Is it time to change the battery on this thing? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I absolutely love and adore this tablet. I actually bought it refurbished a couple years ago and it still operates smoothly.
However, I notice that the battery drain is getting a little bad. When I fully charge it and look at the battery stats it usually tells me I have anywhere from 3 hours to 6 hours of battery use.
I'm a heavy tablet user so maybe I have been using the battery a lot.
I notice that there are battery replacement kits online. I'm really freaked out about the idea of changing the battery on this because I don't think it will be as easy as changing the Nexus 7 2010.
Can anyone provide me a bit of feedback on this? Should I be considering changing the battery at this stage? Should I even attempt it? I'm really afraid of ruining my tablet.

ev1lchris said:
I absolutely love and adore this tablet. I actually bought it refurbished a couple years ago and it still operates smoothly.
However, I notice that the battery drain is getting a little bad. When I fully charge it and look at the battery stats it usually tells me I have anywhere from 3 hours to 6 hours of battery use.
I'm a heavy tablet user so maybe I have been using the battery a lot.
I notice that there are battery replacement kits online. I'm really freaked out about the idea of changing the battery on this because I don't think it will be as easy as changing the Nexus 7 2010.
Can anyone provide me a bit of feedback on this? Should I be considering changing the battery at this stage? Should I even attempt it? I'm really afraid of ruining my tablet.
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I don't think, that this is an indicator for getting a new battery for your tablet. Since Marshmallow the battery statistics on my flo show me exactly the same for the first few hours after fully charged. Let it run about some hours and us it normally - and you will see later a new calculation for about 3-4 days...
So it looks here since using Marshmallow.

Okay, I'll hold off on the battery for a bit.
Does updating apps put a damper on the battery as well?
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ev1lchris said:
...Does updating apps put a damper on the battery as well?
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Yes! - all read/write processes on emmc are eating our battery...

It seems to be eating it up quite a bit though.
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Try this, always charge it powered off. My battery stats have been completely off since mm but by chance I discovered that I get my normal 8-9h SOT if I turn it off before charging and power it on after disconnecting the charger. I've had mine since late 2013 and still see fantastic battery life.

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Is this normal battery life for the first day of having the nexus?

I just got my nexus today and was wondering if this was good battery life for the first days use and when it will start getting better?
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Just about. I usually get 7hrs.
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Thats a drastic drop! Id say about normal as well. Did you have a lot of apps that were re downloading from the time you first activated it. After a few days to a week when your done looking at your phone every 5 secs you'll start to see battery improvement haha.
Tonight will be my 3rd time charging it. WIll it get a lot better tomorrow?
ProTip: Put the phone down every once in a while and enjoy life.
That's normal if ur 4g on
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It can take 4-5 charge cycles for the battery to really get worked in.
Also, check out the juice defender plus app. Doubled my battery life.
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Lithium Ion cells do not get better in any way after a few charges.
In fact the capacity goes down a wee tiny little bit with each and every charge, so your first charge was the "best" one.
Stop playing around with the thing for 5 hours non stop and you will get decent runtime.
Best thing to do with a new device is to charge it up fully as soon as you can. Then run it down until you get the low battery warning. Then charge it back up.
Battery life will likely be pretty poor for the first week or so, then it will normalize.
Deep discharging (to 0%) is about the worst thing you can do to a LiIon battery, because it "hurts" it much more than several shallow discharges.
Also, like I said before, battery capacity won't in any way rise or "normalize" over the first week.
Battery life is poor the first days because you use your shiny new device all the time (i.e. more than later). It's like that for all of us.
My battery life sucked the first few days, It got better though. It really only seems to suck it down if it is hunting for a signal constantly.
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If you are using your phone a laptop replacement and are surfing the web constantly, expect it to die like a laptop.
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You also need to try this manual battery calibration:
http://myhtcdesire.com/tutorials/how-to-improve-your-battery-life-calibration-tutorial
After I did this, saw the battery reading 99% and 98% more often rather than straight to 96% after charged.
Originally, it was suggested by HTC tech support. I did that once every six months or so ... And my battery level is now improved. Screenshots will follow in the next post.
Not bad?
Sync is off btw. And this includes using Maps 2%.
At least with my usage pattern, I am more or less satisfied.
I wish Google fixes the high Android OS Keep awake time!
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cvbcbcmv said:
You need to remember the only thing relating to battery life is not just the battery, it's software as well, hence calibration. After about a week or so your phone gets a "feel" for your battery and gets more battery stats, so it's more accurate with it's readings. That is a proven fact, you need to think about all things.
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It is quite easy to gauge a Lithium Ion battery. 4.20 V = full. 3.60 V = empty. Your phone can read the battery precise to 0.001 V. The curve isn't linear, but it's well known what voltage relates to the exact capacity left in the battery.
There's really no room to "feel" anything there, just simple math.
Smokeey said:
ProTip: Put the phone down every once in a while and enjoy life.
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I consistently get 15-18 hours of use out of mine with the extended battery.
But to the OP, if your screen is taking up 60% of your battery, it's always on, your battery is gonna die, it happens. Your battery doesn't get "better" with time. It seems that way because you aren't glued to the device 24/7.
Mine was god awful when I first got it but after a week or so it got much, much better.
I have the GSM version though.
60% screen time gawt damn! Did you talk to anyone that day?
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60% screen time gawt damn! Did you talk to anyone that day?
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Google need to run classes on how to read the battery consumption pages. 61% screen means that the screen used 61% of the total battery used, not that the screen was on 61% of the time.
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Horrible battery life with their "extended" battery

I call it "extende" battery because it's 250maH more than the stock, big whoop.
I have maybe 10-15 calls per day. I unplug at 10am and by 4-5PM I am at 14% battery. There is NOTHING running. I even switched to CDMA only from LTE/CDMA and it didn't help much.
Any recommendations? I am about to return it. My HTC Thunderbolt which has the WORST battery life of ANY phone lasts me through the day and that's with Facebook and other notification apps.
Wait for 4.03 and see if that helps. Otherwise, turn down screen brightness, turn off LTE, and get better reception. Also, charge it every chance you get.
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I can't fix any reception issues. This has horrible reception compared to my Thunderbolt as well which itself was bad with reception.
I have it on 3G only and the screen is already turned down.
I mean no disrespect but if the only option is to wait for a "patch" to fix this I probably should return it.
I paid out of contract price for this phone. $649.99 + 8.1% sales tax.
Don't get me wrong. This phone is blazing fast compared to my Thunderbolt but in the end I may just exchange it for an iPhone 4S which has sucky battery life but I can get through 2-3 days on a single charge.
If you even have to think about getting an iPhone, this phone isn't for you.
Seriously, something is probably wrong with your device. I get no reception issues. Sounds like that is the brunt if your issues.
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I would say return the 2100mAh battery at least but don't return the phone. LTE is a huge battery hog as is and with the size of this screen it isn't helping either. I'm anxiously awaiting either Mugen or Seidio to make a decent extended battery for it. There is a generic 'made in China' 3800mAh battery currently circulating around eBay pretty cheap, although I haven't tried it out myself yet.
How long have you been using the extended battery? You have to give it at least a week before making any decisions.
I've had the phone since Monday/Tuesday
You should first compare with the standard battery with the same usage pattern. If the standard battery gives you more time then there's a problem with your extended battery. If the standard battery gives you less time, then the extended battery is okay but you should look at your rom settings instead.
Relevant http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
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LVNeptune8 said:
I call it "extende" battery because it's 250maH more than the stock, big whoop.
I have maybe 10-15 calls per day. I unplug at 10am and by 4-5PM I am at 14% battery. There is NOTHING running. I even switched to CDMA only from LTE/CDMA and it didn't help much.
Any recommendations? I am about to return it. My HTC Thunderbolt which has the WORST battery life of ANY phone lasts me through the day and that's with Facebook and other notification apps.
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If you're using the phone lightly and losing 85% in 6 hours, then there is a hardware problem. Don't buy into the hype that an OS update is going to fix the problem, it probably won't. I have great battery life on my GN using 4.0.2. I think a lot of people have a hardware defected phone, and are in for a surprise when the OS update launches and doesn't fix the battery issues. The Galaxy S already got 4.0.3, and users are still reporting massive battery drain.
Carry a few batteries or a charger and enjoy.
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I have found that the battery life I get with my extended battery is above and beyond anything I would have expected. Use WiFi if it is available for you at work or at home because it's typically faster (unless you have 4G signal and slow wifi) and uses much less power than typical cell radios.
milan03 said:
Carry a few batteries or a charger and enjoy.
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Lol totally a reasonable way to keep your phone functional. Hey, just sew another pocket on your jeans just to hold cellphone batteries, no biggie.
I think battery life varies wildly depending on individual circumstances.
My area has stellar LTE reception, I keep the screen at 30% brightness, and I do light web browsing, RSS viewing, and podcast listening.
With the extended battery, I get anywhere from 9-12 hours before hitting 5% battery. Battery usage typically shows ~50% screen and ~20% Android OS.
Granted, battery life dips significantly when gaming or watching Netflix, which I always do at 100% brightness.
Stockmoose16 said:
If you're using the phone lightly and losing 85% in 6 hours, then there is a hardware problem. Don't buy into the hype that an OS update is going to fix the problem, it probably won't. I have great battery life on my GN using 4.0.2. I think a lot of people have a hardware defected phone, and are in for a surprise when the OS update launches and doesn't fix the battery issues. The Galaxy S already got 4.0.3, and users are still reporting massive battery drain.
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although Nexus S has 4.0.3, the update for Galaxy Nexus will be designed for that specific hardware; thus battery life, performance etc will be completely different.
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I have the extended battery, using Roman's ROM and I go to sleep at night with about 25% battery left. I make about 5 calls a day, lasting about 20 minutes each. I surf on the phone a LOT, but am always on wifi when surfing.
I have always found that finding the right ROM with the best battery life (sometimes using different kernals) is a necessity with smartphones.
This is ridiculous. Unplugged for 1 hour and now it's at 44%. Absolutely nothing running. I watched it drop from 46-44%
LVNeptune8 said:
This is ridiculous. Unplugged for 1 hour and now it's at 44%. Absolutely nothing running. I watched it drop from 46-44%
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What is your screen on time? How many apps do you have installed? Are you running stock? Has the phone actually died?
Just because it says its that low doesn't even mean it's that low. Could be an error in reporting. I don't pay much attention to the percent... I go by when my phone actually dies.
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Don't get me wrong. This phone is blazing fast compared to my Thunderbolt but in the end I may just exchange it for an iPhone 4S which has sucky battery life but I can get through 2-3 days on a single charge.
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Get the iPhone and enjoy the tiny screen and amazingly horrible display. Then enjoy the fact that you can't do anything software related to the iPhone as well. And finally, go wait online for the next iPhone flop like every other fanbois out there and don't bother coming back to visit XDA where people enjoy the most up to date technology and don't waste Thread space by posting more useless threads.
Thanks I'm done ranting now.
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I got the official extended battery and have noticed much greater battery life. I now get a full day with heavy use
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DISGUSTING battery life

Alright first of all, i want start off by saying that i LOVE this phone, both in terms of hardware and software, however, theres is a HUGE problem that i just can't get through and its the battery of this phone...
It is simply unbearable.
I have posted the screenshots. This screenshot is taken after 1 whole night of charging. In 5 hours or so time, I've use the music app for about 1 hour, talked on the phone for about 5-10min and sent about 10 text messages. I didn't do any web browsing/videos/gaming. I have also disabled LTE and turned my brightness to minimum with eco mode on. These small things drained my battery from 100% to less than 10% within 5 hours which i find to be completely unacceptable.
Last night, with me browsing the web on the bus for about an hour or so, it drained my battery from 85% to 3% by the time i got home...
I've looked at the battery life thread and it seems like im the only one experiencing this issue. Also not only does it drain SUPER fast, it takes a good 4 to 5 hours to recharge this thing. Which means it takes longer to charge than to use up even with minimal use...
Do I have a faulty phone and should I get it replaced???
Something's amiss. The only time that I've gotten less than 10 hours, is when I had my work email connection set up to "always connected" and wifi was turned on. Even then, I got 9+ hours of battery life.
Disabling lte is part of the problem. When the phone is in 3g, it uses fast dormancy which LG did not implement very well and it runs the CPU constantly. I encourage you to contact LG and your carrier and complain. don't let them tell you about background data or applications running the battery down. With the same apps running, this does not happen on lte. This can easily be verified by enabling debugging and then capturing a logcat from adb with lte both enabled and disabled. It will show fast dormancy trying to set network states every second. I spent a lot of time trying to get this issue recognized, but they kept saying that it had not been reported and was not a known issue. Let's make it a known issue so they will fix it.
How about actually showing us what you used instead of screen shots of %.... would be helpful...
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Have you considered that maybe you have a faulty unit.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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you definitely want to return this thing.
Don't know about you...but I let my phone die twice then fully charged it but my battery life is amazing
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Yeah, I've been quite impressed with my battery life on this thing. I made it from 6:30am spent about 2 hours tweaking it and setting it up, then messed around with it through the day. By supper time I plugged it in and it was at 63%.
I don't have the phone, but right off the bat i'd say it was whatever was causing your mediaserver to go nuts. Either some media app, YouTube, gallery etc, wouldn't say its a faulty unit, just mediaserver gone rogue
And damn i want this phone...
Looks like a widget or live wallpaper is going crazy
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Well, a little update to this thread, i've disabled every different kind of syncing possible and i've been able to pretty much double my battery life from before, which is a lot better but i still wouldn't consider this to be good battery life.
I've been reading many posts regarding battery life, and it seems like there is some issue within the software that prevents the phone from going into deep sleep which is causing the lack luster battery life. This issue is on both the optimus g and the nexus 4, so i hope the devs may look into this issue when they are building custom roms for these two devices!
waaw Optimus G
I just got my optimus yesterday and had a full charge this morning. Been using it for almost 12 hours pretty steady. Have 16% battery left. I would say my battery is pretty amazing.
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Get a replacement that's what I did with my first one. I was getting 6-7 hours with light use.
Got a replacements and was able to get 19_14 hours battery.
Also today I left my cell at home and it was unplugged at 100% after 9 hours I came home and saw it at 95%.
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You definitely seem to have some weird issue's. My Optimus is great for battery life. My previous phone was an Xperia Arc and this has significantly better battery life without even running it in "eco mode". The only time I have noticed less then stellar battery life was when I had some app's running in the back ground that would keep refreshing/updating which kill's the battery.
Androids usage readings are inaccurate. Please consult this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
From what the picture shows I would guess its your 4G connection. A Hardware fault is improbable. And forget these things like "eco mode". Even if they underclock your cpu it won't give you a real benefit,
I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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DraginMagik said:
I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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I also have amazing battery life IMO, coming from a Galaxy S. I have no LTE in this area so am using only HSPA. Using the phone with casual use, I can easily go a full 24 hours on a charge. With very very heavy use I can go from 8 am till around 11 PM. I am very happy with the battery life overall. I'm running on "eco mode" FWIW.

[Q] Question about battery

Is it normal that my battery goes down a percent every 3-4 minutes, just by doing simple things like web browsing?
No. Something is wrong on your end. Check for any apps running the background that shouldn't be running at all.
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Open the battery utility to see what is consuming the highest percentage of power.
The display is one of the biggest power consumers. What level is your brightness at? The new N7 can achieve almost 600 nits. That is ridiculously high. The ipad 3/4 and Mini max out around 400 nits. I've found 200 to be a good compromise between battery life and ease on the eyes.
I have. I even factory restored. The standby time is great but once I start using it the battery just drains like that
I would let the device die completely and charge it up to 100% and use it intensely for a bit and track it. My experience with Android is to let the first few cycles of battery settle in the kernel and all that. Sometimes Unix takes a few days to get acquainted with it's space in my experience.
noxxle said:
Open the battery utility to see what is consuming the highest percentage of power.
The display is one of the biggest power consumers. What level is your brightness at? The new N7 can achieve almost 600 nits. That is ridiculously high. The ipad 3/4 and Mini max out around 400 nits. I've found 200 to be a good compromise between battery life and ease on the eyes.
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My brightness level is at about 25%
LearnIIBurn said:
I would let the device die completely and charge it up to 100% and use it intensely for a bit and track it. My experience with Android is to let the first few cycles of battery settle in the kernel and all that. Sometimes Unix takes a few days to get acquainted with it's space in my experience.
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I've done like 5 cycles already. It just sucks cause I see people getting 8-11 hours of screen time and I only get 4-5.
Steven2197 said:
I've done like 5 cycles already. It just sucks cause I see people getting 8-11 hours of screen time and I only get 4-5.
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I have about 5 hours on actual screen on time right now and I'm at 38% and 13h since I pulled it off the charger. Mine tends to drop a lot when using Facebook and playing games, cause they're memory hogs. I can listen to music and go on reddit for probably an entire day and it'll get 10 hours.
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Steven2197 said:
I've done like 5 cycles already. It just sucks cause I see people getting 8-11 hours of screen time and I only get 4-5.
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I got battery issues as well only 5 hours of on screen time........ You can get "Better battery stats" free from Xda, but I can tell you I've checked and nothing is running in the background, deep sleep is good but it dies after about 5 hours of using it. It's looking like some units are shipping with a defective battery. I don't see a lot of people reporting this though.
Here is the link to the free battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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snipe2nite said:
I got battery issues as well only 5 hours of on screen time........ You can get "Better battery stats" free from Xda, but I can tell you I've checked and nothing is running in the background, deep sleep is good but it dies after about 5 hours of using it. It's looking like some units are shipping with a defective battery. I don't see a lot of people reporting this though.
Here is the link to the free battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I've already done that and nothing is running in the background. This sucks I guess I'll go return it tomorrow for a new one.
It just sucks because other than the battery issue this device is perfect no light bleed issues or nothing
Also does your battery sometimes skips percentages? Because mine does
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I've already done that and nothing is running in the background. This sucks I guess I'll go return it tomorrow for a new one.
It just sucks because other than the battery issue this device is perfect no light bleed issues or nothing
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Yep exactly, no other issues on mine. I really don't want to get another one with all kinds of other issues......... At least you and me know the other issues to look for, kinda sad......
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Yep exactly, no other issues on mine. I really don't want to get another one with all kinds of other issues......... At least you and me know the other issues to look for, kinda sad......
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Most of the battery issues I've seen have all had the 5 hour screen on time problem, I don't know I just find that really weird but oh well
I'm also getting average of 5hrs screen on time. Nothing is draining the battery as far as I can tell. Today for instance I took it off the charger and went out. 7hrs later it had 96% with 6 minutes on screen time. It's at 13hrs on with 5 hrs on screen time mostly chrome, Twitter, instagram, Google+, quick games of words with friends and draw something 2 five minutes each game max if that. I would kill for anything close to 7hrs let alone 9hrs. Also the touch sensitivity goes bonkers often with my Nexus registering touches pretty far from where my finger is. I think I might just try and exchange it. Brightness at 20% maybe.
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I have a battery drain issue with my new nexus 7. it cost 25%-30% battery overnight while i was sleeping. so i decided to factory reset it, and not installing any apps to test its standby time. it still cost ~20% battery overnight. Is it a defective product or it's a software issue? Maybe i should return it for a new one
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I have a battery drain issue with my new nexus 7. it cost 25%-30% battery overnight while i was sleeping. so i decided to factory reset it, and not installing any apps to test its standby time. it still cost ~20% battery overnight. Is it a defective product or it's a software issue? Maybe i should return it for a new one
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Return it. There's no way you should be draining that quickly just in standby.
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I'm also getting average of 5hrs screen on time. Nothing is draining the battery as far as I can tell. Today for instance I took it off the charger and went out. 7hrs later it had 96% with 6 minutes on screen time. It's at 13hrs on with 5 hrs on screen time mostly chrome, Twitter, instagram, Google+, quick games of words with friends and draw something 2 five minutes each game max if that. I would kill for anything close to 7hrs let alone 9hrs. Also the touch sensitivity goes bonkers often with my Nexus registering touches pretty far from where my finger is. I think I might just try and exchange it. Brightness at 20% maybe.
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I almost have the same exact usage as you and have that touch screen problem too. I guess we don't have defective units
Battery Test
I pulled my new N7 off the charger thsi morning and decided to test the battery because it seemed to be draining too quickly for my taste. I streamed two movies, Star Trek (2009) from Google Play and The Apostle from Showtime Anytime. that is only 4 hours and 20 minutes of movies. My tablet died before the Apostle finished. Had about 20 minutes left on it.
I am not satisfied with this paltry battery life. Google website said it would run 9 hours of movies non stop. 4 hours isn't even close. There are several "comparisons" out there but they only compare what the company said. I am not sure the battery is all it is cracked up to be. I am going to do some further testing but right now it looks like I will forego the New Nexus 7 and pick up a Kindle Fire HD. That battery life does last for hours and for what I need it will suit me fine.
I welcome your comments.
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I pulled my new N7 off the charger thsi morning and decided to test the battery because it seemed to be draining too quickly for my taste. I streamed two movies, Star Trek (2009) from Google Play and The Apostle from Showtime Anytime. that is only 4 hours and 20 minutes of movies. My tablet died before the Apostle finished. Had about 20 minutes left on it.
I am not satisfied with this paltry battery life. Google website said it would run 9 hours of movies non stop. 4 hours isn't even close. There are several "comparisons" out there but they only compare what the company said. I am not sure the battery is all it is cracked up to be. I am going to do some further testing but right now it looks like I will forego the New Nexus 7 and pick up a Kindle Fire HD. That battery life does last for hours and for what I need it will suit me fine.
I welcome your comments.
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Yeah the battery is terrible for some. There's a chance our nexus 7's are defective but maybe a software update will fix it? Who knows
I have same problems. Only about 5 hours screen on time, and it drains quick if I am streaming especially with Netflix.

Battery Reducing Quickly?

Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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rcobourn said:
So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
aznmode said:
Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
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Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.

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