Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.
MickyFoley said:
Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.
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Glad I could help.
ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s
so what does this mean now exactly?!
what are the advantages, what can be accomplished? the Google Cam HDR still doesn't seem to work correctly on the 5t.
@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.
OnePlus 5 also shows ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s (latest stock rom)
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@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.
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This means pictures will be lot better then on original camera app?
Would like to see some comparison from OP5t camera and OpenCamera. I still thinking to buy this great piece of tech, but its all about camera what I am focused about. Google phones not available in my country (officialy), Im getting sick over Samsungs (got them for 3 years now, too much!) as all what is good on Sammies is camera. Want to move from my s7e as there was no good flagship, but OP5t is perfect, if at least have same quality of pictures/videos as its on s7e, even if that means using 3rd party app.
@droidhd: This means, the device is theoretically able to do better images via the correct working Camera2 API. Mostly, images will be bad because of post-processing. And if you shoot RAW, mostly the hardware and the correct implemented API is significant for good photos. Maybe you'll see more grain. Maybe the colors aren't the same like you do with the standard camera app. But I'd say: Yes, they get better with more advanced camera apps.
My list of professional camera apps (No need for social media crap like filters, effects, etc.):
Open Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera (Simply a great piece of software!)
Snap Camera HDR (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap (Looks like abandoned. Last update 1 year ago)
Manual Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2
A Better Camera Unlocked: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam_plus (Looks abandoned, but will get updates from time to time. Unsteady, but alive)
Camera FV-5 (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
ProShot: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
Footej Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.footej.camera
Sadly, only one for video left:
FiLMiC Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=FiLMiC+Inc. (Please try Evaluator first!)
Cinema FV-5: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.cinema.pro (Seems abandoned. Last update 2 years ago)
The list isn't very long, I know. Feel free to extend it. But please: No filters, no effects, no social media like things. Those are around in thousands and nothing professional in it!
Micky, could you explain to me why it is common knowledge that picture quality is usually best when the stock rom with the stock cam is used compared to any photography app running on custom roms?
I've read in so many threads, posts... that people went back to the stock rom just because pic quality is higher than on custom rom.
is this history when camera2 API works correctly? meaning that images are identical when using open camera on stock vs opencam on custom rom? or would opencam (or any other photo app) still produce images of lesser quality when used on a custom rom?
People went back, because of the abstraction layer and because drivers are still closed source. I'd like to compare it a bit:
If you setup a new computer, you only have standard drivers for each and everything. You can use it, but only if you install the correct drivers, things get to start working like they should. Like your graphics card: Working, but you'll notice some kind of stuttering/tearing when scrolling in your browser on certain websites. If you install the driver for your card: All is smooth, like it should.
So we can say: Drivers in AOSP are more like standard. Not all functions, more workarounds, but working OK. And drivers directly from stock (OEM) will get all functions to work good and smooth (if they're implemented correctly).
But you can see, that it's possible to get great photos out of your device with mods for Google Camera even on AOSP-ROMs. Because this mod brings itself some "magic". So you see: Closed source vs. open source. If we'd have the full code of the drivers: Photos, produced by the standard camera app of every OEM would probably look like crap.
OnePlus once promised to get us at least the camera blobs, but they didn't. They say: "Too hard!". Lie, because they know, that their already scratched images would suffer more than now, because Devs like sultanxda would have kicked their butts out of the universe by producing better photos than the stock camera app.
Thx for the answer Micky, i like the comparison with the computer and missing drivers, you made it much clearer now!
But 2 questions still remain:
1.) Does a 3rd party photo app (like Open Camera or any other one) lead to the exact the same picture quality if installed on a stock rom as compared to being used on a custom rom? Or will a 3rd party app still be better on the stock rom than on a custom rom because of the drivers you explained before?
And 2.) does this whole camera2 API aspect change what you explained about the driver situation? Meaning, that there is no need anymore for the drivers that can only be found in a stock rom because camera2 API gets to use the whole potential of the camera hardware?
Just trying to figure out where the best image quality can be found. The whole thing is too confusing to me, sorry
@vercetti: Sorry for the late reply. Was kinda busy. To answer your questions:
1: Yes and no. Depends. But pictures will probably visualize it a bit better:
HAL1 (LEGACY):
HAL3 (CAMERA2):
A bit more complex explained: https://source.android.com/devices/camera/camera3
2: HAL and driver are bond together. Without a driver, you can't even get HAL1 to work . But yes: A correct working HAL3 implementation will get you to the point of using your full potential of your camera. Again depends on the driver too . Hard to explain, but the more advanced explanation at Google should answer your questions very well.
Hello, i've been using arnova's modded gcams for a while, and noticed that video recording is extremelly dark, and sometimes get black screen flashes on it, not even close to photo's quality.
The only camera that seems to be doing an extremelly good job with videos is the oneplus modded one, but it lacks a lot of features.
Actually the image quality of the modded Gcam is shocking when enabling hwhdr on debugging and setting hdr to high, video doesn't stand a chance. As it doesn't happen only on one app, I believe it is a system or a camera2api configuration that the oneplus camera and the default camera ignores (I am running Pixel Experience, feb latest build, but it's a thing on every Oreo's ROM).
Is there anyone that knows about the topic any way or idea to debug it -be it from the camera source files or from the c2a settings-? It would be insane to have also the video ia for stabilization of the Gcam and maybe it can compare or be better than the OnePlus Camera.
Open to suggestions !
They is another problem with the modded gcam, when we select 60fps option camcorder the screen flickers while focusing and thats been recorded
There's nothing to do to check flickering, dark video and fix colours on preview? images looking a bit color-dead before obturation on some cameras, seems that only aplications that overrides those settings are working good. (modded gcams are dark and flickers on video, apps like instagram that doesnt obture gets a bit of lack of colours since preview doesnt do a bit of hwhdr to have an more accurate end result to obturation and also nicer looks on instagram photos). Seems to be a problem with the phone configuration since the camera can record well on other devices, and the op camera can record well on ours. Not like there are no ways around now, we can use both cameras and take the images with stock camera before uploading them but in long term it would be a nice improvement on social networks direct uploading, easier to take videos and photos on a single application (also to have gcam benefits as it is video stabilization). Sorry if I didn't explain myself properly, im not so good at english. Also, I didnt develop directly for android/camera but if someone with a bit of idea gives me the hand I can check out the settings. I don't have so much free time to learn now but as a developer with a couple of tips on the topic maybe I can find a way around to check those settings. Or if an experienced developer with time and will to do it I can help out maybe. I believe it's worth to give it a look
Hey guys,
I really like the google camera but it seems like I can't get 4k (30fps) video recording up and running. If I switch it on, the camera force closes, no matter what I do or what version I use.)
Right now I am at the latest version of saneklic (2018-07-21; MGCamera_5.1.0.18_R5Plus_v.5.1.17_fix_crash.apk)
I know about the tutorial claiming you need to enable it in some "whyred.xml" which is in a "device feature folder" (a folder somewhere in system/etc/) or something like that, but there is no such thing in a custom rom: it exists only on MIUI. I've already tried every tutorial possible, but nothing helps.
4k is working with the lineage snap, the google camera picture quality is much better though and I really prefere the gcam (because of additional settings/mods)
Thank you very much, any help is very much appreciated. If someone can help me, I will donate you a coffee :highfive:
Marvin
Hey man, I'm really disappointed so far by RN5, I couldn't find a way to record stabilized 4K on custom roms, not even with Open Camera which worked fine on MIUI 10. I have a two year old RN3 which records 4K with gcam (not stabilized) and takes slightly better photos than RN5.
So far i've tried RR, LOS and AEX. 4K recording crashes any camera I've used. Open Camera just gives an error. Waited 2 weeks to unlock bootloader, thinking it will open the gates of heaven. In fact been through hell since I unlocked(yesterday). Antirollback is like a minefield which I luckily avoided, then front camera barely works with gcam, some slight battery drain with custom roms and now 4K recording is broken. Feels like I've downgraded my phone.
Think I'll try to flash MIUI 10, root it, enable camera 2 api for gcam and use Open Camera for EIS enabled 4K. Btw the latest gcam by alone_in_dark works best, even front camera works quite good, try it.
Edit: I flashed MIUI 10, once I enabled camera2 api 4K doesn't work. So it's either 4K or HDR+. Thanks Xiaomi.
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Hey man, I'm really disappointed so far by RN5, I couldn't find a way to record stabilized 4K on custom roms, not even with Open Camera which worked fine on MIUI 10. I have a two year old RN3 which records 4K with gcam (not stabilized) and takes slightly better photos than RN5.
So far i've tried RR, LOS and AEX. 4K recording crashes any camera I've used. Open Camera just gives an error. Waited 2 weeks to unlock bootloader, thinking it will open the gates of heaven. In fact been through hell since I unlocked(yesterday). Antirollback is like a minefield which I luckily avoided, then front camera barely works with gcam, some slight battery drain with custom roms and now 4K recording is broken. Feels like I've downgraded my phone.
Think I'll try to flash MIUI 10, root it, enable camera 2 api for gcam and use Open Camera for EIS enabled 4K. Btw the latest gcam by alone_in_dark works best, even front camera works quite good, try it.
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Can you provide link to gcam ? Thanks.
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Can you provide link to gcam ? Thanks.
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Sure man
Direct download link https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/CameraX-V2.apk
Edit: For front camera don't use HDR+ enhanced, only HDR+.
Saicoth said:
Sure man
Direct download link https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/CameraX-V2.apk
Edit: For front camera don't use HRR+ enhanced, only HDR+.
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Holy grill,its nice thanks.
Didnt expect frontcam to work.But it does.
Saicoth said:
Hey man, I'm really disappointed so far by RN5, I couldn't find a way to record stabilized 4K on custom roms, not even with Open Camera which worked fine on MIUI 10. I have a two year old RN3 which records 4K with gcam (not stabilized) and takes slightly better photos than RN5.
So far i've tried RR, LOS and AEX. 4K recording crashes any camera I've used. Open Camera just gives an error. Waited 2 weeks to unlock bootloader, thinking it will open the gates of heaven. In fact been through hell since I unlocked(yesterday). Antirollback is like a minefield which I luckily avoided, then front camera barely works with gcam, some slight battery drain with custom roms and now 4K recording is broken. Feels like I've downgraded my phone.
Think I'll try to flash MIUI 10, root it, enable camera 2 api for gcam and use Open Camera for EIS enabled 4K. Btw the latest gcam by alone_in_dark works best, even front camera works quite good, try it.
Edit: I flashed MIUI 10, once I enabled camera2 api 4K doesn't work. So it's either 4K or HDR+. Thanks Xiaomi.
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Thanks for everything! To be honest I prefere much more [email protected] instead of [email protected] I managed to get 4k recordings on lineage snap & open camera no problem. Google camera is where it's at though, I love the settings & mods. I can help you out though if you really want to do 4k recordings ^^
MarvinMe said:
Thanks for everything! To be honest I prefere much more [email protected] instead of [email protected] I managed to get 4k recordings on lineage snap & open camera no problem. Google camera is where it's at though, I love the settings & mods. I can help you out though if you really want to do 4k recordings ^^
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Can't say no to that. But since 4K (3840 × 2160 resolution) doesn't appear in open camera after enabling camera2 api, I don't think there's a fix for that. It appears only 4000 x 2000 2:1 which gives an error. I did manage to get 4K working with another third party camera, but without EIS. Because RN5 can record 4K with excellent stabilization it's a pitty not to use it. So now if I want to record something I just use another build.prop without cam2.api then reboot, and switch back to enabled cam2.api prop when I want to use HDR+ :laugh:
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Can't say no to that. But since 4K (3840 × 2160 resolution) doesn't appear in open camera after enabling camera2 api, I don't think there's a fix for that. It appears only 4000 x 2000 2:1 which gives an error. I did manage to get 4K working with another third party camera, but without EIS. Because RN5 can record 4K with excellent stabilization it's a pitty not to use it. So now if I want to record something I just use another build.prop without cam2.api then reboot, and switch back to enabled cam2.api prop when I want to use HDR+ :laugh:
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This is horrible! I mean is it a firmware issue or some custom rom problem? Unfortuantly I'm not much into mobile software development... I really really want a fix, I would even pay money for it xD :highfive:
Edit_0: If we take a look at this link; a possible solution is shown but it doesn't work... a hotfix would be cool but meh it's alright you can't have it all...
Edit_1: Installing it as a system app doesn't help either btw
4K EIS with camera2 api
MarvinMe said:
This is horrible! I mean is it a firmware issue or some custom rom problem? Unfortuantly I'm not much into mobile software development... I really really want a fix, I would even pay money for it xD :highfive:
Edit_0: If we take a look at this link; a possible solution is shown but it doesn't work... a hotfix would be cool but meh it's alright you can't have it all...
Edit_1: Installing it as a system app doesn't help either btw
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Hello my friend, it seems you can have it all, I finally found a way to record 4K with EIS while having camera2 api enabled. I'm really happy now and overall satisfied with the phone. Only issue remaining is the front camera HDR+ which is beyond my knowledge, hopefully someone else will come with a fix.
So now, how I managed to record 4K? I'm on MIUI 10 (8.7.12), and using latest blackbox kernel by KunalKene1797. Don't know if these have any effect, but I thought it's good to know.
The third party camera I'm using is Snap Camera, there are certain settings which need to be enabled. I'll post a video with the settings I used and which worked best. 4K Video Support and Use Camera2 API being the most important ones. There could be other settings which could improve the recording, but I like to stay on these stable settings, because I'm pleased with the results so far.
Here's the video with the settings needed in Snap Cam https://youtu.be/gRj9LhYWv5Y(video is back)
Here's the first 4K video https://youtu.be/oQGc4gXnGU0
A test for auto-focus https://youtu.be/V41k21qKQpE
No EIS sample vs EIS https://youtu.be/_qNFNs2gq74 VS https://youtu.be/00J-3cAzLjg
Edit 1: I also tried setting higher bitrate than the default 42, however in windows at the details on the first video it shows 40 total bitrate and when setting to 64 it shows 42, either way it seems the quality was marginally improved. I guess the phone can't write faster than that or the storage doesn't allow it.
https://youtu.be/Q7Lqlr-QanA
Some stuttering can be seen from 0:08 to 0:11, but I think that's because the phone started thermal throttling, it's very hot outside and from all the testing, phone was quite hot too.
I really hope it works for you as well, take care.
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Hello my friend, it seems you can have it all, I finally found a way to record 4K with EIS while having camera2 api enabled. I'm really happy now and overall satisfied with the phone. Only issue remaining is the front camera HDR+ which is beyond my knowledge, hopefully someone else will come with a fix.
So now, how I managed to record 4K? I'm on MIUI 10 (8.7.12), and using latest blackbox kernel by KunalKene1797. Don't know if these have any effect, but I thought it's good to know.
The third party camera I'm using is Snap Camera, there are certain settings which need to be enabled. I'll post a video with the settings I used and which worked best. 4K Video Support and Use Camera2 API being the most important ones. There could be other settings which could improve the recording, but I like to stay on these stable settings, because I'm pleased with the results so far.
Here's the video with the settings needed in Snap Cam https://youtu.be/gRj9LhYWv5Y
Here's the first 4K video https://youtu.be/oQGc4gXnGU0
A test for auto-focus https://youtu.be/V41k21qKQpE
No EIS sample vs EIS https://youtu.be/_qNFNs2gq74 VS https://youtu.be/00J-3cAzLjg
I really hope it works for you as well, take care.
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Youtube removed the settings video, can you post it in text here? Or upload the video somewhere else? Thanks! Been looking for a solution to have 4k EIS and camera2 api for a long time since Open Camera didn't work anymore.
jmartinho said:
Youtube removed the settings video, can you post it in text here? Or upload the video somewhere else? Thanks! Been looking for a solution to have 4k EIS and camera2 api for a long time since Open Camera didn't work anymore.
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Please check back later, I appealed to the decision to remove my video. The video doesn't contain any scam or anything that may violate the community guidelines.
In the mean time I'll make the video available from google photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/AqZHZ9xMn4nSc9pv7
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Please check back later, I appealed to the decision to remove my video. The video doesn't contain any scam or anything that may violate the community guidelines.
In the mean time I'll make the video available from google photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/AqZHZ9xMn4nSc9pv7
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That worked great! Thanks!
Am running pixel experience 9.0. I want to use Google camera. Which should I download and how to enable camera2api?
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Please check back later, I appealed to the decision to remove my video. The video doesn't contain any scam or anything that may violate the community guidelines.
In the mean time I'll make the video available from google photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/AqZHZ9xMn4nSc9pv7
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Hi! Thanks for all the details. I am using the latest miui 10, and WITHOUT api2 turned on, I used hedge camera app, and the 4k eis was working fine, but phone was droping the frames / stuttering the recorded video, which is a bit annoying.
I tested your setup, and I can see that its better, but still sometimes I can see some dropped frames. It happen to you too?
Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
misiek735 said:
Hi! Thanks for all the details. I am using the latest miui 10, and WITHOUT api2 turned on, I used hedge camera app, and the 4k eis was working fine, but phone was droping the frames / stuttering the recorded video, which is a bit annoying.
I tested your setup, and I can see that its better, but still sometimes I can see some dropped frames. It happen to you too?
Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
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Yes, it happens to me as well, in the first 8 to 10 seconds, I think it's the cpu, it can't use EIS very well with 4K. Without EIS there are no dropped frames or stutter issues.
A suggestion would be to use a very fast micro sd card, haven't tested, but worth a try.
After about 4-5 minutes the phone gets quite warm and stutter is inevitable due to thermal throttling.
Flash this in TWRP to enable 4k recording in Google camera and other camera2 API-enabled apps
drive.google.com/open?id=1fRX0ASjOnsxbA0XAHOwkV_sz7TCV3dwg