my phone: m8, T Mo, carrier unlocked with ATT sim, s-off, super CID
does this mean I can use either the general m8 android dev, etc section as well as the ATT android dev, etc section?
I assume the carrier labeled sections have mostly to do with APN settings, and possibly specific radio bands.
what is diff between ATT and unlabeled m8 subforums?
Thanks!
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runLoganrun said:
does this mean I can use either the general m8 android dev, etc section as well as the ATT android dev, etc section?
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Basically, yes. You can flash any ROMs from the generic ("international") M8 forum section; as well as the AT&T section. For the most part, the ROMs in the AT&T section are also in the international forum; with the exception of the ROMs by Wonders_Never_Cease. He includes some AT&T specific features, like Visual Voicemail, and bases his ROMs (for most part) on AT&T base.
That last part (AT&T base) may also be important for you, as there is a quirk with AT&T's deployment of Voice over LTE ("HD Voice") that doesn't play well with non-AT&T based ROMs. Although one workaround (which will allow you to use "international" based ROMs) is to call AT&T, and have HD Voice turned off for your account: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61746473&postcount=9
runLoganrun said:
I assume the carrier labeled sections have mostly to do with APN settings, and possibly specific radio bands.
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Its a bit more complicated than that. One specific example, you definitely want to steer clear of the "CDMA" (Sprint and Verizon) development sections. The CDMA version has different partitioning, and the ROMs are not compatible with your M8. And flashing a Sprint/VZN firmware or radio on your device can even result in a radio brick!
But for the most part, the other versions are the same (T-Mob, AT&T, international) with the differentiator being radio baseband, as you somewhat figured out. As mentioned above, you are probably best served to stick to AT&T and international Dev sections.
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Im looking to flash a custom rom to a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 for the sole intention of getting rid of my work phone (AT&T Blackberry). What is the best ROM (and easiest to switch between radios) to do something like this?
Thanks for any tips!
beestea said:
Im looking to flash a custom rom to a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 for the sole intention of getting rid of my work phone (AT&T Blackberry). What is the best ROM (and easiest to switch between radios) to do something like this?
Thanks for any tips!
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So far as I know you cannot flash a GSM ROM to a CDMA phone. It will not work.
stevedebi said:
So far as I know you cannot flash a GSM ROM to a CDMA phone. It will not work.
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The CDMA touch pro 2 is also a "world phone" so it has a built in GSM radio. The key is unlocking it for domestic GSM carriers. There are some unlockers to do this, but I am assuming there are various different radios and ROMs you can use that may make this work better or be easier to use.
beestea said:
The CDMA touch pro 2 is also a "world phone" so it has a built in GSM radio. The key is unlocking it for domestic GSM carriers. There are some unlockers to do this, but I am assuming there are various different radios and ROMs you can use that may make this work better or be easier to use.
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I am aware of the "world phone" capabilities, and I stand by my statement. You will brick your CDMA phone if you flash a GSM ROM. You need to flash a CDMA ROM.
I believe that it is possible to "un-brick" back to CDMA, although so far as I know no one has "un-bricked" a GSM phone that was accidentally flashed with CDMA.
for better results... aka answers.
i suggest asking this question here --> linky.
because primarily your phone is CDMA,
therefore a CDMA ROM would be needed/required.
i also suggest a read of this --> linky.
it is very informative.
and should help a lot with answering your questions.
hope that helps.
sh4d0w86.
As a CDMA/GSM phone we have the capability to use a GSM sim card, but we can only use tools that were specifically built for CDMA, including ROMs/radios. Flashing a GSM rom/radio will seriously hurt your phone, possibly rendering it unusable.
To unlock for a GSM carrier in the continental US, you will first need to SIM unlock, either through calling your carrier and requesting a SIM unlock or using the olinex SIM unlocker found in the CDMA forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
There are a couple guides to getting the tp2 working on various carriers.
Wellllll... Where are the guides
Please some help,
I have read and reand and dont find the answer.
i have a world phone, i just to know if there are custom ROMs for them, i use it mainly on GSM but i would not like to lose the CDMA option.
My device is a sprint TP2, i am using it in Mexico, with telcel GSM. I Just want a custom ROM for it, please Help!
parras said:
Please some help,
I have read and reand and dont find the answer.
i have a world phone, i just to know if there are custom ROMs for them, i use it mainly on GSM but i would not like to lose the CDMA option.
My device is a sprint TP2, i am using it in Mexico, with telcel GSM. I Just want a custom ROM for it, please Help!
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Hi mate, even i have Sprit TP2.. with radio unlocked,even i use GSM network. u can switch to any ROM u want.. i m using ENERGY roms, n its working pretty well..
<< http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86489 >> i m using this.
but only upgrade the phone with CDMA roms, as GSM Rom wont work on it. n u wont loose ur CDMA option.
Hi guys,
Planning to buy the m8 and root it. But should I be specific on the variants?
Im not from the US (The Philippines) so Most likely not gonna get atnt, sprint etc.
So my options are:
The international model
Emea (a friend of mine is selling his but it was bought in riyad, KSA)
Or the asian version (s801 2.5ghz)
Do they have like different model nos.? Different ruus / rom versions etc?
Had a bad experience when i bought a phone (m7 sprint wls) before, since im not from the us. Had limited roms available compared to the international version
Your input would really help
Sent from my HTC One
I would agree that you should not get a US variant. For one thing, they will be SIM locked. Another thing, the Sprint and Verizon versions are CDMA. Different software, and possibly different hardware (although its been discussed here, and not clear - but I would err on the side of caution and assume the hardware is different). So if your area does not use CDMA I would stay away from those variants.
All GSM versions, be aware that they can all be converted to another carrier variant once bootloader unlocked and S-off. So as long as you avoid the CDMA versions, you are good for ROMs.
I would suggest the version that supports your local 3G and LTE bands out of the box. But again, as long as you are willing to s-off the phone, you can change that in software. So if that is the case, I would just go with the best deal.
From what I understand, the Asian version is the same as any other GSM version, just with a slight overclock.
Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage and thier phones are :not: sim locked. You can use them with any carrier anywhere. My second choice would be t-mobile
str8str said:
Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage
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The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.
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The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.
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Thanks guys, I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID. I could use any Rom ./ RUU from different GSM variants (I checked the rooting guide for the M8 and is similar to the M7, so as far as unlocking the bootloader / root that I have an idea).
Do they have different RUUs at all??
Czai24 said:
I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID.
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Yes.
Aside from the CDMA RUUs, which I wouldn't try on a GSM version unless you read definitive advice elsewhere that its ok.
Czai24 said:
Do they have different RUUs at all??
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Only US versions have RUU, that I know of.
Yes you're right.
I thought all has ruus on it. But with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
Sent from my HTC One
Czai24 said:
with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
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I believe that will work, yes.
WWE just means "world wide English". I think it refers to the Euro version.
Hello guys! I'm thinking of buying a Harman Kardon SIM unlocked M8, but I've one serious question.
Is every ROM/Kernel cross flashable? Can I flash everything here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development) on it?
Sorry for the noob question, but please help me!
Harmon Kardon edition is Sprint, which is a US carrier with a CDMA network. Unless your local carrier is CDMA-based, I would not advise buying this version. The HK edition is known as a "CDMA" variant (along with the Verizon version). Yes, it does include some GSM support (mainly for Sprint customers while travelling abroad) but its different hardware from just about every other M8 version (which are known as "GSM" versions of the M8).
For the HK edition, you should only flash ROMs specifically intended for the Sprint variant. And that is part of the reason I would not recommend buying this version. Your choice or ROMs would be more limited, and you are better off with a "GSM" M8. Also, radios are interchangeable on the GSM versions, but can't be flashed to the CDMA variants. Meaning for the most part, band compatibility is set on the CDMA version, while on the GSM version, you can flash radios from other carriers and change band compatibility (if you need to do so to get service on your local carrier).
The HK audio mod can be flashed to just about any other M8 version, its just a software mod. So the only desirable thing (if you are not on a CDMA carrier) about the HK edition would be if you like the color scheme, or the HK earbuds.
And no, ROMs and kernels are not all cross-compatible. Sense kernels only work on Sense ROMs, AOSP kernels on AOSP ROMs, etc. Also, you can't mix a KitKat ROM with a Lollipop kernel, and so on. When in doubt, read the kernel thread to check for details.
I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
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I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
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The M9 is due out soon, might wait for that one.
Hondo209 said:
The M9 is due out soon, might wait for that one.
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I was thinking about that, the problem is I always end up getting a phone a generation behind the newest thing! Lol m9 looks amazing though!!
lemonboi5 said:
I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
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For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
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For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
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Right so, Verizon M8 wouldn't work on AT&T? That sucks. I knew Sprint wouldn't but Verizon is nearly compatible with AT&T by now, so thats sad lol
The best price is the Sprint variant, but thats because sprint phones do not have high resell value at all. People hate to deal with them completely and that solely makes the value go down...
I have not looked at the other variants but I will check them out! Thank you! I repaired a One today, It was a lot of work, but nearly any HTC Phone never looks or feels the same after a screen repair, because of that uni body.
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For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
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I have a question. Does T-Mo work with WWE firmware. I'm unsure of this, and have never looked it up. I know that AT&T versions are compatible with 401 firmware. Is T-Mo the same?
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...One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). ...
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but you could check with the seller if it is S-OFF already (as you can be S-OFF with 3.19 if it was already done) if thats what you are going to do anyway.
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Right so, Verizon M8 wouldn't work on AT&T? That sucks. I knew Sprint wouldn't but Verizon is nearly compatible with AT&T by now, so thats sad lol
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Verizon variant will work on AT&T GSM and HSPA network (in addition to being SIM-unlocked out of the box); however, it doesn't have all the LTE bands to work on AT&T in all regions. And while the "GSM" variants can have radio software flashed to change band compatibility, you can't do this on the "CDMA" variants (at least you can't flash a GSM radio on a CDMA variant to open up all the needed LTE bands).
Similar situation on Sprint version. Except I think the Sprint comes SIM locked out of the box (you will need to get it SIM unlocked). And also the LTE bands are different from the Verizon version, but still not all the bands needed to work on AT&T in all regions.
My point in highlighting the hardware difference (CDMA versus GSM variants) is not only are the radio basebands not interchangeable (as mentioned) but neither are the ROMs. For the CDMA versions, you should only flash ROMs that specify that version is supported. The GSM versions can flash any of the GSM ROMs, and there is a much wider selection.
Again, there isn't a benefit to either of the CDMA variants (for use on AT&T), and several critical downsides, so I generally don't recommend them to basically any user that isn't on the specific carrier (Verizon or Sprint).
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but you could check with the seller if it is S-OFF already (as you can be S-OFF with 3.19 if it was already done) if thats what you are going to do anyway.
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True, if the device is being sold second hand, you can (and should) always check to see if its already s-off.
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xunholyx said:
I have a question. Does T-Mo work with WWE firmware. I'm unsure of this, and have never looked it up. I know that AT&T versions are compatible with 401 firmware. Is T-Mo the same?
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Aside from the exceptions previously listed, all GSM M8's are the same hardware, and firmware should be interchangeable (with s-off). T-Mobile version should be able to flash WWE firmware. Although, if you want to be prudent, you can check and confirm to see if any T-Mobile owners have done so successfully.
Hi,
I have Bell HTC M8 and m trying to unlock LTE bands .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Followed all the steps to write RF values.But the RF values reset to default.Read it a few places that it could be coz of the rom(currenlty running viperon 5.0.3) having NV lock .
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I have Bell HTC M8 and m trying to unlock LTE bands .
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Your post says Bell M8, but your signature says Sprint One (might mean the old M7?).
I've only seen the mod for changing NV values (to unlock bands) work on the "CDMA" M8 version Sprint and Verizon. The mod doesn't work (at least I haven't seen anyone get it to work) on other M8 versions, the NV values are locked regardless of the ROM. And I believe Bell is a GSM carrier, and would not be the CDMA variant?
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Your post says Bell M8, but your signature says Sprint One (might mean the old M7?).
I've only seen the mod for changing NV values (to unlock bands) work on the "CDMA" M8 version Sprint and Verizon. The mod doesn't work (at least I haven't seen anyone get it to work) on other M8 versions, the NV values are locked regardless of the ROM. And I believe Bell is a GSM carrier, and would not be the CDMA variant?
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Hi ,
Yeah mine is Bell M8 .The instruction never mentioned anything related to phone been only CDMA .Read a few places ever since kitkat the NV has been locked .
stonelessrock said:
The instruction never mentioned anything related to phone been only CDMA
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Those instructions you linked aren't device specific (and also from the Samsung Galaxy S5 forum section), and can't be depended on to convey all the M8 device specific nuances and details.
There is a similar modding guide in this (M8) section, but again the original source is not specific to the M8. And its unclear whether the OP even tested it on an M8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/unlock-bands-qualcomm-device-phone-t2880239
If you look through the subsequent posts, you will see multiple failure reports on GSM M8 versions, and the only reports of success on CDMA (Verizon, Sprint) versions.