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Question regarding stock apps and other things...

Hi!
I got an M8 a few weeks ago, and regretfully wasn't thinking and allowed a few OTA updates.
So I was at firmware version 2.22.531.5, Android 4.4.3. There were 2 other OTA updates pending that I ignored because I realized that it may make it harder to root or s-off. I realize now I already performed the updates which would make Firewater not work.
I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed TWRP 2.8.0.1, then flashed the latest SuperSU.
Now the update notices stopped.
Few questions:
1. Does anyone know what updates beyond the version above were sent OTA, and how beneficial these updates are?
2. I'll probably get sunshine...but might wait. Can I install a different ROM without S-off?
3. Since I'm at 4.4.3, I may stay with stock until 4.5 (or whatever L is). But I definitely want to get some junk off the phone. I was going to use Titanium and uninstall a bunch of stuff... I have had a few HTC phones before and could identify what apps were part of the ROM framework, but it's not as easy to discern what apps I need to keep on this phone. Does anyone know of a thread that talks about what stock apps can be uninstalled? Or, in the alternative, if you have deleted apps, can you let me know which ones?
I know that's a lot of questions... Thank you in advance for any answers!

syntropic said:
Hi!
I got an M8 a few weeks ago, and regretfully wasn't thinking and allowed a few OTA updates.
So I was at firmware version 2.22.531.5, Android 4.4.3. There were 2 other OTA updates pending that I ignored because I realized that it may make it harder to root or s-off. I realize now I already performed the updates which would make Firewater not work.
I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed TWRP 2.8.0.1, then flashed the latest SuperSU.
Now the update notices stopped.
Few questions:
1. Does anyone know what updates beyond the version above were sent OTA, and how beneficial these updates are?
2. I'll probably get sunshine...but might wait. Can I install a different ROM without S-off?
3. Since I'm at 4.4.3, I may stay with stock until 4.5 (or whatever L is). But I definitely want to get some junk off the phone. I was going to use Titanium and uninstall a bunch of stuff... I have had a few HTC phones before and could identify what apps were part of the ROM framework, but it's not as easy to discern what apps I need to keep on this phone. Does anyone know of a thread that talks about what stock apps can be uninstalled? Or, in the alternative, if you have deleted apps, can you let me know which ones?
I know that's a lot of questions... Thank you in advance for any answers!
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1, pretty sure that's latest update
2, u can still install custom roms etc. u won't be able to downgrade firmware/change variant of m8 without s off
3, Check HERE

Thank you!
I had one follow up question...
If I had just gone with sunshine from the start (and not gone with the token from HTC to unlock the bootloader), would I have still gotten OTA updates?
Which change (custom recovery, unlocked bootloader) stops the OTA updates?
Thanks to anyone again in advance!

syntropic said:
Thank you!
I had one follow up question...
If I had just gone with sunshine from the start (and not gone with the token from HTC to unlock the bootloader), would I have still gotten OTA updates?
Which change (custom recovery, unlocked bootloader) stops the OTA updates?
Thanks to anyone again in advance!
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you would have been fine with OTA from the start, the following stops OTA updates:
custom recovery installed
missing system apps removed
incorrect firmware etc

You can freeze apps with Titanium, and if doing so doesn't cause any issues, go ahead and uninstall.

exocetdj said:
you would have been fine with OTA from the start, the following stops OTA updates:
custom recovery installed
missing system apps removed
incorrect firmware etc
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Ok...But before I read this, I was just going through settings and I checked the "check for updates" section, and it wants to install firmware version 2.22.531.6. So maybe if you are still using stock (despite installing custom recovery), you still get OTA updates?
The update sounds minor given it's incremental version (but tmous/HTC claims it's for important security updates), and I'd probably ignore it... But unfortunately, because I checked in the first place and perhaps because I'm on stock (minus a few apps I'm trying to delete: Amazon, Facebook, Kid Mode), for whatever reason the update reminder stays in my notifications and is pretty insistent.
Can I install this without calamity?
Thank you!

syntropic said:
Ok...But before I read this, I was just going through settings and I checked the "check for updates" section, and it wants to install firmware version 2.22.531.6. So maybe if you are still using stock (despite installing custom recovery), you still get OTA updates?
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You will get the OTA notification just fine with custom recovery, and it will download as well. The problem is, when you go to install, OTA requires stock recovery and will fail when it doesn't find it. Might also bootloop looking for stock recovery, can't remember exactly.

redpoint73 said:
You will get the OTA notification just fine with custom recovery, and it will download as well. The problem is, when you go to install, OTA requires stock recovery and will fail when it doesn't find it. Might also bootloop looking for stock recovery, can't remember exactly.
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Oh boy... So what's the solution? It finally downloaded on its own and is now pestering me to install. I don't want to deal with a bootloop. ****...
Can I delete the update from recovery, it just disable the updater and delete it?
What are my options? Thanks!!

syntropic said:
Oh boy... So what's the solution? It finally downloaded on its own and is now pestering me to install. I don't want to deal with a bootloop. ****...
Can I delete the update from recovery, it just disable the updater and delete it?
What are my options? Thanks!!
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The OTA zip should be in your download folder on internal memory, delete this then uncheck auto update checking and u should be without the constant notifications.
If you want to update, u will need to reinstall a fresh nand with all stock apps included

exocetdj said:
The OTA zip should be in your download folder on internal memory, delete this then uncheck auto update checking and u should be without the constant notifications.
If you want to update, u will need to reinstall a fresh nand with all stock apps included
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I think I'm going to do this (install nand). I am going to get sunshine/s-off, then flash fresh stock RUU... will I still need to then lock bootloader?
Could you just give me a short list of steps to do this? I want to lock bootloader with s-off because I want get the @$&)!& HTC free 100GB Google Drive promo and all the updates.
I really appreciate it Archer...

No problem
1, sunshine s off
2, Flash relevant nand/firmware
3, use this guide to stock lock (not relock) bootloader HERE
4, u will have a stock m8 with S off ready for future OTAs (remember not to remove any apps preinstalled in the nand)
not sure of the 100GB promo as i use dropbox lol :silly::highfive::good:
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syntropic said:
I think I'm going to do this (install nand). I am going to get sunshine/s-off, then flash fresh stock RUU... will I still need to then lock bootloader?
Could you just give me a short list of steps to do this? I want to lock bootloader with s-off because I want get the @$&)!& HTC free 100GB Google Drive promo and all the updates.
I really appreciate it Archer...
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see above buddy

exocetdj said:
see above buddy
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Cool... And I have read that as long as you do it that way (using echo -ne '\x00....' and not "fastboot oem lock" when in fastboot mode with adb running) you will get "***LOCKED***" back and not RELOCKED.
When it's RELOCKED Google can't confirm your information so the promo won't work...But if locked, you can do it.
Now I just have to do it all..
Thanks!!

syntropic said:
Cool... And I have read that as long as you do it that way (using echo -ne '\x00....' and not "fastboot oem lock" when in fastboot mode with adb running) you will get "***LOCKED***" back and not RELOCKED.
When it's RELOCKED Google can't confirm your information so the promo won't work...But if locked, you can do it.
Now I just have to do it all..
Thanks!!
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U are all set dude

[Q] Rooted - can't get OTA Lollipop

I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?

tilda said:
I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?
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There's a guide to flashing back to stock in the forum here, I think you need to flash something else too

Thanks - the only guide that I can see about flashing back to stock involves a wipe also.
If you can find a thread that allows a flash back to stock without a wipe, that would be ideal.

tilda said:
Thanks - the only guide that I can see about flashing back to stock involves a wipe also.
If you can find a thread that allows a flash back to stock without a wipe, that would be ideal.
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No such thing exists. If you are going to do a full and proper unroot or return to stock to take an OTA (as you should) your device will be wiped completely. If you would Bump your G3 and install a custom Lollipop rom (I highly recommend this), then you could upgrade to Lollipop by only wiping your system and data partitions, not your Internal Storage as well. You would lose all yours apps, but not the contents of your internal SD card. If you let Google auto-backup and restore all apps and data on the first boot, it will put everything back the way you had it before you're even used to the new Lollipop environment.

I have looked at the custom ROMs - is there a bumped ROM based on stock where "everything works"?

LG PC Suite let me install Lollipop even though I'm rooted?

OTA's get blocked if you're rooted

GuyInTheCorner said:
OTA's get blocked if you're rooted
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Thanks. That was why I started the thread but. thanks for confirming.

le3ky said:
LG PC Suite let me install Lollipop even though I'm rooted?
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I'll give this a go on another computer as whenever i tried the repair or update options,cut kept telling me That it couldn't check the update status. I had assumed That this was tied into the phone being rooted but possibly not.

I think PC Suite doesn't check if you're rooted (AFAIK, don't quote me on this one) but DON'T UPDATE WHILE ROOTED some.people have had bootloops and other issues after updating. Go back to KitKat, root and flash a pre-rooted Lollipop ROM

GuyInTheCorner said:
I think PC Suite doesn't check if you're rooted (AFAIK, don't quote me on this one) but DON'T UPDATE WHILE ROOTED some.people have had bootloops and other issues after updating. Go back to KitKat, root and flash a pre-rooted Lollipop ROM
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Thanks for the warning. I have been searching for a rooted Stock ROM but all of the ones that I have found have 'issues' where things don't work.

Whenever I try to do anything with PC Suite, it pops up a dialog saying "Cannot check update unavailability [sic]"
Has anyone else had that problem?

tilda said:
Thanks for the warning. I have been searching for a rooted Stock ROM but all of the ones that I have found have 'issues' where things don't work.
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best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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tilda said:
Whenever I try to do anything with PC Suite, it pops up a dialog saying "Cannot check update unavailability [sic]"
Has anyone else had that problem?
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?

GuyInTheCorner said:
best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?
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Yes, it is allowed through the firewall. I'll try on another machine.
I may also give ChupaChups a go if it is compatible with my D855. Thanks for the recommendation.

tilda said:
Yes, it is allowed through the firewall. I'll try on another machine.
I may also give ChupaChups a go if it is compatible with my D855. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I've tried a different machine connected to a different network and not only do I get this error message but when I ask PC Suite to see if there is an updated version of the PC Suite software, it complains that it isn't connected to the internet on both machines.
Does anybody have a link to a version of the software which is known to work?

GuyInTheCorner said:
best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?
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tilda said:
I've tried a different machine connected to a different network and not only do I get this error message but when I ask PC Suite to see if there is an updated version of the PC Suite software, it complains that it isn't connected to the internet on both machines.
Does anybody have a link to a version of the software which is known to work?
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If nobody can help with this, is there an easy way to remove the rooted flag?

Hey guys, im jumping on this thread as im in the same boat with OP, im on stock rooted kitkat and just got the OTA update but id rather keep root so our only option here is a custom ROM i suppose?
Couple of questions here... Do we need a customer recovery? If yes which one?
And, is AndroidNow HD or ChupChups the best lolipop rom?
Thanks guys and thanks OP for creating this thread

This worked for me!
GO to this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-unroot-ota-using-lg-pc-suite-pc-t2802286
You will find your answer there.
tilda said:
I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?
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hello,
use LG mobile support tool and additional function go in the upgrade error recovery, it does not delete the data, it returns the file system in place, I made this method because I what worries
sorry for my bad english

Spookymulder62 said:
hello,
use LG mobile support tool and additional function go in the upgrade error recovery, it does not delete the data, it returns the file system in place, I made this method because I what worries
sorry for my bad english
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So trying to update doesn't work and keeps your phone as it was before?
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app

red triangle while trying to update OTA lollipop while on TWRP...

Hey guys, I was rooted but on my stock 4.4.2 Sense Rom. I wanted to flash the OTA lollipop update. I had TWRP so i could not update the OTA. So i found a video on youtube that said i had to...
1 - Replace custom recovery with stock recovery
2 - Process OTA Update
3 - Replace stock recovery with custom recovery
I was at step 2 and my htc one m8 is tmobile US and was T-MOB010 so i downloaded "stock+recovery+1.12.531.19+recovery" there was two different ones for me to choose from. There was that one and then "2.22.531.5" however i could not find that DL link. I then flashed the stock recovery thru ADB and rebooted my phone, and it started to update but then i got a red triangle. I saw a comment on the youtube video that said i needed to find the OTA update and transfer to my PC and find the "recovery.img" file and then extract that and flash that to my phone. I looked thru the entire zip file however there is a folder i could not access, the last one named "firmware" I try to extract but i get an error message saying "cannot open, file is invalid" The OTA update i found in my internal storage in download folder and it is named "OTA_M8_UL_L50_SENSE60_MR_TMOUS_4.20.531.4-3.32.531.2_release_420432xio08y7xuups2gkl" that's got to be it because that's the only thing that could be the update any help??
youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPPT5J8xG6w
Thread i was going off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376

jfreshh330 said:
Hey guys, I was rooted but on my stock 4.4.2 Sense Rom. I wanted to flash the OTA lollipop update. I had TWRP so i could not update the OTA. So i found a video on youtube that said i had to...
1 - Replace custom recovery with stock recovery
2 - Process OTA Update
3 - Replace stock recovery with custom recovery
I was at step 2 and my htc one m8 is tmobile US and was T-MOB010 so i downloaded "stock+recovery+1.12.531.19+recovery" there was two different ones for me to choose from. There was that one and then "2.22.531.5" however i could not find that DL link. I then flashed the stock recovery thru ADB and rebooted my phone, and it started to update but then i got a red triangle. I saw a comment on the youtube video that said i needed to find the OTA update and transfer to my PC and find the "recovery.img" file and then extract that and flash that to my phone. I looked thru the entire zip file however there is a folder i could not access, the last one named "firmware" I try to extract but i get an error message saying "cannot open, file is invalid" The OTA update i found in my internal storage in download folder and it is named "OTA_M8_UL_L50_SENSE60_MR_TMOUS_4.20.531.4-3.32.531.2_release_420432xio08y7xuups2gkl" that's got to be it because that's the only thing that could be the update any help??
youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPPT5J8xG6w
Thread i was going off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376
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It sounds like the stock recovery that you loaded wasn't a new enough version. To update to lollipop you need to install a lollipop or a 4.4.X stock recovery. If you install anything that was released prior to that you will get the red triangle deal.
So try and find one thats a little newer. Perhaps see if someone has posted the lollipop one for your carrier. You can use that one. Should be easy to find as it's the latest. Then the OTA should take just fine. Perhaps the other stock one you mentioned would work. You just need to find it. I'm on Rogers in Canada so I'm not too familiar with the T-Mobile files. As mentioned though, just make sure the stock recovery is from Android 4.4.X or 5.X.X and you will be fine.

flexfulton said:
It sounds like the stock recovery that you loaded wasn't a new enough version. To update to lollipop you need to install a lollipop or a 4.4.X stock recovery. If you install anything that was released prior to that you will get the red triange deal.
So try and find one that a little newer. Perhaps see if someone has posted the lollipop one for your carrier. You can use that one. Should be easy to find as it's the latest. Then the OTA should take just fine. Perhaps the other stock one you mentioned would work. You just need to find it. I'm on Rogers in Canada so I'm not too familiar with the AT&T files. As mentioned though, just make sure the stock recovery in from Android 4.4.X or 5.X.X and you will be fine.
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Thank you for the reply! Is there a chance of bricking by trying to change out the stock recovery? Or would the worst that would happen is I get the red triangle. I mean obviously I'm not going to be flashing stock recoverys from different devices but u know.

jfreshh330 said:
Thank you for the reply! Is there a chance of bricking by trying to change out the stock recovery? Or would the worst that would happen is I get the red triangle. I mean obviously I'm not going to be flashing stock recoverys from different devices but u know.
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You mentioned stripping out the recovery.img from the OTA update. This shouldn't be a problem. Not sure why it wouldn't let you access it. Perhaps you have a bad download?
Look around XDA a little more. You should be able to find the OTA you are looking for.
As for flashing a wrong branded stock recovery, I don't really want to say cause I'm not sure what would happen. Just to be safe I'd stick to your carrier's files but perhaps someone else can speak on that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714456
That link will be of great help to you. Has the recovery you require (3.32.531.2 - I just downloaded it myself with no issues) and much discussion on the subject of OTA Lollipop updates etc for T-Mobile.
Let me know if you need anything else. If you still can't get it to work, those would be the guys to consult.
Happy flashing!

flexfulton said:
You mentioned stripping out the recovery.img from the OTA update. This shouldn't be a problem. Not sure why it wouldn't let you access it. Perhaps you have a bad download?
Look around XDA a little more. You should be able to find the OTA you are looking for.
As for flashing a wrong branded stock recovery, I don't really want to say cause I'm not sure what would happen. Just to be safe I'd stick to your carrier's files but perhaps someone else can speak on that.
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So I was going to try and download the official Rom off the HTC website. I've found the download link for the Rom. 4.16.1540.8 do you really think of I just use the recovery. IMG file it will work?

flexfulton said:
You mentioned stripping out the recovery.img from the OTA update. This shouldn't be a problem. Not sure why it wouldn't let you access it. Perhaps you have a bad download?
Look around XDA a little more. You should be able to find the OTA you are looking for.
As for flashing a wrong branded stock recovery, I don't really want to say cause I'm not sure what would happen. Just to be safe I'd stick to your carrier's files but perhaps someone else can speak on that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714456
That link will be of great help to you. Has the recovery you require (3.32.531.2 - I just downloaded it myself with no issues) and much discussion on the subject of OTA Lollipop updates etc for T-Mobile.
Let me know if you need anything else. If you still can't get it to work, those would be the guys to consult.
Happy flashing!
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Awesome thanks so much!

jfreshh330 said:
So I was going to try and download the official Rom off the HTC website. I've found the download link for the Rom. 4.16.1540.8 do you really think of I just use the recovery. IMG file it will work?
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Sideload the latest recovery as found in the thread I linked to above. Reboot and the OTA should take no problems. It was downloading and everything fine for you before but was unable to flash because of an outdated recovery you installed.
So my recommened method to update OTA, is to follow the first route you were taking but with the newest recovery.img file in place of what you used in step 1.
If you already have the OTA downloaded on your phone, you shouldn't have to download it again either. It should see that it's already downloaded ready to be installed.
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Awesome thanks so much!
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No problem. Let me know how it turns out for you.

If you don't mind wiping your personal data (you can of course back it up first,and restore later by a variety of methods) and setting up the phone again; it would be much easier to just update by RUU. Relocking the bootloader required if s-on.
The method of returning to stock ROM and recovery will work to update OTA. But its just a lot more potential pitfalls, as you have found (finding the right stock recovery, stock ROM, and even then there is no guarantee your data will be retained, although it should).

redpoint73 said:
If you don't mind wiping your personal data (you can of course back it up first,and restore later by a variety of methods) and setting up the phone again; it would be much easier to just update by RUU. Relocking the bootloader required if s-on.
The method of returning to stock ROM and recovery will work to update OTA. But its just a lot more potential pitfalls, as you have found (finding the right stock recovery, stock ROM, and even then there is no guarantee your data will be retained, although it should).
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If you flash the stock recovery and let the OS do the OTA update there will be no issues. Relocking bootloaders etc sounds like a lot more work to me.
He is already on stock ROM and has the instructions to do the stock recovery OTA update so I think that's the best route. I provided him with the correct recovery so there should be no problems now.
Also I don't see how in any case doing an OTA would cause you to lose your data. People would have a S$%t fit if they lost data on OTA updates.

flexfulton said:
If you flash the stock recovery and let the OS do the OTA update there will be no issues. Relocking bootloaders etc sounds like a lot more work to me.
He is already on stock ROM and has the instructions to do the stock recovery OTA update so I think that's the best route. I provided him with the correct recovery so there should be no problems now.
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Its a matter of opinion which approach is easier or "best". I just gave it as another option.
Relocking the bootloader is a single fastboot command. Yes, the OP would then need to unlock the bootloader again after the RUU.
On the other hand, the OTA approach requires flashing stock recovery, then installing 3 OTA updates in order to get up to Lollipop (opposed to just a single RUU that would take the OP up to LP).
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Also I don't see how in any case doing an OTA would cause you to lose your data. People would have a S$%t fit if they lost data on OTA updates.
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Its not "supposed" to happen. But I have seen it happen to folks, on more than a few occasions. And yes, those folk have a S$%t fit when it happens.
In any case, everyone should backup their data and be prepared to have to restore it (and its all that much easier on a phone that is already rooted). No data is immune from loss, even from day-to-day use, and all the more for a major system change like an OS update.

redpoint73 said:
Its a matter of opinion which approach is easier or "best". I just gave it as another option.
Relocking the bootloader is a single fastboot command. Yes, the OP would then need to unlock the bootloader again after the RUU.
On the other hand, the OTA approach requires flashing stock recovery, then installing 3 OTA updates in order to get up to Lollipop (opposed to just a single RUU that would take the OP up to LP).
Its not "supposed" to happen. But I have seen it happen to folks, on more than a few occasions. And yes, those folk have a S$%t fit when it happens.
In any case, everyone should backup their data and be prepared to have to restore it (and its all that much easier on a phone that is already rooted). No data is immune from loss, even from day-to-day use, and all the more for a major system change like an OS update.
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Agreed backups are good.
Why 3 OTA updates? Is that a T-Mobile thing? I only had 1 when I made the jump on the Rogers network.

flexfulton said:
That link will be of great help to you. Has the recovery you require (3.32.531.2 - I just downloaded it myself with no issues) and much discussion on the subject of OTA Lollipop updates etc for T-Mobile.
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The OP is presently on Android 4.4.2, which is software number 1.xx. He will need a recovery corresponding to 1.xx software, as he seems to have already figured out, but its not working.
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Agreed backups are good.
Why 3 OTA updates? Is that a T-Mobile thing? I only had 1 when I made the jump on the Rogers network.
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Not just a T-Mob thing.
He is on Android 4.4.2 (software 1.x). Unless T-Mob skipped a software version (and I don't think they did) he needs to update in sequence to software 2.x, then 3.x, then finally up to the current 4.x.
OTAs need to be installed in sequence; opposed to RUUs which are complete factory images, so you can skip software numbers.
Not sure about Rogers. But my guess is that you only had to update from 4.4.4 to 5.0; or something to that effect.

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The OP is presently on Android 4.4.2, which is software number 1.xx. He will need a recovery corresponding to 1.xx software, as he seems to have already figured out, but its not working.
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Not just a T-Mob thing.
He is on Android 4.4.2 (software 1.x). Unless T-Mob skipped a software version (and I don't think they did) he needs to update in sequence to software 2.x, then 3.x, then finally up to the current 4.x.
OTAs need to be installed in sequence; opposed to RUUs which are complete factory images, so you can skip software numbers.
Not sure about Rogers. But my guess is that you only had to update from 4.4.4 to 5.0; or something to that effect.
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Makes sense. I only had to go up one level. I figured that the carriers would package all of the older updates in with new one but apparently I'm wrong. I appologize.
I was trying to help out as I had the same issue when I went to update. I installed a recovery that was too old, determined that I needed to flash a recovery from either 4.4.X or lollipop and my OTA update was fine after that. Point being, I could go ahead and flash a newer recovery to get the OTA to download.
Anyway I applogize if I was in error in my help. No one else was helping and based on my own experiences it sounded like the same issue.

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Makes sense. I only had to go up one level. I figured that the carriers would package all of the older updates in with new one but apparently I'm wrong. I appologize.
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OTAs will normally only allow you to install from the immediate previous version (you cannot skip a version). Sometimes they are complete packages; but often they are not. Sometimes the OTA just contains what has been changed; basically a "patch". And for that reason, the updates need to be installed sequentially. In fact, I've seen folks brick due to unwittingly installing partial firmware packages from OTAs (with s-off, which bypasses such safety checks).
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Anyway I applogize if I was in error in my help.
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There's no need to apologize. As you are well aware, this is a self-supporting community that flourishes due to the contributions of its members. Your answers may not have been 100% correct. But it was well intended; and you answered to the best of your knowledge. At least you learned something and can pass it along now. I'm just a member who passes along what I've learned here also (don't have any specialized developer knowledge or anything); and I'm certainly not right all the time.

So the recovery 3.32.5312 will not work? And i apologize i am on 4.4.4 not 4.4.2

[Qualcomm][MetroPCSXT1765]Do Not Take ANY Updates From March 2018 Onward

***Update August 31, 2018*** It has been reported from @Juanito216 that he's locked out of TWRP after taking an update, and this update is well past March when I first reported it. Be advised not to TAKE THE UPDATES OR YOU WILL LOSE ROOT/TWRP!
***Note*** Made a note of this under my Noob Metro PCS Guide.
This is for a MetroPCS XT1765 phone.
So the significant other finally let me get ahold of their phone (same model) because of bugs on the Stock Rom, and FINALLY I was able to unlock the bootloader. However, this phone had the forced update from March. (My phone didn't have this problem as I rooted out the box).
If you take the update, you have to push the Bootloader unlock. Motorola will give you the unlock code, but I had to keep doing it with the code until the phone "unlocked". Didn't happen on my phone out the box.
If you take the update, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FLASH Magisk v14. I also was unable to install @squid2 TWRP new version. Error 1 kept popping up. Did let me install the superuser and the no-verity just fine but you don't have root.
The only solution you will have to get root is to flash a custom rom and then flash Magisk. But the update did something to the root.
Hope this help you guys.

You seriously had to say that again??
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***Note*** Made a note of this under my Noob Metro PCS Guide.
This is for a MetroPCS XT1765 phone.
So the significant other finally let me get ahold of their phone (same model) because of bugs on the Stock Rom, and FINALLY I was able to unlock the bootloader. However, this phone had the forced update from March. (My phone didn't have this problem as I rooted out the box).
If you take the update, you have to push the Bootloader unlock. Motorola will give you the unlock code, but I had to keep doing it with the code until the phone "unlocked". Didn't happen on my phone out the box.
If you take the update, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FLASH Magisk v14. I also was unable to install @squid02 TWRP new version. Error 1 kept popping up. Did let me install the superuser and the no-verity just fine but you don't have root.
The only solution you will have to get root is to flash a custom rom and then flash Magisk. But the update did something to the root.
Hope this help you guys.
UPDATE 4/1/2018 - After finally being able to unlock the bootloader of the significant other and root it, I found something interesting. - if you take the pestering update that rolled out in March, you will be UNABLE to flash Magisk v14. You can flash No Verity and Superuser well, but you WILL NOT HAVE ROOT. The only alternative I have is to flash a custom rom and then flash Magisk.
Do Not Take the Update.
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You seriously had to say that again?? Everyone I know uses custom roms anyway, just sayin'
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You seriously had to say that again??
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Well, I said that because not everybody is going to read my guide. I've had such hell with this phone while others have sailed through it, I'm giving ALL the MetroPCS folks a head up. Most of the development is done on other variants of the phone as is, and a lot of info that is out there while Qualcomm does not really apply to us. Consider me like an ambassador for the Metro folks, lol.
If somebody said it, I haven't caught it in the threads. And honestly, hopefully this thread opens up a discussion on how we can flash back. I was completely unable to go back to the original stock on the significant other's phone AFTER that update too. Been tinkering with it since I posted that. Can't even flash some of the boot.img files successfully either that I explained in my post (in case of emergency section).
That update is something seriously nasty.
Update: Aaah...I see what I did there. Man, I'm doing too much in the middle of the night. Sorry bout that copy and paste thing. I was taking notes and writing and tinkering with the phone. Didn't want to forget the problem exactly.

Took the latest update that I know of and now I can't flash TWRP anymore. Locked the bootloader and everything back up because I thought I was going to sell this phone. It didn't sell and I decided to unlock it again and root. I hope some type of way someone can find out how to install TWRP after taking all the updates. This Metro PCS variant kind of sucks for rooting\roming.

Juanito216 said:
Took the latest update that I know of and now I can't flash TWRP anymore. Locked the bootloader and everything back up because I thought I was going to sell this phone. It didn't sell and I decided to unlock it again and root. I hope some type of way someone can find out how to install TWRP after taking all the updates. This Metro PCS variant kind of sucks for rooting\roming.
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No, Juanito, no! That's why I said don't take the update. But now I'll correct it in my OP. Thanks for the info.
Can you follow my guide and see if you can get TWRP from ADB shell?

Im running Lineage OS, I can boot TWRP, but can no longer install it. I thought I would never root the phone again. So now at this point, I might not take it to stock ever again.

Juanito216 said:
Im running Lineage OS, I can boot TWRP, but can no longer install it. I thought I would never root the phone again. So now at this point, I might not take it to stock ever again.
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I know you say you can't install TWRP. But can you load it through ADB Shell? If you can there's hope.
Did you start doing all this on Lineage or on Stock, or started back to stock and it crashed. You can always reunlock the bootloader through the Moto prompts on their website. It shouldn't be blacklisted.

Verizon V30 VS99630d update pushed out

I haven't been around much in some time but figured I'd mention I woke to a update message on my phone. Going to push it if as long as I can, that is assuming there is still development going on.
I'll try to see if I can find a location to DL the image to provide it to whoever might be able to tell me if it's okay to apply to my tired phone.

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I haven't been around much in some time but figured I'd mention I woke to a update message on my phone. Going to push it if as long as I can, that is assuming there is still development going on.
I'll try to see if I can find a location to DL the image to provide it to whoever might be able to tell me if it's okay to apply to my tired phone.
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Yes, very surprising news.
This is probably OTA and full KDZ will be released soon. You can capture KDZ with LG Bridge URL.
drewcu said:
FINALLY! Almost 1 year later.... https://www.verizon.com/support/lg-v30-update/
Obviously no TWRP version yet, but at least LG/Verizon hasn't abandoned us completely just yet.
System Update 15
Release date: 08/31/2020
Android™ Security Patch Level: August 2020
Software Version: VS99630d
What's changing:
The current software update provides most up to date Android security patches on your device.
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In the mean time, how do I stop big brother Verizon from bugging me to update the firmware. My phone is rooted with Magisk so I can't take OTA.

In the mean time, how do I stop big brother Verizon from bugging me to update the firmware. My phone is rooted with Magisk so I can't take OTA.
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Use Titanium Backup to Freeze:
System updates 2_18_06_0
System updates 1_15_10_0
And possibly:
Software Update 9

spacepirates said:
Use Titanium Backup to Freeze:
System updates 2_18_06_0
System updates 1_15_10_0
And possibly:
Software Update 9
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Just freezing the 2 System Updates will do it.

I have to say I'm very impressed! Like it's been 3 years since the V30 launched, right? I had started at replacing this phone due to the lack of security updates, but now I can keep using it a while longer, awesome!

I am currently on the debloated vs99630c rom. Can the Verizon updated rom be downloaded onto the phone without losing root?
Do we know if anyone is trying to make this into a twrp installable rom, hope so?

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, very surprising news.
This is probably OTA and full KDZ will be released soon. You can capture KDZ with LG Bridge URL.
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Never used LG Bridge and saw a procedure you were trying out several years back: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/us998-kdz-file-request-t3726918/page2
Couple questions:
1) Does the procedure for downloading the KDZ "mess" with your existing recovery / system partitions? (I'd like to try and get the KDZ but not at the expense of needing to worry about restoring things back to the way they are now.)
2) You seemed to have trouble extracting the URL at first, then had success later on. What was the trick to getting it to work?
Thanks,
Drew
EDIT: LG Bridge doesn't connect to my V30 VS996 for some reason. Have tried within TWRP and the LG Pie ROM. Have tried File Transfer mode, Charging mode, System Update mode, etc. Within File Transfer mode, the software appears to try to connect, then fails and suggests I disconnect/reconnect the cable which I do to no avail. Oh well, I tried.

gimpy1 said:
I am currently on the debloated vs99630c rom. Can the Verizon updated rom be downloaded onto the phone without losing root?
Do we know if anyone is trying to make this into a twrp installable rom, hope so?
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You need TWRP flashable zip. The full KDZ has not been publicly released yet. JohnFawkes or Seadersn would have to make it, when the KDZ is released
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drewcu said:
Never used LG Bridge and saw a procedure you were trying out several years back: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/us998-kdz-file-request-t3726918/page2
Couple questions:
1) Does the procedure for downloading the KDZ "mess" with your existing recovery / system partitions? (I'd like to try and get the KDZ but not at the expense of needing to worry about restoring things back to the way they are now.)
2) You seemed to have trouble extracting the URL at first, then had success later on. What was the trick to getting it to work?
Thanks,
Drew
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You can look in the Bridge's download log file and find the URL that was used to download the .kdz
The link can then be downloaded by anyone using web browser. Sometimes User-Agent change is required, I think to "spider". I used a chrome extension to temporarily change the user agent so the LG Bridge server didn't see I was using a regular web browser.

Any chance that someone with a VS996 and LG Bridge that works can PLEASE check to see if the vs99630d KDZ is available for download?
I would, but I've tried using LG Bridge with multiple PCs and cannot get it to connect to my VS996. It shows the Connecting... screen but just times out regardless of what I do.
Thanks!
Drew

I will try
edit: LG Bridge is not working for me either. However I just googled and there is a 30d kdz on https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs996-firmwares/

Descartesisafraud said:
I will try
edit: LG Bridge is not working for me either. However I just googled and there is a 30d kdz on https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs996-firmwares/
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Thanks for confirming I'm not the only one with LG Bridge issues and for finding the 30d KDZ!
Direct link to 30d KDZ page: https://lg-firmwares.com/downloads-file/23387/VS99630d_02_0821_ARB00
Now the next question is -- is @JohnFawkes still on the scene and able to work the same magic he used for the 30c TWRP zip with the 30d version? My guess is this is the last time Verizon/LG pushes out an update for the almost 3 year old phone.
Thank you!!

There is a tool to convert .kdz to twrp .zip. But it says it only works for old kdz. I dont know how the new KDZ are converted.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...-kdzz-create-flashable-zip-kdz-files-t3902423
I think though you can update with the kdz using patched LGUP via REFURBISH or PARTITION DL. You will lose twrp, but you can reinstall twrp afterwards. Then I think you have to install magisk again, as well as Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_08.18.2019 (encryption disabler) and AnyKernel 3 RCTD Remover (root checker disabler). All that is explained in this link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post79972584#post79972584
Also I think you lose data, so have to backup apps and stuff if needed.
I might do this in the next time. I dont know if there will be a flashable twrp zip.

Descartesisafraud said:
There is a tool to convert .kdz to twrp .zip. But it says it only works for old kdz. I dont know how the new KDZ are converted.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...-kdzz-create-flashable-zip-kdz-files-t3902423
I think though you can update with the kdz using patched LGUP via REFURBISH or PARTITION DL. You will lose twrp, but you can reinstall twrp afterwards. Then I think you have to install magisk again, as well as Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_08.18.2019 (encryption disabler) and AnyKernel 3 RCTD Remover (root checker disabler). All that is explained in this link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post79972584#post79972584
Also I think you lose data, so have to backup apps and stuff if needed.
I might do this in the next time. I dont know if there will be a flashable twrp zip.
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Was just looking into KDZZ and yeah I think John figured out a way with new KDZs (or else we wouldn't have one for 30c). I recall it taking a few tries with us beta testers so it's evidently not super simple. If John is still around, hopefully he can share a how-to on this new KDZ, or just create the TWRP zip for 30d himself...
Not sure about your 2nd idea because that method seems to require fastboot commands which the Verizon firmware doesn't allow. I could be wrong here, but I'd hold off doing any of this until someone confirms one way or the other...

drewcu said:
Thanks for confirming I'm not the only one with LG Bridge issues and for finding the 30d KDZ!
Direct link to 30d KDZ page: https://lg-firmwares.com/downloads-file/23387/VS99630d_02_0821_ARB00
Now the next question is -- is @JohnFawkes still on the scene and able to work the same magic he used for the 30c TWRP zip with the 30d version? My guess is this is the last time Verizon/LG pushes out an update for the almost 3 year old phone.
Thank you!!
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Thanks. I'll update the VS996 Pie KDZ thread tonight when I get home.
@JohnFawkes.

Nah I won't be updating anything. If you guys aren't aware, I don't do android development anymore. Please refer to this post as to why
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1304871604833329153?s=20
Sorry. If I was still doing development I would make it but after everything with fontchanger and all the bull**** I put up with, I can't force myself to do anything dev related anymore
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I'm sure @seadersn would do it if he has time though

the developer is fed up with the constant harassment (even death threats) from other "devs"
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jesus, why do people have to be so aweful?
drewcu said:
Not sure about your 2nd idea because that method seems to require fastboot commands which the Verizon firmware doesn't allow. I could be wrong here, but I'd hold off doing any of this until someone confirms one way or the other...
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good point, if fastboot commands dont work on 30d

Honestly you can just flash the kdz and select everything except recovery to keep twrp

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Honestly you can just flash the kdz and select everything except recovery to keep twrp
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@ChazzMatt
Since you are the guru for all things V30, have you already made a guide for how to flash a KDZ in LGUP and keep TWRP?
My Download Mode has been borked since Oreo on the VS996, so do you think flashing the US998 20e TWRP zip will fix that issue AND should I expect any problems flashing an Oreo US998 rom after being on a Pie VS996 rom?
I am guessing if I somehow regain Download Mode with this 20e method, then I use LGUP's Partition DL mode and check everything but Recovery for the 30d KDZ?
Then what else would we want to do before booting into the ROM in terms of encryption and all that John normally includes in his TWRP zip?
If anyone successfully completes this task of keeping TWRP and Root with 30d, can you please report back?
Thanks!
Drew

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@ChazzMatt
Since you are the guru for all things V30, have you already made a guide for how to flash a KDZ in LGUP and keep TWRP?
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We tried that in the early days -- before Westwood24, JohnFawkes, and Seadrsn. It was hit or miss, and turned to mostly miss. Theoretically, using Partition DL but omitting the recovery partitions, it should cleanly only update the those partitions and leave TWRP intact. But for whatever reasons, that would often not work. (I can't remember whether it just bootlooped or got hung on logo. Been a couple of years ago. It would be discussed early in the Oreo KDZ threads.)
After attempting that, many people then had to reformat their phones, flash the full KDZ (either Refurbish or Partition DL) and then reinstall TWRP again. Bootloader was still unlocked, of course, but they had to go through Section 6 of WTF Instructions to reinstall TWRP over the updated KDZ. If you have H930 variant or US998 firmware, that's NOT a deal breaker as those have fastboot flash commands. But for Verizon firmware, you can't do that.
This is why the TWRP-flashable zips (basically stock ROMs) were such a godsend. You kept your data and kept TWRP.