I went with black. Not sure about the update quite yet. Everything works great, and I don't like to fix things that aren't broken. Will look into it. What does OTA mean?
OTA means: Over The Air via w_lan...
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After you update the phone to 4.2.2, I recommend a factory reset. For some reason, it helps.
Im sorry to ask another question but is better than creating another thread I'm going to the US in a month or so and I wanna know something about the price of the phone, everywhere I read the ZL is ~570$ and up. On Amazon the XZL is 514$+tax (I think its 7% on NJ right?) So if I buy the phone from amazon its about 560$ right? Is there another website that I can check to buy the phone? Thanks!
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Im sorry to ask another question but is better than creating another thread I'm going to the US in a month or so and I wanna know something about the price of the phone, everywhere I read the ZL is ~570$ and up. On Amazon the XZL is 514$+tax (I think its 7% on NJ right?) So if I buy the phone from amazon its about 560$ right? Is there another website that I can check to buy the phone? Thanks!
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New egg currently has the C6506 on sale for $529 for July 4 only.
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Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
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I didn't know sony comes with a real screen protector, good to know. I installed a new one over the Sony one.
Hope you enjoy it man.
I have mine just 2 days back,and completely amazed after galaxy1,2,3.
Back to sony after p1i few years back! :good:
Torn between this baby and the Z
I'm getting a bit of cash soon and decided it's time for an upgrade (My Ion keeps getting grabbed by my kids so i'm left without a phone, besides it will make for a grat media center with my dock), I'm torn between the Z and ZL. so far i've made a list of pro's and cons:
ZL:
pros
-cheaper! (I can get it for less than $500 dollars on amazon, even seen some great deals on it)
-size(it's a bit bigger than the ion but not by much compared to the Z)
-proper camera button( Never understood why android makers never put camera buttons on their phones, its what i missed the most from my N8)
Screen/Bezel ratio(Big screen, small bezel. need i say more?)
cons
-No waterproofing(not a deal breaker but would be nice to have)
-"Limited" dev support(i like to flash custom roms. If i cant find em guess it would be time to learn how to port.
Z
Pros
-Flagship(gets all the attention)
-waterproof
-eye catching design(not that the ZL is ugly, but the glass gives the Z a premium look)
Cons
no camera button
Expensive
Glass tends to pop up and separate from the phone(apparently a design flaw, it's being discussed on the Z forums)
flaps get worn over time and loose waterproofing.
So, ZL users, should i go for it? I dont mind that it has s4pro chipset(same architecture as S600 but underclocked a bit so it's no slouch). WOuld like to hear your thoughts.
I have both currently, and will be returning the Z.
Unless you plan to go underweater with the Z and take pictures, then really that feature is not so great. And having to open/close the flaps constantly is annoying.
You will not regret the ZL, AND when you do buy it, DO NOT LET THE SOFTWARE UPDATE. 4.2 sucks.
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I'm getting a bit of cash soon and decided it's time for an upgrade (My Ion keeps getting grabbed by my kids so i'm left without a phone, besides it will make for a grat media center with my dock), I'm torn between the Z and ZL. so far i've made a list of pro's and cons:
ZL:
pros
-cheaper! (I can get it for less than $500 dollars on amazon, even seen some great deals on it)
-size(it's a bit bigger than the ion but not by much compared to the Z)
-proper camera button( Never understood why android makers never put camera buttons on their phones, its what i missed the most from my N8)
Screen/Bezel ratio(Big screen, small bezel. need i say more?)
cons
-No waterproofing(not a deal breaker but would be nice to have)
-"Limited" dev support(i like to flash custom roms. If i cant find em guess it would be time to learn how to port.
Z
Pros
-Flagship(gets all the attention)
-waterproof
-eye catching design(not that the ZL is ugly, but the glass gives the Z a premium look)
Cons
no camera button
Expensive
Glass tends to pop up and separate from the phone(apparently a design flaw, it's being discussed on the Z forums)
flaps get worn over time and loose waterproofing.
So, ZL users, should i go for it? I dont mind that it has s4pro chipset(same architecture as S600 but underclocked a bit so it's no slouch). WOuld like to hear your thoughts.
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I am been happy with the ZL, I can upload files from the web browser and i never was able to do it in the Apple iPhone 4s, i sold it and bought this phone. The only thing I would like Sony to modify in future Xperia products is to switch the speakers and put it on the side or front. It is annoying to have a call and use the speaker when this is in the back, you have to basically turn the phone the other way to hear clearly. If you want to multitask while talking it is painful.
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I have the chance to trade my nexus 4 for a zl.... Should I go for it?
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How would we know what your needs are?
Jeez
sharky2013 said:
I have the chance to trade my nexus 4 for a zl.... Should I go for it?
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Honestly, I have never been happier than with this phone. My Nexi was great while it lasted, never liked the back being glass. The ZL has everything the 4 had, but just better. Do yourself a favor, and even though the Sony skin is not too cumbersome, just do a custom ROM. You'll enjoy it much more. Sony has made the process of unlocking and flashing almost as painless as possible. I absolutely LOVE the skinny bezel around it. I am happier with this device than I had been with any other.
wonderful, I also wnna one, but it's expensive in my country.
Hi, I have the HTC One Developers Edition on AT&T in the US. I love it but camera is bad.
Question: can the bootloader be unlocked on the ZL?
Does it work on AT&T LTE radios in US? Anyone have any other advise on comparing the ZL to the One?
I sincerely appreciate the help.
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maddie01 said:
Hi, I have the HTC One Developers Edition on AT&T in the US. I love it but camera is bad.
Question: can the bootloader be unlocked on the ZL?
Does it work on AT&T LTE radios in US? Anyone have any other advise on comparing the ZL to the One?
I sincerely appreciate the help.
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Yes, but you need to buy a version of the ZL that has an unlockable bootloader. The SIM unlocked version that Sony, Amazon and most retailers sell can have the bootloader unlocked. For AT&T you need the C6506 (this is the model made for the US and has both AT&T and T-Mobile HSPA and LTE frequencies). The C6503 will only give you HSPA on AT&T so I would avoid it.
I don't like that the One has permanent buttons. The new Google model (from the Nexus 4) is to have the buttons on screen so they can disappear when you don't need them, like with full screen video. Other than that, the ZL has some decent support for AOSP ROMs. Cyanogenmod 10.2 (Jellybean 4.3) is available for the ZL and it runs pretty well. It's still a work in progress but luckily the Xperia Z and the ZL share similar internals so as long as there is CM for the Z, the ZL will have it.
The stock Timescape Sony ROM is decent, and 4.3 will surely come soon, but I feel the Sony ROM is slow. There is pure AOSP available for the ZL but it doesn't include radio support along with other proprietary drivers, so it won't work as a daily ROM, but CM is very close to AOSP.
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Yes, but you need to buy a version of the ZL that has an unlockable bootloader. The SIM unlocked version that Sony, Amazon and most retailers sell can have the bootloader unlocked. For AT&T you need the C6506 (this is the model made for the US and has both AT&T and T-Mobile HSPA and LTE frequencies). The C6503 will only give you HSPA on AT&T so I would avoid it.
I don't like that the One has permanent buttons. The new Google model (from the Nexus 4) is to have the buttons on screen so they can disappear when you don't need them, like with full screen video. Other than that, the ZL has some decent support for AOSP ROMs. Cyanogenmod 10.2 (Jellybean 4.3) is available for the ZL and it runs pretty well. It's still a work in progress but luckily the Xperia Z and the ZL share similar internals so as long as there is CM for the Z, the ZL will have it.
The stock Timescape Sony ROM is decent, and 4.3 will surely come soon, but I feel the Sony ROM is slow. There is pure AOSP available for the ZL but it doesn't include radio support along with other proprietary drivers, so it won't work as a daily ROM, but CM is very close to AOSP.
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Thank You very much for the detailed reply! Very cool. I will look for the C6506. Take care and I truly appreciate the time you took to help me out.
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Okay so I'm in a situation where I soon need to get rid of my old sh**ty Xperia Active.
My first smart phone was a Xperia X10i (Which I contributed almost all stock firmwares for, here on XDA), followed by a Nokia 800 (WP7), then a Huawei Ascend P1 which I unfortunately lost and had to go back to a backup phone which is the Xperia Active.
Now I've been looking around for a replacement and the Z1C is really attractive with the awesome design language Sony has set for their Xperia line. But I wanted to get the opinions from flashers and devs here on XDA, mainly because I usually don't stick with stock firmware for long.
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
I know there is loads of custom firmwares for the Nexus line of devices, and the Oppo and OnePlus devices has CyanogenMod support.
So my only "Uncertainty" is the Xperia devices.
Now I know FXP is covering a lot of Xperias but I want to know if there is other major ROM supports for the Z1C and M2 and if the release cycle is on time with CM or not too far after that.
And how stable the builds are in general with the latest official builds of Android (4.4.3 and 4.4.4).
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
Is it easy to root?
What recoveries is available?
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I appreciate all the input you can give me and hopefully I'll get a little bit back into the Xperia hacking.
arkedk said:
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost from 270 to 400 euro here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship coming in at around 670 euro, and I wont spent that on a phone since I'm buying without contract as I'm perfectly happy with my carrier and don't want to be locked down for 6 months at a new carrier.
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost roughly the same here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
Trying to be helpful here (my comments in italics):
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
I used to be LG O2X owner, and compared to my old phone Z1C even running with stock rom is fast, stable and smooth.
Is it easy to root?
Very easy. All you need to do is download a file and follow the OP here. And I can confirm that it works with the latest kitkat/4.4.4.
What recoveries is available?
TWRP, PhilZ and CWM are available. You can get them here..
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
Some users report flashbleed problem with the camera (fortunately I don't have that problem).
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
I'd say quite good, judging from the number of custom ROM and kernel available for Z1C in the XDA.
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
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Sony recently uploaded all their copyleft kernels to GitHub, below link is for current Z1C tree.
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel-copyleft/tree/14.3.A.0.xxx
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Hmm that's quite a big point in why I want the Z1C. The great pictures that can be taken on stock doesn't work properly on cm. Are they porting stock camera drivers and app into future FXP releases or count on getting the issues fixed?
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Photos seem to have more noise as far as I could tell when I tested a FXP build. And currently it's not possible to have 4k and 120FPS recording on a CM based rom or at least nobody successfully tested it.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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About the same quality wise in my opinion, but camera starts really slow, and you lose a lot of features and post-processing that Sonys camera app does.
People mentioned that the BIONZ image processor only works with stock roms, don't know if that's true.
Hello guys, I wanna buy a new smartphone, have a S3 and now I'm tempted to buy the LG G3 with 32GB internal and 3GB RAM. Is a good option for nowadays?
Yes, it's still a good option. However, I would invest in the V10, because it's superior in every way, and will last you longer. The G3's development is dying in terms of stock based ROMs, which in my opinion are the best kind of ROMs.
It is a good choice, but if you're in America, go for the V10. Much better investment.
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Yes, it's still a good option. However, I would invest in the V10, because it's superior in every way, and will last you longer. The G3's development is dying in terms of stock based ROMs, which in my opinion are the best kind of ROMs.
It is a good choice, but if you're in America, go for the V10. Much better investment.
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I'm in Europe, portuguese. And why you say that. Isn't CM13 a good option?
Ariano Ângelo said:
I'm in Europe, portuguese. And why you say that. Isn't CM13 a good option?
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It is, but the camera is of a lower quality in AOSP or CM based ROMs.
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Mevolent said:
It is, but the camera is of a lower quality in AOSP or CM based ROMs.
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Ohh okay thank you. It's normal then. But the focus is the same speed?
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Ohh okay thank you. It's normal then. But the focus is the same speed?
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No - ASOP won't have the drivers for the Laser-Autofocus and I guess OIS is out of reach as well - so no. CM/ASOP isn't going to be anywhere near as fast especially not that CM has no Camera 2 API implemented. The only choice would be a good Camera App to get somewhat good pictures as well, but they're still not going near Stock as it would have to rely on Software totally.
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I'd love to get the V10 but I neither do have the money noir do they sell it in Germany. Seems like LG hates Germany nowadays ... (curses)
justyourimage said:
No - ASOP won't have the drivers for the Laser-Autofocus and I guess OIS is out of reach as well - so no. CM/ASOP isn't going to be anywhere near as fast especially not that CM has no Camera 2 API implemented. The only choice would be a good Camera App to get somewhat good pictures as well, but they're still not going near Stock as it would have to rely on Software totally.
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I'd love to get the V10 but I neither do have the money noir do they sell it in Germany. Seems like LG hates Germany nowadays ... (curses)
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I think in Portugal we don't have it too. And camera is not the most important thing to me so...
EHK! Just found out it 's going to be sold end of december here in Germany as well on Amazon !!!!
http://www.mobilegeeks.de/artikel/lg-v10/
Should probably release at the same time or close in the rest of Europe!
That taken aside:
The G3 is a phone made for people that are willing to do things like opening the phone and applying a Cooling Mod and take a lot of time into customization and tweaking of Stock roms in my opinion - and you loose to much out if you go the ASOP/CM route with it (in my opinion). It 's good - but it 's not perfect and certainly has it 's drawbacks. If you want to go the CM/ASOP route I'd rather suggest an OPO since that one has more reliable and stable kernels of high quality around like Boeffla or AK-Kernel around (eh he) and has it 's Camera ported for CM as well.
TLDR: In terms of value for the money you invest right now and CM-Support ->
1. OPO/OPO2
2. LG G3
3. LG G4
4. LG V10
That said excluding other good phones like the Nexus devices (can't list them all and don't have experience with them either)
Or perhaps go for an Xperia. Sony has a very friendly attitude towards devs, so you'll find busy development on an Xperia.
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Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
Gamer4Life said:
Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
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Ok thanks for the advice bro!
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Got my G3 at the end of May this year and still is my phone. And I can totally recommend it. Can keep up with the best of them. Camera is good too. I'm sure development will boom once we get stock Marshmallow. Here in the Philippines, there's only about a $50 difference between 32GB G3 and the leather 32GB G4. Hope I helped!
Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
(Sorry if my english is bad)
I bought my 2nd hand LG G3 D855 , 5 weeks ago.
It is okay for the price (Without warranty).
Don't ever buy G3.
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ceza1380 said:
Don't ever buy G3.
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Why mate?
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nelson1130 said:
Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
(Sorry if my english is bad)
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Why you say that bro?
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I bought my lg g3 and is very pleased with it and if you apply thermal paste on it it will stop lag when you scroll an such. For me atleast!
Gamer4Life said:
Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
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Perhaps your friends model was dodgy? Because mine performed amazingly, better than any Z1 or Z3 for that matter. Also, the G3's camera is far superior to the Z3 and below, because unlike those models, the G3's camera is sharp. You'll notice a fair amount of image noise in a Z3 camera. Can't say anything about the more recent ones, however.
And battery is subjective to a LOT of things. You won't always get 7h SOT or whatever. I did once get 6 odd hours of SOT with ~25% left. But again, it's subjective.
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Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
(Sorry if my english is bad)
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Only go AOSP if you don't mind losing out on camera quality. Otherwise, stay with stock. And honestly, the camera is the G3's main selling point, if you don't mind so much about camera, go with a HTC or a Z3 or Z2. Not a Z1. Differences between the Z2 and 3 are negligible.
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Mevolent said:
Perhaps your friends model was dodgy? Because mine performed amazingly, better than any Z1 or Z3 for that matter. Also, the G3's camera is far superior to the Z3 and below, because unlike those models, the G3's camera is sharp. You'll notice a fair amount of image noise in a Z3 camera. Can't say anything about the more recent ones, however.
And battery is subjective to a LOT of things. You won't always get 7h SOT or whatever. I did once get 6 odd hours of SOT with ~25% left. But again, it's subjective.
Only go AOSP if you don't mind losing out on camera quality. Otherwise, stay with stock. And honestly, the camera is the G3's main selling point, if you don't mind so much about camera, go with a HTC or a Z3 or Z2. Not a Z1. Differences between the Z2 and 3 are negligible.
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Being honest, with the prize he have on the store i'll buy it, it's specs are great for his price. 329 euros 32GB and 3GB ram
Edit: 309 euros for the 16Gb with 2GB ram
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Dear Oneplus 3 users,
Is it a worth switch from Xperia Z5 to OnePlus 3? Some of my friends said it's not worth the switch.. but i was still curious because some reviewers said it's a really really good phone.. i need advices from you guys OnePlus 3 users.. it would really help me for thinking about the switch.. thanks guys (sorry for bad english)
Believe me ....
Dash charge enough to switch
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In my opinion, Comparing to Z5, One Plus 3 is far better. but if you have budget i prefer you S7 Edge, It's the best phone with alot of features, Or you can buy an Iphone 6s
so i should make the switch then? is it annoying when you guys dont have sd card support?
calvinerico said:
so i should make the switch then? is it annoying when you guys dont have sd card support?
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64 Gb is more than enough to install loads of apps and shoot pictures and video's. I still have 34 Gb free.
I have used the OPO (OnePlus One) before my Oneplus 3 and I never had major problems regarding not having an sd-card slot.
I have never used the Xperia Z5 myself, but i can say that the OnePlus 3 with the Snapdragon 820 is a beast. It runs fantastically smooth and the dash charge is really fast.
The only thing i wished the Oneplus 3 had, is a higher resolution display. It is not a bad display -far from it-, but using VR with this phone is not pretty.
hi i switch from z2 to op3 and my brother have z5 but i like op3 and i think i better than Z5 in fingerprint..screen...front camera..storage..and of course developer support and the big thing is dash charge
calvinerico said:
so i should make the switch then?
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Only one man can answer that and he is yourself
calvinerico said:
is it annoying when you guys dont have sd card support?
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64 GB is enough to for me but i can't tell about your needs. Anyway OTG option is always available :victory:
i switched from the Z5 to the op3 and have not looked back, better battery, software and audio
calvinerico said:
Dear Oneplus 3 users,
Is it a worth switch from Xperia Z5 to OnePlus 3? Some of my friends said it's not worth the switch.. but i was still curious because some reviewers said it's a really really good phone.. i need advices from you guys OnePlus 3 users.. it would really help me for thinking about the switch.. thanks guys (sorry for bad english)
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I switched from Z3 and I love my OP3
+Easy to root, unlock Bootloader, etc..
+Wide community, on Xperia it was mainly SLiM for me, here you got the choice, I am on Revolution Remix, very nice!
+No SDCARD >> I dont feel any pain here, actually with my Z3 I had a sdcard and almost never put it off.. Do you? got enough room so far with the 64Gb
+Dash Charge is Wow, and anyway batterry not bad. I use Greenify and be around 50% at end of day
-The only struggle I met sometimes, but I am not sure it is confirmed or my paranoia, it' s the wifi connection, it seems a bit behaving slow or weird sometimes, but I still hope someone comes with a solution about that.
Cheers