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So I want to have Pandora play continuously, as it currently stops when the screen locks. After some searching, it looks like the fix is to keep mobile data always on.
However 'Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Enable always-on mobile data' DOES NOT EXIST. What gives?
From what I can tell by doing a simple Google image search, the only phones to even have this option are pre ICS/JB.
If the option has been removed, is there any way to bring it back? If not, can I do anything else to have Pandora keep playing after the screen has been locked for a few minutes? I don't have any battery optimization apps (JuiceDefender, etc) installed that could be causing data to drop.
I'm on a GSM Galaxy Nexus (T-Mobile) running 4.1.1 rooted.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advanced.
Pandora stops playing when your screen turns off? That seems more like a network throttling problem. Once your screen turns off it throttles down to 2g? I've never had a problem with pandora not playing when the screen locks.
Yeah, the next song wont load.
I don't think it's throttling down to 2G, I'm pretty sure it just disconnects from mobile data.
I'm not the only one with this issue (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698172)
That is very strange.
Instead of trying to set data to always on, try setting screen on to always on.
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Data always on while the screen is off is the default. There is no settings option to control what happens with mobile data when the screen is off. There's an option for WiFi, but not mobile data.
Are you sure you don't have an app that's turning off your mobile data when your screen is off? That's usually what's happening in these situations.
Could also be an issue with Pandora. Have you tried other apps and experienced the same thing? Also, you'd be able to see the data being turned back on when you turn the screen on (it takes several seconds). If you turn the screen on and it shows its connected in the status bar, the data isn't turning off and you're having another problem.
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martonikaj said:
Data always on while the screen is off is the default. There is no settings option to control what happens with mobile data when the screen is off. There's an option for WiFi, but not mobile data.
Are you sure you don't have an app that's turning off your mobile data when your screen is off? That's usually what's happening in these situations.
Could also be an issue with Pandora. Have you tried other apps and experienced the same thing? Also, you'd be able to see the data being turned back on when you turn the screen on (it takes several seconds). If you turn the screen on and it shows its connected in the status bar, the data isn't turning off and you're having another problem.
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I'm sure there is no other app that's controlling this. I did however mess around with multiple 'toggle' apps when I first got the phone. Maybe I toggled the wrong thing. Would the setting stick even through an un-install of the app?
When I unlock the phone sometimes, the internet icon in the status bar is grey. It turns to blue shortly after. From what I have read though, this is normal to some extent, right?
I think you're right about this being a Pandora issue. I just realized that I use the default music app to stream all of my music through Google Play with the phone locked for hours on end and no issues at all.
Not sure how to fix Pandora though. The songs stop playing even on wifi when I lock the screen. I even have 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' set to Always. I'd hate to not use Pandora much because of this, since I just find out how to get unlimited skips and no ads.
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That is very strange.
Instead of trying to set data to always on, try setting screen on to always on.
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Yeah I could do that when plugged in and charging, but I don't want to kill battery when not.
Are you under clocking your device?
You could try the WIFI high performance widget when you are on WiFi, but I don't know if will help when on mobile data.
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It's not the app. Been using Pandora since I got the Gnex with no issues. Do you have some battery saving app? That may turn off data when screen is off...
Edit: Also AOKP has the auto data off in settings I believe.. are you on stock rooted ROM? I saw you say you have no app but something is turning off your data.
Herman76 said:
Are you under clocking your device?
You could try the WIFI high performance widget when you are on WiFi, but I don't know if will help when on mobile data.
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WIFI high performance totally works! Thank you. The strange thing is even though the app doesn't work over mobile data (obviously), Pandora magically started working with the phone locked on mobile data. I even uninstalled the app, and it still works over. However, it won't continue streaming for me on wifi unless I enable WIFI high performance. Not a huge deal, I'm just happy it works.
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It's not the app. Been using Pandora since I got the Gnex with no issues. Do you have some battery saving app? That may turn off data when screen is off...
Edit: Also AOKP has the auto data off in settings I believe.. are you on stock rooted ROM? I saw you say you have no app but something is turning off your data.
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I'm rooted on the stock ROM and I'm sure nothing is turning it off. It actually magically works now over mobile date, but I still have issues on wifi unless I enable the widget mentioned above. Yours streams over wifi no problem?
When I turn on my phone, and go to Google Play, I get the "background data disabled" error message.
My background data isn't disabled.
I can solve this by pressing the tab button (bottom-left button) and closing all running programs. Then if I start Google Play again, it works.
It's also causing issues with the testing of my game. The IAP system seems to be broken before I do the above.
Is it a known problem on the Note 4?
Go to Settings, Data Usage and make sure the circled processes do not have background data disabled.
If any of the processes have restricted background data, then you'll get that message.
Next, if you use Power Saving mode, go to Settings, General tab, Power Saving and unchecked Restrict Background data.
If none of this helps, then I'm clueless and can only suggest a factory reset, which will definitely fix it until you mess it up again (no offense).
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I don't actually have any of those in my list (no mobile usage I guess), except for Android OS. And, Android OS doesn't allow me to restrict background usage.
I don't have Power Saving mode enabled.
Like I said, it fixes itself if I remove Google Play from memory after trying to start it the first time... so it is not a question of restricting background data, although that's a moot question anyway.
Clear cache?
Go to Settings>Data usage and hit the menu key. Make sure restrict background data is not selected.
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try setting the date and time manually
auto time from network seems to be slightly off.
Hey, I'm having the same problem on my Droid Turbo, but none of the fixes suggested above helped. Background data was already on, and I tried turning it {data} off and on again. Did the same with the phone. Other apps are clearly making data contact, but Google Play and Chrome are not.
I just got a "Unfortunately, system UI has stopped." I have managed to shut down the phone...
All I know I did before that happened is turn on the pointer position overlay.
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
lbreak said:
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
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I'm not sure this effects that, but while setting up phone from a factory reset etc, do you Uncheck the fields that pop up such as analytics, wifi scanning (even while off) and all the other ones ?
I uncheck all the crap i can. It's possible if you leave those checked that could be the culprit a bunch of services running in bckgrd....
Just a guess....but if you say this has happened on all your androids....maybe this is why.
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louforgiveno said:
I'm not sure this effects that, but while setting up phone from a factory reset etc, do you Uncheck the fields that pop up such as analytics, wifi scanning (even while off) and all the other ones ?
I uncheck all the crap i can. It's possible if you leave those checked that could be the culprit a bunch of services running in bckgrd....
Just a guess....but if you say this has happened on all your androids....maybe this is why.
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Yep I un-ckeck all of those fields. Makes zero difference overall (I have tried both ways).
lbreak said:
Yep I un-ckeck all of those fields. Makes zero difference overall (I have tried both ways).
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That sucks, could it be due to social media apps syncing constantly? Sorry I'm out of ideas....
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Ibreak, maybe the problem is caused by apps sending reports and analytics via google services, samsung related stuff always sends analytics, even if you do not facebook, the damned thing is always lurking and consuming resources, google app and chrome also are resources-hoarders, I use ccswe to disable all useless firebase, crash, analytics, ad listeners, campaign trackers, components and some boot listeners within many apps
lbreak said:
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
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Enable Developer option
then go Settings» Developer options» running services
Here you should see a bunch of services running. A number of them should fall under Android System, close all related to Android System (it is ok to do so)
Then under Google Play services close all (well two of those services are persistent so they will auto start back in a couple seconds, lockscreeen service and Google location service), nothing you can do about this other than to disable Google play services which would then cause a lot of apps to cry like pandora, samsung internet browser, play store, YouTube etc.
Then go settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» battery» disable background activity
On each restart Android system background activity will be automatically enabled so just disable it on each restart.
The thing is it could be a number of apps or services that is causing the issue through Android system but a good indicator of which app might be causing your issue is to check Android system memory which is right below background activity, there it should show which app is accessing the memory through it the most. Disable that app or clean its cache/data.
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The thing is it could be a number of apps or services that is causing the issue through Android system but a good indicator of which app might be causing your issue is to check Android system memory which is right below background activity, a.
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Thanks lennie,
How do I check this?
lbreak said:
Thanks lennie,
How do I check this?
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It's in the same place you'd find background activity, but instead of going to battery, go to memory.
settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» memory
At the top above average memory usage you should see the app.
I would recommend using a package disabler (ccswe from the play store or package disabler pro from their website)
You can disable a lot of things but DO NOT disable
boot agent (could lock your phone in bootloop)
Android system (could hand your phone on boot up)
One UI (unless you have a different launcher installed and enabled)
IMS is important too
There's one more I can't remember right now, but you get the idea.
If you're not too sure if something can get disabled with no harsh side effects then just post the question
settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» mobile data
Shows a list of all the apps that have access to the network through Android system, disable the the ones you're sure you're not using or will use. That should shorten the list of potential battery drainer.
Thanks again.
It just shows an app called "face" under Android System memory. I assume that's for face unlock.
Be careful with disabling OneUI, because it will also disable the task manager and you'll got a really ugly one instead.
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Thanks again.
It just shows an app called "face" under Android System memory. I assume that's for face unlock.
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Yeah that's for face unlock. I used to use it but since the fingerprint scanner update it has been working really well with my screen protector so I don't really need it anymore so I have it disabled.
If you don't use face.
How i use my phone to maximize my battery is simple. Things I don't use or need I keep them disabled, some I simply disable until I need them like the play store or galaxy store etc. Every other day or so I would check those apps to see if there is an update I might want to install.
lennie said:
Yeah that's for face unlock. I used to use it but since the fingerprint scanner update it has been working really well with my screen protector so I don't really need it anymore so I have it disabled.
If you don't use face.
How i use my phone to maximize my battery is simple. Things I don't use or need I keep them disabled, some I simply disable until I need them like the play store or galaxy store etc. Every other day or so I would check those apps to see if there is an update I might want to install.
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I only use the fingerprint sensor, but it's still shows (only) Face there. Any idea?
There's really no fix to Android System drain, it's especially worse when you're on mobile data.
Hello,
I have an issue with my Note 10+ where apps that are running in the background are being killed and they show no notifications.
For example, if I'm downloading an app from the Play Store and I went to home screen or switched to another window, it just stops installing, until you go back to the Play Store then it resumes installing the app. Also, the auto-update for apps is not working at all. I have to go to the Play Store and install the apps manually.
One more example is the Gmail app. I don't get notifications instantly when I receive an email. I get all email notifications when I unlock the phone.
I have tried everything related to cache erasing/disabling battery optimization for the Play Store (and Play Services/Download Manger) and Gmail, making sure that these apps are not in the sleeping apps list, etc. I even tried wiping the phone's cache and resetting to factory settings. Nothing works and the issue persists. I have adaptive battery enabled, and Power Mode sat to "Optimized" (PS: I tried disabling the adaptive battery and setting the Power Mode to "High Performance" with no luck.
My device is Exynos.
Anybody facing the same issues? This is really annoying and frustrating, and I'm thinking of switching the phone because of this issue.
No such issue. I don't use adaptive battery nor anything under app power management; also no auto optimisations or auto restart. And of course no app, God forbid, that clears or otherwise optimises memory.
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For example, if I'm downloading an app from the Play Store and I went to home screen or switched to another window, it just stops installing, until you go back to the Play Store then it resumes installing the app. Also, the auto-update for apps is not working at all. I have to go to the Play Store and install the apps manually.
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I am facing the same issue on my Note10+ and S10+ and even with my Pixel. I think this is an Android problem and not manufacturer specific. I have also disabled any app power saving and app optimizations but whenever I manually check the Play Store there will usually be several apps waiting to be updated.
This happens with my Apple devices too. My iPhone XS Max and 11" iPad Pro never auto updates apps.
Is there a way to prevent an app from ever being killed? I have 2 examples:
1) Fitbit app (background sync service, specifically) - when this stops running, some features on my watch quit working until I launch the app and sync manually.
2) Battery monitor app - I've tried AccuBattery (my preferred app), GSam, and BBS, but they all get killed and restart, and therefore give inaccurate information. BBS doesn't die as often as the others, but I don't like it as well. All 3 have persistent notifications, so I can tell when they last restarted.
I've set Battery Optimization to "Don't Optimize" for all of these. I've tried turning off all 3 of the settings under Advanced Optimization (probably unnecessary, no noticeable difference). I've also Locked each of these from recent apps. Are there any other settings I'm missing that could prevent an app from being killed? Possibly something new to Android 11? Fitbit and AccuBattery worked fine on my previous OP7P with Android 10.
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Is there a way to prevent an app from ever being killed? I have 2 examples:
1) Fitbit app (background sync service, specifically) - when this stops running, some features on my watch quit working until I launch the app and sync manually.
2) Battery monitor app - I've tried AccuBattery (my preferred app), GSam, and BBS, but they all get killed and restart, and therefore give inaccurate information. BBS doesn't die as often as the others, but I don't like it as well. All 3 have persistent notifications, so I can tell when they last restarted.
I've set Battery Optimization to "Don't Optimize" for all of these. I've tried turning off all 3 of the settings under Advanced Optimization (probably unnecessary, no noticeable difference). I've also Locked each of these from recent apps. Are there any other settings I'm missing that could prevent an app from being killed? Possibly something new to Android 11? Fitbit and AccuBattery worked fine on my previous OP7P with Android 10.
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I have try to to go to developer mode and go to standby application. go inside and set the app you want to always on to active and remember still set battery to don't Optimize and locked the app. Do not click the clear all button.
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I have try to to go to developer mode and go to standby application. go inside and set the app you want to always on to active and remember still set battery to don't Optimize and locked the app. Do not click the clear all button.
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Interesting, I haven't seen that before. Thanks for introducing me to something new. All of the apps in question are currently grayed out and say Exempted, so they shouldn't ever be put into standby.
Disable all power management*, Android does fine without it. Address any remaining power hogs individually on a case by case basis.
Power management will cause erratic behavior and can even increase battery usage even after its lame "adjustment" period.
To check if it is fully disabled go to Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show to be in their active state (and can't be manually assigned), if not power management is enabled.
Make sure allow background usage isn't disabled on the apps you want to run.
*yeah turn all those optimizing toggles OFF.
Only fast charging should be toggled on if you use it.
blackhawk said:
Disable all power management*, Android does fine without it. Address any remaining power hogs individually on a case by case basis.
Power management will cause erratic behavior and can even increase battery usage even after its lame "adjustment" period.
To check if it is fully disabled go to Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show to be in their active state (and can't be manually assigned), if not power management is enabled.
Make sure allow background usage isn't disabled on the apps you want to run.
*yeah turn all those optimizing toggles OFF.
Only fast charging should be toggled on if you use it.
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How does one disable all power management? I don't see any sort of global switch for that. Turning it off entirely seems drastic, but I agree that power management is generally more trouble than it's worth.
I did verify that the apps in question are allowed to run in the background and use unlimited data.
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How does one disable all power management? I don't see any sort of global switch for that. Turning it off entirely seems drastic, but I agree that power management is generally more trouble than it's worth.
I did verify that the apps in question are allowed to run in the background and use unlimited data.
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It seems like you're setting up right. Check the Stand by apps status.
When you first load Accubattery it gives an option to disable task killing in settings, Pro version.
Uninstalling then reinstalling it sometimes works for me; clearing its data does not. I was getting the same error message until I just reinstalled it
Just don't take Accubattery too seriously... it's useful up to a point.
I'm on Pie. Google really screwed up 10 and especially 11... so yeah it could something new as Google insists on changing things even if they're already nearly perfect
If that fails check with Accubattery for guidance with 11. They are responsive to emails.
They may also be punching out an update.