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I had a strange reset of my phone last night, through what I think was no real action on my part, but I wanted to defer to the experts and see if anyone can help me make sense of this...
Also, as you'll see at the end of my post—if you make it through my rambling—I could find some of the info I seek elsewhere on this, and other forums, but the combination of data would be a difficult scavenger hunt and I thought this thread may help other lite (or lazy) power users with similar issues or info searches in the future...
So I was changing my battery out last night and when I was pulling the dead one out I had accidentally turned the phone on, but was talking to someone at the time and, being distracted, continued pulling the battery.
I got the new one in and turned the phone on to be greeted by what I think is called, and excuse my ignorance on terms as I have had no real interest in rooting to date, the debug screen—white background, cute little android rascals on the bottom, several restart options, etc. I believe I selected 'fast boot', as I think I have done when some random serious of events have greeted me with the 'debug' screen in the past.
All seemed fine and the device started up but it lagged on a black screen with an icon I interpreted as an 'update' icon and a progress bar. When I got to the OS, my settings, screens, apps, etc were reverted to stock conditions. My SD card retained all its contents and I used AppBrain so I was able to get things back to some semblance of normalcy rather quickly, but I am left with so many questions...
I've come up with 3 possible explanations...I made an error on the 'debug' screen, my device had a huge and random hiccup, or there was some strange update last night that, despite my best efforts, I cannot find mention of here or on any other forums.
Some additional info...
-on App Brain site, after linking the reset device back up to my E-mail/account, I have a totally new list named, not by the former 'ADR6300', but by 'HTC Droid Incredible'. This leads me to believe either AppBrain has changed its naming convention for this device since I originally set the app/account up, or there was some strange mystery update.
-I have always updated when prompted so I believe I was running the newest OS and am still on 2.2 now.
I'm not really looking for a solution to the reset, more looking for answers/theories and some preventative measures for reducing possible distress should something similar occur in the future.
-back-up methods...I use Launcher Pro Plus - paid, and just realized I can back-up home screens and settings through the launcher but is there anything else I should be doing?
-break down on that 'debug' screen, best option to choose for various issues, etc.
-has anyone heard of a similar story, update last night, or know the reason for AppBrain's new naming convention for my device?
Any other info, tips, or relevant advice would be much appreciated. As a Web/graphic designer and modern woman I am inquisitive and technical by nature but tend to subscribe to the 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' school of thought unless there is some new feature I hear about or want when it comes to my device. So I am not dense but I definitely don't know everything and I am looking to you, the 'experts' for answers
You held vol - and the pwr button when you turned on the phone. That is what made you go to the bootloader (debug). From there i'm guessing you had the phone do a factory reset, that is why everything went back to how it was when you first bought the phone.
2.2 is the "newest" build available without rooting your device.
Rooting and making a backup through Recovery is the best way (imo) to create a backup.
For what it's worth, I think g00s3y is spot-on
When you get to the hboot screen (the white screen with the Android dudes at the bottom), there should be 5 options:
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
FACTORY RESET
Seems most likely that you mistakenly hit the last one rather than the first.
So the other day the app Widgetsoid releases a "Completely rewritten" update for their sweet app. I was obviously excited to play with this and set about recreating all of my toggles. One toggle I have is to toggle the camera flash on/off which is very handy to have a widget for on the homescreen. Another one I use toggles the screen always on/off which is handy when reading long articles. So I was using the screen always on toggle as a reading light (as the camera LED can be overly bright) when, after some time, my phone locked up. Following my natural instinct I pulled the battery and powered it back on. When it came back on I noticed that the screen always on toggle was still in the "on" position though I believe (honestly can't remember for sure) that the screen was timing out as if it were off. Anyways I put this out of my mind and decided to use the flashlight toggle as the screen hadn't been quite as bright as I wanted. However, upon toggling the flashlight to "on" The toggle froze in mid activation. I could see that I had clicked it but the animation never finished and the flashlight never turned on. I gave it several minutes to sort itself out and when it didn't I did another battery pull thinking that would clear it up. Well it didn't. Upon the phone restarting I was greeted by "Tango has stopped responding". Then when I tried the flashlight toggle again I got "Gallery has stopped responding" which flashed up and disappeared too quickly for me to click on it. I tried opening the camera to no avail. "Gallery has stopped responding". So one bug led to another to another to another as bugs so often do. No biggie, I was planning on doing a factory reset soon anyways so I backed up my data and went ahead with that. Unfortunately, when I finished the setup and went back to the camera app it gave me the same error. (please note that I did not restore anything after the reset.) So I did another just for sanity's sake but no change. I went into the bootloader and into recovery, cleared the cache and then did another factory reset. Nada. I downloaded a flashlight app to see if it could tell me anything new, which it sort of did. "Cannot connect to camera", it said when I turned it on. In my search on this forum for a similar issue I came across a post to a different issue talking about how when an app uses the camera it might not have let go when it was finished which causes problems for other apps. This makes enough sense except that I figured the reset would have resolved that issue. Unless, of course, the problem lies in the hardware which I am desperately hoping someone will tell me is foolish.
I'm not really sure what to try next in my troubleshooting short of unlocking the bootloader and flashing either the stock back over it or another ROM. I would prefer to try other possible solutions before this. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the factory reset restore the system and stock apps to their default state? Almost literally bit for bit? If that is the case then that means the issue isn't with the system or the camera app and must fall to the camera hardware itself? I feel it is worth noting that on about the third factory reset, during the initial setup (quite literally on the first screen) a popup popped saying "Talk has stopped responding". Why the Talk app would stop responding due to some issue with the camera seems out of place. Though as I said and we all know, bugs have a way of spreading to the places you least expect.
Anyways any help, suggestions or questions would be greatly appreciated. This really has me stumped.
I guess the question it boils down to (besides the three I've already asked) is how can I do a full wipe/reset that will actually reset everything? Or is it that the camera is really hung and if so any possible fixes for that? Anyone see any bright red flags waving violently in the storm?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide
patrioticparadox
I am running 4.1.1 on a Verizon Galaxy Nexus build JRO03O
patrioticparadox said:
So the other day the app Widgetsoid releases a "Completely rewritten" update for their sweet app. I was obviously excited to play with this and set about recreating all of my toggles. One toggle I have is to toggle the camera flash on/off which is very handy to have a widget for on the homescreen. Another one I use toggles the screen always on/off which is handy when reading long articles. So I was using the screen always on toggle as a reading light (as the camera LED can be overly bright) when, after some time, my phone locked up. Following my natural instinct I pulled the battery and powered it back on. When it came back on I noticed that the screen always on toggle was still in the "on" position though I believe (honestly can't remember for sure) that the screen was timing out as if it were off. Anyways I put this out of my mind and decided to use the flashlight toggle as the screen hadn't been quite as bright as I wanted. However, upon toggling the flashlight to "on" The toggle froze in mid activation. I could see that I had clicked it but the animation never finished and the flashlight never turned on. I gave it several minutes to sort itself out and when it didn't I did another battery pull thinking that would clear it up. Well it didn't. Upon the phone restarting I was greeted by "Tango has stopped responding". Then when I tried the flashlight toggle again I got "Gallery has stopped responding" which flashed up and disappeared too quickly for me to click on it. I tried opening the camera to no avail. "Gallery has stopped responding". So one bug led to another to another to another as bugs so often do. No biggie, I was planning on doing a factory reset soon anyways so I backed up my data and went ahead with that. Unfortunately, when I finished the setup and went back to the camera app it gave me the same error. (please note that I did not restore anything after the reset.) So I did another just for sanity's sake but no change. I went into the bootloader and into recovery, cleared the cache and then did another factory reset. Nada. I downloaded a flashlight app to see if it could tell me anything new, which it sort of did. "Cannot connect to camera", it said when I turned it on. In my search on this forum for a similar issue I came across a post to a different issue talking about how when an app uses the camera it might not have let go when it was finished which causes problems for other apps. This makes enough sense except that I figured the reset would have resolved that issue. Unless, of course, the problem lies in the hardware which I am desperately hoping someone will tell me is foolish.
I'm not really sure what to try next in my troubleshooting short of unlocking the bootloader and flashing either the stock back over it or another ROM. I would prefer to try other possible solutions before this. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the factory reset restore the system and stock apps to their default state? Almost literally bit for bit? If that is the case then that means the issue isn't with the system or the camera app and must fall to the camera hardware itself? I feel it is worth noting that on about the third factory reset, during the initial setup (quite literally on the first screen) a popup popped saying "Talk has stopped responding". Why the Talk app would stop responding due to some issue with the camera seems out of place. Though as I said and we all know, bugs have a way of spreading to the places you least expect.
Anyways any help, suggestions or questions would be greatly appreciated. This really has me stumped.
I guess the question it boils down to (besides the three I've already asked) is how can I do a full wipe/reset that will actually reset everything? Or is it that the camera is really hung and if so any possible fixes for that? Anyone see any bright red flags waving violently in the storm?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide
patrioticparadox
I am running 4.1.1 on a Verizon Galaxy Nexus build JRO03O
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I would honestly try to flash another ROM. its hard to tell what is exactly causing this prob but I highly highly highly doubt its hardware. Make sure you wipe data and dalvik a couple times and go to mounts and storage and wipe system too. Do those a couple times, I always do just to be sure it works. Then after that try to flash another ROM stock or custom doesnt matter. This will help a lot.
Just a recommendation, I use and LOVE Codename Android Rom. Very very fast and stable with a lot of features.
Anyways, post back when you wipe everything out and flash a new ROM on there and let me know the outcome.
nothing yet...
myboyblake said:
I would honestly try to flash another ROM. its hard to tell what is exactly causing this prob but I highly highly highly doubt its hardware.
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Just finished flashing the 4.1.1 back and still the same issue (did all of the data wiping). I'll try a custom ROM now though I doubt its going to make any difference.
What in the world has got a hold of my camera?
No dice
"Unfortunately Talk has stopped responding" on the first screen. "Gallery has stopped responding" when trying to open Camera app.
So despite several wipes and two distinct ROM flashes (used PARANOIDANDROID the second time) my device is still acting up.
Please help me out people. What is causing this error that is lasting across ROM flashes? What can I try to resolve this issue?
Rewiped everything and reflashed PARANOIDANDROID (2.23) just to be sure and still the camera doesn't work
seems like perhaps the registers ended up in an odd state.. know this is for a different phone, but you might give it a shot..
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...amera-app-stoped-working-wont-initialize.html
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Looks like OMAPFlash can do a full reset on all the camera registers from looking at:
./Targets/Definitions/definitions_omap4.txt
in the OMAPFlash zipfile..
It might be worth a shot..
Slide opultl
No dice... I assume you were referring to clearing the cache and data. I had tried this before but gave it another shot anyways. In case you meant the screenshot part, I did that too and the screenshot captures fine but still the camera does not function. Also holding down the volume down and power keys never shuts the phone off I assume that is device specific (though several seconds after the screenshot captured the screen did flash off then on very quickly). I have tried disabling Gallery and rebooting in the hopes that would free up the hardware. Failed.
I am uber stuck on this.
Why is this persisting across flashes and what can I try to resolve it?
edit: just noticed that the bottom of your post was more info and not a signature. I'll look into that. Ran out of "thanks" for today but I'll get you yours
Since it won't delete....
As an update: I have tried contacting both Verizon and Samsung about the issue. Both recommend returning the device under warranty (as was expected). This would be fine except that I LEARN NOTHING! If the Samsung techies have a protocol/enumeration/anything to discover and resolve the issue then so can I (potentially), which means the general public should have this knowledge too, right? WHAT IS MY NEXT STEP?
(still have not yet OMAP_Flash'ed as I haven't found SOLID documentation on this yet.) (Google searching led me somewhere but left me confused. Please post documentation or the correct link if you have it and thank you) I am open to trying anything. Understand that my bottom line is giving Asurion $50 USD. "I LOST my phone, send me a [new] one". Phone gets replaced and I get to trash the old one. Sweet for everyone right? Wrong.
I don't give two runny, stinky butt creams about the phone itself. Which is not entirely, or honestly, even close to true. I'd hate to see a Nexus that can be saved be completely obliterated. If its totally bricked (which its very hard to do to a Nexus) then go for it. Smash that ***** up! But if, like mine, its recoverable then you owe it to the developer to try to save it. This Galaxy Nexus SCH-I515 reminds me of my SCH-a950. I loved that phone and literally (because of a now EX girlfriend) BEAT THE LIVING SNOT OUT OF IT. I literally threw it at my front porch as hard as I could from a good 30 yards away and yet it survived. Not only did it survive, it thrived. Never failing me (even until I finally upgraded) despite the "wear and F'ing tear" I had inflicted upon it.
I have actually dropped my Nexus several times. I have a massively cracked screen that I would love to show you all, yet the screen still functions as if there were no crack. I can click on the "options" toggle that is in the bottom right corner of many apps as if there were not a MASSIVE chunk of screen missing there. The phone is quite amazing. And before anyone says "oh you dropped it, that could have to do with the errors in the camera", NO. The camera worked just fine until what I described above. Samsung has done quite a magnificent job with this device (and all of their hardware, {I own a 26" computer monitor that kicks ass too}) making it resilient to adversity.
Now please, help me out....
I am hesitant to try the OMAP_flash as I haven't found decent documentation. PLEASE PLEASE post a link.
As I said I can always "lose" the phone and get a new one through insurance. So I'm not worried about screwing the phone, I just want to LEARN about the issue at hand.
What do YOU think is causing this issue?
If someone could post a link to the relevant info about the OMAP_flash then I will be happy to go forward with it.
Aside from all this I am shocked at the relative dismissal of this thread. I am seeking information from experienced members who have expertise on this device and while many are available I have gotten no replies as of yet. (this is not to discount those who have replied as I am very grateful for those suggestions as well) Please take two minutes and give me your thoughts. I don't believe this issue is similar to any other posts here and if you do believe it, kindly point me in that direction.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f63...-i9100g-via-usb-cable-freeeeeeeeeeee-1465412/
Here's a link, sorry I didn't post soon - I don't check back here often..
patrioticparadox said:
(still have not yet OMAP_Flash'ed as I haven't found SOLID documentation on this yet.) (Google searching led me somewhere but left me confused. Please post documentation or the correct link if you have it and thank you) I am open to trying anything. Understand that my bottom line is giving Asurion $50 USD. "I LOST my phone, send me a [new] one". Phone gets replaced and I get to trash the old one. Sweet for everyone right? Wrong.
I don't give two runny, stinky butt creams about the phone itself. Which is not entirely, or honestly, even close to true. I'd hate to see a Nexus that can be saved be completely obliterated. If its totally bricked (which its very hard to do to a Nexus) then go for it. Smash that ***** up! But if, like mine, its recoverable then you owe it to the developer to try to save it. This Galaxy Nexus SCH-I515 reminds me of my SCH-a950. I loved that phone and literally (because of a now EX girlfriend) BEAT THE LIVING SNOT OUT OF IT. I literally threw it at my front porch as hard as I could from a good 30 yards away and yet it survived. Not only did it survive, it thrived. Never failing me (even until I finally upgraded) despite the "wear and F'ing tear" I had inflicted upon it.
I have actually dropped my Nexus several times. I have a massively cracked screen that I would love to show you all, yet the screen still functions as if there were no crack. I can click on the "options" toggle that is in the bottom right corner of many apps as if there were not a MASSIVE chunk of screen missing there. The phone is quite amazing. And before anyone says "oh you dropped it, that could have to do with the errors in the camera", NO. The camera worked just fine until what I described above. Samsung has done quite a magnificent job with this device (and all of their hardware, {I own a 26" computer monitor that kicks ass too}) making it resilient to adversity.
Now please, help me out....
I am hesitant to try the OMAP_flash as I haven't found decent documentation. PLEASE PLEASE post a link.
As I said I can always "lose" the phone and get a new one through insurance. So I'm not worried about screwing the phone, I just want to LEARN about the issue at hand.
What do YOU think is causing this issue?
If someone could post a link to the relevant info about the OMAP_flash then I will be happy to go forward with it.
Aside from all this I am shocked at the relative dismissal of this thread. I am seeking information from experienced members who have expertise on this device and while many are available I have gotten no replies as of yet. (this is not to discount those who have replied as I am very grateful for those suggestions as well) Please take two minutes and give me your thoughts. I don't believe this issue is similar to any other posts here and if you do believe it, kindly point me in that direction.
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Jesus, will people stop talking about insurance fraud........
It's these kind of people that people in your country have to suffer higher insurance premiums, and the very same group of fraudsters are complaining about high insurance premiums..
Regarding OMAP flash:
1) Remove battery
2) Open device manager
3) Plug your phone to your PC/laptop
4) Right click on OMAP4460, go to properties
5) Drivers tab
6) Update drivers, direct to the OMAP flash folder
7) Run the .bat
8) Reflash a ROM just in case.
I don't think it going to do a reg reset for the camera by default..
This is from: Targets/Definitions/definitions_omap4.txt
CONTROL_CORE_PAD_CAM_GLOBALRESET 0x4A1000C0
It is pulled in and used by:
Targets/Configurations/configuration_omap4460_tuna_8g.txt
CONTROL_CORE_PAD_CAM_GLOBALRESET needs to set for the correct location -- I have not done any digging, so I don't know what the location is..
Just Found this -- https://github.com/omapconf/omapconf/wiki
omapconf can be used to read/write/modify any register from within Android..
Mach3.2 said:
Jesus, will people stop talking about insurance fraud........
It's these kind of people that people in your country have to suffer higher insurance premiums, and the very same group of fraudsters are complaining about high insurance premiums..
Regarding OMAP flash:
1) Remove battery
2) Open device manager
3) Plug your phone to your PC/laptop
4) Right click on OMAP4460, go to properties
5) Drivers tab
6) Update drivers, direct to the OMAP flash folder
7) Run the .bat
8) Reflash a ROM just in case.
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Insurance fraud? Um get a life! That's not why their premiums are high you ass! They do it to make more money you jack knob. My company charges $65/yr with a $25 deductible with up to 5 claims a year! That's so much better than asurion. And they give you a piece of **** replacement. Is all about money not the customer...now please me nice. Great ideas come from working together not from being an asshat!
Hello xda-developers,
as I searched for a long time and didn't find anything useful, i decided to post here on xda for the first time.
My problem is the same as mentioned in this post or in the youtube video:
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It is not possible to pull the notification bar down in horizontal mode. In landscape mode, there is no problem. The screen is not reacting in this area, even in ladscape mode -> the navbar is not working in landscape mode.
This problem started a few days ago on Resurrection Remix (Marshmallow 6). After it did start, i flashed back to Stock G3 Rom and it still consisted.
Then the screen worked for a few hours again, thus it thought "Fine, it's working, you can flash back". I flashed to CM13 and it worked fine.
After a half day, it didn't work again. So, thats the normal case: It is working for a few hours and then it is not, for 4 days now.
I don't know what this could be and I wanted to ask you guys, if you have any idea, what to do...
So, I would be very happy, if you could answer my following questions:
1. Is it possible, that it is something with the software? I though, that every time I flash a new ROM the whole software is new and bugs are "away"... If this is true, than my problem can't be a software problem. Especially that I've flashed back to Stock, which does install everything new...
2. If it is not software, could it be hardware? But that's not really logical because it works sometimes. Only thing is a loose connection. But can there be a loose connection, which makes the screen not working only on this smart area of the screen?
3. As I flashed Stock ROM, there was the area thicker, because the notification bar was thicker. This absolutely makes no sense, does it? It seems, that the system says "Oh, thats the area which the notification bar covers, let's deactivate it"
4. Do you have any other ideas what to do?
I'm afraid of sending it in because I think, that it will work, when LG is testing the phone.
Excuse my english, i know that it is not the best:angel:
I hope, you can help me because this is a very ****ty problem...
Thank you in advance and lets discuss about it
Arkas96
Same here
**BUMP**
I can sometimes get it down from the upper left, but not always. For me it sometimes shows a persistent touch and the top center of the bar until I lock and unlock it again. Its definitely a software issue. Wish somebody would look into this!
Awkward Problem
Hello,
Nice to have an answer even in it is not a good one
I "fixed" the Problem by sending it to LG service. THREE TIMES. It really took 3 times that they found the Problem. Changing the touch panel solved it for me.
Hope everybody with this Problem finds a solution. Good luck
Some background info.
I bought my pixel XL from the Google store and I believe it came with the 63L build out of the box. I have since made it a point to completely wipe and fastboot flash the latest image Everytime an update is release, right now I am on the 26U build. The only thing I have done to my phone (and these bugs happen before and after) is bootloader unlock and root.
The bugs.
Every once in a while, my volume controls will quit working. I notice it happen more if I cast to my Chromecast and play a song or video (seperate) on my device. I'll hit the volume button and literally nothing will happen. To fix this I usually have to turn the display off, wait a few seconds, wake it back up, then the controls work fine again. I do not believe it is a hardware issue because i can fix it Everytime it happens.
The second bug, probably the most annoying, is that my nav bar will become completely unresponsive occasionally while in landscape orientation. Say I'm watching a video on YouTube in full screen, if I swipe to pull out my nav bar and hit the home/recent/back button, nothing will happen. I will see the animation however no vibration (feedback) or a action occurs.
This happens in games, YouTube, web browsers, doesn't matter as long as my phone is in landscape mode. Also note that when this happens, my device refuses to rotate back to portrait. This leaves my only solution (same as the volume bug) to turn off the display, wait a few seconds, and then I back on. Sometimes, however, this don't even work, and I'll have to jump straight to settings from my lockscreen to force the phone to portrait where the functionality of the nav bar returns.
I've contacted google, they run me through the typical steps "delete cache, have you tried a reset, update to the latest software", but nothing fixes it. They have told me repetitively it's not a common problem and it's not a problem that's worth rma'ing over.
I've been discovering my pixel has many small issues that no one else has. Such as the horrible transfer speed explain in my earlier thread, these bugs above, refusing to charge when the device is off, etc.
Has anyone had similar problems?
@noidea24,
I've had none of those issues. In fact, my Pixel XL has been flawless.
Not good. I guess I'm going to try and force a RMA.
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I've contacted google, they run me through the typical steps "delete cache, have you tried a reset, update to the latest software", but nothing fixes it. They have told me repetitively it's not a common problem and it's not a problem that's worth rma'ing over.
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Sorry to nit, but when I read the statement above I can't help but wonder if you actually did a factory reset. Reason I say that is you stated "have you tried a reset" and you didn't explicitly state that you did.
I kind of doubt the responsiveness stuff you're referring to is hardware related, it's probably software.
Whether or not a rogue app is affecting your device or a root app is impossible to determine without doing a factory reset and carefully adding one app/change at a time until the problem comes back. It's a PITA but that's what I'd do first to rule out hardware, and I'd simply run email and messaging apps unrooted for at least 24 hours to rule out hardware issues before I start loading up my favorite apps.
muzzy996 said:
Sorry to nit, but when I read the statement above I can't help but wonder if you actually did a factory reset. Reason I say that is you stated "have you tried a reset" and you didn't explicitly state that you did.
I kind of doubt the responsiveness stuff you're referring to is hardware related, it's probably software.
Whether or not a rogue app is affecting your device or a root app is impossible to determine without doing a factory reset and carefully adding one app/change at a time until the problem comes back. It's a PITA but that's what I'd do first to rule out hardware, and I'd simply run email and messaging apps unrooted for at least 24 hours to rule out hardware issues before I start loading up my favorite apps.
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A factory reset is far from a pain in the ass, and yes, i have done it many times. the only things that makes it suck is when i have to transfer files back to my device because (as mentioned) i have terrible transfer speed from pc to device.
i have literally done everything i can to make this devices worth the price, and things are only getting worse. Since the post (later that night) i factory flashed once again, and re locked the bootloader. No root, No extra apps, hell, the only apps i had on my phone to begin with were facebook messenger, and that pixel car racer, i dont use anything else. ive had an even worse bug come in where my phone completely freezes when opening google camera and swiping to the video section. ill have to hold power until it force resets.
ive been with xda since my Motorola droid, Ive built roms for the community for my lg g2 and my nexus 6. hell, i even built kernels for my 5x (not public), so im a little past your average user complaining about some things that dont work due to user error. these are legitimate device flaws and malfunctions, and i was simply asking if anyone else has experienced them. and since it seems no one has, i have deemed my device faulty. now i have to come up with $600 for a service hold to get it replaced.
My experience with Googles first official flag ship has been pathetic, and im hoping that this replacement device i get (eventually) will persuade me not to go back to my 6p.
Well if that's the case then yeah I hope a replacement device will solve your issues. Sounds like it will.
Didn't mean to rile you up, just looking for clarity.
Good luck!
Ok all, I'm getting quite frustrated with my P6P. Was on A12 and sideloaded the OTA for 13 Beta 4.1. I didn't want to lose any data but also didn't want to enroll in the beta program which would have pushed the OTA anyway.
Beta was working but definitely noticed a hit to battery life at first and some weird things like running warmer, phone being warm just sitting on the pixel stand fully charged, just generally not feeling right. The good news was, it seemed to have gotten a little better over the next few days of use but still not great so when I saw stable A13 released last week, instead of going back to 12, I committed to using the Android flash tool and fully flashing A13.
After flash, I chose to restore my Google One / Drive backup and omg the battery life was completely abysmal and running hot. We are talking losing 20% per hour of light usage, standby was losing 10%+ per hour and wasn't going into deep sleep at all. I thought at first it was my Galaxy Watch4 and the Samsung health app causing the majority of the issues but when I disabled "activity tracking" on the app, it didn't fully resolve the issues.
Other issues include: taking phone out of my pocket, screen sometimes doesn't wake up (I remember this was an issue with A12 but G eventually acknowledged and fixed but I guess it's back), connected via Bluetooth to my car (no Android auto) the ring tone is no longer playing when I get a call, generally feeling not as smooth, weird system usages showing up in accubattery and the Android battery manager as using good chunks of battery, etc.
At this point I got another idea: reflash A13 but don't restore from backup (which I hate doing because then I have to go through every single setting to find stuff I changed and set it again both in the system and on apps). It seems like that helped a little with stand by battery drain but still seems to be draining at a higher level while in use. The issue of screen not waking up sometimes is still present and now, I just saw this morning that I tap on the Google Play System Updates within the security menu and it does nothing. I was able to get into it yesterday morning and it found an update (still says July 1 though) but I didn't reboot to complete it until this morning. Now I can't get into it anymore at all. I also found some weird folders in my DCIM folder and another one that referenced icloud and iphone transfers but I've never been an iphone user.
I'm so frustrated with this phone lately and it seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get it to work right with multiple little things as well as battery drain.
Am I the only one? And if not, anyone have any ideas on how to fix my issues? Is it time to contact Google for an RMA? I was one of the launch day orders so I don't know if my specific hardware is the issue. I am now locked in to 13 bc of the bootloader thing, I didn't manually flash the BL to both slots, only used official flash tool which you'd think of this was a critical thing, Google would do that with the flash tool but I guess they can't get their left hand to recognize what the right hand is doing.
Just typing this post on Chrome browser for 10 mins, burned through 4% battery.
You're not the only one...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wddk1s
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Thanks for that reddit article but that's not exactly answering my questions. Yes I know I'm not the only one who's had battery issues and I've gone through all those steps up to and including reflashing cleanly and wiping.
What about the other stuff I'm having issues with? Anybody else experience any of those issues? Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
Essentially I'm debating on wiping again and/or reloading the OS again but if others are having the same or similar issues then it may just be Google being Google and releasing a buggy build (yet again).
Side note, I also just got a notification that Google One backup is currently running and to tap for more info but yet, I don't have it plugged it nor is the phone idle. It is on wifi though but I tapped the notification and nothing was happening. It said the last backup was at 3:37am. Also, I am now down another 10% of battery since posting this with barely any usage.
Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
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I've had no issues with 13 but didn't have any on 12 either. Day one phone too.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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I did what I thought was starting fresh the last time around (Sunday). Used the official flash tool and didn't restore anything from backup. All I did was add my Gmail accounts and then manually downloaded every app I use and then tried to set all the settings again in both system and apps to how I like them. Is there something I'm missing? Is there a difference between the pixel repair tool and the Android flash tool? What about the settings that are flash tool? I have them set to wipe, lock, and force flash everything. Not sure if that exists on pixel repair tool. I've also noticed a fairly large reduction in size of the backup that occured last night with the apps section showing only 44 apps at about 11.7MB in size when my previous backup was 60 apps at about 48.2MB. I'm thinking of just wiping/reflashing again for the 3rd time but restoring from backup this time since it really didn't make much difference.
How about the Google play system up bug thing? Can someone tap on it and see if it comes up checking for an update or if it does nothing like me. And when I say nothing, just the menu option to tap on just lights up but doesn't open anything. How about the issue with the screen not waking up if taken out of your pocket?
For what it's worth, I haven't started from scratch since I accidentally did last December (after originally setting my phone up in late October or in November). I used the Android 13 factory image over top of my existing install without wiping.
I'm under the impression that yes, there is a difference between the Pixel Repair Tool and the Android Flash Tool, but I've never actually used the Pixel Repair Tool. I know the first several months, at least, the Pixel Repair Tool hadn't yet been updated to work with the Pixel 6 Pro. It may have been updated since then, I just don't know for sure.
When I have wiped/factory reset in the past six years (starting with my Pixel 1), I always restore all or almost all data from Google's backup. I do have Swift Backup do automatic nightly backups as well, but I only restore data (through Swift Backup) for the apps that I really need to - definitely not very many.
Your settings for the Android Flash Tool sound fine.
Is the "Google Play System Up(date) bug where clicking on it doesn't do anything? If so, it doesn't do anything for me, either. Mine doesn't even light up, but I have dark mode on, plus using Pitch Black theme from AOSP mods.
I rarely have my phone in my pocket, so it probably just doesn't come up often enough for me to have noticed, so I can't confirm one way or the other.
Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Google Play Store v31.9.20-21 is rolling out and will fix that Play System Updates "bug".
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Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Here's another weird one.. apparently now I can't keep my phone on vibrate while in the car. For a test, I turned my ringer on and then tested it again.. low and behold, it rang through the speakers in my car. This is trash. I know Android enabled in-band Bluetooth audio years ago and I recall this same thing happening way back with my nexus 6p and each pixel I've had but this one. There was a setting in developer settings to turn that off which fixed it and allowed it to work correctly but with this phone, it worked out of the box so I never thought twice about it. I just checked the dev settings and it's nowhere to be found. I have no idea what A13 could have done to screw that up nor do I know if the dev setting even existed on this phone prior to A13. I just don't get it. I guess I could see if there's any updates to my car's multimedia system but I have an Audi and any software updates come from the dealer for a price. How dumb. I guess I'll be scouring the Audi forums for a fix on that.
Meh, the Google Play Store updates are irrelevant to me. So no worries there on my part, haha. But this phone's battery life has been rather questionable. I have, however, noticed that after being on the full A13 build for around a week or so and disabling 5G from the get-go that my battery now lasts MUCH longer. My phone does not seem to generate as much heat either - which is always a plus. But I also seem to have more phone/messaging reliability than I have had in the past with this device.
I am beginning to think that the modem and 5G has had the most to do with this phone's imperfections.
Also - for OP - but I have noticed that my phone often doesn't wake up with a single tap either - but only when the gyroscope stays mostly stationary for a longer period of time. When I pull the phone out of my pocket, it usually comes on with one tap. But if it has been sitting on a table or other mostly flat surface for a while, it takes two taps to wake the display.
Ultimately, I won't be getting the Pixel 7 Pro. I will, however, be getting the Pixel Fold which should launch at around the same time =).
I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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Well, aside from the bugs issue, as time goes on, more and more you need something besides what it ships with in order to actually have security and privacy. Google has fallen a very long way from the openness and respect that they once promised. The final straw for me was when they started working with governments to include and share covid contact tracing functionality.
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Apparently the 4th complete wipe and OS flash was apparently the trick to fix the majority of my phone's issues. I did restore from my backup this time because the last time that I started from scratch, it made no difference. I figured if it's still going to be buggy, I may as well have all my info and settings correct. It's now been about 24 hours. See below for status of my issues.
1. Massive battery drain - fixed for the most part. Still have to restrict Samsung Health app but for the most part, it seems to be back to normal.
2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
3. Play system update button broken - already found this wasn't an A13 bug. I still haven't gotten the fixed update of playstore but before this latest wipe and OS flash, I sideloaded the latest version and it fixed it.
4. Connected to Bluetooth in car no longer plays ringers out loud. - Weird one as I think this is part A13 because Google baked in a new BT stack that's been in development since A11 called gabeldorsche https://www.androidpolice.com/android-gabeldorsche-bluetooth-stack/ and partly my infotainment system in my car. I am not on the current version of the car's infotainment but since my car is a '14 Audi, it doesn't have OTA updates.
5. Heating up during normal use - seems to be fixed
6. Warm while on the pixel stand and fully charged - haven't been able to observe this one bc last night, I put the phone on the stand and by morning it was at 72% and not charging. No clue if that's a new bug or if it was just not sitting on there just right. Didn't really look into it but we'll see what happens tonight.
So that seems to be the majority. Overall the phone doesn't feel "weird" anymore and most things I was having trouble with appear to be resolved. Sort of ridiculous that I had to wipe and reload the OS 4 times though.
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2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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This one still may be around for me but perhaps not as severe as it was during the first 2 times I loaded 13. I just experienced it about an hour ago. Took phone out of my pocket to place on my desk at work and screen was black but the AOD did eventually come on by itself after about 10 long seconds. We'll see what happens.