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Wildfire ROM update - backup questions

Hi everyone,
I'm using a HTC Wildfire and am considering changing from stock (HTC non-branded) to CyanogenMod for a number of minor reasons. Could anyone just confirm that I got a few points right before I get started:
- Recovery is totally independent from the ROM itself, right? So I can flash ClockWorkMod Recovery only, continue to use the stock ROM, but have the additional features of ClockWorkMod available, such as backup, with which I can create a complete backup of the stock ROM. In case I don't like CyanogenMod, I can restore the stock image and be exactly where I left it, Apps, Settings and everything (of course the new Recovery will still be installed.) Is this correct?
- I'm planning to do the following steps (I read about the details, just want to confirm the basics):
x use the Revolutionary way to S-OFF and install new Recovery
x create full image backup of the stock ROM using the new Recovery
x install new ROM (ClockWorkMod)
x if I don't like CM: restore image created before to return to stock
-> This should work, shouldn't it?
- One more: What will happen if the the phone is S-OFF, an alternative Recovery is installed, and a HTC Firmware-Update is attempted? Will this work at all, will it update just the ROM, or will it update the Recovery, too? S-OFF will not be changed back to S-ON, right?
Thanks for your help.
Regards

1. Yes, the recovery is in it's own partition and is independent from the ROM
2. The recovery creates a "snapshot" of your current ROM. So when you restore, it'll be just the way you left it.
3. There's no need to do any HTC Firmware updates after installing a custom ROM (infact, I'm almost 100% sure that it won't work)

As a basic answer yes you go ahead with what you posted.just make sure your hboot version is compatible with revolutionary 1st etc etc.
As for HTC firmware update question,if your talking about the over the air updates I'm not sure but I think it would update your hboot thus reverting back to s-on status again so best not accept it if you do get one (turn off in settings)
Edit : ninja'd lol
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slymobi said:
As a basic answer yes you go ahead with what you posted.just make sure your hboot version is compatible with revolutionary 1st etc etc.
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Yes, of course.
As for HTC firmware update question,if your talking about the over the air updates [...]
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No, the manual ones you can download directly from HTC and install via USB. My understanding was that this would kill everything flashable, including radio and recovery. It would be reassuring to have a worst-case way to go back to stock in case the image-restore fails for whatever reason.

150d said:
Yes, of course.
No, the manual ones you can download directly from HTC and install via USB. My understanding was that this would kill everything flashable, including radio and recovery. It would be reassuring to have a worst-case way to go back to stock in case the image-restore fails for whatever reason.
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Ah sorry never dealt with any firmware updates. There are ruu.exe to help get back to stock if something goes wrong I think.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

You can go completely back to stock, s-on and all but believe me once you have cwm installed there really is no point unless its for warranty reasons, backup fails are rare with the latest recoveries + if it does fail with your first backup you can always post here and we will explain how to extract a stock Rom from an ruu to put things back to how they where before or you can flash a custom sense Rom and modify it to your liking.
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Scratch0805 said:
You can go completely back to stock, s-on and all
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That's great.
[...] but believe me once you have cwm installed there really is no point unless its for warranty reasons[...]
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Yea, exactly. I'm a little on the paranoid side, I know... ;-)
Ok, I'm on my way now. I've performed the "Revolutionary" S-OFF and am now running "Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4". Is this an out-of-date version?
I've read about ROM-Manager being able to auto-check for and flash a new Clockworks Recovery, but I've also read that ROM-Manager needs root. I have not yet flashed a new ROM, so I assume that I'm not yet rooted, am I? Can I find a ZIP of CWM that I can directly flash from the SD-card?
Does the CWM-version I'm running have any effect on the "quality" of the image backup? In other words, if I create a backup now, will I be able to restore it later running a different version of CWM?

The "different version backup restore" is a bit wonky and won't always work.
To flash a different recovery from the SD card do this:
1. Place this file on your SD card (Not in any folders!): http://www.multiupload.com/74EW2VPNHL
2. Boot into the bootloader
3. Wait a bit and then it should prompt you to update
4. Click the volume+ key to update
5. Remove SD card
6. Boot into the new recovery and insert the SD card
7. Go under mounts and select Mount USB storage
8. Delete the PCIMG file from your computer

nejc121 said:
1. Place this file on your SD card (Not in any folders!): http://www.multiupload.com/74EW2VPNHL
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I tried to, but I couldn't use the link. The whole domain seems to be down - maybe another holy crusade of Big Content, who knows. They sure leave fans in their wake, don't they.
Since you indicated that updating would be ok for the wildfire I went to http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager and downloaded the file recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-buzz.zip.
However, I'm not sure how to handle it: If I put it on the card under this name, nothing happens on bootloader-start. In recovery, I can select the file and install it, and then I immidiatly get a newly colored menu with the new CWM version 5.something. However, once I restart, the old CWM (v4.x) is there again.
I assume I need to use a magic filename so that the bootloader performs the update, not the (already running) recovery. Right?
**EDIT: Ah, disregard. I believe I found the answer myself.

Do you have fastboot?
If you do I can give you the recovery.img I'm using, which you can flash via fastboot.

Yes, fastboot is available.
Thank you.

Okay, here's how you flash a recovery via fastboot.
1. Extract the .zip I attached to the location where you fastboot is
2. Reboot phone in the bootloader
3. Select fastboot and attach USB cable
4. Open up the command prompt and type in "cd [location of fastboot]
5. Type in "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
6. You're done
Oh and by [location of fastboot] I mean that you type in the location of fastboot.

Wow - this was fun. There was something really curious going on with my device: Whatever I tried, no "official" way worked to modify CWM v4 to v5. In every case, the menu of the new version showed up and was usable, but was gone again after restart. After the file-on-card method got me nowhere (file was not recognized), I tried the high road and installed ROM-Manager. This complained about missing su. So I installed su. After that ROM-Manager downloaded CWM v5 and put it onto the card (into a file named update.zip - ahh... ) On restart, the CWM-install-screen came up, then the v5 menu.
And after restart, it was gone again. Even ROM-Manager was confused: He showed v5 as "installed", when in fact it was still v4. ;-)
So finally I downloaded the Android SDK (to get fastboot.exe) and performed the flash as you suggested in the first place. And it worked. First try, without hitch, permanently.
Thank you very much for your help!
Regards

The problem with ROM Manager's version is that it's only temporary and can only be accessed from the ROM Manager itself

Rolling Taiwan HTC 10 back to stock

Hello All
I am the textbook Long-Time-Lurker First-Time-Poster. I apologise for some very clueless questions, but I am largely self-taught when it comes to ROM flashing etc on Android.
I have a Taiwan HTC 10 (currently with software version 1.55.709.5). I have flashed TWRP recovery and SuperSU Free 2.72. I have backed up the System and the Sytem Image (two separate backups) on to my external sdCard (I think I should have done that prior to flashing the SuperSU - my bad I guess).
I now want to revert back to stock recovery so I can recieve the new 1.80.709.1 update and so I know how to do this in the future. Because I have the Taiwan version there is no RUU for me to be able to easily flash back to stock, so I think I have to flash both the TWRP Backup and the Stock Recovery for 1.55.709.5 from the Stock Collection page. I assume that I would do it in this order:
1. Flash the TWRP Backup first using the standard method in TWRP and perform the standard TWRP wipes. I assume that I should also let the phone do a full system reboot before going to the next step.
2. Then I would flash the Stock Recovery - but I am not totally sure how to do this. Is there a method to do it using TWRP itself or should I do it from fastboot using the command "fastboot flash recovery 1.55.709.5_rec.img"? Is there something else I will have to do after that (e.g. wiping caches) and, if so, how do I do that?
Am I correct in my thinking?
To explain my cluelessness I have come from using Galaxy devices for the past few years where I just wanted to get away from TouchWiz as fast as possible - so I have never reverted a device back to stock. I also have used ClockworkMod as my recovery (because it was what I learnt with my Nexus One back in the day).
I thank you in advance for your help, and if you need me to post other information about my phone, please remember I may be tardy in replying due to timezones - I am in New Zealand.

Restore your stock system image and boot if you made one before modifying sytem. If not grab the one in the stock thread for your phone. Then boot to download mode and flash stock recovery with fastboot. Reboot to system and take ota
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No need to wipe anything.
Just restore System img (already SU? Then Download one from the other Thread here on xda) and you can also restore recovery in TWRP simply Switch to img files instead of zip at the bottom of installing files.
All in one go, Reboot system take OTA and fastboot Flash twrp again.
If you Flash Systemless SU in the future you can still take OTAs

Thank you both for your help. I have been able to restore back to stock pretty much following your suggestions. For others who may be in the situation as I here are the steps I went through:
1. I "system image" backed up my setup - just in case.
2. using TWRP, I flashed the stock image for current software (1.55.709.15) from the [STOCK] Guides and Stock Backups/Recovery/OTA/RUU thread.
3. I had to do the standard three wipes in TWRP to get it back to stock as well - this was the only way that I could get rid of the SuperSU app and I had to go through the first-time-starting setup again. This made me confident that I was back to a pure stock installation.
4. I booted into download mode and used fastboot to flash the stock recovery for 1.55.709.15 (from the same thread as above).
5. Restarted the system and from there downloaded and installed the update - and after 10-15 minutes it successfully rebooted and gave me the message that it had worked.
Thanks again.

hi
are u htc cidnum HTC__621 ?
now can u OTA update ?
because my htc10 rom ver 1.55.709.1 .
now i cant ota update.

htcppadol said:
are u htc cidnum HTC__621 ?
now can u OTA update ?
because my htc10 rom ver 1.55.709.1 .
now i cant ota update.
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Yes that is my CID, and yes I have updated. Did you change your recovery or system? Because that is what I did, and the process I describe above is how I got it back to stock so I could get the latest OTA update.

Hello,
I've a Taiwanese HTC 10 converted to USA (CID and MID) and flashed with official Nougat RUU. It's working quite good however I wanted to return it to default Taiwanese version and I couldn't.
What I had done:
1) Flashed latest version of TWRP
2) I changed CID and MID to default settings
3) I restored the backup of Taiwanese version downloaded from a thread here using TWRP.
4) I restored original recovery downloaded from a thread here
Following these steps my phone was unable to boot again and a boot loop occurred. To fix the phone I changed CID and MID to USA and thankfully the RUU restored my device to a working state.
I think I'm missing some procedure in TWRP. I only restored a backup using TWRP. It took about a minute or less to complete "successfully".
Do I need to do an extra procedure? Apparently the phone never recognized the Taiwanese version as in download mode the device shown the version of USA ROM even with the backup restored using TWRP.
I'm s-off (Sunshine) with bootloader locked. I think this shouldn't affect as TWRP installed properly and I'm s-off.
Thank you.
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Thank you both for your help. I have been able to restore back to stock pretty much following your suggestions. For others who may be in the situation as I here are the steps I went through:
1. I "system image" backed up my setup - just in case.
2. using TWRP, I flashed the stock image for current software (1.55.709.15) from the [STOCK] Guides and Stock Backups/Recovery/OTA/RUU thread.
3. I had to do the standard three wipes in TWRP to get it back to stock as well - this was the only way that I could get rid of the SuperSU app and I had to go through the first-time-starting setup again. This made me confident that I was back to a pure stock installation.
4. I booted into download mode and used fastboot to flash the stock recovery for 1.55.709.15 (from the same thread as above).
5. Restarted the system and from there downloaded and installed the update - and after 10-15 minutes it successfully rebooted and gave me the message that it had worked.
Thanks again.
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Htc One M8 Bootloop

Hi, I have and HTC One M8 6.0 with twrp 2.8.7.0. When I was going to turn of my phone to flash supersu, it gave me the option to install it there. So I said yes on the twrp menu. It never turned on again(stuck in the logo). I can access the bootloader but I think that usb debugging is off. In bootloader when you go to factory reset, it gives an error in twrp(failed). Is there anyway I cant lock the bootloader because usb debigging is off, when doing the steps to lock the bootloader(the ones in htcdev), it says <waiting for device>. I have nothing in the phone right now. Any way to fix the bootloop?
Thanks.

pasatmalo said:
Is there anyway I cant lock the bootloader because usb debigging is off
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Relocking bootloader is done by fastboot, not adb. Fastboot and adb are related, but different requirements:
adb: only worksin OS or alternately TWRP. Requires debugging on.
fastboot: Only works in bootloader-fastboot mode, does not require debugging on.
However, I don't immediately suggest relocking the bootloader (presumably to RUU to stock); at least until trying some other things (below). As it may be possible to just do the root properly and make the phone work; rather than RUU and starting over.
pasatmalo said:
Hi, I have and HTC One M8 6.0 with twrp 2.8.7.0. When I was going to turn of my phone to flash supersu, it gave me the option to install it there.
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The TWRP root option doesn't work. That is the whole reason for flashing SuperSU.
Also, you should use SuperSU current stable version 2.76. Some previous builds will also probably be fine, but you may need to flash an insecure kernel separately on some older versions for the full system root. SuperSU builds before 2.52 or so simply will not work on Marshmallow, and will result in being stuck on the HTC logo screen.
My recommendation, is to install current version TWRP 3.0, then try to flash SuperSU 2.76, and see if it gets the phone working (and with root). If not, we'll go from there.
Also, I also would advise in the future, to always make a TWRP backup before rooting or other mods. That way, if the mod/root fails, you can simply restore the backup in TWRP, and have a working phone. Too many folks skip this step. Maybe since it goes unmentioned in root guides. But its really just basic (and wise) procedure for rooting/modding.

redpoint73 said:
However, I don't immediately suggest relocking the bootloader (presumably to RUU to stock); at least until trying some other things (below). As it may be possible to just do the root properly and make the phone work; rather than RUU and starting over.
The TWRP root option doesn't work. That is the whole reason for flashing SuperSU.
Also, you should use SuperSU current stable version 2.76. Some previous builds will also probably be fine, but you may need to flash an insecure kernel separately on some older versions for the full system root. SuperSU builds before 2.52 or so simply will not work on Marshmallow, and will result in being stuck on the HTC logo screen.
My recommendation, is to install current version TWRP 3.0, then try to flash SuperSU 2.76, and see if it gets the phone working (and with root). If not, we'll go from there.
Also, I also would advise in the future, to always make a TWRP backup before rooting or other mods. That way, if the mod/root fails, you can simply restore the backup in TWRP, and have a working phone. Too many folks skip this step. Maybe since it goes unmentioned in root guides. But its really just basic (and wise) procedure for rooting/modding.
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Hi thanks very much, I just solved it by flashing a newer version of SuperSu like you said. One question, to update TWRP from 2.8.7.0 to 3.0.2.0. Do I need to reflash it from the computer, and if so, will it wipe my data? Im pretty new so I dont know much. In TWRP I cant flash the new one because I cant see the .img.
Thanks.

pasatmalo said:
I just solved it by flashing a newer version of SuperSu like you said. One question, to update TWRP from 2.8.7.0 to 3.0.2.0. Do I need to reflash it from the computer, and if so, will it wipe my data?
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Yes, flash from computer with fastboot. No, it won't wipe your data. But always backup anything important to you, just to be safe, even when not flashing things.
Also, if you already flashed proper version SuperSU, and the phone is working; there isn't in immediate need to update TWRP. Unless you intend on flashing other things with recovery, or creating TWRP backups. In which case, its recommended to use an updated version.

Stuck in TWRP and unable to load recoveries

OK, I have a major problem/possibly problems.
I was running Stock on 1.80.something and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, not mentally registering that Lee is on 1.92. Naturally there were some quirks, so I wanted to restore the 1.80 untouched Stock so that I could download and install the 1.92 OTA and move to Lee and other custom ROMs. I understand to do that I have to flash back to Stock Recovery so that I can get the 1.92 OTA since otherwise it fails to install on my phone (I have an unlocked bootloader, root and TWRP). I have yet to successfully do that, though.
I booted into TWRP and wiped Lee since I didn't need it and since I had recoveries. I then flashed the 1.80.709.1 Stock Recovery image from topjohnwu's Stock Backups/Recovery/OTA/RUU repository and booted to it, however, it didn't like any of the 1.80 Untouched System Images I tried to flash from that repository. So, I reflashed TWRP with the adb console thinking I would restore a backup and deal with this another day when I'm not so tired.
For some reason the TWRP Restore menu now only lets me select one item ("DATE"_MMB29M_release-keys), even though I have two other backups. I'm missing the "Up a level" button that lets me pick a different folder, so I can't pick a different backup. Flashing this only available backup gives me the error "Cannot restore system -- mounted read only." Trying to install one of the 1.80 zips from the repository gives me errors saying that it "Could not find 'META-INF/com/google/android/update-binary' " in the zip file. I can only install LeeDroid on a firmware that's too high for my phone.
Any suggestions about what to do? I currently have no OS on my phone and download mode tells me the OS is 1.80.617.1. I apologize for my profuse stupidity on this. I used TWRP fairly frequently with my LG G3, but having to flash Stock Recovery for OTAs on the HTC 10 after a long day adds a whole new layer of complication.
Thanks in advance!

Are you S-off? if yes you can flash 1.9X firmware in DL mode to be able to boot LeeDroid.

macschwag14 said:
OK, I have a major problem/possibly problems.
I was running Stock on 1.80.something and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, not mentally registering that Lee is on 1.92. Naturally there were some quirks, so I wanted to restore the 1.80 untouched Stock so that I could download and install the 1.92 OTA and move to Lee and other custom ROMs. I understand to do that I have to flash back to Stock Recovery so that I can get the 1.92 OTA since otherwise it fails to install on my phone (I have an unlocked bootloader, root and TWRP). I have yet to successfully do that, though.
I booted into TWRP and wiped Lee since I didn't need it and since I had recoveries. I then flashed the 1.80.709.1 Stock Recovery image from topjohnwu's Stock Backups/Recovery/OTA/RUU repository and booted to it, however, it didn't like any of the 1.80 Untouched System Images I tried to flash from that repository. So, I reflashed TWRP with the adb console thinking I would restore a backup and deal with this another day when I'm not so tired.
For some reason the TWRP Restore menu now only lets me select one item ("DATE"_MMB29M_release-keys), even though I have two other backups. I'm missing the "Up a level" button that lets me pick a different folder, so I can't pick a different backup. Flashing this only available backup gives me the error "Cannot restore system -- mounted read only." Trying to install one of the 1.80 zips from the repository gives me errors saying that it "Could not find 'META-INF/com/google/android/update-binary' " in the zip file. I can only install LeeDroid on a firmware that's too high for my phone.
Any suggestions about what to do? I currently have no OS on my phone and download mode tells me the OS is 1.80.617.1. I apologize for my profuse stupidity on this. I used TWRP fairly frequently with my LG G3, but having to flash Stock Recovery for OTAs on the HTC 10 after a long day adds a whole new layer of complication.
Thanks in advance!
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You are flashing wrong files for your phone. What is you cid and mid? It says your os is 1.80.617 but yoy are trying to flash 1.80.709 recover. The 3rd numbers are important that is a region code. Also Leedoid is based on. WWE 1.95.401. If i was you i would flash the RUU that is for your cid and mid and start over.
It seems that you are on US unlocked. If you search you will find an ruu zip for 1.91.617.1

Thanks for the replies. I'm unable to find my CID and MID. Download mode doesn't show either, and the using the adb console commands to show them only gives me the message "waiting for a device" in the console window.
I don't have S-OFF (yet). Should I install the 1.91.617.1 RUU via PC or should I first buy S-OFF and then install the RUU?

macschwag14 said:
Thanks for the replies. I'm unable to find my CID and MID. Download mode doesn't show either, and the using the adb console commands to show them only gives me the message "waiting for a device" in the console window.
I don't have S-OFF (yet). Should I install the 1.91.617.1 RUU via PC or should I first buy S-OFF and then install the RUU?
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Install the RUU via pc or find the ruu zip and flash in download mode by renaming the zip to 2PS6IMG.zip you dont need SOFF to flash RUU.also remember it will erase your internal storage.

Thanks everyone! I installed RUU 1.91.617.1 and seem to be running smoothly now. I still can't see any other backups on in the TWRP Restore menu and don't have the Up a level button that lets me pick a different directory on my SD card. Any ideas about that?

NEED HELP

I have a brand new Pixel XL from Verizon that I received today and was successful in unlocking. However, I tried to root and now I am stuck on bootloop. I cannot post in DEVELOPMENT because I haven't posted here in years (haven't had ANDROID in a while). Can anyone help? I am able to access via fastboot (I believe) but I must be flashing the wrong images. I don't want to brick this nice new day-old device. I have been at it for 5 hours via research on my own, but now I am looking for someone that can help me via P.M. or what it may take. I really want to get back to enjoying this device! Thanks in advance!

bdsuser said:
I have a brand new Pixel XL from Verizon that I received today and was successful in unlocking. However, I tried to root and now I am stuck on bootloop. I cannot post in DEVELOPMENT because I haven't posted here in years (haven't had ANDROID in a while). Can anyone help? I am able to access via fastboot (I believe) but I must be flashing the wrong images. I don't want to brick this nice new day-old device. I have been at it for 5 hours via research on my own, but now I am looking for someone that can help me via P.M. or what it may take. I really want to get back to enjoying this device! Thanks in advance!
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Read the third post in the thread below to get set up and back to stock. Then we will work on root. If you tried to root and you bootlooped it then you used the wrong​ SU.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/stupidly-bootloop-help-t3554242

1. Download a ROM. A stock version is probably in the forums somewhere if that's what you want.
2. Download TWRP image and zip from the TWRP thread.
3. Download SuperSU from the SuperSU thread.
4. Download a vendor image. There's no "official" vendor image thread AFAIK, but you can grab one from the Pure Nexus rom thread. NMF26V is compatible with all 7.1.1 ROMs & stock.
Now you have two options:
Fast: Put the ROM, TWRP(zip only), SuperSU and vendor image on USB flash drive, then connect the USB 3 to USB C adapter to your flash drive. Don't connect it to the phone yet. An external HDD/SSD should also work if that's all you've got.
Slow: While in TWRP(Instructions below) push the ROM, TWRP(zip only), SuperSU and vendor image files to your phone through ADB with "adb push C:\file_path\ /sdcard/" sans quotes. You will need to do this for each file, or alternatively push a folder containing the four files. adb file transfer is very slow.
5. Boot your phone to the bootloader, and connect it to your computer. This can be achieved by holding volume down and power from an off state.
Note: If your device is still bootlooping you won't be able to get to the bootloader. Hold volume up and power until the device shuts off to get out of the bootloop temporarily, then boot to bootloader.
6. In a command window, "fastboot boot twrp.img"
7. Connect your flash drive to your phone if you chose that option, or push the files through adb if you chose that option
8. Flash TWRP zip, ROM and vendor image. STAY IN TWRP
9. Return to TWRP's home screen > advanced > file manager. Scroll down until you see 'fstab.marlin'(in the root '/' directory). Tap on 'fstab.marlin' and delete it. Skipping this step means SuperSU won't install.
10. Flash SuperSU zip, reboot to system and you're done.

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TonikJDK said:
Read the third post in the thread below to get set up and back to stock. Then we will work on root. If you tried to root and you bootlooped it then you used the wrong​ SU.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/stupidly-bootloop-help-t3554242
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Just thought I'd update you...And I know I sound like I have no idea what I'm doing but traditionally I've never had issues like this But I am trying to get ADB to show the flash-all command. The one I have installed doesn't show that feature so I can't follow the tutorial. If you have a direct link to what I may be missing I would appreciate it otherwise I will update you once I figure it out.

bdsuser said:
Just thought I'd update you...And I know I sound like I have no idea what I'm doing but traditionally I've never had issues like this But I am trying to get ADB to show the flash-all command. The one I have installed doesn't show that feature so I can't follow the tutorial. If you have a direct link to what I may be missing I would appreciate it otherwise I will update you once I figure it out.
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The link to the proper adb and fastboot are in the post i pointed you to.

Help with root and TWRP
TonikJDK said:
The link to the proper adb and fastboot are in the post i pointed you to.
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Thanks for your assistance. I now have root installed and I think I'm good except for one thing. I keep thinking TWRP is installed but for some reason when I reboot to bootloader, then select reboot recovery mode, it takes me to android recovery. I am used to recovery taking me to TWRP. I know TWRP works but I feel like I'm temporarily flashing it each time or something. I even installed the twrp app and I see I can flash zips that way, etc, but I wanted to know if you knew how to make the phone boot to TWRP in recovery? Or is that necessary?

bdsuser said:
Thanks for your assistance. I now have root installed and I think I'm good except for one thing. I keep thinking TWRP is installed but for some reason when I reboot to bootloader, then select reboot recovery mode, it takes me to android recovery. I am used to recovery taking me to TWRP. I know TWRP works but I feel like I'm temporarily flashing it each time or something. I even installed the twrp app and I see I can flash zips that way, etc, but I wanted to know if you knew how to make the phone boot to TWRP in recovery? Or is that necessary?
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I dont do it that way on this phone. TWRP and SU are modifying the same parts of the phone, and there are cases where it could conflict. Rare, not a big deal, but since i don't need TWRP installed i don't.
To install it ypu first boot to it.
Fastboot boot twrpFilename.
Then from within TWRP you install the TWRP zip.
Make sure it is TWRP RC1

All set
Thanks again for your help. I am running pure ROM as I mentioned and I seem to like it. Do you K or if Franco works with Pure or do you have a suggestion on a good rom/kernel? Is there anything else that you can suggest I should be using with the new phone? I remember there used to be tools that you could install that allowed you to customize the system even further but the name escapes me. . Is there anything like that or even a theme tool which is a must have when you are rooted and running custom roms? No big deal if not. Very happy with where I stand now. Really appreciate you getting me back up and running!

You are most welcome. I don't ROM so I don't know what kernels work with what roms for sure. But my understanding is that they are all pretty universal. I run stock with Franco.
Other than that i dont mod much. Ad blocker, black themes and a few adjustments to Franco.

TonikJDK said:
You are most welcome. I don't ROM so I don't know what kernels work with what roms for sure. But my understanding is that they are all pretty universal. I run stock with Franco.
Other than that i dont mod much. Ad blocker, black themes and a few adjustments to Franco.
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Perfect! Thanks yet again. Have a great remainder of the day!

bdsuser said:
Thanks again for your help. I am running pure ROM as I mentioned and I seem to like it. Do you K or if Franco works with Pure or do you have a suggestion on a good rom/kernel? Is there anything else that you can suggest I should be using with the new phone? I remember there used to be tools that you could install that allowed you to customize the system even further but the name escapes me. . Is there anything like that or even a theme tool which is a must have when you are rooted and running custom roms? No big deal if not. Very happy with where I stand now. Really appreciate you getting me back up and running!
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Im running pure and elementalx with excellent results.
?Tapped from my pure pixelXl?

have you ever seen an issue where the phone boots to twrp even though everything was working fine? It starts happening if I do a restart. Then no matter what it boots into TWRP unless I wipe again? I believe it's happening after I flash root but I'm going out of my mind with trial and error. Any help would be appreciated.

bdsuser said:
have you ever seen an issue where the phone boots to twrp even though everything was working fine? It starts happening if I do a restart. Then no matter what it boots into TWRP unless I wipe again? I believe it's happening after I flash root but I'm going out of my mind with trial and error. Any help would be appreciated.
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HELLO!!! I understand any frustrations you may be having, as the pixel devices have changed a good bit for us as far as development. Anyways. I'm just going to throw some knowledge out there, then proceed to help get you up and running!
You couldn't post in the development section because of your post count, but even if you could, it would have been in the wrong section and it would have been removed, or moved to the questions section.
Also, I see someone has pointed it out earlier, but I'll say it again just to make sure everything is clear. The command you were running "fastboot boot TWRP.img" only boots TWRP temporarily. You are suppose to have two files, one IMG file and one zip file. You boot the IMG file, then once you're in TWRP, you flash the zip file, then reboot to recovery and you will have installed TWRP properly.
With root, flashing wrong files or using the outdated root method will cause boot loops. The correct way to root (again already been said) is the get TWRP up and running, delete the fstab file (see earlier post) then flash SuperSU and reboot. Just throwing this out there Incase someone comes across it, if you manage to boot loop your device due to to rooting, you can fastboot flash franco's kernel and it will fix the bootloop (,but you won't have root) this isn't the correct way to fix it, but it will get you back up and running without downloading the large factory image.
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Here is a correct guide and good template to get you running.
start by flashing a clean factory image, then let it boot and get it set up.
Reboot to fastboot, fastboot boot TWRP IMG then flash TWRP zip using the latest versions (RC1 is latest, pm me for more info).
Reboot the phone to recovery to ensure TWRP stuck.
Go-to advanced, file manager in TWRP and find the fstab.marlin file and delete.
Then you can go ahead and flash the latest SuperSU (I use 2.79 sr3) and when it's done reboot to system and verify root.
After rooting you can go ahead and flash a kernel if you want, I use elemental which you can flash in TWRP, but see the kernel instructions prior to flashing.
Reboot and you have a nice stock ROM with root and kernel.
For flashing Roms, kind of follow the same template, most Roms require you to flash part of or the whole latest factory image.
If your on a clean install, go ahead and install TWRP as mentioned above.
Then use TWRP to install whatever ROM you want per ROM developer instructions.
Side note, some Roms replace the TWRP with cwm or stock recovery, so it's always nice to flash the TWRP zip after flashing a ROM.
After flashing ROM, boot to system to make sure all is well, then boot back to recovery and follow instructions above for root/kernel.
As far as the problem you're having now, it usually comes from flashing outdated SuperSU images. Do a search for 2.79 sr3 and use it to root (pm me if you need help)
You might have to start clean one more time, And flash factory image.

noidea24 said:
HELLO!!! I understand any frustrations you may be having, as the pixel devices have changed a good bit for us as far as development. Anyways. I'm just going to throw some knowledge out there, then proceed to help get you up and running!
You couldn't post in the development section because of your post count, but even if you could, it would have been in the wrong section and it would have been removed, or moved to the questions section.
Also, I see someone has pointed it out earlier, but I'll say it again just to make sure everything is clear. The command you were running "fastboot boot TWRP.img" only boots TWRP temporarily. You are suppose to have two files, one IMG file and one zip file. You boot the IMG file, then once you're in TWRP, you flash the zip file, then reboot to recovery and you will have installed TWRP properly.
With root, flashing wrong files or using the outdated root method will cause boot loops. The correct way to root (again already been said) is the get TWRP up and running, delete the fstab file (see earlier post) then flash SuperSU and reboot. Just throwing this out there Incase someone comes across it, if you manage to boot loop your device due to to rooting, you can fastboot flash franco's kernel and it will fix the bootloop (,but you won't have root) this isn't the correct way to fix it, but it will get you back up and running without downloading the large factory image.
***About to edit this post to continue giving more info***
Here is a correct guide and good template to get you running.
start by flashing a clean factory image, then let it boot and get it set up.
Reboot to fastboot, fastboot boot TWRP IMG then flash TWRP zip using the latest versions (RC1 is latest, pm me for more info).
Reboot the phone to recovery to ensure TWRP stuck.
Go-to advanced, file manager in TWRP and find the fstab.marlin file and delete.
Then you can go ahead and flash the latest SuperSU (I use 2.79 sr3) and when it's done reboot to system and verify root.
After rooting you can go ahead and flash a kernel if you want, I use elemental which you can flash in TWRP, but see the kernel instructions prior to flashing.
Reboot and you have a nice stock ROM with root and kernel.
For flashing Roms, kind of follow the same template, most Roms require you to flash part of or the whole latest factory image.
If your on a clean install, go ahead and install TWRP as mentioned above.
Then use TWRP to install whatever ROM you want per ROM developer instructions.
Side note, some Roms replace the TWRP with cwm or stock recovery, so it's always nice to flash the TWRP zip after flashing a ROM.
After flashing ROM, boot to system to make sure all is well, then boot back to recovery and follow instructions above for root/kernel.
As far as the problem you're having now, it usually comes from flashing outdated SuperSU images. Do a search for 2.79 sr3 and use it to root (pm me if you need help)
You might have to start clean one more time, And flash factory image.
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There is absolutely no need to delete the fstab file anymore. That only needed to be done when TWRP was still alpha 2, and almost three versions of su earlier.
ALL roms replace TWRP with stock recovery unless you are using lineage then you will get Cyanogenmod recovery, so reflashing TWRP before booting into system is a must.
If you are flashing root and or custome kernel and end up in a bootloop, flashing the stock boot.img to both slots via:
'fastboot flash --slot _a boot boot.img'
'fastboot flash --slot _b boot boot.Img'
will fix the issue and you will be able to boot up just fine. Again you will have to reboot into TWRP from the bootloader and reflash the zip. When you are done flashing the boot.img's you might as well just
'Fastboot boot TWRP-file.img'
Then install the zip!