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How to update apps t-mobile added to G2 rom (bloatware)

how do I update apps like Amazon, photobucket, etc.? I can't update them from the market since I didn't download the from there in the first place.

download it from the market. Just try it. Download it, dispite it not shown in the market as an update. Once installed the phone and your market will see it as an update.
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ddgarcia05 said:
download it from the market. Just try it. Download it, dispite it not shown in the market as an update. Once installed the phone and your market will see it as an update.
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yep
First time I logged into the market, it autoupdated all the junk. Goggles and visual voicemail won't update but that's it.

Yeah, I didn't even find "Visual Voicemail" in the marketplace anymore.
I'm pretty sure that T-Mobile might have pulled it from the market entirely.
Anyway, I can't seem to update Google Goggles either. I've tried several times, but it never seems to actually update and install the latest version.
Would it be safe to use Titanium Backup to remove that system application? Or is that not even possible, considering I've read that people have tried to remove the "bloatware" but it just seems to reappear after a reboot.
Any insights?

Reignzone said:
Yeah, I didn't even find "Visual Voicemail" in the marketplace anymore.
I'm pretty sure that T-Mobile might have pulled it from the market entirely.
Anyway, I can't seem to update Google Goggles either. I've tried several times, but it never seems to actually update and install the latest version.
Would it be safe to use Titanium Backup to remove that system application? Or is that not even possible, considering I've read that people have tried to remove the "bloatware" but it just seems to reappear after a reboot.
Any insights?
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Damn, no more HD2 huh?
Yeah you can remove the bloatware from your device. Well, disable not remove. Read on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231

Ha.
No way, Jose!
I still have my HD2, it's just collecting dust on my computer desk right now.
I thought about using it as a fly swatter, but that seemed too dramatic!
KIDDING!
But yeah, that thing is legendary, so I couldn't just be rid of it.
And thanks for pointing me in the right direction man, good lookin' out!

If you don't want to disable the app which is very easy to do over terminal emulator, try freezing the app with titanium backup. That way you can see how your phone will work with it disabled. For example if you freeze/disable the stock messenger app no messaging app will work after that until you unfreeze/enable the stock one. Same thing with youtube. If you freeze the app and download the newer one off the market it wont work.
Some 3rd party app depend on the stock app to be functional. Let me know if you need help disabling an app. I'll make a video. I <3 my new camera. I traded a gun for it.

I can't seem to update Goggles...
I've disabled the application, then tried to update it from the marketplace, and still nothing manages to install.
I have successfully updated every other system application through the marketplace, with the exception of Goggles.
How can this application be updated properly?

Have you tried to enable it then update?
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ddgarcia05 said:
Have you tried to enable it then update?
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Yeah, of course.
But from what I've been told by a few other users... it's a bug in the ROM that doesn't allow certain handsets to update that application.
I mean, unless you have been able it?

Google wallet for Verizon is possible.

So I've read all the post about Verizon Gnex not being able to get Google wallet. Has anyone tried it recently? It first happened when I was rooted I was able to update Google wallet from the market after side loading the application. So I decided to test it, I unrooted my Gnex and went to factory image 4.0.2 and it seems as if I can now download it from the market. Is this happening for anyone else?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
We've been doing it since November.

Ryands991 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
We've been doing it since November.
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Downloading it directly from the play store? No you haven't.
FWIW, I don't see it in the play store though. Although I have it installed anyway.

adrynalyne said:
Downloading it directly from the play store? No you haven't.
FWIW, I don't see it in the play store though. Although I have it installed anyway.
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you can download it from the play store, but you have to go in a round about way. you have to user the browser to find the app, and keep using the browser until you are going to install it and then you pick google play.
thats how i did it and it installed fine on my vzw GN.

Zepius said:
you can download it from the play store, but you have to go in a round about way. you have to user the browser to find the app, and keep using the browser until you are going to install it and then you pick google play.
thats how i did it and it installed fine on my vzw GN.
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I am under the impression that the OP didn't have to use any workaround, just went directly to it.

adrynalyne said:
I am under the impression that the OP didn't have to use any workaround, just went directly to it.
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yeah if thats the case, its not possible using the play store app only.

Uhm I didn't do the work around I didn't even know about it I just went into the play store searched for Google wallet and download it no work around or anything like that
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Zepius said:
yeah if thats the case, its not possible using the play store app only.
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I used the play store app that's all I used in the screen shot its me I was the market I only pulled down the notification tray to show I was on Verizon
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good to know!

Another back door
Found another back door. I regularly use GoLauncher EX, which has it's own store. Through it I have was able to insall/update the app. Oddly, it directs me to the Play Store directly from the GoLauncher EX update notification where I was able to install.
Upon completion, I changed my launcher back to stock, went into the play store, and had to log in (? strange, right?), and was unable to bring it up in search results, and it did not show in the "installed" column of My Apps. It DID however show as installed, under the all apps section. Not sure if I'll be able to use it, or if my phone will self-destruct upon NFC tap. I'll update when I try it out.

jgab5 said:
Found another back door. I regularly use GoLauncher EX, which has it's own store. Through it I have was able to insall/update the app. Oddly, it directs me to the Play Store directly from the GoLauncher EX update notification where I was able to install.
Upon completion, I changed my launcher back to stock, went into the play store, and had to log in (? strange, right?), and was unable to bring it up in search results, and it did not show in the "installed" column of My Apps. It DID however show as installed, under the all apps section. Not sure if I'll be able to use it, or if my phone will self-destruct upon NFC tap. I'll update when I try it out.
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Anything to update us on!?

Jubmasterflex said:
Anything to update us on!?
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I'm pretty sure Wallet is just available in market now for Gnex. At least, I'm able to just search it and install it now. I've done it multiple times over the past few months.
Edit: just checked, and it's NOT showing up in market now for me... but it IS still installed and working. I used it no more than an hour ago at Jack in the Crack.
Maybe Google tampered with it today.

or if you are just looking for it or rooted and need the one that now works and doesn't give UNSUPPORTED device error. I found one last month on here, can't remember where since there are like 6 different ones floating around. I posted my dropbox link so you can grab a working one.
How to install:
1) Use ADB, adb push it to /system/app
2) Use RootExplorer and paste it to /system/app
Google Wallet .apk
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45330307/Google Wallet/com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel.modaco.apk

[Q] uk 3.6.6 are we stuck without google services

i like many other bought this on sale day under the assumption that i would be able to get google play store and services on.
this however doesnt look the case as we are on 3.6.6
does this look like we are doomed forever without it
any help to myself and others would be most grateful
thanks in advance

goldenbolux said:
i like many other bought this on sale day under the assumption that i would be able to get google play store and services on.
this however doesnt look the case as we are on 3.6.6
does this look like we are doomed forever without it
any help to myself and others would be most grateful
thanks in advance
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Yes, we are stuck. I installed 3.5 AT&T but doesn´t work either. The only thing I could get is Swiftkey

I've been able to successfully install Google play services, account manager and the services framework previously. Managed to get apps such as YouTube, gmail and others to run without crashing. Problem is, I used specific versions and I can't remember which ones they were ? I'm trying to find out what I did right and then I can document it so I won't forget again lol. Bare with me.
Google play store is a no go on 3.6.6 though. Use 1mobile or something instead.
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lu1gj3s said:
I've been able to successfully install Google play services, account manager and the services framework previously. Managed to get apps such as YouTube, gmail and others to run without crashing. Problem is, I used specific versions and I can't remember which ones they were I'm trying to find out what I did right and then I can document it so I won't forget again lol. Bare with me.
Google play store is a no go on 3.6.6 though. Use 1mobile or something instead.
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Ummm... Sounds interesting.
Having Gmail would be awesome. Please let us know which versions are you using, we would appreciate that

Okidoki, sorted. Get them from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365224
Then download the latest Google play services from apkmirror.com and update the one you installed from the above link. Reboot and get YouTube and whatever other stuff you need ?
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lu1gj3s said:
Okidoki, sorted. Get them from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365224
Then download the latest Google play services from apkmirror.com and update the one you installed from the above link. Reboot and get YouTube and whatever other stuff you need
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Thanks, but... It didn't work. I tried that this morning and it didn't allow me to install even 1 of the apks
Thanks anyway

does this require root to the device

thanks for any replies , forgot to add this
thanks

The method that lu1gj3s posted above would require rooting, as that's the same method for all Kindle Fire tablets. As for the Fire Phone I assume it's the guaranteed to way to make it work
Has anyone tried Baidu root or something similar? I think I'll give it a try tomorrow and then go through the method of putting Google Play on again

WalkableBuffalo said:
The method that lu1gj3s posted above would require rooting, as that's the same method for all Kindle Fire tablets. As for the Fire Phone I assume it's the guaranteed to way to make it work
Has anyone tried Baidu root or something similar? I think I'll give it a try tomorrow and then go through the method of putting Google Play on again
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no haven't messed on that much with it yet as I am waiting for a couple of nano sims to arrive for the 2 that I bought. im not that bothered about the play store itself but more about maybe gmail, google chrome and you tube. As I have a nexus 4 now I am pretty used to google being a part of everything i use plus it works well with my chromebook

Easiest way to root is towel root.
For rooting and google services etc. take a look into my guide - follow these steps and your phone should work well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898921

thanks for info
will try and have a good go when house is quiet and no kids about lol

No root needed to make it work. I got it running without root on 3.6.6 except for the play store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2118914&d=1373921344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2118885&d=1373920818
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2118892&d=1373921084
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google.../google-play-services-6-6-03-1681564-070-apk/
Install account manager > services framework > play services > reboot > update play services > install youtube/gmail etc

Must say its disappointing.
The main selling point for me is, its dirt cheap and we can run android apps off it
I will be trying to root this little bad boy, anybody had much luck?

B1ackByte said:
Easiest way to root is towel root.
For rooting and google services etc. take a look into my guide - follow these steps and your phone should work well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898921
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Well as you've had people say that the downgrade to 3.5 from 3.6.6 works I guess I'll give it a try
But no harm in trying Baidu Root first

Can you update to 3.6.8? In that version there's no problem with Google Apps

ya same here 3.6.6 no google play
ya im in Ireland got phone for 99pound need google play badly need to update to 3.6.8

If anyone hasn't yet figured out that play store won't work on any version of 3.6.6 haven't even tried to solve the problem by looking it up.
I've got it all working but every now and then get play services have stopped coming up on my phone (if anyone knows how to get rid of that let us know, thanks). I've used blackmart but most of all I use aptoide for all my apps. What I have noticed as well any apps that confirm purchases with play store load up.
I have to say, the fire phone with Google services and gapps is 1 of the best phones out. I think it's great and while they've hacked the price, I'd hope more devs would invest more time in to roms and other goodies. £99 you'd have to be stupid not to get 1.

jerico9 said:
If anyone hasn't yet figured out that play store won't work on any version of 3.6.6 haven't even tried to solve the problem by looking it up. .
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Well what did you do to get it working on 3.6.6? Instead of saying that people should just look it up...

WalkableBuffalo said:
Well what did you do to get it working on 3.6.6? Instead of saying that people should just look it up...
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+1 here..
"google services framework has stopped"
the process "com.google.process.gapps" has stopped
Have tried numerous guides to get this to work on 3.6.6 and none of them work for me, and yes i've looked it up
If not how about being helpful and providing a link or copy and pasting the guide that works?, GoogleFu isnt working out for me.
All the youtube guides and plagiarised articles i can find all reference the same method that doesn't work out.
Alternatively they recommend moving them to system apps which you cant do unless you're rooted and that would mean a downgrade to 3.5

How to go GApps-less with this ROM?

Long story short, Google's blocked in China and my dad will be commuting back and forth to and fro from there, so he just wants to be able to use OOS but without GApps, like in China. Searched but couldn't really see any OOS-based ROMs that supported going GApps-less. Help?

I think I am missing the problem? If Google is blocked in China that just means he needs to sideboard his apps while he is there or wait till he is home to install. Why would you not install them? It's not like the phone won't work if Google services get blocked. Just use different search engines and/or browser and you should be fine.

xDark_ said:
Long story short, Google's blocked in China and my dad will be commuting back and forth to and fro from there, so he just wants to be able to use OOS but without GApps, like in China. Searched but couldn't really see any OOS-based ROMs that supported going GApps-less. Help?
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Cant you use a vpn in china to use google?
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bonham1988 said:
Cant you use a vpn in china to use google?
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Don't want to pay for one and it's annoying , plus he doesn't use Google Services a lot so what's the point of keeping the bloat
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Sowdiyeah said:
I think I am missing the problem? If Google is blocked in China that just means he needs to sideboard his apps while he is there or wait till he is home to install. Why would you not install them? It's not like the phone won't work if Google services get blocked. Just use different search engines and/or browser and you should be fine.
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He's travelling back and forth a lot. And sideload apps do work, but **** like backup and the stuff that happen in the background won't work. Plus he just doesn't want the bloat or battery drain of GApps
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xDark_ said:
Don't want to pay for one and it's annoying , plus he doesn't use Google Services a lot so what's the point of keeping the bloat
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If you're rooted you can uninstall them and if not just disable them from apps settings.
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bonham1988 said:
If you're rooted you can uninstall them and if not just disable them from apps settings.
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Doesn't help with the background stuff. I've tried disabling it on his Note 3, and it resulted in a loop of "com.process.google.gapps has crashed" and I want to avoid that. And I might as well just go without if I'm going to disable it.

How about flashing the Chinese ROM (Hydrogen OS)? Surely that one won't contain any of the Google services/apps. I'm based in China and have gone google-less for quite some time (even in Europe actually, those services are a huge drain and alternatives are available). There's 2 ways to get apps on the phone without using Google's Play store, 1) install Xiaomi/Huawei/... app store or 2) use Raccoon (search on XDA) to download apps from GPS on your PC and then side-load them on the phone. An even better solution is to install Raccoon on a server, have a script download the latest versions once a week, have a script erase the older versions and share the apk's through Nextcloud/OwnCloud/... with your phone (grats you've got your own app store )

Question Any way around the "App not optimized for this device"?

A couple apps that I use frequently, namely Walmart and Starbucks, will not allow install because "This app is not optimized for this device"... Is there a safe way around this?

I don't know about Starbucks but, Walmart app installed from backup from Galaxy S10 and is working just fine. Auto rotate and everything.

If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.

The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.

emtownsend said:
The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.
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Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.

blackhawk said:
Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.
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I was trying to avoid it...

I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen

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I was trying to avoid it...
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Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it

blackhawk said:
Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it
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I miss the days of rooted Titanium Backup... LOL

Somebody on reddit confirmed to me just now it worked for them with a different app
mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized

Sonin66 said:
Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized
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hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?

mitchh said:
hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?
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Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me

Sonin66 said:
Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me
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yeah I just checked and it says that app isn't compatible with any of my devices if I go to it on my pc. rip

Just get the apk and install that.

chieco said:
Just get the apk and install that.
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How do we get the apk file

blackhawk said:
If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.
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Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.

TFDM said:
Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.
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Simple, they are needless security risks and trashware with active internet access.
If you can't sort this out then enjoy the ride.

Sonin66 said:
How do we get the apk file
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Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.

chieco said:
Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.
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So while I was able to find and download the apk file, it still won't install.