I can't connect to my wifi when its on N, I can see it but it just sits at "saved" under the SSID then eventually "Disabled" When I set it to B/G it connected just fine though. are there wifi N settings I should avoid?
Are you talking about a 5Ghz network? If so, I've found that some devices can be picky about how it's configured. I had mine set to Ch 36 with 40Mhz channel width and control sideband set to "Lower", and certain devices - including my phone - wouldn't authenticate. I switched to Ch 40 with sideband set to "Upper" and now it connects. You might just have to play with those settings a bit.
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Are you talking about a 5Ghz network? If so, I've found that some devices can be picky about how it's configured. I had mine set to Ch 36 with 40Mhz channel width and control sideband set to "Lower", and certain devices - including my phone - wouldn't authenticate. I switched to Ch 40 with sideband set to "Upper" and now it connects. You might just have to play with those settings a bit.
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Hmm mine was set on auto, but I couldn't connect to 2.4 or 5 while they were on N. I'll fiddle with it more when I get home.
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goodtimes50 said:
Are you talking about a 5Ghz network? If so, I've found that some devices can be picky about how it's configured. I had mine set to Ch 36 with 40Mhz channel width and control sideband set to "Lower", and certain devices - including my phone - wouldn't authenticate. I switched to Ch 40 with sideband set to "Upper" and now it connects. You might just have to play with those settings a bit.
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You can't set a 5GHz network to B/G.
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You can't set a 5GHz network to B/G.
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Ah, correct. I missed that part...
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You can't set a 5GHz network to B/G.
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It's a dual band router so I was talking about 5ghz originally, howeverthe only mode I could connect to was the 2.4 band when set to the b/g standards not n
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I was wondering if anyone else was having a problem connecting to 5Ghz networks on their GN.
I have an Airport Extreme Dual band base station and my phone can only connect to the 2.4Ghz band.
Using Wifi analyzer I can see my 5Ghz network but trying to connect to it does nothing, if I set the wifi mode to 5Ghz only in Settings->wifi->advanced my network doesn't show up at all.
Anyone else expercing a similar issue? This is on a GSM Nexus with the 4.0.2 Yakuju build.
Can't say I've had a problem. Stock or Rooted, I was able to connect to my "5G" wireless connection. I was surprised to see it appear in the available networks.
Sorry man, no. I've connected to two different routers via 5g. One Netgear, one Asus.
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No problems here connecting to Linksys e4200 5ghz.
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I have a NETGEAR- N600 Wireless-N Dual Band Router with 4-port Gigabit Switch with no issues connecting.
Galaxy Nexus only connects on channels 36, 40, 44 and 48 on the 5Ghz band. You need to go into your router settings and change it from whatever it is right now (typically auto) to one of the numbers I just listed.
Anyone know why this has been limited to so few channels?
I know there are various regulatory reasons but the phone should be choosing the ranges relevant to my locale which are far higher than what I seem to be getting.
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No issues here with my 5Ghz router. I have a dual band router and it picks up both bands.
I used to see my neighbors 5ghz network. It seems once I flashed the new Verizon baseband/radio that I can't anymore. I was standing above it and couldn't see it.
I'm thinking of buying one because houses are close together in my neighborhood and I can pick up dozens of networks. They all trample each other. My neighbor doesn't even use his.
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Yeah anyone know why it's limited like that? My router is on channel 157 (not sure why) and although I could change it I don't see why I would need to
I also have a fourth generation of Apple's Airport Extreme, and I actually set up a separate network only on 5Ghz. Connecting perfectly fine on my GN, never had a single issue.
if you still having connecting issues, make sure to use AES instead of TKIP security.
5Ghz Wifi problems ? !
Hello
I have these Problems too.
Im now for 2 Month an owner of the SGN GSM, no connection problems since then.
But now since 3 days im unable to connect with my AVM Fritz 7390 WLAN Router and the 5GHZ on Channel 36 or 40 whatelse, the 2,4 Ghz works properly.
Im now on the Baseband i950XXKL1. But also with the Baseband XXKK6 no luck to connect
I just started getting these problems lately too, it used to connect no problem
5GHz worked fine for me on default settings with 4.0.1.
As soon as I upgraded to 4.0.2 (or later) it ceased to work.
Code:
I/wpa_supplicant( 281): wlan0: Authentication with <mac address> timed out.
I/wpa_supplicant( 281): wlan0: Trying to associate with <mac address> (SSID='ThePad50' freq=5200 MHz)
I/wpa_supplicant( 281): wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-ASSOC-REJECT status_code=16
Please star this issue if you're affected: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22474
Edit: It's not a channel issue.
Try disabling security altogether just to see if it works.
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Try disabling security altogether just to see if it works.
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that doesn't work for me either
tommyz2kool said:
Galaxy Nexus only connects on channels 36, 40, 44 and 48 on the 5Ghz band. You need to go into your router settings and change it from whatever it is right now (typically auto) to one of the numbers I just listed.
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FWIW, my Stock Verizon 4.0.2 GNexus has no problem connecting to my E4200 Router on 5GHz on Channel 161.
Don't know how or why; just does.
I'm not having any problems connecting to 5 gHz frequency on the netgear 3400
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FWIW, my Stock Verizon 4.0.2 GNexus has no problem connecting to my E4200 Router on 5GHz on Channel 161.
Don't know how or why; just does.
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that is wired
mine will only 36 40 44 48 and all >48 are not visible -.-
also whenever multichannel n is active the GN seems to fail to connect, since I can only select the main channel then and not the subchannels
the REGzone is set to EU but that does not seem to fix it at all
I wonder if anyone else besides you can confirm a connection on a channel other than 36 40 44 48
Hi all
Wondering of anyone else is experiencing this. My gn won't connect using wireless n regardless of distance to my router. Connection speed is always below 54mbps. My laptop connects no problem.
Currently using codename Droid and router is billion 7800n. Tried forcing both router and phone to use wireless n.
Try resetting router. Before doing that make sure you have your router set to allow x amount of connections. I had my router set to allow max 3 connections and when I tried connecting my nexus one the other day I had to bump it up to 4 since my N1 was a 4th user.
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tried all of the above. quite frustrating when the GN is supposed to be able to do wireless N.
found this http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22474, gonna see if that helps/goes anywhere
What frequency are you using? What is your beacon interval set to on your wireless access point
hi,
Same issue :
connecting at 68 Mbps max.
2,4 + 5mhz both ...
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What frequency are you using? What is your beacon interval set to on your wireless access point
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This is an important point. I would also add, if you are using both spectrums, are you using the same SSID on them?
Typically if you use both spectrums, you would configure them with differing SSIDs. When given the option, I have seen the GN prefer 2.4GHz spectrum over the 5GHz spectrum.
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i found out the GN do not compatibility with some netgear wireless router...the issue is wifi disconnect after screen lock..i have netgear wireless router model:WNR612V2 and wndr3800..both of them have same issue with my GN..i also have other dlink/tp-link/asus wireless router...and they work fine with my gn....i tried recovery factory setting...also tried flash 4.0.4 and 4.1.1 android version...still same issue... anybody has same issue like me? or found out how to fix it?..TKS for any help...and forgive me poor english...TKS a lot!...
No issues with wndr3700 here.
On your gnex, go to setting gas, WiFi, then press the menu button go to advanced and check the WiFi sleep policy. Make sure it's set always on "keep WiFi on during sleep"
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Have wnr 1000, works perfectly...
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No issues with wndr3700 here.
On your gnex, go to setting gas, WiFi, then press the menu button go to advanced and check the WiFi sleep policy. Make sure it's set always on "keep WiFi on during sleep"
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already set "always on"...never change from got GN...so i don't understand why i got this issue with all my netgear router...my dlink/tp-link works fine...but they all broken...thats why i replace them to netgear...:crying:
One quick thing to look at, that seems to pop up now and then, what's your DHCP lease set to? Setting to '0' (that should be forever) doesn't work as well for some chipsets it appears. If you just have bad luck getting/keeping a lock on your router, try changing the dhcp to something else, 2 weeks ish? Play with it.
Might be something else entirely, but after having seen this 3 times now, it's worth a bash.
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One quick thing to look at, that seems to pop up now and then, what's your DHCP lease set to? Setting to '0' (that should be forever) doesn't work as well for some chipsets it appears. If you just have bad luck getting/keeping a lock on your router, try changing the dhcp to something else, 2 weeks ish? Play with it.
Might be something else entirely, but after having seen this 3 times now, it's worth a bash.
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TKS for replay...seems netgear wndr3800 not allow change the dhcp lease set...there are not option about dhcp lease set...and as my custom...i have set the gn as a static ip...so it may not be effect to the dhcp lease set...both wnr612 v2 or wndr3800...all of them not have option to set dhcp lease...
What type of connection are you using on the wndr3800?
2.4ghz, 5ghz?
And what channel, since you have two routers, make sure they're on different channels and opposite, set one to 1 and the other 11 or 6.
Also what type of security? wep? wpa2?
Try using 2.4ghz, i found the 5ghz isn't very strong/good with gnex.
Also you can try with NO security and see if it works better.
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worse comes to worse, reset your wndr3800 back to default and regular dhcp no static, no custom settings for anything and go no security on wifi or go wep.
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Also, since you have 2 routers, you have them set so that only 1 is doing the dhcp and the other is turned off right? you can't have 2 routers doing dhcp.
nxt said:
What type of connection are you using on the wndr3800?
2.4ghz, 5ghz?
And what channel, since you have two routers, make sure they're on different channels and opposite, set one to 1 and the other 11 or 6.
Also what type of security? wep? wpa2?
Try using 2.4ghz, i found the 5ghz isn't very strong/good with gnex.
Also you can try with NO security and see if it works better.
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worse comes to worse, reset your wndr3800 back to default and regular dhcp no static, no custom settings for anything and go no security on wifi or go wep.
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Also, since you have 2 routers, you have them set so that only 1 is doing the dhcp and the other is turned off right? you can't have 2 routers doing dhcp.
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TKS for you replay...both 2.4g/5g..yes..5ghz isn't very strong/good..and i test every possiable setting...include no secuirty/wep/wpa/wpa2...dynamic ip/static ip...nothing change...
i have 3 netgear router..2xWNR612v2..1xWNDR3800... 3800 is a host router...612 connect to 3800 via wire...because there is low signal in the corner of my house..so i use wds to make it stronge...but 3800 only support no/wep to Encryption...and 612 can use wpa/wpa2..and i set the 612 in channel 1...3800 can support auto select the best channel...i used wifi Analysis software to check the channel...in many time...3800 used different channel...so i think it isn't the reason for this issue..i tried independent test every router..got same issue...:crying:
Always worked fine with my 2.4ghz 802.11g (can't remember model#) Netgear router. Never had issues with other routers too.
icilymoo said:
i found out the GN do not compatibility with some netgear wireless router...the issue is wifi disconnect after screen lock..i have netgear wireless router model:WNR612V2 and wndr3800..both of them have same issue with my GN..i also have other dlink/tp-link/asus wireless router...and they work fine with my gn....i tried recovery factory setting...also tried flash 4.0.4 and 4.1.1 android version...still same issue... anybody has same issue like me? or found out how to fix it?..TKS for any help...and forgive me poor english...TKS a lot!...
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i worked round it by not using DHCP on the phone, change it to manual setting and assign an IP (or keep the current setting) to the device (long press on your connected wifi, then choose modify; for some reason adding new connection only accept DHCP by default). need to do that at the router end as well, edit the lan setting and record the phone MAC address to that IP. someone on another thread mentioned, if my memory serves me right, that GNex can have wifi issue with some routers' DHCP setting, causing it to drop connection when new lease was issued, and this is the reason why i choose not to use DHCP.
TKS,I try it…hope it can work…
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Gnex takju stock + Netgear WNDR3700 (running DD-WRT) WPA2 PSK = Total failure to connect.
It was fine with ICS, but since the OTA it will not work despite trying every setting and factory reset.
it may cause by DD-WRT…i use netgear stock fireware…never try any 3rd fireware…
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I tried your suggestion,unfortunately,issue still…in my friend's coffe shop just now…gn wifi works fine with his tplink wireless router…received any push message/email fast under screen lock…so i still believe the issue cause by netgear router…or the setting with it…
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seem i found out why this issue comes....
the GN can connect to all dlink/tp-link wireless router and never disconnect after screen lock...so i check the advance wirelees setting about three sets include netgear.dlink and tplink...i found the netgear has a few option you can set about advance wireless setting...the other two router have very detail setting about wireless...read the help text...i found the beacon peroid may cause this issue...default value is 100...so i tried to increase the value to 200..oops...the gn disconnect the wifi...and i can't receive any data...just like the email sync,weather sync,and google play push soft install...then i decrease the value to default..the wifi work fine,i can receive any data under the screen lock...then i continue decrease the value to 50/20..nice...no any issue...so i believe is the beacon peroid cause this issue...but the question is the netgear never has a option to let me change the bacon peroid value...so i will connect to the factory...hope they can fix it in the near future...
attachment: what is the beacon peroid
beacons are packets sent by a wireless router to synchronize wireless devices...specify a beacon period value between 20 and 1000 the default value is set to 100 milliseconds...
nxt said:
No issues with wndr3700 here.
On your gnex, go to setting gas, WiFi, then press the menu button go to advanced and check the WiFi sleep policy. Make sure it's set always on "keep WiFi on during sleep"
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i tried any possible setting..but nothing changed...can you post me your wireless setting in wndr3700...just like basic wireless settinng and advance wireless setting? ...TKS...
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i tried any possible setting..but nothing changed...can you post me your wireless setting in wndr3700...just like basic wireless settinng and advance wireless setting? ...TKS...
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My main router is my FiOS router, that does all the DHCP, I have one of the ports plugged into my WNDR3700's port (not WAN port), I use the WNDR3700 for all WIFI devices.
I have DHCP turned off on the WNDR3700
Basic Wireless Settings
Both 2.4GHz b/g/n and 5GHz a/n I have SSID broadcast on, and set to Up to 300Mbps.
2.4GHz set to Channel 03, and 5GHz set to channel 36
I use WPA2-PSK [AES] for both radios.
In Advance Wireless Settings, it's all default.
Both 2.4GHz and 5GHz are the same:
Fragmentation Length: 2346
CTS/RTS Threshold: 2347
Preamable Mode: Automatic
Transmit Power Control: 100%
That's it, I do have MAC Address Filtering too, but that shouldn't matter.
Again, everything else is default.
nxt said:
My main router is my FiOS router, that does all the DHCP, I have one of the ports plugged into my WNDR3700's port (not WAN port), I use the WNDR3700 for all WIFI devices.
I have DHCP turned off on the WNDR3700
Basic Wireless Settings
Both 2.4GHz b/g/n and 5GHz a/n I have SSID broadcast on, and set to Up to 300Mbps.
2.4GHz set to Channel 03, and 5GHz set to channel 36
I use WPA2-PSK [AES] for both radios.
In Advance Wireless Settings, it's all default.
Both 2.4GHz and 5GHz are the same:
Fragmentation Length: 2346
CTS/RTS Threshold: 2347
Preamable Mode: Automatic
Transmit Power Control: 100%
That's it, I do have MAC Address Filtering too, but that shouldn't matter.
Again, everything else is default.
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TKS for your reply...every setting is same to yours...except the internet connect through by WNDR3800...my friend got another GN yesterday...and has the same issue in my house (he used tplink in his house,and work fine)...i used his GN do more test with my wndr3800 and wnr612...same issue...
i'll try do most test again and again...
again...TKS for your help...
I have a Netgear Knighthawk router and the main network is one name that utilizes both 2.4 and 5 and as long as the connecting device supports it, it should connect on that band.
My Nexus 5 and wife's S4 which are right next to my Tab are connected on the 5 band.
Any ideas on how I can force the Tab Pro to connect mm on 5?
Thanks
I can't remember in detail but I had mine connected to 5ghz but switched to 2.4 a while back.
If your tab can't see the network or is having a prob connecting to it, then enable broadcast if its disabled
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Try changing the 5GHz channel your router is using.
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I can't remember in detail but I had mine connected to 5ghz but switched to 2.4 a while back.
If your tab can't see the network or is having a prob connecting to it, then enable broadcast if its disabled
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My network only has one name but it is both 2.4 & 5 so when I connect its only one option.
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Try changing the 5GHz channel your router is using.
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I will try this, I have been messing with the channels for the 2.4 but forgot to do that with 5.
Thanks
If your using both 2.4 and 5 at same time, that might be your problem. Change the name of one of them. Xxxx5. Or something
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If your using both 2.4 and 5 at same time, that might be your problem. Change the name of one of them. Xxxx5. Or something
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I would really like to keep it as one network, I have had it like this since I set it up and have had zero issues. All AC devices connect to 5 and N to 2.4, this is the first time it may be an issue but my wife's S4 connects to 5 with no issues currently.
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I have a Netgear Knighthawk router and the main network is one name that utilizes both 2.4 and 5 and as long as the connecting device supports it, it should connect on that band.
My Nexus 5 and wife's S4 which are right next to my Tab are connected on the 5 band.
Any ideas on how I can force the Tab Pro to connect mm on 5?
Thanks
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It seems your tab pro might be defective and not able to connect to 802.11ac, it can only connect to 802.11n which on your routher is running on 2.4GHz.
I had an issue with wifi one, for some reason it wasn't connecting right after some investigations. I enabled ssid broadcast and it worked again. I'm figuri g it was the rom being glitchy.
So try enabling broadcast if its disabled and see it that works
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It seems your tab pro might be defective and not able to connect to 802.11ac, it can only connect to 802.11n which on your routher is running on 2.4GHz.
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Tested out my Tab by connecting to my guest 5ghz network and tab connected fine. My router let's you combine the main network 2.4 and 5 into one name but guest network must be two separate names for the 2.4 and 5.
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I had an issue with wifi one, for some reason it wasn't connecting right after some investigations. I enabled ssid broadcast and it worked again. I'm figuri g it was the rom being glitchy.
So try enabling broadcast if its disabled and see it that works
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ssid broadcast was already enabled
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Tested out my Tab by connecting to my guest 5ghz network and tab connected fine. My router let's you combine the main network 2.4 and 5 into one name but guest network must be two separate names for the 2.4 and 5.
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Are you sure that your guest network 5Ghz is running with 802.11ac and not A/N mode?
There are some incompatibility with tab pro and some routers.
I'm using tp-link wdr4600, 2.4ghz and 5ghz works fine. A friend, using different router, has the same problem as you, and sometimes the connection drops.
Raistlin1 said:
I have a Netgear Knighthawk router and the main network is one name that utilizes both 2.4 and 5 and as long as the connecting device supports it, it should connect on that band.
My Nexus 5 and wife's S4 which are right next to my Tab are connected on the 5 band.
Any ideas on how I can force the Tab Pro to connect mm on 5?
Thanks
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Have you loaded a ROM other than USA? I'll look for the link, or search for posts by me, but i had a similar problem with an S4, and it turned out to be some countries outside US use different frequencies that keep it from connecting at 5ghz. Just needed to change a couple of settings in some files and all was good, or load a USA ROM.
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I haven't loaded any ROMS, running stock version that came with Tab from my US Best Buy purchase and I also did the OTA update.
I haven't checked if my Tab is running on N or AC when connected to my guest 5ghz network, I will have to check that soon. I will also need to find someone who has an AC network and a different router so I can test it out there, but I have a feeling this may be a little difficult for me to do.
Edit: So I checked my router and the 5GHz guest network is automatically set for a/n/ac and there is no option to change it. When viewing my Tab on the connected devices screen I cannot tell if it's connected as n or ac, how can I find this out? Any way to find this out via the Tab?
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I haven't loaded any ROMS, running stock version that came with Tab from my US Best Buy purchase and I also did the OTA update.
I haven't checked if my Tab is running on N or AC when connected to my guest 5ghz network, I will have to check that soon. I will also need to find someone who has an AC network and a different router so I can test it out there, but I have a feeling this may be a little difficult for me to do.
Edit: So I checked my router and the 5GHz guest network is automatically set for a/n/ac and there is no option to change it. When viewing my Tab on the connected devices screen I cannot tell if it's connected as n or ac, how can I find this out? Any way to find this out via the Tab?
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you can get a app called "network signal info" and install on your tab and other phones. in the app it can tell you what frequency you are connected at.
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you can get a app called "network signal info" and install on your tab and other phones. in the app it can tell you what frequency you are connected at.
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Tried that app out but all I could see on the statistics was that I was connected to the 5.something Ghz band, this was while I was on my guest 5Ghz specific wifi. I did not see anything about being "N" or "AC". Maybe I am not fully understanding this, but I thought AC was always in the 5Ghz band, is that not correct?
My phone cannot see my 5ghz Wi-Fi network. It is connected to the 2.4ghz network ok, and I have other devices connected to the 5ghz network.
I have an Orbi Mesh system, and it only gives me 4 5ghz channels to set, 36, 40, 44 and 46. Could this be the problem? My Note 10 can't see those channels?
Mine runs fine on 5GHz, channel 149. Couple yrs ago my phone wouldn't connect to my wifi, I found out wifi router was not set for auto updates, after I switched to auto, it updated and all was fine. I would suggest you check your router settings and make sure is updated. There are programs on google that check wifi signal and show which channels your phone can see and that would be my second step. Program is called wifi analyzer.
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Mine runs fine on 5GHz, channel 149. Couple yrs ago my phone wouldn't connect to my wifi, I found out wifi router was not set for auto updates, after I switched to auto, it updated and all was fine. I would suggest you check your router settings and make sure is updated. There are programs on google that check wifi signal and show which channels your phone can see and that would be my second step. Program is called wifi analyzer.
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The problem is Orbi only has channels 36, 40, 44 and 48 to selct. You cannot select a higher channel, as Orbi Mesh systems use the higher channels for their wireless backhaul. Wi-Fi analyzer can see the higher channels (153) in use (by the Orbi) but cannot any signal on the lower channels, even though my router is broadcasting on them, and I have laptops connect at 5ghz to the router. It's just my phone that can't see the 5ghz network.
I just noticed you're from Indonesia and there are some restrictions on some channels in certain countries for example look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels.
Sorry doesn't list your country but gives an idea how that works.
Is your phone specific for your country? If not it may have some software restrictions on those channels and could be fixed with different FW or root. If that's not the case, I'm out of ideas.