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Hi guys I got my Rogers Galaxy S3 2 days ago (i747M). For the most part it is buttery smooth. But I notice that sometimes touchwiz has some micro stutters when moving between home screens. I also notice that while switching between home screens, before entering the home screen that has the Gmail widget, theres a quick minor stutter. Can anyone replicate this?
The way I did it was, first use the internet browser for a bit then go back to the home screen. After start moving between home screens and see if you have and stuttering before entering the home screen with the Gmail widget.
Is this a problem with the widget?
Extra information: I am on stock, un-rooted.
This is normal. I also experienced this with stock ROMs. Something that will help mitigate this issue is if you flash a custom ROM that has the scrolling cache disabled (such as Kyan ROM. There are others, but I know this one off the top of my head because I have personally used it). Though they do not go away fully even with the new ROM, the fluidity of the interface if greatly increased.
The only way that I know of to make this go totally away is to flash AOKP or CM10 as they have implemented project butter with great success.
caveman999 said:
This is normal. I also experienced this with stock ROMs. Something that will help mitigate this issue is if you flash a custom ROM that has the scrolling cache disabled (such as Kyan ROM. There are others, but I know this one off the top of my head because I have personally used it). Though they do not go away fully even with the new ROM, the fluidity of the interface if greatly increased.
The only way that I know of to make this go totally away is to flash AOKP or CM10 as they have implemented project butter with great success.
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This may be a bit off topic but, I know nightlies for CM10 are out.. But do you think we will get the stable version of it? I notice for CM9 we didn't get the stable version.. That kinda worries me a bit because I like cyanogenmod and the progress they made with CM10.
big_doubleT said:
This may be a bit off topic but, I know nightlies for CM10 are out.. But do you think we will get the stable version of it? I notice for CM9 we didn't get the stable version.. That kinda worries me a bit because I like cyanogenmod and the progress they made with CM10.
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I wouldn't worry about it. We haven't gotten a stable version of CM9 yet because the Galaxy S3 came out after CM was well into its development cycle. Also, with the release of Jellybean source code, there isn't a huge incentive for the CM team to continue working on getting a "stable" build released (stable is in quotes because a lot of their nightlies are actually pretty stable). I have been running task and ktoonsez's AOKP for a while now and I have to say that their 8/20 version is quite superb. It offers much more customization that CM10 currently has and I would highly recommend it.
Yes I have this issue as well, I also am flashed on KyanRom, there isn't as much stutters, but they still happen here and there, even when I close an application, sometimes my widgets on the page it goes to look as though they've disappeared, but come back. I also experienced this while being unrooted. So far, don't know anything that can fix the issue to the fullest. I think lowering down on the amount of widgets on the home screen can help. But who doesn't love widgets?
Papaniz said:
Yes I have this issue as well, I also am flashed on KyanRom, there isn't as much stutters, but they still happen here and there, even when I close an application, sometimes my widgets on the page it goes to look as though they've disappeared, but come back. I also experienced this while being unrooted. So far, don't know anything that can fix the issue to the fullest. I think lowering down on the amount of widgets on the home screen can help. But who doesn't love widgets?
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Guess will have to wait till Jelly bean comes out. I'm sure project butter will get rid of 99% of lag and stuttering.
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth
Kustaa said:
As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.
decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that
Just installed the first version of stock found meaning 4.0.1 ITL41D. The colors and refresh rate is weird but the speed, man the speed.... This was why I bought Galaxy Nexus in the first place. The pictures are taken instantly...anyone else tested this?
I am curios to see how will it behave in a few days and will report back. Seems like 4.3 was making it run really slow....
My only complain is that I don't know how to get rid of the OTA sytem update.
natzy85 said:
Just installed the first version of stock found meaning 4.0.1 ITL41D. The colors and refresh rate is weird but the speed, man the speed.... This was why I bought Galaxy Nexus in the first place. The pictures are taken instantly...anyone else tested this?
I am curios to see how will it behave in a few days and will report back. Seems like 4.3 was making it run really slow....
My only complain is that I don't know how to get rid of the OTA sytem update.
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i'm on sprint, always found 4.1.2 to be the best one for lte/wifi and battery life...but that OTA drives me nuts! i've tried all the tricks of deleting/moving files around to stop it, but it never seems to go away.
any luck hopefully pass it on this thread
isn't there just a system app with OTA in its name that you can delete, or rename to .bak?
I've considered going WAY BACK as well in versions, I mean this device WAS RELEASED to basically "showcase" ICS, so it makes sense ICS runs great on it. I think I would prefer going back to eclipse build 6 from its 4.1.2 based days, man it had the PERFECT amount of features and was flawless when it comes to bugs, its speed was phenomenal as well. (I believe it was eclipse v2 maybe v3, build 6.) I'm just itching for a nexus 6 though too, to taste that lollipop and be on some new hardware finally. I've put my GNEX thru the wringer, and its showing in how it behaves LOL
Still love using PA ROM 4.1.2 since Nov 2012.
http://d-h.st/users/gangsterjoop?fld_id=9654
Gapps
http://d-h.st/la8
4.2 clock/camera/keyboard/gallery
http://d-h.st/Zja
Kernel
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu9brbuovdhe22h/v3.0.53-ZenSERIES_v10_4.1_Final_Tuna.zip
Other great must have apps:
Material 123 keyboard
Nova launcher prime
Pie Controls
PGM2 aka touchcontrol
Lagfix premium
Easyeyez
Trickstermod
Greenify
Media server killer
Flashplayer 10.3
Adaway
Exposed extensions adds many features eg.Gravitybox, YouTube Adaway, Smooth Scroll Bar, KitKat Toast.
..
you know i've never given PA a try, always been CM or eclipse or omni. might give this one a go.
thanks
My gnex did a self wipe a few months ago. It worried me so I finally bough a one plus one.
Within a few weeks my screen starting acting up so much I had to request an RMA. Took the pics of the OPO with my gnex. Screen responsiveness is better on the nexus....feedback is better.... I really miss it Blackbean 4.1.2 with AK kernel of some kind. Great combo
I've had my galaxy nexus for a while and i've put up with the slow response and lag up until now. Most of my apps take forever to use and other just don't even work anymore because there's too much lag. If i even have more than 1 or 2 apps opened, my phone (for whatever reason) just can't handle it, heats up like crazy, and just drains so much battery that I have to take out my battery and wait for a few minutes just so to let it cool down and reset it.
I've tried a few of the better options which is to root my device, get slimkat android 4.4.4 (which kind of worked), and get lagfix premium along with greenify. But after all of that and trying a few other options, my phone is still as slow and laggy as ever. what else is there that i can do? If I need to provide any other information on my phone, let me know and I will reply.
So just to clarify, when use installed your roms you did a full clean wipe, yes?
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oh wow u are facing the exact same problems as me though im on aokp rom. it got so bad till i decided to come here to look for an alternative solution too! was hoping to find a new lightweight rom to see if it solves the problem since aokp is like long dead.
so you already tried the slimrom, that's normally my solution to phones being slow I personally use ziyan's cm 12.1 beta builds and for me they are really fast and pretty reliable, they've for just a few minor issues I don't mind, maybe that's something for you to consider
Hey guys and gals, so I got myself a tab pro 10.1 a little while ago, I flashed the latest lineage from their website, its pretty dam unstable and even slow, soft reboots all the time and performance can go from fine to ass in seconds out of nowhere,
I've seen quite a few ROMs around but truth be told I couldn't be bothered to keep wiping my tablet and trying them all, I am just after the most stable ROM with the best performance (more stability than performance) what can you suggest? Or is lineage the best there is? Happy to go to a lower version like 6.0 or 5.0 if needed for more stability
Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks guys !!
I have gone through many MANY ROMs on this device.
I have used for the past year or so this ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...t/7-1-xsm-t520-liquiddeathos-n2awifi-t3577449
Development is stopped, but everything (that I used) works just fine, and it is so smooth...
Plus I love the pull up app drawer (like on pixel phones), Google Assistant is built in on long home button press etc...
One thing that doesn't work: The physical home button! Instead you have to use the power button on top. Took a bit of time to get used to it, but it is all about compromises, and this really doesn't bother me considering all the goodness in this ROM...
Thanks Mrbungle!! That ROM is fantastic! Its like a whole new tablet, its so stable and hot dam is the performance better!
Also I want to clarify to anyone else that may see this thread, the home button does work fine, it just doesn't wake the tablet from sleep, need to use the lock button, no biggie really
I use Lineage 14.1, but on a build back in June. That has been stable for me. The only issue is camera doesn't always load, and often records low volume, but I never use the camera on the tablet since I have a phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74559497&postcount=678