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[Q] Root "disabled" itself!? (Rooted phone that is no longer allowing root access)
Anyone here with this phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!
In SuperSU, try the clean-up for reinstallation option.
DocHoliday77 said:
In SuperSU, try the clean-up for reinstallation option.
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when launching SuperSU it needs root access to begin with and SuperUser wont allow..this clean up for reinstall is still doable?
Get the recovery flashable SuperSU then. It'll get rid of the other one in the process. You can get it from my sig, but it'll need to be updated after.
Hello everyone, please be patient with me as I am relatively new to modifying phones. However, I have spent a good portion of the past 1-2 weeks looking into this problem on XDA + google, and I am at the end of my rope.
Here is my problem (I'm sure you already know):
I have no current solution to installing a custom recovery on my phone. I really just want custom recovery to restore FULL backups via Nandroid or equivalent.
Here are my questions:
1) In download mode, Odin has no problem flashing an official image/firmware (tar.md5) to the phone. Is it possible to create my own image of my phone into one file and flash it via Odin to my phone when I would like to restore? I have a feeling that something in the phone checks the hash of the image (I'm sure that I'm not saying it right), and that, considering my image would be twice the size of the official, there would be no way to make my image pass using collisions or what not. However, this would probably be my first choice after safestrap (assuming that won't work), so let me know.
2) I have read that certain people with phones similar to mine (not my variant though) have successfully "swapped" the external and internal SD cards. If I remember correctly they just change a couple lines in void.fstab. If this could actually be done, I could easily restore a backup to the now external internal SD, then change the settings to reswap on reboot. I feel like this is too good to be true though, as I have not seen this as a solution to my specific problem online. Is this actually a suitable option?
3) Currently my phone model is not an officially recognized device which Safestrap will work on. However, I have read that it is possible to do on my model using the Safestrap version which corresponds to a close variant of my phone. Can this be done? Please let me know if you have any information on this.
4) I guess this would be the last resort. I'm pretty good at taking things apart, but even better I can put those things back together Is the internal "SD" really just an SD card deep inside the phone? Would it be possible to replace that card for the purpose of backing up?
Here are my phone specs:
-Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini (SCH-I435)
-The carrier is Verizon Wireless
-Android Version 4.4.2 (kitkat)
-Baseband Version I435VRUBOC1
-Kernel Version 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 Fri May 23 2014
-Build Number KOT49H.I435VRUBOC1
-Hardware Version I435.05
-Configuration version B13.SAM.SCHI435.0
-Needless to say, phone is rooted and has busybox + etc correctly installed.
Any help will be greatly, GREATLY appreciated -- even if that help is telling me that it isn't possible. I can't seem to give up on this.
Thanks,
Kurt
Help
Does anyone have any advice on this? I would REALLY appreciate it. Thanks again.
-Kurt
I'm also interested on this. Thanks for your efforts
Nope no recovery because the Verizon minis bootloader is locked. It can be rooted with kingroot i think its called and then switched to SuperSU by replacing it.(I used super sume pro to get rid of kr) ****!!After root install a application like "disable application [root]" and disabe all Knox applications and any unused apps.(look for a list of recommended apps to disable)
Kannz2 said:
Nope no recovery because the Verizon minis bootloader is locked. It can be rooted with kingroot i think its called and then switched to SuperSU by replacing it.(I used super sume pro to get rid of kr) ****!!After root install a application like "disable application [root]" and disabe all Knox applications and any unused apps.(look for a list of recommended apps to disable)
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How did you switch it over to SuperSU? I tried, but when it tried updating the root binaries it couldn't continue because of KNOX, so I was stuck with Kingoroot's.
I used this method to replace KINGROOT NewKingrootV4.50_C120_B220_xda_release_2015_07_22_105243 with supersu. most other versions i tried didnt want to cooperate and would make me lose root after one reboot. also i bought the pro version of supersume pro its 4$ off google play.
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I used this method to replace KINGROOT NewKingrootV4.50_C120_B220_xda_release_2015_07_22_105243 with supersu. most other versions i tried didnt want to cooperate and would make me lose root after one reboot. also i bought the pro version of supersume pro its 4$ off google play.
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I tried it with the free version they linked to and it de-rooted it, so maybe I'll try later when I have enough Opinion Rewards credit to get the pro version. That or it doesn't work on this phone with Kingoroot. (The Google Play description says it should do Kingoroot though.)
Did you download the correct version? The one off the kingroot site doesn't work for me. It just deroots. I still have root on both of my s4mini Verizon phones. Try this link to get a working one.HERE scroll down a bit and the different versions are there. Try each one starting with 4.5. Also remember to restart after you root with kingroot and install super sume after the restart.
I just had to re-image my phone, so I did it according to your directions. (Though with the free version still of super sume) and it worked, although it won't update to the newest root binaries. It fails when I try. Did you have this issue? Other than that, SuperSU works.
I updated using "normal" and it worked fine for me. Glad su works at least. also for one phone I did a full unroot factory reset and then I reflashed a tar with Odin. Did the normal root with kingroot 4.5. Restarted tried a few root things like no frills cpu thing then installed super sume pro. Did stage 1. An 2 then supersu started up automatically it asks to update (I think net connection is needed) *do update "normal" because there isnt any recovery. Uninstalled kingroot like supersume says. Did a few root things then restarted. (Checked for superuser after reboot and it stayed)
I'm brand new to this website, and have only signed up because I cannot find a solution for this problem. I have always used the forum to get answers, but never though to join! My Galaxy Tab S 8.4 4G T705Y was put through the CF-Auto-Root method, and no a glitch at all. Very smooth. By the way I checked the ChainFire website to make sure I was using the latest. When my device started up I noticed, as I have done before with my Nexus phones, that SuperSU has been added. Good Sign!
But when I open SuperSU I was prompted to update the Binary. Then I pressed 'continue', used the 'normal' method, and waited. It then asked me if I would like to Disable Knox. Yes I would! FAILED TO DISABLE KNOX. Shut down SuperSU. Unhappy Face. As you can see at this point, I am not very up to speed with my rooting knowledge.
So then I decided to select the 'never' option to updating SuperSU, and still it failed to update the binary, I'd say due to Knox stopping it from gaining access.
So my pickle is this: I can't update SuperSU because Knox will not allow me to use SuperSU. I cannot simply hit yes to disabling Knox in SuperSU, as that didn't work for me. I also tried finding something called Knox on my tablet and it seems to be very elusive. I tried updating SuperSU on Play Store also, but to no avail!
I am also unable to use any third party app to do so as I need to grant them access in SuperSU before they can begin! And around I go...
There is a guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540761 but it's not for my device so I'm a bit hesitant to start trying random things, as my device is working great atm!
Any info or help would be greatly appreciated!
Look in the android development section for my updated builds of cf_autoroot and flash that.
If you still get issues flash supersu v2.49 with twrp.
ashyx said:
Look in the android development section for my updated builds of cf_autoroot and flash that.
If you still get issues flash supersu v2.49 with twrp.
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That seemed to at least do something, now it's saying there is no SU Binary installed. So I googled how to do that, then saw you needed TWRP to do so. And in order to get that, I needed the SDK and JDK, so I got them, but then in then couldn't find any of the right files in the SDK folder when trying to install through command prompt. There is a cool program called TWRP Manager that claims to do it, but you need root access. Lets not go there. So method 2: you needed to use a program like GooManager. But even then root access seems to be the order of the day. Ive tried Terminal Emulator and Package disabler also.
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That seemed to at least do something, now it's saying there is no SU Binary installed. So I googled how to do that, then saw you needed TWRP to do so. And in order to get that, I needed the SDK and JDK, so I got them, but then in then couldn't find any of the right files in the SDK folder when trying to install through command prompt. There is a cool program called TWRP Manager that claims to do it, but you need root access. Lets not go there. So method 2: you needed to use a program like GooManager. But even then root access seems to be the order of the day. Ive tried Terminal Emulator and Package disabler also.
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UPDATE: So now I have managed to try and install the version of superSU that you have released in the dev thread, using TWRP. seemed to work fine, but i still got the same binary missing error.
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That seemed to at least do something, now it's saying there is no SU Binary installed. So I googled how to do that, then saw you needed TWRP to do so. And in order to get that, I needed the SDK and JDK, so I got them, but then in then couldn't find any of the right files in the SDK folder when trying to install through command prompt. There is a cool program called TWRP Manager that claims to do it, but you need root access. Lets not go there. So method 2: you needed to use a program like GooManager. But even then root access seems to be the order of the day. Ive tried Terminal Emulator and Package disabler also.
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Whoah way way way over complicating things. You just install twrp with odin and that's it.
Then you flash this with twrp http://download.chainfire.eu/743/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.52.zip
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Whoah way way way over complicating things. You just install twrp with odin and that's it.
Then you flash this with twrp
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So this is what I do.
Power off device.
Restart in Download Mode.
Use Odin to install the cf-autoroot-twrp-t705.tar from the development section.
When device restarts I put supersu version 2.52 (beta) on the devices memory, then turn off device.
Restart in TWRP Recovery mode, hit install, choose the zip file, install, reboot device.
When device reboots, open superuser and get this message: "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If you just upgraded to Android 4.3, you need to manually re-root - consult the relevant forums for your device".
I swear i'm not blonde. :good:
Something is blocking supersu from installing. Which firmware build is this device running and is reactivation lock disabled?
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Something is blocking supersu from installing. Which firmware build is this device running and is reactivation lock disabled?
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**Googles how to check firmware version** Build Number KOT49H.T705YDOU1ANG1
**Googles how to bypass reactivation lock...** hmm seems hard. And I cant see it as an option in my security menu.
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**Googles how to check firmware version** Build Number KOT49H.T705YDOU1ANG1
**Googles how to bypass reactivation lock...** hmm seems hard. And I cant see it as an option in my security menu.
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UPDATE: So I went into my Samsung account and Performed a factory reset. Only had the device a few days so no biggy. Then as it reset i chose not to put in and Samsung details and skip all the options i could, assuming this would help. Flashed cf autoroot with odin, then updated supersu through twrp... still nothing
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**Googles how to check firmware version** Build Number KOT49H.T705YDOU1ANG1
**Googles how to bypass reactivation lock...** hmm seems hard. And I cant see it as an option in my security menu.
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UPDATE: SUCCESS! I used the latest version of Kingroot available on this forum. From looking around, you are a very patient person ashyx. Thanks for all your help!
clint.fish said:
UPDATE: SUCCESS! I used the latest version of Kingroot available on this forum. From looking around, you are a very patient person ashyx. Thanks for all your help!
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This doesn't make sense. Something is amiss if you can't root with cf_autoroot or twrp. You are the only one as far as I'm aware that has experienced this.
Reactivation lock is under 'Find my phone' in security settings.
clint.fish said:
I'm brand new to this website, and have only signed up because I cannot find a solution for this problem. I have always used the forum to get answers, but never though to join! My Galaxy Tab S 8.4 4G T705Y was put through the CF-Auto-Root method, and no a glitch at all. Very smooth. By the way I checked the ChainFire website to make sure I was using the latest. When my device started up I noticed, as I have done before with my Nexus phones, that SuperSU has been added. Good Sign!
But when I open SuperSU I was prompted to update the Binary. Then I pressed 'continue', used the 'normal' method, and waited. It then asked me if I would like to Disable Knox. Yes I would! FAILED TO DISABLE KNOX. Shut down SuperSU. Unhappy Face. As you can see at this point, I am not very up to speed with my rooting knowledge.
So then I decided to select the 'never' option to updating SuperSU, and still it failed to update the binary, I'd say due to Knox stopping it from gaining access.
So my pickle is this: I can't update SuperSU because Knox will not allow me to use SuperSU. I cannot simply hit yes to disabling Knox in SuperSU, as that didn't work for me. I also tried finding something called Knox on my tablet and it seems to be very elusive. I tried updating SuperSU on Play Store also, but to no avail!
I am also unable to use any third party app to do so as I need to grant them access in SuperSU before they can begin! And around I go...
There is a guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540761 but it's not for my device so I'm a bit hesitant to start trying random things, as my device is working great atm!
Any info or help would be greatly appreciated!
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Chimed in with some feedback but noticed your problem solved after I replied. Unable to delete. Glad to see you're good to go though.
Android Pay use after rooting has been discussed in a few other threads, here on XDA, notably the 6P and 5X Nexi:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/android-pay-root-t3309072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659
With our newly rooted H830s (courtesy of http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/development/root-h830-t3384526), it'd be nice to collect our information here.
I am very interested in how Android Pay may or may not work after our TOT flash. Here's a quick tutorial:
SuperSU must install via a 'systemless' root method due to security changes with Marshmallow. Thus, when SuperSU is flashed in TWRP as described in the TOT root thread, it can only install this way. It should not affect the /system partition.
Android Pay uses the "Safetynet API" to detect for tampering/root. What they classify as tampering is not entirely clear. But they do check /system among other things. It looks like apps that have altered the /system partition in some way are detected via this method.
(more boring info here http://www.howtogeek.com/241012/saf...y-and-other-apps-dont-work-on-rooted-devices/ )
It must also check the permissions of the /su/bin folder, as it should have a 751 permission profile (which is the described fix in the TOT root original post).
That is:
-Run "adb shell"
-From the shell run "su"
-On the # prompt run "chmod 751 /su/bin/"
Or, you can use root explorer to change the permissions octal to 751 for that folder.
It is set to this permission state in the rooted TOT upon first install. Obviously other root alterations you do may change it.
There are apps, such as Safetynet Helper sample (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scottyab.safetynet.sample), which can utilize the API to see if the API is tripped.
Right after installing the TOT and getting everything to boot properly, the app shows everything is still kosher. I was able to run Android Pay, add credit cards, and have confirmed with a payment transaction.
I believe any root app that doesn't make permanent changes to /system in and of itself will probably keep Android Pay working. Obviously, for instance, if you have a terminal program app with root, and run some commands that alter your system partition/files, it may trip SafetyNet, though just having the app installed does not.
EDIT1: As of 7/25/16, a change was made to the SafetyNet API and it now detects systemless root. Android Pay no longer works on rooted devices, regardless of method. A new method will need to be developed.
EDIT2: As of 8/22/16, a workaround has been developed and tested!​Developer @topjohnwu has created Magisk (http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382). This is a new way of integrating systemless changes into Android devices. This includes root, xposed, etc. The unique thing with Magisk is that you can instantly un-root your device, run Android Pay, and then reactivate root, all without rebooting. It is pretty seamless.
See the referenced thread for the latest information. It does take some work to install but it's fairly straightforward.
If you want to start from a clean install, @Gungrave223 has detailed the steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68353051&postcount=22
If you want to keep your data, it's just slightly more work. Assuming you are starting with a rooted install, here is a quick summary on how to do this:
0. You may want to first un-register the cards you have in Android Pay. Some banks apparently only allow a set # of installs before they block additional installs, thus requiring you to call the bank directly to have them reset that number. If Android Pay resets (unsure what security changes trigger this), it will forget your cards, thus leaving those cards registered on a phantom install. Un-registering first may prevent this.
1. Get the Magisk flashable zip, the Magisk-altered phh-superuser.zip, and the Magisk manager apk from the referenced thread.
2. Go to SuperSU and select full unroot. DO NOT restore the stock boot.img. DO NOT restore the default recovery. The phone should reboot and your root will be lost.
3. You should now restore the stock boot.img. This can be done without losing your data or re-encrypting your data. There are 2 ways.
Flash autoprime's stock boot.img zip file through TWRP (recommended), OR
Flash the TWRP-ed TOT file through LGUP, using the UPGRADE (not refurbish) setting
Why not just allow SuperSU to restore the stock boot.img in step 2? Because it will reboot instantly into system and start encrypting your data, with no way for you to intervene and boot into TWRP first!
4. You likely did not have data encryption on your initial rooted installation. If you want to keep yourself un-encrypted, you MUST immediately boot into TWRP before the next power on. If you do not, it will re-encrypt your data. This is the default behavior of the stock boot partition, which you just restored in the step above. You can make this easy for yourself by TWRP flashing autoprime's stock boot.zip and then immediately doing the next steps. Note: Magisk can be installed just fine on a phone with an encrypted data partition if you don't care about data encryption.
Flash the magisk.zip from the Magisk thread. This installs Magisk and also disables the forced encryption (just like the dm-verity zip)
Re-establish root by then flashing the special modified phh-superuser.zip
Note: Chainfire's SuperSU is NOT compatible if you want to use Android Pay
5. Reboot into system. You need to then install from the Playstore phh's superuser app. You also need to install the Magisk manager apk. Grant all your usual apps root permission in the superuser app.
6. Run Magisk Manager and grant it superuser access. You'll find a simple toggle to mount/unmount root. Unmount! Check that SafetyNet will pass. If you've done everything right, it will!
7. Run Android Pay. Add your card(s) back. Mount root back and go about your business.
8. When you want to use Android Pay, unmount root and run the app. Here's a tricky part (and currently a work in progress). We do not know how often or when Android Pay checks for root. We DO know that it does this when you initiate adding a new card. So you can try an Android Pay transaction. If it fails (they often do, even if you are unmounted root at that time), pretend to add a card, cancel it, and then do the transaction again. It should work now!
pay was not working after I installed the Fluence patch, uninstalled xposed and Android Pay is working with no issues with root.
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pay was not working after I installed the Fluence patch, uninstalled xposed and Android Pay is working with no issues with root.
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The Fluence patch has a huge # of system changes. I would totally expect xposed to break the SafetyNet.
So do you have Fluence still installed, with only xposed removed?
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The Fluence patch has a huge # of system changes. I would totally expect xposed to break the SafetyNet.
So do you have Fluence still installed, with only xposed removed?
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Yup you got it, I had been running Xposed off Fluence for a while until I left my wallet at home and didn't feel like starving. So I downloaded the Xposed uninstaller only, ran it in recovery and then let it reboot and Pay was working again.
I followed the instructions for rooting in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p-step-guides-rooting-t-mobile-lg-g5-t3388272 and then the instructions here to change the permissions but an still having problems. The only app root app I installed after rooting was an app to export google play music with track names intact.
What problems specifically are you having?
Did you install the safetynet helper app? What happens when you run it?
What root app did you install? Was it this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620331 (play music exporter) aka https://www.david-schulte.de/en/play-music-exporter/
Looks like that app doesn't work in MM regardless, per the developer's page.
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What problems specifically are you having?
Did you install the safetynet helper app? What happens when you run it?
What root app did you install? Was it this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620331 (play music exporter) aka https://www.david-schulte.de/en/play-music-exporter/
Looks like that app doesn't work in MM regardless, per the developer's page.
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Yes, that is the app. I noticed MM was not supported after I had it installed
I have installed and run the safetynet app and it shows it gets tripped on the CTS profile
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I just realized I also had Adguard installed. I have uninstalled it and turned off suppersu and restarted but the phone still does not pass the CTS profile check
Wondering if any of those apps made some changes to /system that were not completely reversed.
Doesn't look like that music app does any permanent changes anyway, rather just copies cache not normally accessible into another folder.
Can you check the permission profile of your /su/bin folder?
Briefly looking at the Adguard website I can't make out how its root version works exactly.
What other apps are listed under your SuperSU app list? You're not running xposed, right?
Apps listed in supersu are adb shell, root checker basic, and Titanium backup.
Titanium backup was installed after safetynet app test failed.
I'm not 100% sure what the permissions are but I followed your instructions above to change the permissions and it appeared to run correctly
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Apps listed in supersu are adb shell, root checker basic, and Titanium backup.
Titanium backup was installed after safetynet app test failed.
I'm not 100% sure what the permissions are but I followed your instructions above to change the permissions and it appeared to run correctly
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SafetyNet still failing after the permissions change?
It was today. I can try changing them again tonight when I'm at my computer and report back.
I have confirmed that the folder permissions are set to 751
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I have confirmed that the folder permissions are set to 751
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Well if we can't track down the actual changes made, and you're interested in getting Android pay to work, you could try reflashing the system partition.
It looks like from reports on other threads (Nexus mostly), that something has changed with the SafetyNet check. Phones that were working just fine yesterday now fail. Most likely something server-side was patched so now Android Pay will not work with systemless root.
Details updated as I find them.
For those interested in this topic, a pretty major development has occurred at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382
Essentially, this is a brand new way to implement root systemless, which can be toggled via an app, without rebooting. This does allow the SafetyNet api to remain untripped. The steps involved include flashing back to stock kernel/system, flashing the application .zips, and flashing special SuperSU or SuperUser .zips. I have not done any of this yet as it is still very early.
There are some reports, unfortunately, such as this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68045722&postcount=121
which reports that despite SafetyNet passing, Android Pay still does not work (user is on Nexus 6P).
I have read of no G5 users doing this yet, but there is a V10 user who has. Stay tuned.
I've been watching the Magisk threads for the past week and decided to take the plunge today. Many Nexus phones seem to have a lot of trouble with Android Pay, but other makes seem to do better. There were confirmations from LG G4 owners. As of this writing Magisk is on v3.
The install steps from the Magisk thread are this:
1. Reflash a stock boot.img to reset your systemless root
2. Flash Magisk.zip
3. Flash modified phh-superuser.zip (not the official one). Chainfire's SuperSU does not currently have as much support, but there is a modified supersu zip as well.
4. Boot and install phh's superuser app from the App store.
5. A 'magisk manager' app is installed via the flashed .zips. This allows you to turn off root for a set # of minutes, without rebooting.
Given the unique way the G5 is rooted, with automatic encryption, I figured it might not be so simple to install this if I wanted to keep my data without a full wipe. It quickly became much more complicated than what I wanted. Here's exactly what happened.
First, I made a full boot+system+data backup.
Then, these were my thoughts/concerns:
I have Adaway installed with the systemless addon zip and SuperSU installed. Magisk installation requests flashing back the stock boot.img. What would this do to the supersu install and Adaway?
The adaway systemless zip makes a script file which is kept in the /su/su.d/ folder. I removed this.
The SuperSU has a complete uninstall feature. As part of this uninstall process, it asks if you want to restore the boot.img (yes--this stock one is backed-up after the initial supersu.zip flash during our initial root/TOT process) and/or the recovery (no, don't do this, but it probably would not have done anything as there is no stock recovery backup). I thought this would accomplish our goal. It does warn you that you may have re-encrypting of the data partition if you go this route.
And unfortunately, after rebooting, it automatically and immediately encrypted the data partition.
Well shoot. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an encrypted data partition cannot be worked on. It booted just fine, but without root.
I started having some doubts at this time so I decided to try to restore back to my initial setup. Through TWRP, I wiped the data partition and flashed the no-verity.zip, to hopefully stop any re-encryption.
Then, after figuring out how to mount system properly (TWRP defaulted to mount system as r/o), I restored my nandroid backup in its entirety.
But upon reboot, it went immediately into bootloader mode. And it continued to do this after every battery pull and power on. I had never heard of this before! Finally, I realized I could still boot into TWRP. I flashed the 10Dcomplete.zip made by autoprime, restoring the boot and system partitions to stock. And then I flashed the magisk v3.zip and the modified phh-superuser zip.
It finally rebooted into Android, with data intact! Oddly, my unlock pattern had changed without my knowledge, but the backup PIN worked. I installed the market phh Superuser. Magisk is installed properly and it passes SafetyNet, and I can add cards to the app. I'll test out Android Pay next opportunity I have.
If I had to do it all again and wanted to keep data intact, this is what I would do.
1. Autoprime did make a 10D boot flashable zip. So this would restore the stock boot.img as intended. There are some files to clean up, such as data/su.img, but that can be dealt with later.
2. I do not know if just flashing the stock boot.img would result in re-encrypting. It probably would. So, immediately after flashing the boot.img in TWRP I would flash magisk and the phh-superuser.
Alternatively, they say you should not dirty flash for things this complex. So consider starting completely new from a 10Dcomplete flash with wiped data.
I've learned that Magisk will work fine with an encrypted data partition, so if you are set on having that, it won't be a problem.
waylo said:
I have a thread here discussing Android Pay while rooted on our G5s:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmob...le-g5-t3395036
I thought I was the only one who cared about this kind of stuff!
Which version Magisk did you install?
I just did this 2 days ago but haven't had the opportunity to test AP yet.
What rooted apps are you running? AdAway?
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To answer your question... I'm using v3 with his v2 of his modified phh superuser.
As for rooted apps...yes AdAways still works perfectly....TB...my one time use of System App Remover etc...
I haven't been able to test Android util tomorrow....but SafetyNet did pass when Magisk was disabled and failed when enabled.
I'll report back tomorrow after I go buy my weekly chicken at my local Fresh Mart.
I'm using the same install as you.
I tried it this AM for the first time and it failed.
On the Magisk-AP thread, someone has posited that maybe the AP app caches any root inquires during that boot. So if you test out AP and it fails while the root is active, it will remember that failure until the next reboot.
That could explain how so many people are getting weird inconsistent results. I'm testing out that theory later today.
Bah, still doesn't work, even if done immediately after a reboot =(
Suddenly I get a warning telling me to uninstall king root 4.9.6. I've been running same fulmics 6 for months and I just discovered the warning sign today.
What is this? Is there any potential danger to keeping king root? If I uninstall king root I will loose root privileges, yes?
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Suddenly I get a warning telling me to uninstall king root 4.9.6. I've been running same fulmics 6 for months and I just discovered the warning sign today.
What is this? Is there any potential danger to keeping king root? If I uninstall king root I will loose root privileges, yes?
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Fulmics has SuperSu installed as System application,there was no need to install KingRoot..
Also if you have two Root apps (same like SuperSu),then your phone isn't going to have a good time..
So delete KingRoot and stay with SuperSu.
Greetings.
Thx. I used king root to first get root access so I could install fulmics. Iirc I found the king root from a post here on the forum, so I assumed it was safe.
I disabled king root.btw it is fulmics 6.1 I got. It seems all things good now. I feel a little paranoid, as I discovered king root is from China ?
I wonder if I should do complete install from scratch or am I safe as long as king root is not longer active?
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Thx. I used king root to first get root access so I could install fulmics. Iirc I found the king root from a post here on the forum, so I assumed it was safe.
I disabled king root.btw it is fulmics 6.1 I got. It seems all things good now. I feel a little paranoid, as I discovered king root is from China ?
I wonder if I should do complete install from scratch or am I safe as long as king root is not longer active?
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The best choice is to uninstall it.Because it has setted it's self as a system application.
But also i think it has an option (in-app) "Uninstall".
In addition if Kingroot is unable to uninstall by using the inapp option then try installing an app from Play store called " System app remover" and delete it from there.
If nothing works then doing a clean re-installation of the ROM would be a great option.
A Tip:Never install an other Root application while you have SuperSU.
Let's take Kingroot for an example, when you have SuperSU and install Kingroot then automatically Kingroot detects that you have an other root application and it set's it's self as system app.
System app remover did the trick. Removed the King Root app. Result is o/c that adaway is no longer working. So I get to play around with SuperSU now. As I am new to SuperSU I am not sure how to get the correct settings. Should I make SuperSU a system app? Or set permanent full root?
Btw, I never had any problems running King Root. It was even a very nice way to charge the phone because King Root made charging go faster.
I've been thinking about the warning sign I got, and could it possible be a generic warning because King Root had root access? Meaning I would get the same warning with other apps with root access?
It seems strange that King Root that is mentioned som many times here on XDA should be crapware. Surely some smart people would have noticed and made posts about it? I am thinking maybe I panic'd and removed King Root prematurely?
Darn it. SuperSU won't run or allow me to set root access to apps. So no TWRP does not work, adaway does not work, root checker confirms I don't have root anymore and to make things worse, SuperSU says I need to upgrade, so I downloaded the latest version as a zip file to install from TWRP but guess what, no more root access. I will try to boot manually into TWRP and install SuperSU. Hopefully that will work.
And reading SuperSU thread it clearly says I must have ROOT prioer to install SuperSU.
Is there are fulmics setting somewhere I have overlooked? Can I set root from within fulmics tweaks?
Well I didn't get the SuperSU working, then I discovered that there was a newer version of KingRoot, v5.0. So for the ease of it I just installed KingRoot v5.0. As of right now, I don't have any warning signs saying Kingroot is bad news.
So unless it is a known fact that kingroot is infected by crap/malware/spyware/whatever I think I just stick to that one for now. I am used to it, I know how to work it and google didn't find any indications kingroot has been compromised . I saw a few posts about earlier version sending IMEI to china, but it seems that was v3xx. v4x and5x seems to be ok.
If this is stupid behavior and I should remove king root let me know and pls add some links or something to back it. I would hate to give a compromised app gateway into my phone but at the same time I think I was in panic mode earlier today and that my reaction was uncalled for.
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Well I didn't get the SuperSU working, then I discovered that there was a newer version of KingRoot, v5.0. So for the ease of it I just installed KingRoot v5.0. As of right now, I don't have any warning signs saying Kingroot is bad news.
So unless it is a known fact that kingroot is infected by crap/malware/spyware/whatever I think I just stick to that one for now. I am used to it, I know how to work it and google didn't find any indications kingroot has been compromised . I saw a few posts about earlier version sending IMEI to china, but it seems that was v3xx. v4x and5x seems to be ok.
If this is stupid behavior and I should remove king root let me know and pls add some links or something to back it. I would hate to give a compromised app gateway into my phone but at the same time I think I was in panic mode earlier today and that my reaction was uncalled for.
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Then if you are used to Kingroot just uninstall SuperSu(Install the system app remover from Play store ((the first app that appears)).
Because as i mentioned before if you have two Root applications your phone isn't going to have a good time.
(That may be the problem your phone went to Panic Mode)
If you have Kernel Panic mode problems (after unstalling SuperSU) a clean reinstall of the latest version of Fulmics ROM would be great..
PS:I don't know if Kingroot has any type of virus but I'll check if it has anything malicious.
As i checked you said that you lost root access and you took it back with Kingroot right?
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Then if you are used to Kingroot just uninstall SuperSu(Install the system app remover from Play store ((the first app that appears)).
Because as i mentioned before if you have two Root applications your phone isn't going to have a good time.
(That may be the problem your phone went to Panic Mode)
If you have Kernel Panic mode problems (after unstalling SuperSU) a clean reinstall of the latest version of Fulmics ROM would be great..
PS:I don't know if Kingroot has any type of virus but I'll check if it has anything malicious.
As i checked you said that you lost root access and you took it back with Kingroot right?
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Seems I am good after all. Turned out I messed up the fulmics 6.1 badly when trying to get adaway for youtube to work. So now I got fulmics 6.5. Yeah I know it is not the latest but I had slow internet connection and 6.5 was already downloaded but not yet installed so I just picked that and did a swipe, and twrp install of fulmics 6.5.
I did however install king root 5.01 again to get an easy way of getting everything else important installed that requires root.
If I don't see more warnings I think I will be fine. If I do I will take the plunge for superSU and read up on that before making the switch.
If I see those warning signs again I will try not to panic and try to keep calm