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So the M360's Battery life is great now... So...why are the SnapDragon Ones so bad?

This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
Your thoughts?

Locklear308 said:
Your thoughts?
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We're just witnessing the power of software... if you have the latest processor you don't have to try that hard to get reasonable battery life.
But Motorola had bad PR from reviewers about battery life, so they were forced to optimize their code.
IMO, the fact that the life improved so much is what gets Motorola points for me. They could have made it just "good enough", but it feels like they really went all out hopefully they support this watch for a long time

Not sure where you are seeing they are being outperformed? If all things equal (both using always on set to off) G Watch battery will last much longer. The problem is that nobody compares the battery life of these devices using equal settings on both devices.

17 hours and you're at 60%?!?
I took it off at 8 am, and right now it's 3:20 pm and I am at 40%.
And I was in school the whole day so i only checked my watch for time and notifications
I have ambient off, auto brightness and lvl 1 brightness
are you using stock?
I just got this watch monday, so maybe the battery needs to set in, and I did get the latest update

My record is 50 hours with the simple watchface, ambient was off but I checked it plenty.

First day using the watch(got it yesterday). I finished school and I'm at 38% its around 5 pm and I took it off at 7:30 am. I used it a ton though, even showed off the little games to friends. Once it starts to set in, I'm sure I can get a day+ out of it.

I've gotten a good day and a half with this watch, it drains fast at first but as you use it, it will get better.
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That's some amazing optimization

I haven't had time to check the various battery life threads, but has anyone (with good battery life experiences), noted whether during the majority of their
daily time with the watch - they are within connection range of their phone and indeed remain connected?
Just wondering what being out of bluetooth range/not connected does to battery life? i.e. is it similar to the situation when a phone is "polling" for
a Wifi connection or polling for a phone network connection but can't find one so the constant polling activity results in higher than average battery drain..

I personally think that the battery life discussion is one of the silliest there is. I have been always burnt by saying how great battery is somewhere. Was it Galaxy S2, HTC M7, M8 or now Sony Z3, they are never THAT good. However on Moto 360 I am really happily surprised. Even from the first day on I have never had problem with the battery. Actually I have yet to see sub 20%levels on the Moto 360. I get it off charger around 7AM and put it back 11Pm or 12AM. I usually have around 30-40% left. I use automatic brightness and ambient off. I do get a lot of notifications.
But the much praised Z3 goes to charger much sooner than this watch. Sure, I couldn't go on for the next day but it doesn't matter if I can make 20 hours easily since I never sleep with my watch on the wrist.

So, you are saying you get 5hrs of battery life and that's great?
7AM - 12PM. That's only 5hrs. Lol
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i have noticed that having Facer and the other custom watch ups uninstalled (Facer especially) It helps me out with battery life big time.

Even when facer isn't running?
Uninstalling helps battery? I might try that today for shiggles.
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I've had the G Watch since it came out, and the 360 for a few weeks now. All things being equal, the G Watch goes an extra 12 hours easy, but it sure isn't as good looking as the 360, so it had been relegated to just morning gym sessions now.

Locklear308 said:
This popped up in my head yesterday. I'm loving my M360 with it's latest update that just made the battery life insane for me. 15 to 17 hours with 60%+ Left. Woot
But Now I am wondering...
The M360 has the oldest processor smallest battery...Yet it now out preforms the G Watch and Gear live...? What? Really making the others look like a joke now.
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My thoughts are that many of us get nowhere near those numbers, and you must be barely using your watch with almost everything disabled to get 2.35% per hour power consumption.
On my watch with latest firmware, reset after the firmware was installed, no apps at all, ambient mode off, step counter on, and default brightness, I cannot get below 3% per hour with almost zero usage, and hover nearer to 4% per hour with real-world (light to moderate) usage. At 17 hours, I would have at best 49% remaining, and more likely 32% remaining.
And that's with ambient mode off. Enable ambient mode and even with light usage and no apps at all, my watch will regularly fail to make it through a single regular, 16-hour day (that's the time between waking and sleeping with an eight-hour sleep cycle, which is the most a typical adult gets).
Also, what review have you seen with the G Watch or Gear Live using their latest-available firmware, so you can make a valid comparison? Because comparing the Moto 360 on its latest firmware against those devices on early firmware is utterly unfair and meaningless.

The Gear Live massively outperforms the 360 in regards to battery stamina. I don't understand how you guys are getting 50 hrs on a charge. I do like ambient mode, but I can still kill a battery in 12 hrs easily.

Horrible Battery Life even after multiple restarts and resets

Hey guys,
I reset the Moto 360 multiple times, didn't install any apps any other than keep and wear battery stats and still have a horrible battery life. The Moto 360 is used very lightly, so only some Notifications and sometimes a voice command and I get a drain of about 5-6%/hour or even more... So when i charge the watch to 100% at 6:30 am it does;t even last till midnight even though I barely use it. And that with the black classic stock watchface !! I made a test and reset the device again and wanted to see how much it drained in the night when I'm not using it at all, and it was 3%/hour which is terrible considering that this is the drain that some users here get with light usage! I would be happy if the watch would last from 6:30 am till 2:00 am next morning and some people seem to get amazing battery life. So I'm thinking of returning the device and getting a new Moto 360 because I'm really getting desperate.. Any Ideas from you guys? :/

5 to 6 percent per hour is normal

alex_cai92 said:
5 to 6 percent per hour is normal
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So it is also normal that it barery lasts 16 hours even though lots of people in the forum claim to get 48 hours(!!) so a 3 times longer battery life than I do ?

My average is 2.5 %/hour with moderate usage.

So you think I should return my watch? Because I don't get how u can achieve a battery life as great as yours. Maybe I got a bad device?
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thomas333 said:
So you think I should return my watch? Because I don't get how u can achieve a battery life as great as yours. Maybe I got a bad device?
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That's very difficult to answer. Currently I've installed additionally:
Facer
Calendar
File Manager Wear
Calculator
Triple game
Wear Battery Stats
Wear Mini Launcher
I use a Facer watchface ('Radiomir' with hour, minute, seconds, date and battery level), I don't play music, I do get around 60-80 notifications daily including those for breaking news, weather, emails from 2 accounts, workplace/home driving maps, I have disabled step-counter and ambient light mode, brightness is set to auto ...

Try "Advanced Task Manager" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wear.taskman to see wich app/face is running on your watch. Wear launch itself many face even if you do not use them. If nothing is running.... but if not .....

I use this. It works pretty good. I get about 3-4% a hour!!!

alex_cai92 said:
5 to 6 percent per hour is normal
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Well, no wonder.

Is this a normal battery usage pattern

Hey people!
Just got the Moto 360, first time battery really drained pretty quickly. Searched around forums, reinstalled the watch etc. It runs on 5.1.1 (and I am aware of the confirmed bug in Android). Though I'd like to share my second day of battery. Charged it yesterday to 94% at 23:00, reinstalled the watch. Had 78% left, didn't charge untill then. See the screenshot of the battery usage. Is this kind of normal?
Many thanks for your input! I am still doubting to get a other smartwatch with kind of slightly better battery life. Was hoping for 2 days, but it doesn't cut it. I have ambient off, wrist gestures off, tilt to wake off. I don't mind the watch being off actually. Just a quick tap to see the time is fine for me. I mostly did some google searches today and a short navigation test.
Maybe I'll get the Pebble Time... who knows. This watch is so perfect... but the battery is slightly average. How are you experiences towards the battery? Dealbreaker?

it getts better with time..
Jessestr said:
Hey people!
Just got the Moto 360, first time battery really drained pretty quickly. Searched around forums, reinstalled the watch etc. It runs on 5.1.1 (and I am aware of the confirmed bug in Android). Though I'd like to share my second day of battery. Charged it yesterday to 94% at 23:00, reinstalled the watch. Had 78% left, didn't charge untill then. See the screenshot of the battery usage. Is this kind of normal?
Many thanks for your input! I am still doubting to get a other smartwatch with kind of slightly better battery life. Was hoping for 2 days, but it doesn't cut it. I have ambient off, wrist gestures off, tilt to wake off. I don't mind the watch being off actually. Just a quick tap to see the time is fine for me. I mostly did some google searches today and a short navigation test.
Maybe I'll get the Pebble Time... who knows. This watch is so perfect... but the battery is slightly average. How are you experiences towards the battery? Dealbreaker?
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even I wasn't impressed on the first week... my battery used to run down to 35% (from 100) in 10 hours...
but the backup was better as time went on... also after 5.1.1 update (and a reset after update) the battery life is great....
now I get 60-65% left when I return home....
I use to charge to 100% and switch it off before going to bed and start my day with the 100%.
65% left by evening could do another day but I have never tried!

Jessestr said:
Hey people!
Just got the Moto 360, first time battery really drained pretty quickly. Searched around forums, reinstalled the watch etc. It runs on 5.1.1 (and I am aware of the confirmed bug in Android). Though I'd like to share my second day of battery. Charged it yesterday to 94% at 23:00, reinstalled the watch. Had 78% left, didn't charge untill then. See the screenshot of the battery usage. Is this kind of normal?
Many thanks for your input! I am still doubting to get a other smartwatch with kind of slightly better battery life. Was hoping for 2 days, but it doesn't cut it. I have ambient off, wrist gestures off, tilt to wake off. I don't mind the watch being off actually. Just a quick tap to see the time is fine for me. I mostly did some google searches today and a short navigation test.
Maybe I'll get the Pebble Time... who knows. This watch is so perfect... but the battery is slightly average. How are you experiences towards the battery? Dealbreaker?
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I know people have had issues with navigation and it not turning off when they are done. What were you doing during the part when the battery drained fast (looks like 1 to 5 pm)? When I go for a run with runkeeper on (using GPS) I see drain that looks like that for the hour to two that I am out. I have found for most normal days that I can make it through a day. Active days with a run will be 20% to 30% at the end of the day. Non-active days without a run will be 30% to 50% at the end. My day is 5:30 am to 10:30 pm.

My watch has been off charger since 7:30 this am. It is now 12:52 and the battery is at 66%. I'm not sure if this is good or bad as I just got the watch a few days ago. I have disconnected the WiFi as I don't need notifications when I don't have my phone on me. Is it possible to turn certain notifications off? I like getting notifications on my phones for like twitter feeds I follow or G+ but I don't want them on my watch. I do want texts and emails to my watch though...
Thanks in advance

dead batteries said:
My watch has been off charger since 7:30 this am. It is now 12:52 and the battery is at 66%. I'm not sure if this is good or bad as I just got the watch a few days ago. I have disconnected the WiFi as I don't need notifications when I don't have my phone on me. Is it possible to turn certain notifications off? I like getting notifications on my phones for like twitter feeds I follow or G+ but I don't want them on my watch. I do want texts and emails to my watch though...
Thanks in advance
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You can block individual app notifications from the settings in android wear app on your phone.
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Alex9090 said:
You can block individual app notifications from the settings in android wear app on your phone.
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Yeah I've looked into this but I can't find how to do it? I was hoping there was a feature like this. How do I access this?
Oops never mind, just found it...lol

Moto 360 Battery ****!

So I got my moto 360 about 6 days ago... I don't use any pre-installed apps too much.. I just use the watch to look at my time. The 3rd party apps I use are- Wear mini launcher and Wear Audio recorder... I just use them about 3 times a day and my battery life lasts around 7 hrs MAX! If I use my 3rd party apps, then its even worse. Yesterday I took my watch off the charger at 8:30 am and it barely made till 2 pm without 3rd party apps used. I tried factory resetting the watch twice. But with no luck. Saviours of XDA, please save me! I love this watch but this is a serious problem
P.S, I am running android 5.1.1 with android wear 1.3 and build number LCA44B.
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As you can see, my battery lasted from 6:00 pm to 10:00 pm. It was on 95% because it was charging when i took the screenshot... but you probably know that from the graph.

TechnoDeus said:
So I got my moto 360 about 6 days ago... I don't use any pre-installed apps too much.. I just use the watch to look at my time. The 3rd party apps I use are- Wear mini launcher and Wear Audio recorder... I just use them about 3 times a day and my battery life lasts around 7 hrs MAX! If I use my 3rd party apps, then its even worse. Yesterday I took my watch off the charger at 8:30 am and it barely made till 2 pm without 3rd party apps used. I tried factory resetting the watch twice. But with no luck. Saviours of XDA, please save me! I love this watch but this is a serious problem
P.S, I am running android 5.1.1 with android wear 1.3 and build number LCA44B.
"https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1l39-hLnG1HYnVRTE91ZTBjZTA/view?pli=1"
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As you can see, my battery lasted from 6:00 pm to 10:00 pm. It was on 95% because it was charging when i took the screenshot... but you probably know that from the graph.
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If you have any of the location settings turned on (on your phone settings>>location set to off), turn those off. If your not using Google card preview turn that off too. If your not using Fit disable that too. I took mine off the charger @ 9PM last night, it is now 3:45 PM and I still have 69%. I have all notifications going to the watch, email from 2 accounts, sms, calendar.
Basically, turn off anything you are not using. You always have the option of turning it back on. Ambient display is another battery killer as well as wrist gestures... I just tap to display.

Gage_Hero said:
If you have any of the location settings turned on (on your phone settings>>location set to off), turn those off. If your not using Google card preview turn that off too. If your not using Fit disable that too. I took mine off the charger @ 9PM last night, it is now 3:45 PM and I still have 69%. I have all notifications going to the watch, email from 2 accounts, sms, calendar.
Basically, turn off anything you are not using. You always have the option of turning it back on. Ambient display is another battery killer as well as wrist gestures... I just tap to display.
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Noob question, where can i disable those stuff you said
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Gage_Hero said:
If you have any of the location settings turned on (on your phone settings>>location set to off), turn those off. If your not using Google card preview turn that off too. If your not using Fit disable that too. I took mine off the charger @ 9PM last night, it is now 3:45 PM and I still have 69%. I have all notifications going to the watch, email from 2 accounts, sms, calendar.
Basically, turn off anything you are not using. You always have the option of turning it back on. Ambient display is another battery killer as well as wrist gestures... I just tap to display.
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Everything you said is already turned off for me. I go to school at 8:30 am and get back home at 3.00 pm. Today I took the watch off the charger at 8:25 am and at 3:00 pm, I had 54% left. So its better but definitely not as good as you. Since I can't take my phone to school, I switched on airplane mode.
I'm getting worried. Some people say that the battery life gets better magically about 2 weeks later. And yesterday I saw this video on youtube where a guy replaced his 6 hour moto 360 to get a new one which gave him more that 24 hours battery backup. The last date that I can replace my 360 from where I ordered it is 14th of October. Should I wait for 2 weeks or replace my watch? What happed with you? Did your watch perform poorly at the start too? Or did you have this amazing battery life from the start?

TechnoDeus said:
Everything you said is already turned off for me. I go to school at 8:30 am and get back home at 3.00 pm. Today I took the watch off the charger at 8:25 am and at 3:00 pm, I had 54% left. So its better but definitely not as good as you. Since I can't take my phone to school, I switched on airplane mode.
I'm getting worried. Some people say that the battery life gets better magically about 2 weeks later. And yesterday I saw this video on youtube where a guy replaced his 6 hour moto 360 to get a new one which gave him more that 24 hours battery backup. The last date that I can replace my 360 from where I ordered it is 14th of October. Should I wait for 2 weeks or replace my watch? What happed with you? Did your watch perform poorly at the start too? Or did you have this amazing battery life from the start?
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My battery life got better over time, but if you are concerned, replace it while you can. Nothing worse than wondering what if I would have gotten a new one....

Update!!
Gage_Hero said:
My battery life got better over time, but if you are concerned, replace it while you can. Nothing worse than wondering what if I would have gotten a new one....
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As I said, I got home at 3:00 pm. I have received notifications since then and used the watch more than I do at school. Its 8:45 pm and I still have 6% left. So I think I will keep it. Its definitely getting better. Today it went a little more than 12 hours. So yeah, its nice. Thank you for all your help by the way... I look forward for battery life like yours. Will post an update tomorrow.

Tinchoska said:
Noob question, where can i disable those stuff you said
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Disable location settings on phone, not watch... You can disable card previews in the android wear app.
Also, you can disable ambient mode from both android wear app and the watch itself.

TechnoDeus said:
Disable location settings on phone, not watch... You can disable card previews in the android wear app.
Also, you can disable ambient mode from both android wear app and the watch itself.
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Which one is the ambient mode on the watch?
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Tinchoska said:
Which one is the ambient mode on the watch?
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Go to settings on the watch, scroll down to ambient mode and turn it off. Search Google for more details.

I've done this and I cannot get CLOSE to the battery life you guys get. I lose about 10% an hour if it's connected to my phone. I can get better than that if it's in airplane mode, but it's not by much. Maybe 5%. I have Google Fit turned off, I let the battery drain to 0, reset SEVERAL times, reset PHONE several times.
I did the tips above, but I don't know if it will help. When I described my issue with Motorola, they said that it sounded like there might be a battery issue.
But, I can't tell. Is there something else I am missing?
I want to use Moto Body, have a Watchmaker Premium Watch Face, use "Ok Google", use a Pedometer, and have the watch connected to the phone with notifications. I've read arguments for both Moto Body and Google Fit, and how each is better than the other with regards to battery life, but I can't tell. I just want this watch to work!
FYI, I bought it a week ago and I wonder if the fact that the watch was sitting there for 6 months on shelf contributed to the bad battery life.
Your thoughts?

Update that improves battery life?

It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?

I just got my watch yesterday did an up date and not changing anything I'm still at 93% after coming off the charger at 0615hrs. My S2 or S3 never managed that. Lol
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Is step tracker better or?

vojopd said:
Is step tracker better or?
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Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?

fliptwister said:
It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?
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Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.

fliptwister said:
Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?
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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.

vojopd said:
There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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My step counter and HR monitor are working great.
Just out of curiosity I went out to Samsung's US forum (Samsung Community>Get Help>Wearable Tech>Wearable Tech) and I'm not seeing a significant amount of posts about issues with the Galaxy Watch step counter or HR monitor. Are you referring to another forum? Please post link. Even if there were a lot of posts how did you determine 90% of watches have these problems?

vojopd said:
There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.

I only got my watch a couple of days ago but i can tell you that I am into my 3rd day with this watch and i am currently on 65% battery with the 46mm bluetooth only version.
My setting are...
AOD off
Wifi off
Bluetooth always connected 24/7
Heart rate monitor on request only
Screen brightness on 7
Very impressed with this so far after coming from the huawei watch original which had to be charged every single day.

pkylle said:
Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.
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My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.

Tel864 said:
That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.
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I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.

fliptwister said:
My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.
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How do you turn Step tracker Off?
I Couldn't find any info or Setting...

fliptwister said:
I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.
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Actually the longest threads are about these problems with thousands of comments already and no solution. I also returned my watch because of the hr sensor not working reliably. I guess a lot of people just don't use the always on hr, because this is how you see that it doesn't work properly. It gets stuck sometimes leaving gaps on your charts and stays stuck for quite some time if you don't manually release it by some workarounds.