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Whats up with the 1230 mAH battery? even worse than the one on the desire? i realize this new cpu uses less power, but still they should have gone with an 1500 mAh battery to have decent battery life :/ im worried they sacrificed battery life to built a slimmer device
Is the screen regular lcd os super lcd?
Why did they remove the kickstand and the hdmi port?
so everybody loved every inch of the desire hd? no complaints?
I personally would wait for reviews before passing any judgement. Looking at specs alone can be deceiving.
Just a few weeks ago, people were complaining about the 800mhz cpu in the G2/DesireZ. But benchmarks show that it's just as fast, if not faster, than the 1ghz cpu in the Desire and Nexus One.
I agree with with the OP i was all set to pre order the Desire HD until i saw it had a smaller battery, HTC claim the new CPU etc requires a lot less power but i`ll hold on until people tell us what its like in the real world.
Well I like it for the SIZE...... and comes with FROYOOo.... The specs and the initial benchmarks tell the CPU is faster and the GPU is lil bit faster than the Galaxy S. We will wait and see.
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Well I like it for the SIZE
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have you used the phone yet or anything similar?
after my Touch HD i got the HD2 and it is HUGE, didnt feel right in my hand at all. sent it back and got a desire instead, so im not thinking i will like the desire HD
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have you used the phone yet or anything similar?
after my Touch HD i got the HD2 and it is HUGE, didnt feel right in my hand at all. sent it back and got a desire instead, so im not thinking i will like the desire HD
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Agreed, a step too far in terms of size
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I personally would wait for reviews before passing any judgement. Looking at specs alone can be deceiving.
Just a few weeks ago, people were complaining about the 800mhz cpu in the G2/DesireZ. But benchmarks show that it's just as fast, if not faster, than the 1ghz cpu in the Desire and Nexus One.
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i know , btw i didnt complain with about the desire z cou haha , but what bugs me is that ok the new cpu might consume less, but take advantage of that an include the same battery as before to get BETTER battery life instead of trying to maintain the same crappy battery life
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i know , btw i didnt complain with about the desire z cou haha , but what bugs me is that ok the new cpu might consume less, but take advantage of that an include the same battery as before to get BETTER battery life instead of trying to maintain the same crappy battery life
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Yes, you didn't complain about the CPU. What I was trying to say is that you're complaining about a piece of hardware based on specs, just like how others were complaining about the 800mhz CPU previously.
My point is to just wait for the reviews. It could be that the battery life will last you a day and a half with heavy use. If that's the case, then there's no point in HTC slapping on a larger battery.
My opinion is battery life is the next big hurdle to overcome in terms of smartphones and I have to say I agree with the comments made along the lines of, where the battery is concerned, bigger is better.
It would be nice to go away for a few days without having to add to clean socks, skids and toilet bag, a mobile phone charger lol
unplug your pc and see how long that lasts?
These smart phones are mini computers ... and as such it's not suprising that you have to plug it in all the time ...
Look at the ATOM CPU... smaller CPU was ment for netbooks...
We have an evan smaller CPU .. ment for our " phones"
I agree with the comments and being an ex-user of HD2 which uses the same battery, the battery life really sucks as it will only last half a day when you have a lot of calls or sms.
What's the point of having a good specs smartphone but the battery cannot even last with such lithium ion, 1230mah battery since the size of the phone is so big?
In terms of sound and camera quality, HTC is still not good at these area no doubt they are in the smart phone market for many years than other manufacturers but their technology is still not as good.
Even if the firmware support is good but there is a limit with the hardware they have.
Just my sharing.
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I'm a desire owner, personally I think the HD is just too big,hence for a second phone, I have the x10 mini pro,perfect for making all my calls and texts , whilst I use my desire for all surfing needs.....
Desire white does look soooo sexy though!
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i know , btw i didnt complain with about the desire z cou haha , but what bugs me is that ok the new cpu might consume less, but take advantage of that an include the same battery as before to get BETTER battery life instead of trying to maintain the same crappy battery life
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I completely agree with you. Keeping the same battery + Better efficiency = Incredible battery life. I don't see why they would want to make it the same or "around" the same as the other handsets ??
What i care about battery, most stupidest and annoying design flaw is PUT ONLY 512mb rom to phone. Only ~40mb is left for all applications, mail cache, facebook & twitter & so on work memory (most of rom is used for android&sense&so on basic phone installation that you cannot modify without root). When free memory drops to 16mb, low memory warning is displayed and after that you cannot install any application, get updates and gmail sync is not working. so between 40mb and 16mb is 24mb cap available to use. Way too little!
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What i care about battery, most stupidest and annoying design flaw is PUT ONLY 512mb rom to phone. Only ~40mb is left for all applications, mail cache, facebook & twitter & so on work memory (most of rom is used for android&sense&so on basic phone installation that you cannot modify without root). When free memory drops to 16mb, low memory warning is displayed and after that you cannot install any application, get updates and gmail sync is not working. so between 40mb and 16mb is 24mb cap available to use. Way too little!
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Yea unfortunately, I find that to take advantage of android to its absolute fullest, you have to root.
@chong
I have to counter your experience of the hd2 batt time. I easely cram over 15 hours from my hd2 - even if I run android.
I agree though that the 'out of the box' batt time is to low on most smartphones - but then again, most people doesn't seem to bother - iphone for example is terrible on batt time.
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I was expecting a lot more improvements from Desire HD versus the Desire.
Like:
- Higher resolution of the screen. It's 4.3 but the same resolution as the Desire, so you will end up with bigger pixels.
- Front facing camera. Facetime like experience is kinda girlie thingy, but actually ended up wanting this for example when you are on a long trip and you want to see your family.
- A faster processor - why not 1.2GHz?
- A kick stand, like the HTC Evo. Ended up wanting one of those while trying to watch some episodes of Friends on the plane. I had to hold the phone all the time - kinda frustrating.
At the end since it does not have higher specs compared to the Desire and since I swap my HD2, first because of Android, second because of the huge brick that I had to carry around, so I'm sticking with the Desire 1st gen.
why does everything has to be 4.3 inchs, I would love to see a better screen then an iphone 4G, and a tegra 2 Chip be awesome.
Think I'll lay off the Desire HD and Desire Z for now. There's not much noticeable improvement from our Desires. I'll wait for HTC's next big announcement
Should I return my 16gb G3 and buy a 32gb G2 to save some money and have better battery life? The battery sucks on G3 with quad hd and is difficult to see and difference in the screen resolution. Any comments would help me make up my mind. Thanks
I have only had the 32gb for 1 day but i do know the 32gb has 3 gigs of ram instead of the 16's 2 gigs. The first tmobile store ONLY had 16 gb's so i went to a diff store and got a 32
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Should I return my 16gb G3 and buy a 32gb G2 to save some money and have better battery life? The battery sucks on G3 with quad hd and is difficult to see and difference in the screen resolution. Any comments would help me make up my mind. Thanks
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You are not likely to go from using a word like (suck) to use a word like fantastic, in regards of better battery from G2 over G3.
Because its the same battery. I assume the difference between the two phones is mostly visible in SOT (Screen on time)
I do not like to settle mid-range. I'm more likely to sell my G3 and buy a firstgen smartphone (android or iphone) just a phone that will get me through the day. I was surprised how little was necessary for me: wating for my G3 I was using a htc sense, slow but hey it worked. I kept thinking, do we really need all this. Some where along the road a new phone will pop up aswell, that's why it's a wise choice to settle with a phone that you don't depend on to sell before buying a new one, or signing up on a new contract.
There's a huge debate on this topic or there could be. Psychological side-effects from stacking need upon requirements. Leat's not go into that now
If you were to get a G2, you'd have to want the ekstra money and probably use them wisely or not use them at all. How much can you save? It should be atleats 100£ imho.
32 gb one is awesome
I've got the 2/16 GB model of the G3, and I personally love it. After upgrading to firmware 10J from 10F, I saw a huge improvement in battery performance and drainage. For me it lasts an extra few hours after getting some basic settings tweaked like turning off NFC/Bluetooth, and having WiFi disabled when it's not in use. Also another thing to do is to stop WiFi from searching for other networks automatically.
So far with this setup, I'm getting through a full day and well into the night till I put it back on charge. I have battery saver to enable once it hits 10 percent. I'm going to check out DS Battery Saver tomorrow and try that for a week as apparently it gives about another hour from what I've read.
My usage tends to be all the social sites, FB, Gram, Snap, etc pretty much throughout the day with a few hours of Youtube at night and lots of picture taking.
I wouldn't go back to the G2, OP. Tweak your G3, disable a few things and wait for the new firmware release.
Thanks to all who replied so far. I'm still inside my 14 day return window and having owned a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx for the passed few years it's difficult to move away from a phone that lasts 12 hours plus with heavy usage. It always surprises me how the Razr maxx 3300 mAh is never compared with the new phones concerning battery life. I may even just stay with my Moto?
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I've got the 2/16 GB model of the G3, and I personally love it. After upgrading to firmware 10J from 10F, I saw a huge improvement in battery performance and drainage. For me it lasts an extra few hours after getting some basic settings tweaked like turning off NFC/Bluetooth, and having WiFi disabled when it's not in use. Also another thing to do is to stop WiFi from searching for other networks automatically.
So far with this setup, I'm getting through a full day and well into the night till I put it back on charge. I have battery saver to enable once it hits 10 percent. I'm going to check out DS Battery Saver tomorrow and try that for a week as apparently it gives about another hour from what I've read.
My usage tends to be all the social sites, FB, Gram, Snap, etc pretty much throughout the day with a few hours of Youtube at night and lots of picture taking.
I wouldn't go back to the G2, OP. Tweak your G3, disable a few things and wait for the new firmware release.
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Keep in mind you're comparing a phone of a previous generation ( therefore less power consuming hardware ) and it also has a larger battery capacity. Most of the smart phones, even high end ones are between 2800 - 3000 mAh. If you were to put in a larger capacity battery into my G3, I could see it lasting 12 hours of usage.
Hi guys,
My GF needs a new phone. G3 looks like an awesome phone on paper. But browsing forums I see people complaining of phone slowing down after a few minutes of usage to almost a crawl. Is it a real issue? Does flashing to CM/Vanilla android fix the issue?
When using the phone non stop how long will each battery last? Will 2 batteries last for the entire day browsing over LTE? i.e. if each battery drains in 4 hours, then answer is no if you commute.
I've never experienced the slowdown you described. The device has 3GB of RAM, so either those cases were by people who were maxing out the memory by never closing apps, or they were lying. As for battery, I am averaging about 30 hours per charge with 3 hours of screen on time. I don't take any precautions to save battery (Greenify, turning off wifi/data when not in use, power save for anything other than when my phone drops below 15%). This has been my absolute favorite Android phone to date and I've owned it since Day 1.
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2GB ram version received some complaints early on...
Lollipop 5.0 has greatly increased performance and once you debloat it, its really a great phone. My 3GB D850 is lag-free and great battery life. very few phones left that come with manageable size at 5.5", sdcard, and removable battery.
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2GB ram version received some complaints early on...
Lollipop 5.0 has greatly increased performance and once you debloat it, its really a great phone. My 3GB D850 is lag-free and great battery life. very few phones left that come with manageable size at 5.5", sdcard, and removable battery.
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Thanks guys! Any recomendations on debloat? CM? Vanilla Android? Google Play edition rom?
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Thanks guys! Any recomendations on debloat? CM? Vanilla Android? Google Play edition rom?
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Hey dude,
Still very happy with my G3, stock rom can get a tiny bit laggy when doing heavy stuff, debloating is just getting rid of the stuff on there you dont need/use - i used systemappremover.
Installing another launcher can work really well too, i tired 6-7 launchers and tested all for speed and found Nova launcher to be the best of the bunch.
Im also running ChupaChup rom 4.2, its based on stock but has been debloated and tweaked, amazing rom.
Good luck.
I found that even without root and custom rom just changing launchers made a huge difference to improve any lag. Overall not bad at all.
Hope I'm posting this on the right place, missed it and was told by an ad where to place last questions when I asked about another phone.... but of course I can't remember what he told me back then :silly:
Anyway, how is the battery life on a G4? From tech blogs to youtube reviews, opinions are all over the place. Some people say 2 and something SOT. Others claim it's great and that they can go a full day with heavy use and 3d gaming, etc and report over 5 hours SOT with that sort of use.
I loved my G2 for a long time because of how well it battery would last. It's not very good anymore, it went through a lot of charging cycles... Hardware and specs are enough for me, so I don't need the 820 on the G5 nor am I feeling the love for that phone from what I've seen. Especially for the difference on price the two will have and the bargain price one can get some places for a G4.
GSM Arena tools tell me the endurance batery test for the G2 is 81h, a terrible 54h on the G4. Web browsing (more the sort of load I tend to pull from a battery when it comes to SOT) gives it a much more bleak picture: 11:24 for the G2 and only 7:54 for the G4.
Should I trust these numbers? Is the G4 such a power hoarder? Are the different numbers I come across because of some version with or without some update that improved/made things worst?
I'm referring to a non-branded G4, international version. Opinions from real life users would be much appreciated!
Cheers! :good:
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Hope I'm posting this on the right place, missed it and was told by an ad where to place last questions when I asked about another phone.... but of course I can't remember what he told me back then :silly:
Anyway, how is the battery life on a G4? From tech blogs to youtube reviews, opinions are all over the place. Some people say 2 and something SOT. Others claim it's great and that they can go a full day with heavy use and 3d gaming, etc and report over 5 hours SOT with that sort of use.
I loved my G2 for a long time because of how well it battery would last. It's not very good anymore, it went through a lot of charging cycles... Hardware and specs are enough for me, so I don't need the 820 on the G5 nor am I feeling the love for that phone from what I've seen. Especially for the difference on price the two will have and the bargain price one can get some places for a G4.
GSM Arena tools tell me the endurance batery test for the G2 is 81h, a terrible 54h on the G4. Web browsing (more the sort of load I tend to pull from a battery when it comes to SOT) gives it a much more bleak picture: 11:24 for the G2 and only 7:54 for the G4.
Should I trust these numbers? Is the G4 such a power hoarder? Are the different numbers I come across because of some version with or without some update that improved/made things worst?
I'm referring to a non-branded G4, international version. Opinions from real life users would be much appreciated!
Cheers! :good:
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I have had a g4 for about 2 weeks and i want my g3 back even it seemed better on power than this. My g2 was pbenominal even acter 1.5 years old. This thing but i only have root no bootloader unlock no custom roms or kernals
I made that jump last week.
The G2 was an excellent phone.
The G3 didn't seem like much to me, and I couldn't understand the battery drop-off.
I'm loving the G4, the camera's excellent and the battery life, though not as good as the G2 is not bad at all.
So already I have two different experiences... one that the G3 is better than the G4, another the exact opposite Why is there such a discrepant experience? I know about low signal and constant scanning but I assume those two members above are using their phones on the same region/places/ways...
My G2 battery life is better than G4 at first. Then I turned off two cores in my G4, disabled some settings, and everything seems great now. Good battery life.
Today's battery life on my G4 H815,MM 20d,unlocked bootloader+root+Xposed+Greenify
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So already I have two different experiences... one that the G3 is better than the G4, another the exact opposite Why is there such a discrepant experience? I know about low signal and constant scanning but I assume those two members above are using their phones on the same region/places/ways...
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I had my g3 modded out the gills. Undervolted all linds done bare minimal stock system i could get almost 2 days of moderate usage 6 to 8 bours sot. G4 i love the camera still expiermenting. Im rooted ive managed a few tweaks but not scare of bricking just hate to have to start over. Want over clock undervolt and id be happy. Just knowing i got a locled tight bootloader urks me the most. Its a great phone. Would prefer my g2 over 3 or 4 untill bootloader gets unlocked. I have a lotta quirks on mine i could fix. The battery seems to stay full untill about 12 or 1 then drops at about 1 percent every 3 or 4 min. So i charge off and on throug the day so when i home at night itll make it to bed with like 35 or 40 left
Well, those numbers posted look better than my G2 ever was. But I'm also seeing there's a lot of customization involved to unlock the potential of the phone. Is that why people are reporting such major differences? I must be getting way too old as I no longer find it fun to mess around with phones and PCs, I just want something that works and gets updates that make it better... NO!! This doesn't mean I should go with an Iphone!!
More of a general question... could it be worth keeping the G2 until these new midrange phones with the SD650 or 652 (something like that) start to pop up? I mean, they'll be more powerful than the G2 and probably as cheap or cheaper than a G4. I'm thinking about phones like the Idol 4S.
I've been away from the smartphone market for a long time and I'm having a real hard time catching up. Samsung seems to have turned into some sort of Apple where you pay for the "prestige" of the brand. Motorola has a couple interesting phones but apparently the new Lenovo owner is going to end the brand and I have no idea if that means support. And then these new Chinese phones seem interesting and apparently have good support... Lenovo, Huawei, Xiaomi, etc.
Point being, new midrange is pretty much flagship to my sort of use! It's hard for me to figure out if I even need a new phone! But I would hate to lose the buttons on the back, something that I think only LG owners would get
@Kutusov having read the above, I would seriously recommend the G4.
It's cheap (actually very well priced), still be cheaper as soon as the G5 is released, it's an excellent phone with a FANTASTIC camera.
And it's got the back buttons. In a very short time you'll understand just how far phones have moved in such a short time.
The G2 was spectacular in it's time.
The G3 was refinement but rough.
The G4 blows it away.
Made the jump from the G2 to the G4 a year ago, not disappointed at all
Battery life difference is roughly ~30 minutes worth of screen on time, with the G2 edging out ahead, everything else is just hands down better on the G4 ( excluding the rear facing speaker -_- )
So I'd say go for it, phone's pretty cheap now.
You'll get different results from everyone as we each use our phones differently, different apps and priorities.
If you have social media constantly updating and play 3d games you will need to carry a charger with you, it won't make it through a whole day.
I've disabled most of the bloat, use greenify and get upto 5hrs SOT when reading an ebook from the SD card, but only 3hrs when browsing on mobile data.
Overall I'm very happy with the G4, it would have been even better without the useless 4k screen but there's always a compromise.
I've had the G4 since July 2015 and I'm satisfied with battery consumption(Canadian H812 variant). Not rooted. I disable apps I don't use, installed Lux to control brightness & GPS is only ever used when I need it (rarely).
Per gsam app, averages since last complete charge:
Battery life: 1d 16.9hrs
Screen on: 5hr 48mins
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I didn't have the G2, but I'll speak for the G4: the battery is OK.
I usually recharge every 2 days with a normal use (internet surfing, music, watch an episode of a series in the bus, watch the time,...)
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@Kutusov having read the above, I would seriously recommend the G4.
It's cheap (actually very well priced), still be cheaper as soon as the G5 is released, it's an excellent phone with a FANTASTIC camera.
And it's got the back buttons. In a very short time you'll understand just how far phones have moved in such a short time.
The G2 was spectacular in it's time.
The G3 was refinement but rough.
The G4 blows it away.
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Made the jump from the G2 to the G4 a year ago, not disappointed at all
Battery life difference is roughly ~30 minutes worth of screen on time, with the G2 edging out ahead, everything else is just hands down better on the G4 ( excluding the rear facing speaker -_- )
So I'd say go for it, phone's pretty cheap now.
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Yes, I'll probably go for it. I've seen it somewhere for €330, brand new and sealed, same price no matter what sort of back cover.
I really do like the back buttons, I always go looking for them when I pick some other phone, I would really miss those.
Cheers guys! :highfive:
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You'll get different results from everyone as we each use our phones differently, different apps and priorities.
If you have social media constantly updating and play 3d games you will need to carry a charger with you, it won't make it through a whole day.
I've disabled most of the bloat, use greenify and get upto 5hrs SOT when reading an ebook from the SD card, but only 3hrs when browsing on mobile data.
Overall I'm very happy with the G4, it would have been even better without the useless 4k screen but there's always a compromise.
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I've had the G4 since July 2015 and I'm satisfied with battery consumption(Canadian H812 variant). Not rooted. I disable apps I don't use, installed Lux to control brightness & GPS is only ever used when I need it (rarely).
Per gsam app, averages since last complete charge:
Battery life: 1d 16.9hrs
Screen on: 5hr 48mins
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Oh, missed both your posts, sorry! Thanks also!
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My G2 battery life is better than G4 at first. Then I turned off two cores in my G4, disabled some settings, and everything seems great now. Good battery life.
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How did ya disable the big cores?
The only solution I found was a script.
With the custom Kernels I tried they always turned themself back on. But its been a while since I tried one.
And you get the battery life that you can expect from a 3000mah battery with an 5.5" screen at 1440p.
i would like to get one but not until if ever gets bootloader unlocked for US.
i was on a G2 and bought a G4, the battery life is not bad, but the G2 was way better, but, we are talking about a 1080p screen and a QHD screen...there are no miracles ! I am very happy whit my G4, takes very good pictures and for me, the battery gives "juce" for a day, watching movies/series going to the WEB (3G / 3.5G) but i just turn the data when i want, at home, always with the WiFi turn on, so, i wake up at 6:00AM and i get at home at 6:00PM and i still have 40% our 30%.
For me, this is a very good phone !
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i was on a G2 and bought a G4, the battery life is not bad, but the G2 was way better, but, we are talking about a 1080p screen and a QHD screen...there are no miracles ! I am very happy whit my G4, takes very good pictures and for me, the battery gives "juce" for a day, watching movies/series going to the WEB (3G / 3.5G) but i just turn the data when i want, at home, always with the WiFi turn on, so, i wake up at 6:00AM and i get at home at 6:00PM and i still have 40% our 30%.
For me, this is a very good phone !
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Yes, that's more or less my sort of use also. I know that LG wanted to come out with a very good panel to demolish the usually praised amoled from Samsung but it sort of sucks that they did. I have no use for it, maybe it's good for this new VR thing but that's something I'm not even curious to try.
Still, it has the quickest charge possible... swapping batteries
guys i know theres lemon battery. but isnt there like an aftermarket one that will fit like normal but higher mah?
Does it tick anyone off that Google put a 'SD821' in your phone, downclocked it to exact SD820 speeds, then sells it as a SD821? The difference between the two is that Qualcomm essentially overclocked the SD820 and called it the SD821 as the two have the same architecture. Then Google apparently downclocks them back down to stock speed and still calls them the Pro chip? Sounds like false advertising that they got around by advertising the downclocked speeds. They knew most customers just care that 821 is bigger than 820, as they don't pay attention the the real tech specs. The SD821 does offer better power consumption efficiency and downclocking will make that actually show, but when the battery easily lasts more than all day, I would rather have the performance increase, but maybe that is just me.
Most customers are checking the chip model? I think not!
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Google didn't "downclock" the 821. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that is clocked higher and one that is more battery efficient.
http://www.xda-developers.com/a-loo...he-snapdragon-821-in-the-google-pixel-phones/
It's not false advertising. Its an ill informed consumer.
+1 to dbrohers comment.
Further.....this is the smoothest performing phone and great battery life. I would rather keep it as is with a lower clock speed.
I don't think Google was concerned with drag racing against other phones in benchmarks. They went for popular vote of a smooth experience with great battery life.
This was known before the phone was even released. It's a non-issue. Are you having performance issues with the phone?
Most likely both versions of the 821's are just high binned 820's. When they fab chips on a wafer the ones closest to the middle generally can hit higher clocks with lower power. So they probably have been holding back the best ones since the beginning and waiting until the fall to release them as the 821.
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Google didn't "downclock" the 821. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that is clocked higher and one that is more battery efficient.
http://www.xda-developers.com/a-loo...he-snapdragon-821-in-the-google-pixel-phones/
It's not false advertising. Its an ill informed consumer.
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Okay so Google opted for a 5% battery gain instead of a 10% performance gain? I'm glad I chose the latter.
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This was known before the phone was even released. It's a non-issue. Are you having performance issues with the phone?
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I don't have the phone, just wondering about perspective from the owners of the phone. I have the Zenfone 3 Special Edition and love everything about it. The Pixel XL had me strongly considering it because of the software update benefits, however it just fell short in too many areas hardware wise.
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+1 to dbrohers comment.
Further.....this is the smoothest performing phone and great battery life. I would rather keep it as is with a lower clock speed.
I don't think Google was concerned with drag racing against other phones in benchmarks. They went for popular vote of a smooth experience with great battery life.
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They went for battery life over smoothest performance. Granted that at these speeds general performance differences will be almost indistinguishable, but when they choose to go with the slower version, they are not choosing smoothest performance. I do not doubt the performance is butter smooth, especially on Nougat, but 'smoothest' performance would've come from the faster clocked SD821.
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I don't have the phone, just wondering about perspective from the owners of the phone. I have the Zenfone 3 Special Edition and love everything about it. The Pixel XL had me strongly considering it because of the software update benefits, however it just fell short in too many areas hardware wise.
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Gotcha. Well, the phone is absolutely buttery smooth. The camera is epic. The battery life is incredible. The only thing I miss really is the water proof thing I had with the note 7. And the S pen. I miss my pen.
The user experience is perfect for me. They got the speed and efficiency balance spot on.
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They went for battery life over smoothest performance. Granted that at these speeds general performance differences will be almost indistinguishable, but when they choose to go with the slower version, they are not choosing smoothest performance. I do not doubt the performance is butter smooth, especially on Nougat, but 'smoothest' performance would've come from the faster clocked SD821.
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Wait....so you decided to start a thread in the Pixel forums challenging the performance characteristics of the phone that you don't even own one? lol
The difference in clock speed relative to it scrolling through the app drawer, or between home screens might make a .01 millisecond difference?
You could also buy an unlocked version and I am sure there is someone who will modify the kernal for the higher clock speed.
iceman4357 said:
Wait....so you decided to start a thread in the Pixel forums challenging the performance characteristics of the phone that you don't even own one? lol
The difference in clock speed relative to it scrolling through the app drawer, or between home screens might make a .01 millisecond difference?
You could also buy an unlocked version and I am sure there is someone who will modify the kernal for the higher clock speed.
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I wasn't challenging anything. I was asking what people thought of it as it was my runner up phone. I simply wanted to know how it panned out and what people thought of the thing that turned me away from it. The pixel section isn't exclusively for Pixel owners bud.
I wasn't even worried about the speed of doing menial tasks such as scrolling through the app drawer, I was wondering about app launch speed and performance of the most demanding games down the road. Home launcher performance is a pretty weak measuring stick for performance. Having said that, as much as I love this ZenUI3.0, I wonder if the Pixel Launcher is somehow better, if that is even possible, simply because Google coded the OS and the app which gives them a huge advantage. I will have to reserve judgement until I get a chance to play with a Pixel though. On the flip side, ZENUI3.0 might be better as it is a perfect experience and this is Google's first go at a custom launcher (though I doubt that kept them from making something exquisite). Regardless, I'm not asking about opinions on the Launcher as it is subjective and it won't tell me anything. I wanted to know if people would've rather seen the higher performance or the battery. I have the higher performance version and my phone has a smaller battery than the Pixel's but my battery lasts a lot more than the day long expectation I have. So I wonder why Google felt they needed better battery life because if my battery lasts a crazy long time, the Pixels would naturally last longer. It just feels like you didn't need more battery life but every phone could always use more performance. I presume your phone keeps charge for two full days. Do you really feel your phone benefits from that 5% battery life boost when you could've had 10% performance boost instead? (Performance that would come in handy, especially when driving that QHD display on High end VR Games down the road). The choice just doesn't make sense to me from Google's standpoint, so I figured I would find out how the owners of the phone felt about it.
Btw, I don't put custom ROMs on my devices anymore unless it is absolutely necessary. I've rarely seen a good one and still not as smooth as stock android.
All i know is my Pixel user experience is much better than my Note7. Speed feels on a whole different level. And battery seems much better.
But alot of that i think is samsungs junkware. It was always running like 20% cpu just being idle. Where i catch my pixel chillin at 0% alot of times
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juliend said:
Gotcha. Well, the phone is absolutely buttery smooth. The camera is epic. The battery life is incredible. The only thing I miss really is the water proof thing I had with the note 7. And the S pen. I miss my pen.
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Yeah waterproofing would've been awesome. The SPen is cool but I personally never used it. My finger works just fine and it would take me longer to pull the pen out and I don't do any note taking. I didn't have the note 7 though so I am ignorant on some of the SPen features it had. I really want to get my hands on a Pixel XL and see how Google did first hand. I personally hate Apple as a company and was hoping the Pixel would get some of the ignorant iPhone users to switch to Android. Most will just keep blindly buying Apple though. I think Daydream VR could possibly be flashy enough for them to consider switching though.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
I wasn't challenging anything. I was asking what people thought of it as it was my runner up phone. I simply wanted to know how it panned out and what people thought of the thing that turned me away from it. The pixel section isn't exclusively for Pixel owners bud.
I wasn't even worried about the speed of doing menial tasks such as scrolling through the app drawer, I was wondering about app launch speed and performance of the most demanding games down the road. Home launcher performance is a pretty weak measuring stick for performance. Having said that, as much as I love this ZenUI3.0, I wonder if the Pixel Launcher is somehow better, if that is even possible, simply because Google coded the OS and the app which gives them a huge advantage. I will have to reserve judgement until I get a chance to play with a Pixel though. On the flip side, ZENUI3.0 might be better as it is a perfect experience and this is Google's first go at a custom launcher (though I doubt that kept them from making something exquisite). Regardless, I'm not asking about opinions on the Launcher as it is subjective and it won't tell me anything. I wanted to know if people would've rather seen the higher performance or the battery. I have the higher performance version and my phone has a smaller battery than the Pixel's but my battery lasts a lot more than the day long expectation I have. So I wonder why Google felt they needed better battery life because if my battery lasts a crazy long time, the Pixels would naturally last longer. It just feels like you didn't need more battery life but every phone could always use more performance. I presume your phone keeps charge for two full days. Do you really feel your phone benefits from that 5% battery life boost when you could've had 10% performance boost instead? (Performance that would come in handy, especially when driving that QHD display on High end VR Games down the road). The choice just doesn't make sense to me from Google's standpoint, so I figured I would find out how the owners of the phone felt about it.
Btw, I don't put custom ROMs on my devices anymore unless it is absolutely necessary. I've rarely seen a good one and still not as smooth as stock android.
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To me personally this phone does miss a beat. If you're worried about performance don't be. I haven't had a single moment where my phone slows down or freezes or anything. Ive had it down to 475mb of ram once. And this thing never slowed down. The speed stayed the same. But that's just from personal experience. So those are my 2 cents. ????
Xt51 said:
To me personally this phone does miss a beat. If you're worried about performance don't be. I haven't had a single moment where my phone slows down or freezes or anything. Ive had it down to 475mb of ram once. And this thing never slowed down. The speed stayed the same. But that's just from personal experience. So those are my 2 cents. ????
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Obviously you meant to say, "To me personally this phone does NOT miss a beat."
Not worried about general performance, I knew that would be fantastic regardless of the SD821 they chose. I mean Google coded the Pixel end to end and regardless of which version of the CPU they decided to use, it was going to run butter no matter what. Just to me, when your battery is already leaving you wonder if you will ever need to charge it again, then 10% performance gain is more valuable to me than 5% battery. To some, that 5% battery might be better if they will never game. For me, I want to put VR games on it that will push it to its limits. I just wish they would've come out with two versions and given the consumer the choice. I really wanted to be first in line for updates, but it's okay I love my phone.
Have any of you tried out Daydream VR yet?
Eh....phone is butter....battery is butter...don't give a hoot about 0.1 of a clock speed difference....don't care about benchmarks...don't care if the phone does happen to jank on a game because more than likely it'll be a poorly coded one. Remember, not all stuttering is because of a phone's specs. Sometimes people just suck at coding.
Trust me that 10% difference will never be noticeable in real life usage.
If you never used a custom ROM that performs better then stock? PureNexus everrytime performs better on the Nexus phones. The developer will also release a Pixel rom, PurePixel?
You can always get that extra performance with a little modding.
No reason not to use the custom rom. More features then stock, performs better in speed, battery life and is updated with security updates.
Only reason I have not bought the Pixel yet is because first thing I will do is unlock bootloader. Install TWRP and custom rom. That's not available yet.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
Does it tick anyone off that Google put a 'SD821' in your phone, downclocked it to exact SD820 speeds, then sells it as a SD821? The difference between the two is that Qualcomm essentially overclocked the SD820 and called it the SD821 as the two have the same architecture. Then Google apparently downclocks them back down to stock speed and still calls them the Pro chip? Sounds like false advertising that they got around by advertising the downclocked speeds. They knew most customers just care that 821 is bigger than 820, as they don't pay attention the the real tech specs. The SD821 does offer better power consumption efficiency and downclocking will make that actually show, but when the battery easily lasts more than all day, I would rather have the performance increase, but maybe that is just me.
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Nope
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Blues-n-Blazin said:
Okay so Google opted for a 5% battery gain instead of a 10% performance gain? I'm glad I chose the latter.
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The one the timed his nos boost wins. Check Fast n Furious..