SPMC vs. KODI - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was hoping someone can help me out. I have been running Fire TV boxes now for a little over a month and have enjoyed the use of KODI. Over the past couple days I have been reading about SPMC. As i understand it, Android development for KODI as we know will cease as this point? And SPMC will basically continue forward? I did install it on one of my fire tvs. The only thing I'm missing is a way to back it up. Running 4 firetvs, I use one to try out new addons and then will backup that one every week or so and push the backup to the other tvs. How does that work using ABDFIRE . Does it only backup the actual Kodi app on the firetv? And not SPMC? Or is there something else to use instead? Thanks in advance.

wdcspurs said:
I was hoping someone can help me out. I have been running Fire TV boxes now for a little over a month and have enjoyed the use of KODI. Over the past couple days I have been reading about SPMC. As i understand it, Android development for KODI as we know will cease as this point? And SPMC will basically continue forward? I did install it on one of my fire tvs. The only thing I'm missing is a way to back it up. Running 4 firetvs, I use one to try out new addons and then will backup that one every week or so and push the backup to the other tvs. How does that work using ABDFIRE . Does it only backup the actual Kodi app on the firetv? And not SPMC? Or is there something else to use instead? Thanks in advance.
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Haven't been following the SPMC business but I don't think its anything to worry about.
If the Kodi foundation want to continue the Android side of things then I'm sure they will find another dev. Or another dev will find them.
As for SPMC its still 'Kodi' but has some additional fixes for certain chips/things that the official codebase doesn't have.
As for backing up, how do you do it?
If you use Titanium then the package name is different so I don't know if there's a way to transfer them across.
If you use a plugin from within Kodi the you should't have any issues restoring from the backup.
I use it to backup to a share from which I can restore to any Kodi install around the house etc.
I don't use/like/trust backing up through adb. Had issues with it a while back that left a bitter taste...

wdcspurs said:
I was hoping someone can help me out. I have been running Fire TV boxes now for a little over a month and have enjoyed the use of KODI. Over the past couple days I have been reading about SPMC. As i understand it, Android development for KODI as we know will cease as this point? And SPMC will basically continue forward? I did install it on one of my fire tvs. The only thing I'm missing is a way to back it up. Running 4 firetvs, I use one to try out new addons and then will backup that one every week or so and push the backup to the other tvs. How does that work using ABDFIRE . Does it only backup the actual Kodi app on the firetv? And not SPMC? Or is there something else to use instead? Thanks in advance.
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SPMC v16 has a different signature than SPMC v15 and because of this install itself in a different directory name. ADBFIRE needs to be updated to pull it from correct directory, once developer updates it you will be able to back it up. BTW if you wish you can copy this directory manually in the mean time.

wdcspurs said:
I was hoping someone can help me out. I have been running Fire TV boxes now for a little over a month and have enjoyed the use of KODI. Over the past couple days I have been reading about SPMC. As i understand it, Android development for KODI as we know will cease as this point? And SPMC will basically continue forward? I did install it on one of my fire tvs. The only thing I'm missing is a way to back it up. Running 4 firetvs, I use one to try out new addons and then will backup that one every week or so and push the backup to the other tvs. How does that work using ABDFIRE . Does it only backup the actual Kodi app on the firetv? And not SPMC? Or is there something else to use instead? Thanks in advance.
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In adbFire,the package name for SPMC needs to be changed, you just need to add 16 to the end and click on save, if you go to the adbFire google help page its listed on there.

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Uninstalled XBMC but now XBMC launcher app keeps me from accessing KFTV Home

I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?
Zorak27 said:
I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?
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My guess is you need to do a factory restore. First post here tells you how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799779
And here is my recommendation. Do NOT use XBMC as a launcher for your AFTV. While that saves you 1 click, the bad points seem to out weigh that bit of laziness. Use FiredTV as the laucher, move xbmc so it's the first icon.
good luck.
Is it not possible that you install XBMC via adb and then restart?
The problem is the launcher prevents the FTV from rebooting so ADB isn't going to help. You need to boot into recovery and then do a factory restore. Guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898
I did this myself. Duh.
There is a newer version of XBMC Launcher available from Google Play (http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898) which fixes this issue.
See What's New for info.
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The problem is the launcher prevents the FTV from rebooting so ADB isn't going to help. You need to boot into recovery and then do a factory restore. Guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898
I did this myself. Duh.
There is a newer version of XBMC Launcher available from Google Play (http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898) which fixes this issue.
See What's New for info.
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Blonde question of the day: if I have SPMC installed (which replaced the AFTV launcher as default) will I be able to install this launcher for the dreaded day when I mess up SPMC and can't get into a launcher? Ie...will it still install and possibly prompt me to chose a default launcher (again)?
I assume this would be similar to deleting the default preference in Settings.
Ipse_Tase said:
Blonde question of the day: if I have SPMC installed (which replaced the AFTV launcher as default) will I be able to install this launcher for the dreaded day when I mess up SPMC and can't get into a launcher? Ie...will it still install and possibly prompt me to chose a default launcher (again)?
I assume this would be similar to deleting the default preference in Settings.
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Well SPMC comes in two flavors -- with or without the built in launcher.. If you want to use the XBMC launcher you need to have the non-launcher version of SPMC installed. Otherwise when you use your Home button the system gets confused.
When you launch the XBMC Launcher, you get a screen asking you to select which flavor of XMBC is your default. That way you can toggle back and forth with no issues, as long as SPMC is the non-launcher version.
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Well SPMC comes in two flavors -- with or without the built in launcher.. If you want to use the XBMC launcher you need to have the non-launcher version of SPMC installed. Otherwise when you use your Home button the system gets confused.
When you launch the XBMC Launcher, you get a screen asking you to select which flavor of XMBC is your default. That way you can toggle back and forth with no issues, as long as SPMC is the non-launcher version.
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Ah...now it makes sense. I must have taken for granted that SPMC only comes with built in launcher - I checked the semperpax page and see the difference.
Probably should try and change my install at some point, because I resisted putting the custom recovery (I just don't want to mess up Netflix SHD+DD....) therefore I have no system backup, just SPMC backup.
Zorak27 said:
I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?
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I'm probably too late, but it it's getting to the point of saying it can't find XBMC, then ADB should be up. Simply uninstall XBMC Launcher via adb using "adb uninstall se.blunden.xbmclauncher".
nyder said:
And here is my recommendation. Do NOT use XBMC as a launcher for your AFTV. While that saves you 1 click, the bad points seem to out weigh that bit of laziness. Use FiredTV as the laucher, move xbmc so it's the first icon.
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What bad points? It looks like the OP's problem was caused by a bug in a third party app (which appears to have since been fixed), not by XBMC itself. If you run my XBMC build or SPMC, both of which have launcher capabilities built in, you won't have this issue.
elmerohueso said:
I'm probably too late, but it it's getting to the point of saying it can't find XBMC, then ADB should be up. Simply uninstall XBMC Launcher via adb using "adb uninstall se.blunden.xbmclauncher".
What bad points? It looks like the OP's problem was caused by a bug in a third party app (which appears to have since been fixed), not by XBMC itself. If you run my XBMC build or SPMC, both of which have launcher capabilities built in, you won't have this issue.
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Bad points like:
XBMC takes up a bit of memory, so you can't always launch other apps (mostly games currently take up the big memory) from XBMC and if you are using it's launcher, then you are a bit sol there.
XBMC messing up and the launcher still takes you to it.
Uninstall XBMC without uninstalling the launcher messes you up (though I heard they fixed that, but people don't always upgrade to the latest version when it's not automatic).
You are missing out on other crap your AFTV can do if you just go into XBMC all the time.
Though I guess if you are a dev of an XBMC app, you might be more into selling the idea that the AFTV is a great XBMC machine and that is all you need it for.
But I understand, people just want it for a XBMC player, and they probably install the software and then leave it alone because it works. I don't blame them. Somethings when I get it to work, that is good enough. But that doesn't change my opinion that using a launcher to just load up the 1 program is silly and at the least, handicaps your system.
But tbh, I haven't used a xbmc launcher, so i don't know the specifics. What happens if you exit of out XBMC, does it just load it back up, or does it send you to the original amazon launcher? If the former, then crappy design, if it's the latter, then cool, that at least would clear up one or two of my bad points.
Okay, here's a bad point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/blocked-getting-settings-tabs-t2907505
Sounds to be that maybe a xbmc launcher wasn't really thought out by those who programmed it. Still going to say there isn't any bad points?
nyder said:
Bad points like:
XBMC takes up a bit of memory, so you can't always launch other apps (mostly games currently take up the big memory) from XBMC and if you are using it's launcher, then you are a bit sol there.
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I used to run into this every now and then, but some tweaking and setting my FTV to automatically reboot nightly seems to have cleared up the issue.
nyder said:
XBMC messing up and the launcher still takes you to it.
Uninstall XBMC without uninstalling the launcher messes you up (though I heard they fixed that, but people don't always upgrade to the latest version when it's not automatic).
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The XBMC Launcher app is quite different from having XBMC with launcher intent built in.
If you have the XBMC Launcher app, that app itself is actually acting as your home launcher, and it then calls XBMC to launch. The OP's problem (and the issue in the other thread) is that the XBMC Launcher app had a bug where it would still try to act as the launcher and would freak out if it couldn't find XBMC (to the credit to that app's developer, that bug has been fixed).
If you have a build of XBMC that has launcher intent built in, there's no additional app needed, and there's no chance of a similar problem.
nyder said:
You are missing out on other crap your AFTV can do if you just go into XBMC all the time.
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You can still access the FTV launcher through the Apps/Programs menu in XBMC. Every other app is also accessible in XBMC's Apps/Program menu. So no, you're not missing out on "other crap". It's still there and easily accessible.
nyder said:
But that doesn't change my opinion that using a launcher to just load up the 1 program is silly and at the least, handicaps your system.
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What handicapped these systems was (an old version of) the XBMC Launcher app itself, not XBMC. Not even a version of XBMC with built-in launcher intent.
nyder said:
But tbh, I haven't used a xbmc launcher, so i don't know the specifics.
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Don't knock it 'till you try it. If you use XBMC a lot, I'd recommend trying XBMC for Fire TV (mine) or SPMC (made by Koying of team XBMC). No matter which version you run, though, you might like some of the tweaks in my XBMC repo.
elmerohueso said:
I used to run into this every now and then, but some tweaking and setting my FTV to automatically reboot nightly seems to have cleared up the issue.
The XBMC Launcher app is quite different from having XBMC with launcher intent built in.
If you have the XBMC Launcher app, that app itself is actually acting as your home launcher, and it then calls XBMC to launch. The OP's problem (and the issue in the other thread) is that the XBMC Launcher app had a bug where it would still try to act as the launcher and would freak out if it couldn't find XBMC (to the credit to that app's developer, that bug has been fixed).
If you have a build of XBMC that has launcher intent built in, there's no additional app needed, and there's no chance of a similar problem.
You can still access the FTV launcher through the Apps/Programs menu in XBMC. Every other app is also accessible in XBMC's Apps/Program menu. So no, you're not missing out on "other crap". It's still there and easily accessible.
What handicapped these systems was (an old version of) the XBMC Launcher app itself, not XBMC. Not even a version of XBMC with built-in launcher intent.
Don't knock it 'till you try it. If you use XBMC a lot, I'd recommend trying XBMC for Fire TV (mine) or SPMC (made by Koying of team XBMC). No matter which version you run, though, you might like some of the tweaks in my XBMC repo.
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Thanks for the offer to try it, but no. I'm happy with my FireDTV launcher. I'm happy NOT running XBMC at the start, and I'm happy knowing that even if I uninstall XBMC (which i've done recently, to put in the kodi version), my system will still work right.
Anyways, I said my piece, I'm done with it. Hopefully we won't get many more post about the old launcher messing up peeps systems.
Thanks for all the useful info everyone, I ended up doing a factory reset, reroot, then installed a fresh xbmc. I was unable to connect to adb until the factory reset. Sticking with fired tv for now.

Uk Fire TV

Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
seymour71 said:
Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
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I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
helicon9 said:
I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Bugger. That's what I was afraid of.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Which firmware did your UK AFTV come installed with? Here's a list
http://www.aftvnews.com/software/
helicon9 said:
I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
eskay993 said:
Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
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I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
helicon9 said:
I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
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Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
seymour71 said:
Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
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Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
helicon9 said:
Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
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AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
helicon9 said:
I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
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Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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seymour71 said:
AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
eskay993 said:
Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
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Hmmmm, yes, i thought I'd read that. All the media is on a usb drive, so i'll check. Thanks.
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen. There's a guide below (look at the "Semi Bypass" Section). Been using it for a while and works fine, as long as you don't mind clicking a random icon to launch kodi.
http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Llama_.28automation.29_Events
I'm using mine with a NAS. I think attaching USB hard drives does require root.
I use SPMC (non launcher version) and it shows up in recently used apps at the top of Fire TV main menu, so no having to dig through the settings sub menus.
This may be because it's also in Amazon App Store (though shows as not compatible with Fire TV).
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launcher, then when I click on xbmc to launch it looks like it's about to boot but then just comes straight back to the fire launcher.
Ive also installed plex with side load and that works ok?
Do you have any suggestions? thanks.
eskay993 said:
A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen.
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Nice, thanks... alas too late, I have boxed my FireTV and put it on Ebay... too few apps that I like & want will work properly on this box, so I'm going to wait for a proper Lollipop Android TV !
chowynatt said:
I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launche
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I also had that with the first two versions I tried. I also tried to clean the data/cache on the app, see if that works?
seymour71 said:
Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
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sorry, I didn't try it and now my FireTV is in a box ready to be sold on ebay... I don't believe it will though, but don't know.
Mark

[Q] What can you do with a Rooted FireTV?

I have always rooted my phones, like the flexibility.
But the FireTV needs to be wife friendly, what are some of the benefits of rooting this device?
What are the reasons for rooting any device? Same here
I was looking for example's... On my phone backing up apps is important. I can think of no reason to back up an app I would be using on fire TV.
I was hoping for examples of things that can be done on a rooted FireTV that can not be done on a non-rooted one.
Thanks
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ekeefe41 said:
I was looking for example's... On my phone backing up apps is important. I can think of no reason to back up an app I would be using on fire TV.
I was hoping for examples of things that can be done on a rooted FireTV that can not be done on a non-rooted one.
Thanks
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Well, since the last update i feel like im using less root features but im definetly not one to advocate factory resetting (unrooting) You just dont know if there will be something you need in the future & imo you forfeit control to amazon if you unroot or choose not to root when you can.
I might want to flash a custom rom. Thats probably the best reason i can think of to keep root. As far as "wife friendliness" from my personal experience youre looking at apple tv 3, but skills vary from person to person. Theres really nothing about my rooted aftv that differs from stock as far as basic user experiences.
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I was hoping for examples of things that can be done on a rooted FireTV that can not be done on a non-rooted one.
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1- A true Kodi launcher is probably the best feature that also provides access to Amazon content. Never have to see that wretched Fire TV home screen unless wanting to access Amazon content.
2- The ability to have usage of USB external storage above and beyond what Amazon is now offering.
3- The ability to add the Google Play Store to the Fire TV.
I'm sure there are even more reasons for rooting a Fire TV. With root this device is no longer Amazon centric and I prefer it to be just this way.
A few of the obvious ones:
- Mount NTFS usb drives with StickMount
- Full control of the FireTV (edit hosts file, run custom scripts etc...)
- Custom Recovery menu
- Custom bootmenu
- Custom Roms (CyanogenMod, possibly CentOS etc... in the future)
- Ability to downgrade to older firmware versions
- Ability to re-add any features amazon remove in future
You basically have absolute control of the device and can do with it what you like. It's not a requirement for the FireTV to be a great device, but I think it rooted AFTV is worth 10x a non rooted device, but that's just me
ekeefe41 said:
I was looking for example's... On my phone backing up apps is important. I can think of no reason to back up an app I would be using on fire TV.
I was hoping for examples of things that can be done on a rooted FireTV that can not be done on a non-rooted one.
Thanks
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I have one fire tv rooted and one non rooted. On the rooted fire tv I have a 128 gig ssd connected to my fire tv, so I can install pretty much as many games as I would like. Although the new firmware allows the use of usb drives it is still limited. An example is Asphalt 8 will only put the basic app on the usb drive not the 1.4 gig data. I can backup my entire fire tv not just apps. So once I have everything the way I like I can protect that setup with a backup. I am using Squarehome tablet and it is very customizable if you have root. It works without but some important features like themes don't work as well without root. I can customize Squarehome and make my home screen look like whatever I want. I can have some of my favorite apps or all my apps on the home screen, and I can have them with tabs such as Games, Entertainment, System, Video or whatever. I don't have to worry about SPMC or Kodi running out of space, or creating an xml file to move thumbnails etc. I can connect my PS3 controller using sixaxis which I believe requires root. I don't have to buy amazon's controller for $40. With root I can use wallpapers and themes on whatever launcher I'm using. No one has to root their fire tv but once you do you'll see many benefits. It becomes your device and not Amazon's where all you can do is buy their movies games and apps.
Really the only reason having mine is rooted is beneficial is that it boots right into Kodi.
roligov said:
A few of the obvious ones:
- Mount NTFS usb drives with StickMount
- Full control of the FireTV (edit hosts file, run custom scripts etc...)
- Custom Recovery menu
- Custom bootmenu
- Custom Roms (CyanogenMod, possibly CentOS etc... in the future)
- Ability to downgrade to older firmware versions
- Ability to re-add any features amazon remove in future
You basically have absolute control of the device and can do with it what you like. It's not a requirement for the FireTV to be a great device, but I think it rooted AFTV is worth 10x a non rooted device, but that's just me
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NTFS is apparently the ONLY file system that the FTV/latest pre-rooted firmware does not mess with. (This was driving me crazy.) If you are running OSX you can follow this excellent video on how to enable read/write NTFS on your Mac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-2NCRcylK0
I've been using Stick Mount Pro from day 1 of root. Had a few issues mounting every now and then, but it's been working flawlessly the last few releases.
mcsephoenix said:
Really the only reason having mine is rooted is beneficial is that it boots right into Kodi.
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How did you do this?
cpugeeker said:
How did you do this?
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This thread explains it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
Adblock and Custom launcher *without using llama or whatever* are the only reasons you should need to want to root your firetv.
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Adblock and Custom launcher *without using llama or whatever* are the only reasons you should need to want to root your firetv.
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I use root mainly for quicksupport to help my family and friends. You cannot do that without rooting and google play is needed to buy emulators that work very well on the firetv. Expanding basic storage it around the horizon for me as my space is getting very limited.
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Really the only reason having mine is rooted is beneficial is that it boots right into Kodi.
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You can do that on a non-rooted FireTV with Llama.
dk1keith said:
I have one fire tv rooted and one non rooted. On the rooted fire tv I have a 128 gig ssd connected to my fire tv, so I can install pretty much as many games as I would like. Although the new firmware allows the use of usb drives it is still limited. An example is Asphalt 8 will only put the basic app on the usb drive not the 1.4 gig data. I can backup my entire fire tv not just apps. So once I have everything the way I like I can protect that setup with a backup. I am using Squarehome tablet and it is very customizable if you have root. It works without but some important features like themes don't work as well without root. I can customize Squarehome and make my home screen look like whatever I want. I can have some of my favorite apps or all my apps on the home screen, and I can have them with tabs such as Games, Entertainment, System, Video or whatever. I don't have to worry about SPMC or Kodi running out of space, or creating an xml file to move thumbnails etc. I can connect my PS3 controller using sixaxis which I believe requires root. I don't have to buy amazon's controller for $40. With root I can use wallpapers and themes on whatever launcher I'm using. No one has to root their fire tv but once you do you'll see many benefits. It becomes your device and not Amazon's where all you can do is buy their movies games and apps.
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If I may resurrect this old thread, I have a few questions about how specifically some of these feats are accomplished:
1. How specifically does root allow one to work around the problem of games like Asphalt 8 insisting on keeping its large amount of data on internal storage?
2. What tool do you use for doing a full Fire TV backup?
3. This might be related to number 1, but how specifically do you keep Kodi/SPMC from burning up all the local storage without resorting to the custom xml to move thumbnails, etc. route? (I never could get that technique to work anyway).
mcsephoenix said:
Really the only reason having mine is rooted is beneficial is that it boots right into Kodi.
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How did you get it to boot directly into Kodi?
Thanks,
-Nigel
Where's the guide!!!???
Help
mcsephoenix said:
Really the only reason having mine is rooted is beneficial is that it boots right into Kodi.
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I’m not by any means a technology wiz but I just purchased this from amazon and heard from a friend he jailboke this and prompted me to look online on how to do this was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction ?
Aftvnews.com
But current software revisions aren't rootable.

Best version of kodi for fire TV stick?

Hi guys
I have ordered a fire TV stick which should be here today for the upstairs TV and wondered what version of kodi runs best and what everyone else running? I use an Intel nuc as my main kodi device with version 15 beta 1 and that works really well. I did previously have an Amazon fire TV a few months ago and ran spmc. Is spmc still the one to go for?
Cheers
rob77 said:
Hi guys
I have ordered a fire TV stick which should be here today for the upstairs TV and wondered what version of kodi runs best and what everyone else running? I use an Intel nuc as my main kodi device with version 15 beta 1 and that works really well. I did previously have an Amazon fire TV a few months ago and ran smpc. Is smpc still the one to go for?
Cheers
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Some swear by spmc (latest) and some will say there's really no reason anymore to use spmc on android devices. You'll get different answers. I don't use my ftvs that much but tried both and honestly they both worked fine for me.
You know you can install both, right? So maybe setup helix and spmc (haven't tried isengard but I'd wait on that) then judge for yourself.
Btw--mine is running helix 14.2 and I'm not experiencing issues but your results could be different.
Thanks KLit75
I installed spmc in the end. It works well just cannot get it to show up in recent apps using the guide on here. Weirdly it showed up okay on my fire TV just won't on the stick.
Mine shows up on both my sticks, did you sync your account?
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Yeah I tried syncing and unsyncing lots of times but it just would not show up. I also tried deleting spmc from my amazon account and then buying it again. Could it be that I have spmc 14.2 installed and the version on the Amazon app store is a different version?
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Yeah I tried syncing and unsyncing lots of times but it just would not show up. I also tried deleting spmc from my amazon account and then buying it again. Could it be that I have spmc 14.2 installed and the version on the Amazon app store is a different version?
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Are they different? If so that might be the reason. I use llama through adbfire. It accomplishes the same thing and its easy.
The one on the app store is version 13.4.0. Or so it says on the Amazon page.
Yes I am using llama as well now. I have it set to load instead of ikonoTV and have replaced the icon with spmc. Works really well
Dont use Kodi, use SPMC. Its the same exact app however i hae never experienced an ounce of buffering or any other bugs using it. Its in the play store and ull have to sideload it obviously but if u want a bug free xbmc experience thats the way to go
I'll have to try SPMC. I've been having loads of trouble with Helix 14.2
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I'll have to try SPMC. I've been having loads of trouble with Helix 14.2
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If u do try SPMC when u open it for the first time ull get a message saying that u r missing the .obb file and it will close. I have uploaded the .obb file to my cloud storage and u can download it here.....
https://mega.co.nz/#F!NMY3XAQA!osUKjZn0jZ9OBE8ecrTIAw
once its downloaded ull need to paste it in /sdcard0/android/obb/com.sempax.spmc Once u do that SPMC will open and ull be good to go
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If u do try SPMC when u open it for the first time ull get a message saying that u r missing the .obb file and it will close. I have uploaded the .obb file to my cloud storage and u can download it here.....
https://mega.co.nz/#F!NMY3XAQA!osUKjZn0jZ9OBE8ecrTIAw
once its downloaded ull need to paste it in /sdcard0/android/obb/com.sempax.spmc Once u do that SPMC will open and ull be good to go
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Thanks. I saw that and copied your files just in case, but I didn't end up needing them. I loaded the latest SPMC on and it opened just fine. I even got it to sync with Amazon and show up on my recent apps section without any issues. Unfortunately I also found that my Fire TV Stick is a piece of crap and won't stay connected to my network so I couldn't really test out how it plays.
I suspect most of the issues I've been having with Kodi stem from the Stick's inability to stay connected to my router. Last night it was so bad it wasn't even usable. It couldn't even get into the settings without it fighting me since they are locked with a pin that needs to verified via Amazon and it couldn't stay connected to get the verification. I contacted Amazon support and they are sending me a replacement due to arrive tomorrow. Hopefully it will work properly.
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I'll have to try SPMC. I've been having loads of trouble with Helix 14.2
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For 5 days I've been running isengard. Made the switch because it's compatible with fire TV skin
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207475
For an alpha skin, it sure hasn't been acting like it. I've had no serious problems. Occasionally it will crash on launch. I fix this by clearing cache just once. (For some reason I find if I try to hit clear cache more than one time it won't launch. But that's really common.
You also might want to rethink your setup. I install addon installer and only get the addons I use.
I'm running isengard on all my aftvs and I see no difference between that and helix/spmc which is a good thing because I wasn't experiencing many problems with either.
i havnt had any connection issues at all with my fire stick. r u sure its not ur router or router configuration?
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i havnt had any connection issues at all with my fire stick. r u sure its not ur router or router configuration?
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I'm not sure, but the old Fire TV stick continually got worse until it was unusable and it was the only device having issues. I have a replacement now and so far it's been working better.
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KLit75 said:
For 5 days I've been running isengard. Made the switch because it's compatible with fire TV skin
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207475
For an alpha skin, it sure hasn't been acting like it. I've had no serious problems. Occasionally it will crash on launch. I fix this by clearing cache just once. (For some reason I find if I try to hit clear cache more than one time it won't launch. But that's really common.
You also might want to rethink your setup. I install addon installer and only get the addons I use.
I'm running isengard on all my aftvs and I see no difference between that and helix/spmc which is a good thing because I wasn't experiencing many problems with either.
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Cool. I think I'll go ahead and try Isengard.

Can rooted Fire TV 2 launch directly to Kodi?

I recently rooted my Fire TV 2 and wanted to have it launch straight to Kodi like my original Fire TV does (using either Elmerhueso version or SPMC). Just found out that Xposed isn't yet available for Fire TV 2 since there is no custom recovery yet.
Does that mean this feature isn't yet available? I know about Firestarter but would prefer to go straight to Kodi rather than having a bunch of apps on the screen first. Thanks.
It maybe an option once Rbox gives us the recovery/custom rom which shouldnt be too far away now? But at the moment NO we cant.... But there is an option in Firestarter that once launched it will boot to any app you choose, so say you choose Kodi then once your Fire Tv device boots up after a little while (about roughly 5-10seconds) it will start to boot Kodi. For now this should surfice for what you what until the new stuff starts getting created after custom rom & recovery is released.
Hope this helps mate
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It maybe an option once Rbox gives us the recovery/custom rom which shouldnt be too far away now? But at the moment NO we cant.... But there is an option in Firestarter that once launched it will boot to any app you choose, so say you choose Kodi then once your Fire Tv device boots up after a little while (about roughly 5-10seconds) it will start to boot Kodi. For now this should surfice for what you what until the new stuff starts getting created after custom rom & recovery is released.
Hope this helps mate
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Thanks for the idea. Is it worthwhile then for me to do anything else with my newfound root? The main thing I like the Fire TV for is to use Kodi so I'm guessing until we get Rbox's method there isn't anything else worthwile for me to do. I did disable updates.
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Thanks for the idea. Is it worthwhile then for me to do anything else with my newfound root? The main thing I like the Fire TV for is to use Kodi so I'm guessing until we get Rbox's method there isn't anything else worthwile for me to do. I did disable updates.
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If you have a wired console or pc controller around the house you could install an emulator or 2 & play some old console games? Look in the Q&A section of this Fire TV thread & your see my compatible sideloaded apps & accessories thread if you need it & it will save you some time trying out different apps or accessories to see if they work or not?
Have fun & press that thanks button If this helped you
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ks-man said:
I recently rooted my Fire TV 2 and wanted to have it launch straight to Kodi like my original Fire TV does (using either Elmerhueso version or SPMC). Just found out that Xposed isn't yet available for Fire TV 2 since there is no custom recovery yet.
Does that mean this feature isn't yet available? I know about Firestarter but would prefer to go straight to Kodi rather than having a bunch of apps on the screen first. Thanks.
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uses titaium backup and freeze kftv launcher, after that you can switch the launcher.
obviously make sure you have another launcher already installed before you freeze kftv
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uses titaium backup and freeze kftv launcher, after that you can switch the launcher.
obviously make sure you have another launcher already installed before you freeze kftv
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Wow I wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig doing that for the first time! Does this really work for the AFTV2?
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Wow I wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig doing that for the first time! Does this really work for the AFTV2?
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I cant remember if the official Kodi apk has the launcher intent or not to allow it to be set as default, I know SPMC does though but thats a little outdated I think as most of the Android specific changes were merged into the main Kodi branch.
I only quickly had a play the other week as its boxed back up till rbox's custom ROM and recovery.
I think I had to freeze the Kindle Launcher and use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.blunden.xbmclauncher&hl=en to launch Kodi as default.
Be warned though, freezing KL will also stop a lot of other things working like the FTV settings page etc and you'll need to unfreeze to access them.
Better off waiting for Xposed and hopefully rbox kindly ports his modules to allow alternative launchers without freezing.
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I cant remember if the official Kodi apk has the launcher intent or not to allow it to be set as default, I know SPMC does though but thats a little outdated I think as most of the Android specific changes were merged into the main Kodi branch.
I only quickly had a play the other week as its boxed back up till rbox's custom ROM and recovery.
I think I had to freeze the Kindle Launcher and use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.blunden.xbmclauncher&hl=en to launch Kodi as default.
Be warned though, freezing KL will also stop a lot of other things working like the FTV settings page etc and you'll need to unfreeze to access them.
Better off waiting for Xposed and hopefully rbox kindly ports his modules to allow alternative launchers without freezing.
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This is what I use on my 1st gen Fire TV to get launcher capabilities. I'm still on an old version (13.2 I think) but it appears he has updated it to 15.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
I have used an app called autologin. works on rooted and non rooted devices. allows you to launch multiple apps with begining delay and delay between apps. easy to configure. I set it on firetvstick with 12 sec delay after statrup (firestarter) then 5 sec between apps (kodi)
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This is what I use on my 1st gen Fire TV to get launcher capabilities. I'm still on an old version (13.2 I think) but it appears he has updated it to 15.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
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Yeah this was the mod I was talking about (launcher intent). This is what the Xposed module will allow but without using a modded apk.
Nothing wrong with using elmerohueso builds but be aware you wont be able to use Firestarter to update Kodi as the modded apk has been signed differently. To update you'll have to use adb to sideload the new apk everytime theres an update.
Theres several ways to achieve Kodi as a launcher but like most things on the AFTV, for every upside theres also several downsides...
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I have used an app called autologin. works on rooted and non rooted devices. allows you to launch multiple apps with begining delay and delay between apps. easy to configure. I set it on firetvstick with 12 sec delay after statrup (firestarter) then 5 sec between apps (kodi)
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Not heard of that one but Ill take a looksy, especially if it works on unrooted!

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