Former I605 note 2 user that was too comfortable with Odin & TWRP try to flash back from mistakenly taken CM12 lollipop update & somehow deleted the most important file in the EFS folder erasing my IMEI & everything else needed to connect to towers. Repair attempts eventually hard bricked whole phone & being way too comfortable with how uneventful CM updates had been going for years, I did not have any backups.
Had a new Verizon m7 note in storage as a backup phone & now it is my main phone since all used i605's I can find have 4.3 or newer OTA which hard locks bootloader.
Besides the screen PPI & front facing speakers, I dislike everything else about the phone compared to my note, especially SenseUI.
I am very confused about how you do things with this HTC thing, reading all kinds of posts contradicting & muddying what should be simple so I just want to know the least complicated way to get unlocked bootloader/soff & have the latest CM11 build while still being able to come back to rumrunner-compatible stock if needed.
I am on STOCK 1.10.605.8 software.
Am I correct in thinking I can use rumrunner to SOFF
flash latest 5.28.605.2 firmware
Flash the latest rooted decrypted 4.4.3 RUU
flash latest TWRP recovery
Flash latest CM11 build/custom kernel/Gapps/etc.
somewhat enjoy my tiny screen a bit more knowing I have done everything possible to improve performance while being fully able to do whatever I need without requiring Sunshine
Couple concerns of mine is that people are saying HBoot 1.57 is not reversible & if I flash the latest firmware, it would put me on that bootloader which is not good right?
Do I have to boot after each flash or can I do them in 1 session?
Also, on the CM page about installing CM to this particular phone, it says: "If you are unsure which firmware you are coming from, you can start with v3.11.605.1; it is a complete firmware package. The firmware included with v4.10.605.3 and v5.28.605.2 are incremental updates; they should be applied in succession after v3.11.605.1."
So I can't just flash from my version straight to newest even though the file sizes for all 3 latest firmwares they listed are comparable to a full size package?
Am I gaining anything from having the latest 'base' software to flash ROMs onto (4.4.3 RUU vs my current 4.2.2?)
Would having the latest rumrunner capable software (1.10.605.15) be preferred as a base for CM11 for reversion capability?
Can I have the latest firmware (5.28.605.2) running on 1.10.605.15 software running 4.4.4 CM11 ROM or must firmware match base software?
Is flashing a unencrypted rooted RUU the same as flashing the deodexed rooted Rom of the same thing besides the nifty .exe windows autoinstaller?
If I do all this, would I be able to get back to where I am at now if needed?
Is a full TWRP backup sufficient insurance?
Compression of backup any issue?
If all this is posted somewhere I have not found, please let me know.
helicopter201 said:
Am I correct in thinking I can use rumrunner to SOFF
flash latest 5.28.605.2 firmware
Flash the latest rooted decrypted 4.4.3 RUU
flash latest TWRP recovery
Flash latest CM11 build/custom kernel/Gapps/etc.
somewhat enjoy my tiny screen a bit more knowing I have done everything possible to improve performance while being fully able to do whatever I need without requiring Sunshine
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Yes, your version can be unlocked and s-off with rumrunner
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Couple concerns of mine is that people are saying HBoot 1.57 is not reversible & if I flash the latest firmware, it would put me on that bootloader which is not good right?
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Once unlocked and s-off, you will always be that way unless you run the specific commands to s-on or relock.
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Do I have to boot after each flash or can I do them in 1 session?
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What? You can flash multiple zips at once in twrp if that is the question
helicopter201 said:
Also, on the CM page about installing CM to this particular phone, it says: "If you are unsure which firmware you are coming from, you can start with v3.11.605.1; it is a complete firmware package. The firmware included with v4.10.605.3 and v5.28.605.2 are incremental updates; they should be applied in succession after v3.11.605.1."
So I can't just flash from my version straight to newest even though the file sizes for all 3 latest firmwares they listed are comparable to a full size package?
Am I gaining anything from having the latest 'base' software to flash ROMs onto (4.4.3 RUU vs my current 4.2.2?)
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After you s-off just run the 4.4.3 ruu. You will be fine. You always want the latest firmware as it has updated radios and other things needed for the Rom you are flashing.
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Would having the latest rumrunner capable software (1.10.605.15) be preferred as a base for CM11 for reversion capability?
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No, update to the suggested firmware which is the latest.
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Can I have the latest firmware (5.28.605.2) running on 1.10.605.15 software running 4.4.4 CM11 ROM or must firmware match base software?
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What? Our "software" versions are for sense roms. Once you put AOSP on your phone you would only go by firmware.
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Is flashing a unencrypted rooted RUU the same as flashing the deodexed rooted Rom of the same thing besides the nifty .exe windows autoinstaller?
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No, an RUU is a Rom Update Utility. It is official HTC firmware and software packaged into a zip or exe. Unsigned is one made by our lovely members whilst signed is from HTC. It will flash the needed firmware and Sense software to make your phone be like out of box Condition while still keeping s-off and unlock.
helicopter201 said:
If I do all this, would I be able to get back to where I am at now if needed?
Is a full TWRP backup sufficient insurance?
Compression of backup any issue?
If all this is posted somewhere I have not found, please let me know.
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You could find a 1.10.605.8 ruu somewhere in the vzw one forums. You could flash that and run the command to lock the bootloader and s-on if you wanted to downgrade and go back to where you are now.
Full tarp back up is usually a good insurance. I suggest learning how to ruu and try it out a few times as sometimes the phone can be so borked up that a twrp restore will not fix firmware issues.
I have never done compression as it doesn't work well with TiBu.
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Side note: unless you are selling or sending to HTC (which won't matter about firmware, as they "do you a favor" and update for you) you would have no reason to lock or go s-on.
Unlock and s status is different than Samsung world. Unlock lets you flash things like recoveries and roms, doing so would put the "tampered flag up if you are not s-off. This is something us vzw model owners need not worry about as our only unlock method involves s-off. Turning the secure flag to off let's you flash anything to any partition as the secure flag is off. You can downgrade when s-off.
Before you completely knock sense ui, I suggest trying done of the heavily modified roms out there like Viper or santod's nusense. Viper Rom has AOSP theming options but you still have the rock solid stability of the Rom being stock based.
I suggest flashing the below sound mod on whichever Rom you choose as it does increase the already great sound quality.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
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If you run into common problems with flashing or have odd issues, the below thread has most common problems with this phone answered.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2875695
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Hey there,
I've got my first HTC device some days ago (-> HTC 10), but coming from a Nexus 5 where things are handled differently, I'm currently quite confused on how all of this works with my HTC 10.
I'd like to apologize in advance if the following questions seem to be stupid or unnecessary, but I'd like to use my device to the fullest and therefore I need your help.
My device is not branded (as far as I can tell) and I've already unlocked it via the steps on htcdev.com + I've installed TWRP + SuperSU (thanks to my previous knowledge with my N5 this was somewhat easy).
Now I got my first OTA update and this is when things got complicated. Several questions popped up and I tried to answer them myself while looking over here, but after reading all those threads I'm even more confused than before :/
My questions are the following:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4)
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them?
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty?
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data?
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though?
I'm completely fine with losing my current data if that means that I can set it up my device in such a way that I can avoid any further data wipes when flasing/updating.
I'd be absolutely grateful if someone would answer those questions and help me to understand all of this.
Greetings,
makit_
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
not an expert but here's my thoughts...
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data? Yes. see also #1
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though? I think you meant sim unlocking here?? Generally, "unlocking" mostly mentioned in xda refers to bootloader
Tarima said:
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
side_flip15 said:
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
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As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
side_flip15 said:
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
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I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
side_flip15 said:
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
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As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
side_flip15 said:
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
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Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
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its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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Data partition can be backed up actually and can be restored.
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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Agree. there is no sense in reverting back to s-on unless if it's for warranty purposes.
Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing
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Take a look at this link. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
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Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
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Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
side_flip15 said:
its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
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I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
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I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
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Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
1. First step is to unlock bootloader:
a) If bootloader unlock is turned off on your phone, you need to turn it on first:
- Boot to Android OS and perform initial setup if necessary
- Go to Menu -> Developer settings and tick "Enable OEM unlock"
Run XTC 2 Tool and open "Bootloader unlock" tab, follow instructions to unlock your bootloader.
2. Reboot to download mode, open "HTC 10" tab and install twrp recovery, you can get it here:
[...]
or
[...]
3. Boot to Bootloader, and press "Reboot to recovery".
4. In "HTC 10" tab press "Do S-OFF button".
5. Wait for the process to finish. Done.
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
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Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Take a look at [... ]this link[/URL]. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
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Thanks, will look into it.
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Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification, I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
Is this correct or are there any mistakes?
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
Greetings,
makit_
makit_ said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
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This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
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may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
yankee1390 said:
may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
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Will also look into this. I've used Xposed on my N5 but wasn't sure the HTC 10 is already fully supported (have read something about that, but those threads were already 3-4 months old). Thanks!
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
makit_ said:
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
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Link didn't work on my app so can't confirm if that will work. However any TWRP stock backup that matches your current version should work. RUUs will wipe your data if you use them.
Definitely good idea to backup after each ota before modifying system partition to make next ota easier. Though usually someone on here can provide a backup if you don't get one.
I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
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i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
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Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification
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If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
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This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
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You are welcome.
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I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
side_flip15 said:
i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
You are welcome.
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Thanks for all your help. I will look into it when I need it. For now I'll stick with stock (see below)
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I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
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I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
Piggybacking on this thread because my new-to-me HTC 10 is coming in the mail and I'm planning what to do with it. It is already bootloader unlocked and s-off. I would like to use Leedroid, ElementalX, Magisk, and Xposed.
I've never had an HTC device so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. So I think this is what I need to do:
1) Flash TWRP via ADB
2) Flash SuperSU in TWRP
3) Flash everything else...Leedroid, ElementX, Xposed, Magisk. In that order? Can I flash them all at once (just keep adding zips to the TWRP list) or do I have to boot between each one?
Xposed is more important to me than a custom ROM, because I need to use Amplify and PowerNap to improve my battery life. Would it be better just to stay on stock instead of Leedroid?
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
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When I said stock ROM, i meant stock HTC ROM and it's not stock Android. It's a skinned android called HTC sense. . If you want a stock android to run in your HTC 10 you can flash a AOSP based custom ROM.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
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Ah yeah, sorry, fastboot is what I meant. Thank you! I haven't had an unlocked bootloader in quite a while (was using TWRP and Sony stock-based ROMs on a locked Z3c), so it will be interesting to flash kernels and such again.
d_Schizzo said:
Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
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not only bootloader, it contains everything. radio.img and any other thing. "low-lewel-stuff", kernel etc, recovery (if stock signed firmware, which is not modded/removed). there are many important things inside.
but firmware is meant for every device the same. it contains everything so that this device can run/work properly.
Hi everyone, I have a bit of experience with flashing roms to android phones from the past and I'm coming from an LG G3 that has Lineage OS installed on it.
What I'm looking to do is to get Lineage installed on my HTC 10, I picked it up the other day and it came shipped with Android 7.0 Nougat installed. I haven't got a clue what to do first just in case anything goes wrong.
So my questions are:
How do I unlock the bootloader and is there anything I need to do first? (What is S-Off?)
Can I flash TWRP without rooting the device to just nandroid backup?
How do I go from Stock rom to LineageOS via flashing? Is it just as simple as wiping system etc and flashing in twrp?
I'd urge you to read a lot more before jumping into this because your questions suggest you're really not aware of what you're doing. It helps to comprehend what each of these terms and actions means before you pull the trigger.
Check the 'development' section for how to unlock
S-Off enables you to update firmware separate from ROMs
No, you need to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash TWRP
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP then yes, flashing a ROM is as easy, but referring to S-Off, you'll need to be sure that your firmware is compatible with the ROM of your choice; if not, you'll have to flash that separately.
Really. Read up. Check these guides first.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
BillTheCat said:
I'd urge you to read a lot more before jumping into this because your questions suggest you're really not aware of what you're doing. It helps to comprehend what each of these terms and actions means before you pull the trigger.
Check the 'development' section for how to unlock
S-Off enables you to update firmware separate from ROMs
No, you need to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash TWRP
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP then yes, flashing a ROM is as easy, but referring to S-Off, you'll need to be sure that your firmware is compatible with the ROM of your choice; if not, you'll have to flash that separately.
Really. Read up. Check these guides first.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
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I know my fair share of android modifications and have done so in the past. It's just this is the most ive ever spent on a phone and I dont want to mess it up firstly. I've even compiled roms of my own in the past as you can see from my signature.
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I know my fair share of android modifications and have done so in the past. It's just this is the most ive ever spent on a phone and I dont want to mess it up firstly. I've even compiled roms of my own in the past as you can see from my signature.
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Then you have nothing to worry about... flash away!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
BillTheCat said:
Then you have nothing to worry about... flash away!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
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So, it's oem unlock, twrp, backup, and flash away? Reading up on S-off, it only seems useful for those that are doing really specific modding. I just want the ability to either root or flash custom roms so the bootloader unlock should do me fine right?
johnnzey said:
So, it's oem unlock, twrp, backup, and flash away? Reading up on S-off, it only seems useful for those that are doing really specific modding. I just want the ability to either root or flash custom roms so the bootloader unlock should do me fine right?
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Backup your files (pictures, music etc) first, bootloader unlocking wipes your device
johnnzey said:
So, it's oem unlock, twrp, backup, and flash away? Reading up on S-off, it only seems useful for those that are doing really specific modding. I just want the ability to either root or flash custom roms so the bootloader unlock should do me fine right?
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Yes, but if you want to flash a custom ROM not supported by your current firmware version, S-off will be necessary.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
How do I know if a rom doesn't support my firmware version? Is that like flashing a CDMA ROM to a GSM phone (that level of difference) ?
Or is it like converting carrier firmware to stock HTC firmware?
johnnzey said:
How do I know if a rom doesn't support my firmware version? Is that like flashing a CDMA ROM to a GSM phone (that level of difference) ?
Or is it like converting carrier firmware to stock HTC firmware?
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Just check in the thread for the rom you want, installation requirements are usually listed there.
Hi there, im on custom rom (RR). My question is how can i update my phone via OTA, after that i will gonna root it again.? Just want to update my phone to latest security patch and after updating i will root it again. Can anyone help me? And sorry for noobish query. Thanks for help
Kap_Tutan said:
Hi there, im on custom rom (RR). My question is how can i update my phone via OTA, after that i will gonna root it again.? Just want to update my phone to latest security patch and after updating i will root it again. Can anyone help me? And sorry for noobish query. Thanks for help
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You will have to reinstall to complete Stock (see link below). You can not OTA from a customer rom.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETEU/
Jimi Mack said:
You will have to reinstall to complete Stock (see link below). You can not OTA from a customer rom.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETEU/
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If you already did update to Nougat via OTA, flashing that Marshmallow stock image can/will brick your device.
There is a generic RETAIL Nougat Stock image for the April Security Updates flying around somewhere. But generally you should install the stock version you originally had on your device, and then update from there.
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If you already did update to Nougat via OTA, flashing that Marshmallow stock image can/will brick your device.
There is a generic RETAIL Nougat Stock image for the April Security Updates flying around somewhere. But generally you should install the stock version you originally had on your device, and then update from there.
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I downloaded the nougat april security patch of RETAIL. What do you mean by this "But generally you should install the stock version you originally had on your device, and then update from there"!
And is the retail april is working with my reteu dual sim? Do i still able to receive ota uodate when i flash the april patch?
Kap_Tutan said:
I downloaded the nougat april security patch of RETAIL. What do you mean by this "But generally you should install the stock version you originally had on your device, and then update from there"!
And is the retail april is working with my reteu dual sim? Do i still able to receive ota uodate when i flash the april patch?
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I have no idea in what channel a phone will end up with the generic RETAIL images. I just did a dump of every single partition on my phone before I installed custom stuff, so I can always get back to how it was originally, and OTA from there.
BtbN said:
If you already did update to Nougat via OTA, flashing that Marshmallow stock image can/will brick your device.
There is a generic RETAIL Nougat Stock image for the April Security Updates flying around somewhere. But generally you should install the stock version you originally had on your device, and then update from there.
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Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
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Kap_Tutan said:
Hi there, im on custom rom (RR). My question is how can i update my phone via OTA, after that i will gonna root it again.? Just want to update my phone to latest security patch and after updating i will root it again. Can anyone help me? And sorry for noobish query. Thanks for help
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Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
I can not say it enough... I really wish people would first learn how to correct their phones before they make the changes.
It really is simple, would you learn how to properly parachute before or after you jump from the plane?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...grade-t3558118
Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
I can not say it enough... I really wish people would first learn how to correct their phones before they make the changes.
It really is simple, would you learn how to properly parachute before or after you jump from the plane?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...grade-t3558118[/QUOTE]
Actually this is my first non-samsung phone. That's why totally noob in recovering my phone and revert back to stock. Please sorry for such a noob
Kap_Tutan said:
Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
I can not say it enough... I really wish people would first learn how to correct their phones before they make the changes.
It really is simple, would you learn how to properly parachute before or after you jump from the plane?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...grade-t3558118
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Actually this is my first non-samsung phone. That's why totally noob in recovering my phone and revert back to stock. Please sorry for such a noob[/QUOTE]
No problem... any time you change a phone I always suggest to really look at the Guides and Discussion section and get to know the phone well before jumping in and hacking it.. Plus Moto did not make this one as simple to flash and recover as some of their others.
Good Luck.
Jimi Mack said:
Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
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Below is a link on how to properly downgrade and then be able to take OTA.
I can not say it enough... I really wish people would first learn how to correct their phones before they make the changes.
It really is simple, would you learn how to properly parachute before or after you jump from the plane?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...grade-t3558118
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FYI link is broken.
ViperX85 said:
FYI link is broken.
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Sorry, try this one...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/autoscript-install-firmware-downgrade-t3558118
Jimi Mack said:
You will have to reinstall to complete Stock (see link below). You can not OTA from a customer rom.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETEU/
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Is this image signed?
Srandista said:
Is this image signed?
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As far as I Moto has not released any signed firmware for the Addison.
Just flash this with RSD lite and you`ll have 7.1.1 with aug patch )
St.Noigel said:
Just flash this with RSD lite and you`ll have 7.1.1 with aug patch )
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Flashing that on my reteu device resulted in a bootloop with the phone playing the "Hello Moto" sound over and over again.
I could flash LineageOS over it and it worked fine, but it did not give me a working stock OS.
BtbN said:
Flashing that on my reteu device resulted in a bootloop with the phone playing the "Hello Moto" sound over and over again.
I could flash LineageOS over it and it worked fine, but it did not give me a working stock OS.
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You can try to do next:
1. Wipe everything (incl internal storage with TWRP)
2. Format (not wipe) data with TWRP
3. Go to fastboot and flash stock ROM with RSD lite
P.S. If you still have bootloop - just flash TWRP and SuperSU with it. But if you`ll do everything, what i wrote - You`ll have fully worked device.
Good luck )
St.Noigel said:
You can try to do next:
1. Wipe everything (incl internal storage with TWRP)
2. Format (not wipe) data with TWRP
3. Go to fastboot and flash stock ROM with RSD lite
P.S. If you still have bootloop - just flash TWRP and SuperSU with it. But if you`ll do everything, what i wrote - You`ll have fully worked device.
Good luck )
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Step 3 is what I did originally, including erasing userdata. With that exact stock ROM.
I only wanted to update the bootloader and radio firmware, so I don't overly care it does not boot by itself, as I'm using LaOS.
Just as a note for anyone trying to use that image.
Lineage runs the 7.x Nougat base. My phone is still on on Marshmallow, running version 6.0.1. I've not updated or done anything to my software in a year and a half, and am still running Leedroid V2.7.1-Stable. What all do I need to do to my phone to update the software and radios?
Juan12345 said:
Lineage runs the 7.x Nougat base. My phone is still on on Marshmallow, running version 6.0.1. I've not updated or done anything to my software in a year and a half, and am still running Leedroid V2.7.1-Stable. What all do I need to do to my phone to update the software and radios?
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Flash this no-wipe firmware
Put it into your fastboot folder, boot to download mode, and:
fastboot flash zip **drag and drop the firmware.zip here**
You'll get an remote 90 hboot update "flush again immediately" error (or something similar). Just re-enter the same commands a second time, then reboot.
Thanks! I did not use the Sunshine app to gain s-off. At one point I thought going to the new base would result in me losing s-off and possibly root. Is that no longer the case?
Juan12345 said:
Thanks! I did not use the Sunshine app to gain s-off. At one point I thought going to the new base would result in me losing s-off and possibly root. Is that no longer the case?
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You'd lose root if you used an RUU, but with the no-wipe firmware you won't lose anything
Thanks for the quick response! My phone is presently encrypted. Will the encryption interfere with the no-wipe firmware? I don't mind losing encryption, but I want to make sure I won't brick my phone.
Juan12345 said:
Thanks for the quick response! My phone is presently encrypted. Will the encryption interfere with the no-wipe firmware? I don't mind losing encryption, but I want to make sure I won't brick my phone.
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No, it won't interfere with it.