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I'm a Galaxy user considering the G3. How good is LG at supporting their phones with firmware and upgrades?
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babyschmoof said:
I'm a Galaxy user considering the G3. How good is LG at supporting their phones with firmware and upgrades?
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I got 4.4.2 on my G2 before my wife got it on her HTC One M7.

Not good at all. Updates ones a year maybe

Better than they once were, but carriers like Verizon often slow it down anyways. Updates honestly aren't that big of a deal now though - not like in the beginning when a lot of apps weren't separated from the OS. I can't say the Kitkat update on my Note 2 really was a gotta have thing - the most noticeable difference is that I can no longer hide apps which imo is a bad thing.

You get fast update if you buy Korean version of G3.(F400S/K/L)
This is true experience from me.

I'd say LG and Sony are behind the rest in terms of updates.

[Q] LG G4 vs Samsung Galaxy S6

idk if this is the right place to ask. My apologies if it is. I'm looking for a new phone to get and well, like the title says, which one is the better bet? I think i should state which aspects of a phone are actually important to me and which are not. I don't really care much for the "premium feel in the hand" and I'd as easily take the g4 as I'd take an S6. I'd rather have the removable battery and the SD card slot but not having them isn't a deal breaker. Performance, well, is the most important part of the phone for not only me, and i don't think I'm wrong to say, everyone. I'm not going to mention the camera because from what I've heard, you can't go wrong with either one. Battery life isn't a big deal for me. I don't mind having to plug in the phone during the day. And the biggest of the bunch is the developer support. Let me just say this now, it is a MASSIVE deal for me. I would never buy a phone without knowing if it would have support from developers. I slap on CM as soon as i get a phone and i know that CM won't be available as the devices are quite new but as soon as they arrive, I'll be one of the firsts to flash them. I've had bad experiences with touchwiz in the past so I think the CM part was worth mentioning as S6 uses an exynos chipset and there has never been much development for exynos variants of samsung's previous phones. This phone is going to be a 2-4 year investment for me so i want to know which one will be the better phone. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask. Your opinions are very appreciated.

Get G4 with blind eye. You wont go wrong. As you say you are going to use it for long term, s6 battery is going to be dead and its hard to replace it. G4, got awesome camera. After a year or two if anything happen to battery (i bet it will not though) you can just get another one.
Performance is at best on G3 and G4 too. I wouldnt have switch to G4 if it didnt have best camera.
Lg is unlocking bootloaders themself, so sooner or later you will get root and all stuff. If you are out of space you can add as much as you can. Not like s6 , go on cloud or get another phone.

Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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il buono said:
My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.

@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.

bikrame said:
I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.
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Here's some sample screenshots of my battery life for both devices.
Galaxy S6
LG G4
Not the most detailed, but it gives you an idea of how long it lasts between charges and SOT. I have yet to own a Lollipop device with battery life that impresses me (including the Nexus 6). There are people out there with both devices that have reported better battery life and crazy SOT, but these are my usual results.
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@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.
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Basically my same experience with the performance. My S6 is running encrypted and it's still smoother than the G4. I wouldn't call the G4 laggy, but there's just something about the S6 that provides a better software experience.

Both are great devices depending on what you value more. I think s6 has higher chances to be future proof because it already got fingerprint reader and great processor, while g4 processor is already outdated from my point of view. Also s6 feels better built, overall more complete experience. I have both, my g4 sits on my desk.
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S6
Pros: speed, aesthetics, better software in general
Cons: Battery can be bad if not tuned right, WiFi isn't incredibly strong, storage can be an issue for some, camera images over-saturated and over-sharpened IMO
G4
Pros: Buttons on back (seriously, I kind of hate buttons on the side now. Subjective; YMMV), Better camera control, more ameliorating images, screen size, sd slot
Cons: Little bit thick & heavy, battery life could be better, squared edges are a bit unwieldy, software a bit clunky (but a huge improvement over the G3), somewhat sluggish compared to what a 2015 flagship should be

Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:

One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4? And will CM roms available for the S6 considering the Exynos processor?

NotAbdShahid said:
Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:
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Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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NotAbdShahid said:
One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4?
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That seems like a big "if", of course.
But, IF, and if the S6 also had SD, I would definitely consider it, personally.
Though the combination of a smallish battery that is also not replaceable kinda makes me nervous, even ignoring storage aspects. Batteries degrade with time, and I want to keep my new phone at least 2 years. So if battery life started out iffy, what will it be like in a year and a half?
The S6 Active would make me feel better, you're at least using a much larger battery.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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Dont have heating problems at all...
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Also it depends on the variant one is going to use. Out of the box Verizon's S6 has European LTE bands active and sim unlocked while the Verizon G4 only really has LTE bands for the Americas.
I probably would have gone with a European G4 to use on ATT as it has American and European bands but since I am stuck on Verizon the S6 made more sense. The S6 is fast and very smooth. Someone suggested it might be faster because it does not have to read and write to an external card.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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???
What heating problems?

@dontpannic In the sense that is getting hot with normal usage! At least mine does!
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@ione2380 I would be inclined to evaluate what apps you have installed/running - I got 4 hours of SOT yesterday with quite heavy use and the phone was still pretty cool. Warm on some more intensive things but not hot. My S4 was worse!

@dontpannic 10 minutes of pinterest or buzzfeed and it gets hot or downloding 2 bigger apps from playstore. I have just a couple of apps installed. Try playing plants vs. Zombies 2. My phone gets extremely hot after 5 min. of playing that game!
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Here is what I'd say based on my limited experience with G4 so far, if you want best camera currently in market and a very strong device with amazing app support. There is nothing better than G4 right now. Yes things will change in a year but by that time G5 may be out. So you never know. I've used iPhone from 4 to 5S. Moved to Lumia 1520 basically for camera. And now on G4 - primarily because of camera. Its solid device and don't forget to get 128GB Lexar microSD. It rocks this phone with performance.

Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...

Should I buy the LG G3?

Hi,
I am interested in buying the G3 for £200 (G4 too expensive) are there any major drawbacks or reasons why I shouldn't get it? I previously owned an LG Spirit 4G and LG G Pad 7 (still have it :victory both of which I liked but the Spirit 4G was a bit slow hence want to go for something better.
On a side note does the G3 have Glance View, double tap to wake...? And how are LG with updates for flagships, will Android 6.0 be the last, is firmware stable?
Thanks

ShinOrochiX said:
Hi,
I am interested in buying the G3 for £200 (G4 too expensive) are there any major drawbacks or reasons why I shouldn't get it? I previously owned an LG Spirit 4G and LG G Pad 7 (still have it :victory both of which I liked but the Spirit 4G was a bit slow hence want to go for something better.
On a side note does the G3 have Glance View, double tap to wake...? And how are LG with updates for flagships, will Android 6.0 be the last, is firmware stable?
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The G3 doesn't have glance view, but it does have double tap to wake, LG are good when it comes to releasing updates at least to it's flagships. I am on Marshmallow and it is a huge improvement in battery life, my phone was unplugged and sat in my pocket most of the time for 1hr and a half with the brief reading of some new articles and I have 0% battery loss. The UX is smoother. As for future updates who knows, the hardware is capable it just depends on LG's marketing of their future phones. At that price I would say go for it, if it were me the only keep back would be at this stage I would want a phone with a fingerprint reader.

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The G3 doesn't have glance view, but it does have double tap to wake, LG are good when it comes to releasing updates at least to it's flagships. I am on Marshmallow and it is a huge improvement in battery life, my phone was unplugged and sat in my pocket most of the time for 1hr and a half with the brief reading of some new articles and I have 0% battery loss. The UX is smoother. As for future updates who knows, the hardware is capable it just depends on LG's marketing of their future phones. At that price I would say go for it, if it were me the only keep back would be at this stage I would want a phone with a fingerprint reader.
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That sounds good. What I really love about LG is the features in the software (little things like the clip tray-does the G3 have that?). It would be nice to see what other people say as well-I want as much info as possible.

My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed

TheMadScientist420 said:
My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed
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Agreed - same here.
LG G2 and LG G3 was both very awesome phones, the Display is really High Quality and the best community

That's depend upon your needness.
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Battery Life?
How would you guys rate the battery life? I'm guessing it'd be the weakest point of the phone with the 2K display. Can you get a day out of it with moderate use?

I use for texting and light browsing atarting at. About 7 am til 5 pm then basicly wear it out on wifi games music web randoms sheet from there on out til about midnight and usally got about 20% left but im rooted fulmics stock based rom running xceed kernal also undervolted 10ma screen britness about 50% under auto britness getting 6 to 6.5 hours of total screen on time

Battery Life is not the strongest Part oft the G3.
With average usage and deactivated NFC/Bluetooth/GPS and Display on 100% Brightness (i like it very lighty, but i have readen in this forum the most users use the phone with less Brightness) i have to charge the phone every day at night, so i would say after a 12-13 hrs average usage its low. If the Brightness is lower maybe 15hrs. I wouldn't expact more, but nowadays you have more possibilities to charge (in the car, at the office, on the notebook) so its not very a big point for me personally.

TheMadScientist420 said:
My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed
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For previous stock-roms your issus are true. But the new MM-rom is the fastest, smothest, stablest and the one with the best battery live I ever had on this phone. :good:

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How would you guys rate the battery life? I'm guessing it'd be the weakest point of the phone with the 2K display. Can you get a day out of it with moderate use?
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Battery life is moderate on Lollipop, but I have Marshmallow for 3 days now and it has improved immensely, my phone was idle for 1hr & half and I experienced 0% battery loss

I love my G3 on Marshmallow. It is simply flying. LG has done a fantastic job. But honestly at this time (that is 2 years after release of the flagship) I will recommend you not to buy it. Don't misunderstand. Though it's an absolutely brilliant device, keeping future proofing in mind, I will suggest to wait for G4 prices to drop further or consider other options. Of course our xda community will keep on supporting this device for a long time. But AOSP lacks certain LG features like knock code, Stock Camera performance (certain apps come close) and battery life takes a hit. So considering all these factors, I will advise against buying a G3

ShinOrochiX said:
That sounds good. What I really love about LG is the features in the software (little things like the clip tray-does the G3 have that?). It would be nice to see what other people say as well-I want as much info as possible.
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Yes the G3 has the clipboard which I love, also little things like the caller app that pops up at the top without kicking you out of the app you were using, or how you can respond to text messages without leaving the screen you were in. The adjustable keyboard is awesome, and once rooted you can fix little issues like allowing all apps to function in dual screen mode

I cant wait for mm to be released for d850 att. I like. Cm back on my og evo4g but i dont seem to care for it im hoping fulmics will update to it soon but i stayed on kk til about 6 months ago
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Further i am personly waiting for the v10 price to drop but im in no hurry

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I love my G3 on Marshmallow. It is simply flying. LG has done a fantastic job. But honestly at this time (that is 2 years after release of the flagship) I will recommend you not to buy it. Don't misunderstand. Though it's an absolutely brilliant device, keeping future proofing in mind, I will suggest to wait for G4 prices to drop further or consider other options. Of course our xda community will keep on supporting this device for a long time. But AOSP lacks certain LG features like knock code, Stock Camera performance (certain apps come close) and battery life takes a hit. So considering all these factors, I will advise against buying a G3
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Hmmm I see what you mean. I actually never realised it is two years old, probably because it just turned 2016. I have been looking at the G4 but it is at least £270 (cheapest I have found), which isn't too bad but it is a bit high for me. But I am definitely keeping an eye on it. :cyclops:
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Yes the G3 has the clipboard which I love, also little things like the caller app that pops up at the top without kicking you out of the app you were using, or how you can respond to text messages without leaving the screen you were in. The adjustable keyboard is awesome, and once rooted you can fix little issues like allowing all apps to function in dual screen mode
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Yes! My LG Spirit 4G also had those features! This is why I am going for LG.

I bought D851 from ebay, and I find its very lagy (more evident when you play games - temple run e.g) and also i noticed web page loading is very slow (even on wifi) - I am comparing these parameters to Amazon firephone (which i find is way faster). Do you think it has something to do with this particular phone or it is general problem with this phone. I am thinking to return this phone.
thanks.
PS. did want to create another thread.

ethereal123 said:
I bought D851 from ebay, and I find its very lagy (more evident when you play games - temple run e.g) and also i noticed web page loading is very slow (even on wifi) - I am comparing these parameters to Amazon firephone (which i find is way faster). Do you think it has something to do with this particular phone or it is general problem with this phone. I am thinking to return this phone.
thanks.
PS. did want to create another thread.
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I never ended up buying the G3 (don't know what I was thinking), I have the OnePlus X which will receive android upgrades and has flagship specs. But from my experience with LG (mid range phone/tab) I would like to say that their UI is generally quite laggy and choppy hence it could be software?
I don't mean to criticise the G3 as it is a very good phone, but with the G5 around the corner (next month) it is not worth buying anymore.
@ ethereal123 I would return it if I were in your position.

LG G4 no software updates since january v20D ?

I have v20D and some people are getting v20e and even v20f .. But i have january v20d, that is oldd .. BIGG SHAME FOR LG..

first world problems?! OTA updates released in waves and vary from country to country. so wait or load and install the KDZ manually.
shame for lg? look at samsung for example, theyre update politics is a shame! keep calm and drink ur milk.

Spillunke said:
first world problems?! OTA updates released in waves and vary from country to country. so wait or load and install the KDZ manually.
shame for lg? look at samsung for example, theyre update politics is a shame! keep calm and drink ur milk.
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LG ruined G4 with marshmallow .. You should know that if you own an Lg g4 ... And i am stuck with v20d almost 4 months and yes, LG should be ashamed, they ruined a perfect smartphone

maybe lg ruins software on purpose so that we buy the new flagship phone, but yes they ruined the phone and we dont even get security patches... like i said thats my last lg i am ditching to the htc 10, if u guys got enough money then go for it. htc made a really nice phone
cheers

Why was g4 ruined with marshmallow?
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INFERNO997 said:
LG ruined G4 with marshmallow .. You should know that if you own an Lg g4 ... And i am stuck with v20d almost 4 months and yes, LG should be ashamed, they ruined a perfect smartphone
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This is wrong, they improved it. All you have to do is disable the logd process, which drains your battery like nothing else (or better use a proper kernel).

maumaumau said:
This is wrong, they improved it. All you have to do is disable the logd process, which drains your battery like nothing else (or better use a proper kernel).
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Exactly. I bought it recently and am happy with it. 4 hours of SOT and 20 hours of use.
But on three occasions the screen has done weird things. Once I had the notification LED flash but I fixed it by toggling a WiFi setting off and on.
I thought I was in the clear because it's a 602 model. Apparently not. I don't want to return and am itching to unlock that bootloader but afraid I need to test it for longer.

Waiting for 6.0.1
Should fix any bugs that are in 6.0

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Waiting for 6.0.1
Should fix any bugs that are in 6.0
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we probably never will get 6.0.1 because it should be only g5 firmware

LOL I have MM on my G4 v20e and its muuuuuuuuchhhh better than LP. In all ways

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we probably never will get 6.0.1 because it should be only g5 firmware
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18 months of support for a flagship.
We'll get 6.0.1. S6 got it recently.
N, now that is an open quesiton.

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18 months of support for a flagship.
We'll get 6.0.1.
N, now that is an open quesiton.
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they also promised MONTHLY security patches ....

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I have v20D and some people are getting v20e and even v20f .. But i have january v20d, that is oldd .. BIGG SHAME FOR LG..
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Buying a smartphone made by LG is a big big mistake.
G4 is my last LG smartphone forever.
I'm also sure in 100% that we will hear about some sort of "sudden death" is G5 as we heard it about G4 and the G3.
And don't forget that most of the countries haven't got Marshmallow for G3.. Sad, isn't it?
And one last thing - G5 suffers from poor battery life and bad performance compare to Galaxy S7 (with Snapdragon 820)

Al0n said:
Buying a smartphone made by LG is a big big mistake.
G4 is my last LG smartphone forever.
I'm also sure in 100% that we will hear about some sort of "sudden death" is G5 as we heard it about G4 and the G3.
And don't forget that most of the countries haven't got Marshmallow for G3.. Sad, isn't it?
And one last thing - G5 suffers from poor battery life and bad performance compare to Galaxy S7 (with Snapdragon 820)
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On all benchmarks G5 score higher than S7 so I think You are wrong. Battery maybe yes cause its a 2800mah.. so no comparison with S7 edge.
I got the G4 and its perfect. no issues at all. 10 month with it.

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and the latest MM update is on what ?
i dunno since i'm on L and its patched for stage fright which is good enough for me.
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Al0n said:
Buying a smartphone made by LG is a big big mistake.
G4 is my last LG smartphone forever.
I'm also sure in 100% that we will hear about some sort of "sudden death" is G5 as we heard it about G4 and the G3.
And don't forget that most of the countries haven't got Marshmallow for G3.. Sad, isn't it?
And one last thing - G5 suffers from poor battery life and bad performance compare to Galaxy S7 (with Snapdragon 820)
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Best choice last year. Given the price its going for now, it still remains an excellent choice.
Battery is about management. You compare a sealed battery to replaceable ? how did you do that. Need more battery use a second. Don't have this battery pack attached to it.
After one year how long will battery last on S7 with all this fancy quick charge. You do use your phone for more than one year yes ? No problems with an LG.
This thread reminds me of sammy users whining how they did not get MM when we got it a couple of months earlier. Big deal. They finally got it, their battery improved and now they are quiet.
So now LG users are crying they did not get any more update. Such BS!
I like to be 6 months behind latest update. All apps work better this way as app developers had time to fix bugs and update. Everything more stable. No surprises. Use the phone, don't spend half your life trying to figure out why its not working right.

On 20f and everything fine, how do you disable logd? And what does it do?

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and the latest MM update is on what ?
i dunno since i'm on L and its patched for stage fright which is good enough for me.
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Best choice last year. Given the price its going for now, it still remains an excellent choice.
Battery is about management. You compare a sealed battery to replaceable ? how did you do that. Need more battery use a second. Don't have this battery pack attached to it.
After one year how long will battery last on S7 with all this fancy quick charge. You do use your phone for more than one year yes ?
No problems with an LG.
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I had G3 for almost a year and a half and now I have G4 for almost a year. You can't compare ~9 hours of screen on time in the S7 against ~5 hours of screen on time in the G5.
You do right about the quick charge, but G5 has the same quick charge technology which means the battery life is short on the G5 also.
I have second battery and charging kit which I never used because who wants to carry around everywhere a battery?

9 hours? 5 hours? Where did you find this numbers?
Stay Classy San Diego

So guys its not about numbers its about expectation. Take me as a consumer. I buy a flagship device a premium device for a premium Price. So i want the phone to hold long and get updated like promised and get bugfixed if bugs appear. Its not like.u buying a cheap phone. There are people like me who paid 699€ for this phone. I got it right at the start. And to be fair ll was great and mm is the opposite. And they dont do anything against weird battery drain logd and heating. Instead people who never heard of xda(like me) have to search and read several threads on how to dosabling it. If u pay a high price, then u want a flawless running device. We did not get that and thats the reason why this is my last lg device. Samsung did evrything right So htc does atm and i am even considering to ditch over to apple...

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9 hours? 5 hours? Where did you find this numbers?
Stay Classy San Diego
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For S7 Edge Exynos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65812237&postcount=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65823463&postcount=11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65823864&postcount=12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65823887&postcount=13
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65854677&postcount=22
For G5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66565023&postcount=2