Hi everyone, I'm back to the W10M scene now that I got a new battery for my Lumia 625 and I would like to ask if anyone knows where unfinished update data goes in the system memory so I can delete it?
I have my 625 rooted with WPIntenals and the updates failed (multiple times) but the system now still takes up almost 6GB and I would like to free up some of that space as I have only a 8GB internal memory, I already checked the usual update download folders in Data and can't find anything nor can I find any spkg files by searching so I think there might be some sort of other files that take up that space because I am pretty sure it only took up about 2-3GB before. So does anyone know what files I'm looking for and where they are?
Does no one know?
Now I have only 200MB free on my system and it's only cause of the update that keeps failing, I didn't install anything new in weeks and I anyway have it set to install to SD card. If this keeps up I will be left without any space free on the system.
What Storage said?
augustinionut said:
What Storage said?
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Storage reports System is taking 7GB something, can't say exactly now as my phone is dead.
Softreset. Hardreset. Reflash only if not rooted.
wats telemetry data(2-3 mb). can find that on system> storage>this device>temp files
regds
niz
nizuak said:
wats telemetry data(2-3 mb). can find that on system> storage>this device>temp files
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niz
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That folder is empty unfortunately but it also does seem like it stopped eating up any more space even though I got lots of "Couldn't download updates" messages so I'll just leave it as this with those 200MB free.
Ok... phone\data\shareddata\dushared\packages
or phone\windows\servicing\packages do not erase nothing from this folder. After hardreset ...bum, blue sad face..
Data\ProgramData\SoftwareDistribution
It's safe to delete the entire folder (i did twice), but it won't stop the updates from failing.
augustinionut said:
Ok... phone\data\shareddata\dushared\packages
or phone\windows\servicing\packages do not erase nothing from this folder. After hardreset ...bum, blue sad face..
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I unfortunately do not have anything in dushared.
TheBITLINK said:
Data\ProgramData\SoftwareDistribution
It's safe to delete the entire folder (i did twice), but it won't stop the updates from failing.
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This did free up 2GB data, thanks a bunch.
And yes, unfortunately there seems to be no way to stop the updates, none of the registry keys that would work on Windows seem to work on W10M. (except not connecting to wi-fi and setting your data connection to metered that is)
TheBITLINK said:
Data\ProgramData\SoftwareDistribution
It's safe to delete the entire folder (i did twice), but it won't stop the updates from failing.
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There seems to be a way to actually prevent windows update from doing it's job, I have removed all the update data and then modified the hosts file redirecting all the links I could find listed online (and with fiddler) to be related to windows updates to 127.0.0.1 and now the update just sits on 0%, it's been a couple of hours already so I am pretty positive that it won't start the download, perhaps if this was done on a clean install (before the phone even noticed there is an update on the server) it would just never detect an update again.
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Has any one got a solution to why the android market will let you download some apps but not others. This problem only happens with certain apps.
Contacted one of the app developers, and he thinks there may be a problem with my data partition.
I'm on stock rom, latest froyo update, and have not rooted. thanks, in advance, for your help.
Do you get an error message?
I just get the message installation unsuccessful
Try resetting ur phone and clear cach or make a different Google account
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Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
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Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
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+1 for this but if not can you list some example apps so we can see if it's just you (B. East) or not?
The apps i seem to have a problem with are, Cordy the game, storage analyzer, and gun brothers game. I some times have problems with updating from the market. I have to un-install some apps then download them again to update. this happens when the app has been moved to the sd card, but not with all the apps that I have moved to the sd card
B. East said:
The apps i seem to have a problem with are, Cordy the game, storage analyzer, and gun brothers game.
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No problems here. This is going to be something up with your phone.
B. East said:
I some times have problems with updating from the market. I have to un-install some apps then download them again to update. this happens when the app has been moved to the sd card, but not with all the apps that I have moved to the sd card
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Not all apps like being on the SD Card. Do all your apps specifically say they have been updated to allow them to be moved to sd card?
You may have to move them to phone if they continue to cause issues (and to be honest, with a 1GB internal memory, putting apps onto a slow sd card really isn't worth doing.
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Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
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Did you try this?
If all of the above fails to work you will probably have to factory reset the phone.
I tend to download using wifi, going to try downloading over 3g and see if that makes any difference, if not, will do a factory reset. thanks for the help though.
Before you do that you still haven't said if you cleared the market cache. Did you?
yes, i done that, tried to download again and got a message, "could not install on USB storage or sd card". First time I have seen that message.
Is this whilst trying to update an app or download a new one?
If to update then move the app to the phone first.
this is trying to download a new app.
Had a quick Google and found something to try.
mount the phone so you can access the sdcard.
Set to show hidden files
Go to folder .android_secure
Delete a file in there smdl2tmp1.asec
Then try again.
thanks, I will give it a go. can I use a file explorer to do this, because am not sure how you mount the phone, I am quite new to android, use to use winmo mobiles
you can yes, my favourites are Astro, Linda and ES.
I had a look in android_secure, made sure all hidden files would be visible, and could not find any files at all. checked to make sure that the hidden file visible setting in the file explorer was switched to the correct setting, and could not see any files at all.
Have I lost some files? if i have i have no idea how. do I need to do a factory reset?
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I had a look in android_secure, made sure all hidden files would be visible, and could not find any files at all. checked to make sure that the hidden file visible setting in the file explorer was switched to the correct setting, and could not see any files at all.
Have I lost some files? if i have i have no idea how. do I need to do a factory reset?
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Damn. When I found that possible solution I noticed that as many people said they did have it as said they didn't. I was hoping you would be lucky.
In this case the same file (apparently this is a known bug and has been marked for next version fix) is being stored in the system directory of the phone and without root you can't get access to it.
I'm afraid the only way to clear it (without root) is a factory reset, sorry.
thanks for your help, I will factory reset and see what happens.
I have E4GT with Caulkins 2.9.1.
I have the following storage available on my device:
SD Card 24.25GB
USB Storage 3.25 GB
Device Memory 1.23 GB
I get the following error when trying to update apps, or install new apps:
"There is insufficient space on this device"
I have gone into settings>apps>google play> clear cache. -> no change
I have downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files. -> no change
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
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The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
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How do I find dangling files in explorer. Is there a was for me to determine which ones are wasted files?
before i read your reply i went into recovery and wiped cached and dalvik cache, thought it worked, because i was finally able to install or update about 3 apps, but then got the same error on the 4th app.
so those steps that have been suggested by others on different devices but with similar errors, did not resolve this issue on E4GT.
thanks for any additional help.
This may help http://bit.ly/GNQOZh take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
It's usually, but not always, as simple as looking for files with the name of the program imbedded. The most recent program for me was AudioGalaxy.... so I just searched for and deleted any reference to the program that didn't look essential.
If you're REALLY stumped, then download a program from the Market like Log Viewer, which shows you the real-time system log of your Android operating system. That's how I discovered that a failed file copy was being misinterpreted as a full disc in the first place. It also will show you the name of the file being copied or moved and into which directory. Helpful hint: cut and paste the log into something like Notepad for easier reading.
By all means empty out your caches... but only to remove a potential file that's causing you a problem. Like I said, you haven't run out of free space.
Good luck!
A common source for this error is also that there are partitions on your phone that are not visible in the system settings, but which can fill up too.
If you open a console on your device, i.e. with terminal emulator, and type "df" you should see every partition and how much space is free on it.
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This may help take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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App Cache Cleaner isn't really that thorough.
Try SD Maid.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? http://mikemartinezonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/03.png I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? ] I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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I cleared the app cache there, and still had the issue. I also went into recovery and cleared cache, dalvik cache.
I didn't try the SDMaid method, so if someone else has this same problem, that may be a place to try.
I ended up starting with scratch with my device, and just upgraded to calkulin 2.9.2.
now my device is functioning as expected, and i can finally install angry birds space...
Well same problem shows up again.
updated to Calkulin 3.0, in hopes to resolve the problem, but still no go.
insufficient space when trying to install or update app from google play.
SD Card: 3.25GB Free / 29.7 GB
USB Storage: 7.29 Free / 11.50 GB
Device: 1.29 GB Free.
It's kind of annoying, is this something that would be resolved by going back to stock. This is getting a bit annoying.
thanks again.
Which app?
Edit: Have you tried clearing data for google play in settings/applications/all yet?
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When I boot up my phone, the first thing it says that there's not enough space to complete some kind of action(see attached picture below). I have more than 2GB free space on sdcard and almost 6GB free space on external sd, even in file system root I have 1gb/2gb space.
I have cm10.
what does it mean? what does it want? and why does it says that? and what "action" does it talk about??
I wouldnt care if it will be just this message,but since it started this, the phone seems to be more unstable(sometimes it loses wifi/cell signal,have to press lock button 3 times to wake up,and stuff..), so I decided to make a clean reinstall anyway, but it would be great if some of u had any ideas what causes this
I've experienced something similar. I use to mount the storage on my win7 laptop and use to copy/delete files from them. Suddenly it was not letting me copy anymore telling me that the storage is out of space and when i saw it it showed free space which got me confused.
So i went ahead and set windows to show all hidden files and OS files. On the storage there was a "recycle bin" having 1.6 gb of data . I deleted the folder and all was fine.
Maybe your's is a completely different issu,e but you can check for the above.
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I've experienced something similar. I use to mount the storage on my win7 laptop and use to copy/delete files from them. Suddenly it was not letting me copy anymore telling me that the storage is out of space and when i saw it it showed free space which got me confused.
So i went ahead and set windows to show all hidden files and OS files. On the storage there was a "recycle bin" having 1.6 gb of data . I deleted the folder and all was fine.
Maybe your's is a completely different issu,e but you can check for the above.
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hm, I set it to show all hidden and "protected os files" (I have windows 8 on my netbook), but no "recycle bin" can be seen.. :S maybe I'm missing some more options to show that, or looking in the wrong place
I am unable to update to any new build ATM because my memory is full of failed updates. My Temporary files for build updates is over 2gb and nothing I have tried can clear them out. I don't want to go through the trouble if rolling back or hard resetting, I just want the garbage gone!
I can't recall offhand which directory it was, but after enabling Full FileSystem Access and connecting to PC, I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored. There were hundreds of folders in there with number and letter strings for names, so nothing is easily identifiable. And of course it wouldn't let me delete anything either.
Does anyone have any idea how to identify and delete these failed updates?
Hardreset.
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Hardreset.
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I specifically stated i don't want to do that.. But I know, because this OS is full of holes that's probably the only solution.
Still though, there has to be away to delete the files. If we can replace in-use files like the notification icons on lock screen, we should be able to remove dead update files.
"I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored."
Where?
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"I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored."
Where?
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I'll look again and let you know. I'm pretty sure I saved a print screen of it on my laptop.
You need to enable Mass Storage with WP Internals.
I would love to know where they are stored, keep us updated
Sorry for the delay.. here is the screenshot of the directory i mentioned.
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Sorry for the delay.. here is the screenshot of the directory i mentioned.
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Delete all in this directory? This is needless files?
In the Downloads folder i believe, yes. However they can't simply be deleted, it does not allow it. I'm taking an educated guess that this is where the update files are stored, as it's a similar directly to where the PC stores Windows Updates.
ive managed to delete the temporary files and clear up every bit of space they took up. im going to post a guide for this, so check it out if you need help.
I've a Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite, but all my music and pictures get randomly removed all the time and then I need to download them again.
I don't remove them myself for clarity.
I guess the cleaner app removes it but there is no option to add them to exceptions and there is also no option to turn off auto clean.
This is a very annoying problem and I'm tired to download all my music and pictures over and over again so how can I solve this?
Googole said:
I've a Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite, but all my music and pictures get randomly removed all the time and then I need to download them again.
I don't remove them myself for clarity.
I guess the cleaner app removes it but there is no option to add them to exceptions and there is also no option to turn off auto clean.
This is a very annoying problem and I'm tired to download all my music and pictures over and over again so how can I solve this?
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Maybe your device has something like "storage manager" active?
Go into settings and then storage, see if you find something suspicious.
Uninstall or disable cleaning app... you really need to play with your device more.
That cleaner app sounds more like malware
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Uninstall or disable cleaning app... you really need to play with your device more.
That cleaner app sounds more like malware
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I've found out that Cleaner is useless and is just a waste of space so I removed it.
I hope my problem is solved.
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Maybe your device has something like "storage manager" active?
Go into settings and then storage, see if you find something suspicious.
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I've made a screenshot of the Storage page.
Screenshot_2021-04-19-11-09-51-509_com.miui.securitycenter.jpg
drive.google.com
I don't know if it is suspicious but Other is 8,61GB
Removing Cleaner didn't solve my problem.
I download my music from Google Drive and all music downloaded from there is gone now.
The songs that I didn't download from Google Drive aren't removed.
The most of the pictures are removed too, but some didn't.
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Removing Cleaner didn't solve my problem.
I download my music from Google Drive and all music downloaded from there is gone now.
The songs that I didn't download from Google Drive aren't removed.
The most of the pictures are removed too, but some didn't.
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Well If so, have a look at gdrives settings.
Also: Are gdrive files in another folder than those not being removed?
Could be malware... you know odd behavior.
The OS or an app may have been corrupted.
A factory reset be a good idea at this point.
Self destructing files aren't normal.
Is it just Google stuff that's vaporizing?
If so maybe deleting/recreating your Google account might solve it.
I'm leaning towards a full nuke of that OS though.
I don't trust Google with any of my data management other than Gmail. I backup and load everything from the SD card, flash stick and hdds.
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Could be malware... you know odd behavior.
The OS or an app may have been corrupted.
A factory reset be a good idea at this point.
Self destructing files aren't normal.
Is it just Google stuff that's vaporizing?
If so maybe deleting/recreating your Google account might solve it.
I'm leaning towards a full nuke of that OS though.
I don't trust Google with any of my data management other than Gmail. I backup and load everything from the SD card, flash stick and hdds.
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True, could be malware.
A malware checking app would be a first step. If you can run adb on your computer you can check for modifications made on the file system (as you operate as "shell" instead of "root" (unless you are rooted) you won't be able to read everything. Actually you'll get "access denied" very often. But if you find system directories/files with another date then the 'standard recovery date' this could be a sign for malicous activity)
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True, could be malware.
A malware checking app would be a first step. If you can run adb on your computer you can check for modifications made on the file system (as you operate as "shell" instead of "root" (unless you are rooted) you won't be able to read everything. Actually you'll get "access denied" very often. But if you find system directories/files with another date then the 'standard recovery date' this could be a sign for malicous activity)
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There's another possibility, a malware jpeg.
I ran into two in the last 15 years, one a year ago on my N10+. Downloaded from a site into the download folder it corrupted many files in that folder. Some only had damage to the file name and were easily repairable, some were not.
Deleted all I couldn't repair or was in doubt about especially the tainted jpeg.
If that jpeg would have been moved to another folder the same thing would have happened.
The only way to stop this type of malware is to find the infected jpeg. It may not show up on many or any virus/malware scans. I found this one because I noticed the damage immediately after viewing it in downloads. If one one these gets in your database they are little nightmare. One reason I keep downloads in the Download folder for examination, especially jpegs, are these little nasties.
Not real common but they're out there.
blackhawk said:
Could be malware... you know odd behavior.
The OS or an app may have been corrupted.
A factory reset be a good idea at this point.
Self destructing files aren't normal.
Is it just Google stuff that's vaporizing?
If so maybe deleting/recreating your Google account might solve it.
I'm leaning towards a full nuke of that OS though.
I don't trust Google with any of my data management other than Gmail. I backup and load everything from the SD card, flash stick and hdds.
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I've done a factory reset earlier but it didn't solve the issue.
All music and the most of the pictures downloaded from Google Drive are removed all the time.
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True, could be malware.
A malware checking app would be a first step. If you can run adb on your computer you can check for modifications made on the file system (as you operate as "shell" instead of "root" (unless you are rooted) you won't be able to read everything. Actually you'll get "access denied" very often. But if you find system directories/files with another date then the 'standard recovery date' this could be a sign for malicous activity)
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I'll check for malware and I'll let you know what the results are.
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There's another possibility, a malware jpeg.
I ran into two in the last 15 years, one a year ago on my N10+. Downloaded from a site into the download folder it corrupted many files in that folder. Some only had damage to the file name and were easily repairable, some were not.
Deleted all I couldn't repair or was in doubt about especially the tainted jpeg.
If that jpeg would have been moved to another folder the same thing would have happened.
The only way to stop this type of malware is to find the infected jpeg. It may not show up on many or any virus/malware scans. I found this one because I noticed the damage immediately after viewing it in downloads. If one one these gets in your database they are little nightmare. One reason I keep downloads in the Download folder for examination, especially jpegs, are these little nasties.
Not real common but they're out there.
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All my pictures are in the .jpg format
Create a folder in the root directory (not in any other folder) of your storage
In this folder create another two folders - one for music & one for pictures
Move all pictures & music to these folders
This will eliminate sync from apps deleting anything as they shouldn't have access to these folders
If they are still being deleted after this then the user is telling an app to delete them (intentionality or unintentionally)
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Create a folder in the root directory (not in any other folder) of your storage
In this folder create another two folders - one for music & one for pictures
Move all pictures & music to these folders
This will eliminate sync from apps deleting anything as they shouldn't have access to these folders
If they are still being deleted after this then the user is telling an app to delete them (intentionality or unintentionally)
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Thanks for your suggestion, I'll try it and let you know what the result it.
I've downloaded MalwareBytes, scanned my phone but it didn't find any malware @blackhawk
Googole said:
I've downloaded MalwareBytes, scanned my phone but it didn't find any malware @blackhawk
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Since you said you did a factory data reset there must be an app somewhere which is responsible for that.
I would check Google Drive – I don't even have a google account so I can't check it, but maybe GDrive is deleting files automatically.
Is it ONLY GDrive files being deleted?
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Well If so, have a look at gdrives settings.
Also: Are gdrive files in another folder than those not being removed?
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I've looked at the Gdrive settings, but I couldn't find anything related to the problem.
The Gdrive files are on Google Drive and those not being removed and removed are in my internal storage.
User699 said:
Since you said you did a factory data reset there must be an app somewhere which is responsible for that.
I would check Google Drive – I don't even have a google account so I can't check it, but maybe GDrive is deleting files automatically.
Is it ONLY GDrive files being deleted?
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I've checked the Google Drive settings but I couldn't find anything related to the problem.
Only files downloaded from Gdrive are deleted.
Files downloaded from other places aren't deleted.
Googole said:
I've checked the Google Drive settings but I couldn't find anything related to the problem.
Only files downloaded from Gdrive are deleted.
Files downloaded from other places aren't deleted.
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And GDrive downloads them into Downloads folder?
If not you could try to move these things into another folder and see whether they will be deleted again or not.