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fast charging pickyness

I've had a nexus 5x before and own a pixel table. Both come with USB C port to charge. So i bought a itian qc3.0 charger at that time. (http://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_389793.html)
Now i changed to the lg g6, but it refused to do the 'fast charging ' when i use that chargers qc3.0 port and even says 'slow charging' when connecting to the usb c output.
Is it the combination that's just flakey or did they put something specific in the original charger that comes with the lg g6?
I'm bit lost on the topic of chargers currently, anyone care to enlighten me on what should could would work?

Lg g6 is picky I think
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I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.

Obscure Reference said:
I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.
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wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:

Apb said:
wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:
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Works fine with my wife's charger from her Galaxy Note 4 as well. ? (Pretty sure that's a QC 2.0 charger as well.)

Does LG not provide a qc 3.0 charger with their own phone ??

Mine came with a MCS-H06UR charger.
Rated @ 9.0V 1.8A / 5.0V 1.8A
After a quick Google search I've had no luck ascertaining if this is QC 2.0 or QC 3.0.

From what I can tell, my phone charges as fast if not faster using the 5V/3A charger that came with my 6P.
From what I've read online, the LG G6 also supports USB-PD.
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Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that

lg3FTW said:
Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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Shouldn't really get hot once it's fully charged?

The charger that comes with it is a quick charge 3.0 charger and can completely charge your phone from zero in less than 2 hours easily. You have to use the cord that came with it though, or at least one that is compatible. If you look at the icons, you will see a different one than the usual charging icon. Pulling down the menu shows something about fast-charging when its active.
My experience comes from the Sprint version.

lg3FTW said:
Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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i use one from Tylt each night since im always on-call. havent had a problem once.

None of my QC 3.0 charger fast chagrge my G6. The QC 2.0 chargers do.

I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W

I do not believe the LG stock charger is qc qc 3.0 compatible because its fixed mat output at 9v is 1.8a
qc 3.0 defines the max amps at each voltage level from 5v to 9v to 12v
I ended up buying anker qc 3.0 chargers for my car and for ac wall outlet. also bought their nice braided usb c cable. every combination yields a fast charger notification in the drop down and the ampere app confirms this. also watching the real time output is impressive from all these chargers.
the benefit to using a certified qc 3.0 charger is that the phone will tell it exactly what amps to deliver based on charge & temp.
further, the G6 has a heat pipe to help cool the entire phone including the battery, to help prevent a galaxy note scenario.
wireless charging is slow Qi spec and is NOT fast like samsung. however, slow charging over wireless is great for overnight.
I use anker's qi charging puck and it works great except I have to remove my case. same with the samsung fast charger puck. my wife doesn't have to remove the case on her S7 to do regular or fast charging. LG's design is obviously inferior for the Qi to pickup and activate the coil.

Today Amazon delivered also this Anker dual usb car charger (QuickCharge 3.0):
http://amzn.com/B01K9MQ8WW
and when LG G6 is connected it shows that is in fast charging mode.

Those who bought QC 3.0 charger and those who trying different cables with LG G6 charger, Try Cable from Oneplus 3, I get an improved charging of 10-20 minutes less compared to stock LG cable

The issue might be the cable you're using. I've had no trouble fast charging using an old ASUS QC 2.0 charger, or a cheap car QC 3.0 charger. Even when using microUSB cables with USB-C adapter tips, but I'm using decent cables (mostly Monoprice and Anker).

I've confirmed that the charger that came with my G6 is QC3.0 (model MCS-H06UR, UK 3-pin). Using a USB power meter, the voltage will increase from 5V to 9V in small steps. If I use a QC 2.0 charger (stock charger from Note4/S7edge), it will jump from 5V to 9V immediately.

tulving said:
I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W
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How much time does it take to charge fully? Did you record time ?

Replacement wall charger with TurboPower

https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus notes Charging - Micro-USB - 15W TurboPower charge
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-g5-plus/ offers the Ventev Wallport rq2300 Wall Charger for $30 (no proof of TurboPower)
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbo-power-15-wall-charger is $35
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SPN5864B-TurboPower-Original-Charging/dp/B01H1C9T6K - Motorola SPN5864B TurboPower 15 Wall Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable
- $17.71 ---not 100% certain this will work with TurboPower
Has any purchased a wall charger that works with TurboPower?

Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668

Karlinski said:
Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668
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Thanks for the Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 information. :good:
Do you have the Anker 18W USB Wall Charger https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UTA/ in hand? I am trying to get hands-on validation vs theory.
I rather not spend $25 https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx3AP6362WYWF2K/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B071HYYB4P "Another 15W QC3.0 certified charger could supply TurboPower to the Moto G5 Plus We don't want to definitively state there is not an equivalent charger to this one for the G5 Plus, but there should not be a superior alternative as this charger was specifically developed for the G5 Plus."

mattybaby said:
Thanks for the Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 information. :good:
Do you have the Anker 18W USB Wall Charger
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I use that same anker charger and it works the same as the original turbopower.
Also, any good micro-usb cable will work also. Some old cables may or may not work.

Karlinski said:
Turbopower is Qualcomm's QC 3.0...
Any adapter that supports it will work fine...
Anker is my go to brand for everything charging..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LO4UT...ds=iPhone+6+Charger&qid=1497436329&kwr_id=668
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actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work

ckret said:
actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work
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That is correct. My mistake.
The point I was trying to make is that turbopower is not something specific to Motorola, just an industry standard in disguise.

ckret said:
actually for the g5 and g5 plus it is only QC 2.0 but QC is backwards compatible and 3.0 will also work
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Does anyone have a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger in hand to confirm it charges with TurboPower? If yes, what is the model #?
I rather spend less money on a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger than a 3.0 since the use case is to charge at the office. Ex. $10 for the SPN5864B

mattybaby said:
Does anyone have a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger in hand to confirm it charges with TurboPower? If yes, what is the model #?
I rather spend less money on a Quick Charge 2.0 wall charger than a 3.0 since the use case is to charge at the office. Ex. $10 for the SPN5864B
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as i once wrote here https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554
this charger http://www.gearbest.com/iphone-cables-adapters/pp_322054.html does turbocharge the g5 plus without issues

I have multiple QC2 and 3 chargers around the house, and they all work fine
they always will because TurboCharge is just rebranded QuickCharge

SPN5864A = success!
I purchased a SPN5864A Wall Charger with a SKN6461A usb cable for $7.49 USD on ebay - LINK
"Motorola DROID Turbo 1.6 Amp Rapid Home Wall Charger SPN5864A - Super Fast Rapid Charging Charger - 15W of power - 1.6 Amp charger. Will charge Motorola devices with Adaptive TURBO Charging technology built in at an even faster rate! "
While the lock screen did not show the words fastcharge or turbocharge; AccuBattery did show the night and day difference. Screen caps of the old 463 millamps (mA) vs new SPN5864A charger 1989 mA pasted below.

Guess I'll go with the SPN5864B

Any Samsung charger for one of their last 3 or 4 flagships should work just fine. I literally have a bag of Samsung chargers from the S5 and S7 that all have the same ratings and work to Turbo charge the G5 Plus just fine. I use the Samsung charger at home and leave the Turbo Charger at the office.

I have a Asus Zenfone 2 18w charger (9v 2a, 5v 2a) and turbopower works perfectly when charging the G5 plus with it (got around 2400mah readings on Ampere app). Just in case anyone has one laying around, it's an option.

We use these around the house and for travel and they all work as you would expect.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A42R46G
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A4ZGLZ8
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charge-Charger-Samsung-Galaxy-Including-x/dp/B01E74QA30
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/bhr/Charge-Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Technology-Galaxy-iPhone/B017VXARME

I have a Tronsmart 5 port desk charger and a one port mini car charger, both with QC 2.0, both charge stupidly fast, both are awesome (just now, like half an hour ago, I plugged in my phone. at 14%, been watching YouTube all the time at full brightness, 60% charge).
I can add links to the chargers if someone wants, I'm just too lazy to do it right now.

The Samsung adaptive fast charging brick works for me

Huawei FCP Adapter - Huawei own variation of QC 2.0 also Turbo Charge G5 Plus.
Just ordered Xiaomi 10000 Power Bank 2 link --> https://www.gearbest.com/power-banks/pp_492337.html?vip=4087096 <-- and Turbo Charge works fine as well.

I bought a genuine SPN5864A on eBay for 7$. It has performed as intended since I received it.

Need a charger...

I want to buy a new charger so i want to know that 25w charger supported in our mobile? Its 25w 2.85A is it okay to do fast charge??
Or give me other suggestion or give me link where can i buy
Thank you

I can't tell, by your profile, in which country you reside, but in the US, there are many available.
If you have any fast chargers, left from other phones, with the USB-A connector, give them a try.
Besides the TURBO CHARGING toast message, I use the Ampere app to check the charging level.
This phone is not as picky, as the Nexus 6P, when it comes to fast charging. The 6P had to have a USB-C to USB-C cable and charger, in order to achieve rapid charging.
The Z2 Play is much more forgiving, in that it uses USB-A to USB-C cables, so more chargers are available.
The OEM wall charger charges at 2020mA.
The Tronsmart Qualcomm 2.0 charger,
model TS WC-IQ, with an output of 2 amps, purchased from Amazon, charges at 1440mA.
The IXCC model DCB-2U, with an output of 2.4 amps, purchased from Amazon, charges at 1420mA.
The Amker Power Port 4, model AZ142, with an output of 2.4 amps max, purchased from Amazon, charges at 1380mA.
The Okray charger, model WX-41,with an output of 2 amps, purchased from Amazon, charges at 1290mA.
I use the lower level chargers over night and the higher level chargers, during the day.
Done nights, I don't put the Z2 Play on a charger, at all, because I have just returned home from a drive, where the phone was charging in a nav dock. The phone is at 99 or 100% when I go to bed at 2200 and only down to 96% when I wake up at 0500.

M from india...so which is better company original chargee takes to much time to charge...so can i use 15w 3A or 25w 2.85A?which is better?

Moto z play charger works in z2 play???

ZeroVirus said:
Moto z play charger works in z2 play???
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Have you tried it?
If not, why not?

all my usb-c pd chargers report slower charge speeds than the stock 25w brick.

Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.

cdig said:
Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load

M2Iceman said:
Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.

cdig said:
I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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Yes you are correct. A special USB-C cable with an embedded chipset (E) is required along with special PPS. At this early stage I'm not certain many (if any) third party vendors meet these requirements. The only safe bet is the Samsung- branded one.

CONFIRMED !
i have a aftermarket 45w home charger and aftermarket 45w power bank.
both WONT charge at 45W, it charging like 15W.
when i plug in the stock 25w charger, it charging faster.

I have an Anker duel charger that has 45W USB C and a USB A. The USB C is rated at 45W and the USB A is rated at 15W. The 25W charges faster than the 45W. (at least what I am seeing)
Good info about the special cable. If we need a special cable... Where do we find it?
I do have to say, it charges fast with the 25W one.
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Ill check mines when the phone comes later today.
But i do remember reading that it used a different voltage/amp set.
Which if the charger doesnt support it. Then it would default to the lower one.
I.e.
If your charger is 5v 9v 12v 15v
But the phone needw 10v
It would default to the 9v.
Cant remember where i read this. But was a prerelease testing

The safe way to go is to use the samsung official chargers, that are precisely tuned for this, I would not risk a brand new somewhat expensive device

What is this telling me? phone says fast charging.
Using an Amazon Basics 60watt PD charger.

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yeah the phone claims it is rated for 10V at 4.5A and most 45W chargers use 15V at 3A, so likely to be nothing on the market fully capable of charging at super speed at the moment.
as for the USB cable it is a subset of USB 3.1 Gen 2, basically you need a cable with a chip in it, that chip allows you to break the 3A limit on standard cables. I've ordered this as I wanted a longer cable for my standard charger and should work with the 45W if I get it down the road. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073RY5JZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Now try this with the 25w charger in the box and you should notice shorter charge time remaining in the notification.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZGZUYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2PCVGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the cables i listed are what I use now. I have a 1TB 12.9 ipad pro and picked up these cables to use with its fast pd charging.
this charger:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TC53ZYD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is not PPS but it does have 9 Volt at 3amps. i tested it with one of my note 10s and the ipad from 10%. im using a 60W anker brick for the ipad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQJWDRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the newer ravpower brick charged up much faster. again not pps (pdo) but it is fast in my less than scientific testing.

I'm just gonna use my $200 Samsung pre order credit to buy several oem or 45 watt chargers.
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !

Brotuck said:
Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.

bp328i said:
How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express

Brotuck said:
I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
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You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.

bp328i said:
You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
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No it really is the correct one..

Brotuck said:
No it really is the correct one..
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Different region that might be why.

charger that comes with the device

Hi there!
I just got my G7 Plus minutes ago, yiipppieeh.
On the charger that came with it I read "TurboPower", is this charger Quick Charge able and compatible?
I wonder if I can use this charger with a micro usb adapter with my older BBarry device.
Usually I think they deliver cheaper chargers with their phones that are not Quick Charge capable.
Thanks!

papperlapapp said:
Hi there!
I just got my G7 Plus minutes ago, yiipppieeh.
On the charger that came with it I read "TurboPower", is this charger Quick Charge able and compatible?
I wonder if I can use this charger with a micro usb adapter with my older BBarry device.
Usually I think they deliver cheaper chargers with their phones that are not Quick Charge capable.
Thanks!
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A charger can't send more juice to a device than the device can pull.
If your BB will only pull 2A (and I'm just using this number for an example, I don't know what your BB is rated at) then hooking it to the G7+ charger won't make it charge at 27A - it'll still be 2A.
That said, there's a benefit if your current BB charger is old and not putting out the amperage it used to then the G7+ charger would help.
You'll also need to factor in your micro USB adapter too - cheap ones might limit the amperage because of inefficiency, etc.
For RL experience, my family uses my TurboPower charger for their non-TurboPower phones and they charge normally.
Oh - for your G7+, it'll charge quick until 78% and then charge "normally".