So XBL games up until now for Windows Phone haven't all been that great... Well there are some good games but Microsoft aren't really utilising the Xbox Brand and bringing over serious games. Had a little idea while playing Dreamcast, it might be something they're already working on actually.
If you remember the Dreamcast it had a VMU (Visual Memory Unit) which was a memory card with a tiny screen and a few buttons you could play mini games on. For example, you catch Flickys in Sonic Adventure, transfer them to the VMU and play mini games with them when you're away from the console.
There's already rumors of Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 having the same core, this presumably ties into the Xbox as there was Xbox 360 code found in Windows 8 Betas. There's also Xbox Live cloud storage happening for Xbox and Windows Phone.
So... How about when you purchase an Xbox game you also get a Windows Phone companion game. For a game like Fifa you'd be able to play on the xbox and then on the go use your Windows Phone to train up players etc, same concept for fighting games.. Then when you get back to the Xbox changes that had happened on your windows phone (players levelling up etc) would be reflected in the main game.
For games like Halo etc you could play minigames witch allow you to unlock extra items, addons for the main game. This kind of concept has already partially been implemented in Fable Pub Golf.
This would solve the problem of having no big name games on Windows Phone but would also mean we would have games that are suitable for the Phone and not just ports which are hard to control.
They're already working on that; the best example being Kinectimals.
Cloud saving feature, that's all I can think of for now, though it's not really necessary because you won't be performing a hard reset, but what if you buy a new phone? I'm thinking of getting a new Nokia or HTC mango phone with ffc, but how about game saves and SMS on the older phone?
So there, maybe a save to cloud feature, or something like "easy transfer" like the one in windows 7 when migrating to a new PC.
I would like to see further development of the concept of using a WP7 device as an optional controller on the xbox. With the Wii-U having a touchscreen controller and the Sony making the PS Vita usable in that way, I think this might be a very real possibility. It might not work for every game but I could see it working well in others. For instance, in Madden you could download a companion app to go with the 360 version. You could use your phone to select plays instead of doing them on the screen.
I know they showed something sort of like that in the Kinect Adventures/WP7 demonstration video awhile back so the technology is obviously there in some capacity.
Edit: also regarding the OP's idea, I believe that sort of thing was talked about early on. You could download the mobile version of a game and earn unlocks and upgrades that would transfer to your console.
There are many many games out there that are playable on the new Atom powered tablets. Mafia 1 for instance looks great, probably better than any sandbox game for tablets.
And there are many more, think of diablo 2 for example.
The problem is, we lack the controls without a keyboard and mouse.
What I have in mind is an overlay control set including mapable keys and directional joysticks, like the ones most Android games come with by default.
Does anybody know if such an app exists? If someone were to make one, I'm sure it would sell like hotcakes provided the vast array of legendary titles windows can boas with.
So far all I have found are Comfort on-screen keyboard and hot virtual keyboard. They're quite expensive but I managed to play Need for Speed 5 and carmageddon TDR
What we need is joystick emulation, to be able to aim, even though without auto aiming, gaming on a tablet can be quite tricky.
Someone make a gummy stickonscreen Bluetooth capable dpad and buttons for our win8 tablets
Thankyou
I've been working on something like this.
It's all in .net, so it runs fine on Windows 8 and Windows RT. I still need to get it loading configs up properly (for customization), but I've got all the hard/tricky parts done.
It doesn't seem to like Quake, but it works great with DosBox.
So where do those keys come from? Are they built in dosbox?
Bec07 said:
So where do those keys come from? Are they built in dosbox?
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No, it's a program I made. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142997
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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I havent tried sideloading any purchased games but I have a purched utility app that wont work but the free version does, Has to do with drm. But I've heard people having success sideloading gta not sure if they were using a cracked version or not.
player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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Yes Side-loading works it mostly depends on the game... some paid games from the play store wont work because they need to authenticate with the play store to prove you bought the app. Also some apps simply don't work because they don't support controllers...
also as for your question about controllers yes it does support PS3 controllers I've seen several videos of people using them, not sure about others though... I think someone said Xbox 360 controllers work through USB but as long as your controller is either USB or Bluetooth it should work.
As for your last question about multiplayer There is an emulator for free in the OUYA store called Mupen 64 and it does support up to 4 players so you would just need to get a copy of the Mario 64 ROM and you could play Mario kart 4 players. Not sure about other emulators though it really depends on if the emulator supports multiplayer.
Hope this helps!
player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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The subject of should OUYA outright support the Play Store is something highly talked about on the forums (If you're interested: ) I've come to the conclusion that no, it should not be supported for the sake of both the OUYA and the gamers. WIth that said, you can always try sideloading paid apps and see if they work. If the game calls the Google Infrastructure as DRM, it will not work, but if the game only has local DRM and you manage to remove it (I know nothing about that) or there is no DRM at all, it will work. I have a few paid apps that work perfectly. One warning, though, I know for sure Square Enix games do not work without hacking the apk.
The controller support is awesome! There are other threads about confirmed controllers working, but I know for sure the SixAxis, Wiimote, and WIRED 360 (not the play and charge pack) controllers all work.
As to answer your question, this thing works as a great emulator machine. I've messed with a few emulators and they all support multiplayer, some even support multiplayer over network (i.e. between 2 OUYA's, may even work cross platform, like PC-OUYA or OUYA-Phone/Tablet, but I do not know for sure). I have not tried any over network play, but theoretically it should work.
For the most part you don't need to sideload any emulators, as most are already on the OUYA store. In fact, I wouldn't recommend using any sideloaded emulators unless you have to (i.e. none in the store) because they just won't work as well with the controllers or TV.
With that said, if absolutely nothing else (and there is a lot more I love about the OUYA), this thing is a GREAT emulator machine! Buy yourself a 500GB external HD, throw on all your games from the old 2600 to PS1 and you can play them all. They even have a semi-working DS emulator, along with a PSP one confirmed on it's way! There is even an NES emulator that has it's own indie game store built in!
Bottomline yes, it can do what you want and if you're into it for mainly emulation, you can't go wrong.
Yes sideloading works, I've played N64 with 3 people on Mario Kart 64.
I have 2 ouya controllers and a usb controller, worked perfectly fine. You just need to set the player controller number. SNES and N64 emus have the options to bind a specific controller to player 1 2 3 4 etc
Perfect! The controller was the big issue because like I said, other devices work with 1 device, but multiple controllers all read as Player 1. Even Mugen64. It isn't the emulator but the actual OS and how it handles controllers.
So I am super excited that lots of controllers are working. I have a Wireless 360 (PC Dongle), Sixaxis, Corded PC gamepad, and a Moga, along with a slew of Wii Controllers. I really just need a few controllers working at the same time for when friends come over and stuff. The software I am not too overly concerned about. I'd rather have games available that are SPECIFICALLY designed for the OUYA then a slew of mixed supported games.
I'm really wanting to pick one up. I already have a few 500+gb HDD's laying around I can dump roms too. Even my old 16gb USB Stick would suffice for most stuff.
Controller issues ans Play Store apps with costs
Hey guys,
this should be the right thread for my current main issues with the Ouya.
1. Yesterday I had some friends over and we tried to play Bombsquad with three controllers. I have two Ouya controllers and as the Ouya and also Bombsquad support other controllers like PS3 and Xbox gamepads I tried to connect a third controller. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to connect any of them (of course the Ouya controllers work fine). It seems thet the console doesn’t even recognize something being connected via USB. I tried to connect a Dualshock 3 Playstation controller via cable, a Xbox (wireless) gamepad via cable and a Xbox controller for windows (wired, Razer Onza TE). None of them were recognized by the system, neither in the game nor in the Ouya main menu.
Is there any special setting I have to apply in order to get them to work?
I know there is also the option to connect smartphones or tablets to play Bombsquad, but this is not an option because I have 5 controllers lying around and I rather want to make use of them instead of playing on my phone.
2. Also, I have a problem with the Google Play Store I installed on the console. I followed the instructions from the forum (Rooting the Ouya, installing Xposed framework, installing the Google Plus Store app). After starting the app for the first time I typed in my account detail and everything worked fine. However, I only have access to the free apps in the store and not to the apps which cost money.
How do I get access to the whole Play Store with all the apps?
Thanks for your answers and please let me know if you need further information.
Greetings from Germany
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I know we can use remote desktop applications like Splashtop to remote the PC and play PC games with little lag, maybe.
So I wonder if we can use "Limelight" (like Nvidia Gamestream on Nvidia Shield). With the same processor (Tegra 4) on the Surface 2 and the Nvidia Shield. But I am curious because it requires Java.
Is it compatible with Java (or Jailbroken Windows RT devices)? :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
FYI: https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
Remote desktop supported natively (doesnt work for many games though). VNC on jailbroken devices. Teamviewer and splashtop both in the windows store for non jailbroken devices.
There is IKVM on jailbroken devices which allows you to run some java applications. Its slower than an actual java virtual machine and not 100% compatible though. Thats the only java we have for RT.
The surface 2 can't be jailbroken though so VNC and IKVM are thrown out the window entirely.
Name says it all. Basicly want to know if i can run old exexutable files to install on the android tablet possibly in dex mode.
Reason why is i have alot of old games for pc like age of empires id like to port over to my tablet for long travel trips if possible.
Any and all feedback is appreciated. I do have the snes n64 ps1 emulators but i want to test the ability to play pc games with the keyboard and mouse
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
or
exagear for android
or
dosbox depending on versions of games
or scumm for very old games
Splashtop or rdp might work
You can use Steam and with a fast enough internet connection use cloud service like https://vortex.gg
I'm not sure if you can add your own games to their library. I have a gaming laptop so haven't used it.