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Hey guys, I just got a new Inspire 4G AT&T Branded and Debranded it and flashed ARHD6.1.1 and everything is super smooth and good.. I got one question. what is the meaning of 4GB internal memory if u only get 1.1GB after flashing a software? I have googled a bit and couldnt find a good answer. even 4EXT recovery doesnt show 4GB in system.... is it a scam? plz i need help
4G total, but system uses most, so that's why only 1.1 available to use. I for one wish they would just state what is usable. I don't care about the amount I can't use.
the Internal 4gb that AT&T refers to is actually the 4gb class 4 micro sd that comes pre installed in the phone when you purchase it..... the phone itself is the same as your run of the mill Desire HD's (including the telus ones) but with a different audio codec, and the housing has an at&t symbol on the back rather than "HTC".
in actuality, its only 1.5gb of space on the phone which is all the system apps to be installed on, and other apps you install off the market. (That 1.1gb you see is the data partition on that 1.5gb of solid state space)
Thanks guys for the info, but it came with 8GB card and i believe it has a second microphone close to the Camera, which i didnt have on my DHD. Also some people says the other 3GBs are used by system for speed purpose like L2/L3 cache, but its just a theory and i m not good at these stuff, thx anyway
I know the question title sounds self answering, but on my AT&T SGS2- it says 16gb on the box, but when I look at what is actually available for use, it says 11.36gb available.... total. But of course it has an SD slot. If the gNex only has 11gb available out of 16, that'd be a problem for me since it has no SD slot, which means I would wait. I'm debating on waiting for the 32gb or just ordering the 16gb version now depending on this info. Thanks for your accurate response
Total space available shows as 13.33GB
Mine also says 13.33 GB, but if you have apps synced/backed up to your google account it will install those as part of the "setting up" sequence, so your "available" storage will be less after set up.
also keep in mind if you have Google Music, then the cache will also eat up a lot
Ample space for a whopping 2 or 3 HD movies
Thanks! Question officially answered.
Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what's left of the 16GB after the OS.
mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what you get when you boot in fresh....
I have issues with mine, under storage it reports 1.3 gb for apps, 3gb for music/videos and 6gb free, I'm missing 3gb?? Windows reports 6gb free and 7.3 used?? The numbers don't match what happened to my 3gb?? Any help appreciated here.
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Bumping, greatly appreciate any ideas.
Thanks
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6.3 + 7 = 13.3 total. Exactly what the other guys told you they had. Zero problem. All storage works this way. You have 16gb of storage, but only 13.3 is usable (after format). Same with your computers hd. For example, if you have a 320 gb harddrive, once its formatted to usable space, you only see like 298gb. Same with your phone.
Edit: I Think you're asking two different questions. As long as both are reporting the same free space you are ok. Formatting "takes away" space, and the os takes up space. This looks about right to me.
When u buy a 1TB hard disk, and you connect it for the first time, you have c.a. 900/950 GB total space. free, even less.
It's normal, every device with 16/32/64 etc, has less total memory than stated.
This is why I asked what was available after a fresh install, replies I got were 13.3gb. My system settings under storage shows 1.39 for apps, 3.04 for pictures and videos, and 6.60 available for a total of 11gb roughly. So does the os take up 2.3gb?
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Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!
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Samsung might added fatty TouchWiz. That custom themes and its framework take more than stock android.
This is one of the few benefits that bests the GSM Version.
On Verizon, you get 4G with 32GB.
And I could care less about OTA.
So in the end, Verizon variant wins.
Only I miss out on accessories, white housing, and a slightly weaker development team compared to the GSM.
On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Yes, it does,
Thanks
ChitownWingMan said:
The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
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Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
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I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
ChitownWingMan said:
I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
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I did reply, i hope you got it, i typed quite a bit
But now that CM10.1 has HDR, i love it more Pics look phenomenal on the S3.
And im waiting for my back account to increase for the 16GB SGH-M919
I think I've got 2 roms installed on my phone, but one is inaccessible. I had installed a kdz and then I went to a custom ROM.
Thing is I'm thinking thus because I currently have 11gb free on my 32gb phone. The max I have available is 22gb which is about right but here's the thing, I only have 4gb of data actually used. I can't seem to see anything else and I'm a little lost on where the extra 8 has gone because there is nothing stored on my phone that I can account for that much space,
Does anyone have any ideas
Hi,
I wanna buy this cellphone but I'm a little worried because reviews say that out of the 16 GB of space, only a little more than 9 are available for the user, which seems a little low to install apps and a few games. How's your experience with this phone's storage?
Cheers!
actualy its more like about 5,5 to me
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actualy its more like about 5,5 to me
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Really?? That's bad...
Yeah, 16 GB is terrible in 2017 to be honest. If there isn't a 32 GB model then I'd consider jumping to the A5 2017 because I know for sure that has a 32 GB model, it's 5.2 inches instead of the A3's 4.7 inches which is a normal sized phone these days and is easy to handle, it's not that much more expensive than the A3, and it has much better specs including 3 GB of RAM instead of the 2 GB the A3 has. Trust me, 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal storage just isn't good enough for apps in 2017 and it'll start to lag in a few months (even my A5 stutters sometimes).
But if you still end up with an A3, you should know that it does come with a microSD card slot for expandable storage so you can move some of your apps to your SD card (games are usually movable), and if you ever plan to root your phone one day, you can move all your apps to your SD card.
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Yeah, 16 GB is terrible in 2017 to be honest. If there isn't a 32 GB model then I'd consider jumping to the A5 2017 because I know for sure that has a 32 GB model, it's 5.2 inches instead of the A3's 4.7 inches which is a normal sized phone these days and is easy to handle, it's not that much more expensive than the A3, and it has much better specs including 3 GB of RAM instead of the 2 GB the A3 has. Trust me, 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal storage just isn't good enough for apps in 2017 and it'll start to lag in a few months (even my A5 stutters sometimes).
But if you still end up with an A3, you should know that it does come with a microSD card slot for expandable storage so you can move some of your apps to your SD card (games are usually movable), and if you ever plan to root your phone one day, you can move all your apps to your SD card.
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It's actually the size of the phone (along with the price) that makes me wanna go for it (I love mini phones), but it's great to know that I can move apps to the SD card.
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Really?? That's bad...
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yep couldnt stay like this without root
RangoX said:
It's actually the size of the phone (along with the price) that makes me wanna go for it (I love mini phones), but it's great to know that I can move apps to the SD card.
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I think you should be taking specs into consideration more because the A3 is seriously weak in all departments (not just storage, but camera, performance, etc.). I'd recommend going for the iPhone SE if you really want a smaller phone or the Pixel at 5 inches maybe for a phone that's fantastic in all departments at a size that isn't that much bigger than the A3 (just 0.3 inches larger which you really won't notice after using the phone for a few minutes).
I'm just saying, the A3 won't last you a year and a half without becoming a slow nightmare. If you have the money you should definitely go for the iPhone SE or a Pixel which will last you two or three years before it starts becoming a hassle to deal with as those are actually quality compact phones while the A3 is more of a smaller, lower quality version of an already budget phone (the A5 2017).
Have had A3 2017 for 6 months and have to agree with above - don't bother! Was tempted by small size and price and battery life. But storage is always full despite only a handful of apps on it and photos, apps, videos being all on SD card. Useless.
the phone hardware is awesome for its price tag and it is a small phone that fits into our pockets.
i just got a new a3 2017 phone, which comes with lots of bloatware and there is no way to uninstall (not disable) them easily.
the development community has yet embraced this phone meaning, there is no official lineageos release for this phone and the same goes for twrp ([here is unofficial one][1]) and even the famous odin tool for flashing, supports only windows (guess i will have to use [heimdall][2]).
after playing with the phone for a day, i can tell that i really miss the following features:
- dark theme (with lineageos we could easily replace the builtin theme)
- vibration feedback (do not want to get a special keyboard application like swype to do the trick, as i want it system wide)
- haptic feedback for capacitive buttons (do not want to get a special application like [vibeonkey][3] to do the trick, as i want it system wide)
now that lineageos reached 15.1 maybe some of the guru developers here could provide us with an unofficial (not buggy) release of lineage 15.1.
i do not mind to get lineage 14.1 working, as it is better than the nougat version that was released by samsung.
ps, regarding the storage and in case you missed it, just use an sdcard or whatever this phone supports.
Code:
[1]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/development/recovery-a3-2017-t3758969#post75786071
[2]: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/
[3]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-vibeonkey-add-vibration-to-hardware-t3611532
i went on all android distribution and non has a working rom for the a3 2017...
there is no adoption to this phone, although it has a great hardware which fits into my jeans pockets.
if anyonw has another working rom for this device, please state so
oopsy, how can i delete it?
RangoX said:
Hi,
I wanna buy this cellphone but I'm a little worried because reviews say that out of the 16 GB of space, only a little more than 9 are available for the user, which seems a little low to install apps and a few games. How's your experience with this phone's storage?
Cheers!
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even after rooting the phone, i couldn't delete (not disable or hide) to reclaim space and i tried many free apps that suppose to do that.
are you familiar with any application that truly delete the system application?
this is how i finally deleted the bloatware:
1. root the device i used this twrp.
2. use titanium backup but before that do this
update, checkout this thread