I am buying Note 2 in India and getting back in US next month. Is the note 2 US version same as international version? I am moving from GS3 to Note 2 and i know GS3 had different version in USA. I am on tmobile in USA and i know Tmobile Note 2 has lte antenna for future use.
Will India version work in USA on tmobile with their 'fake' 4g speeds?
pradyots said:
I am buying Note 2 in India and getting back in US next month. Is the note 2 US version same as international version? I am moving from GS3 to Note 2 and i know GS3 had different version in USA. I am on tmobile in USA and i know Tmobile Note 2 has lte antenna for future use.
Will India version work in USA on tmobile with their 'fake' 4g speeds?
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You can make voice calls and text but you will only get edge speed as they work on a different band from international note 2.
But if you mean by "work in US" is making and receiving calls, then yes you will not have a problem but you won't get any high speed data with international model.
KgTheraad1 said:
You can make voice calls and text but you will only get edge speed as they work on a different band from international note 2.
But if you mean by "work in US" is making and receiving calls, then yes you will not have a problem but you won't get any high speed data with international model.
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3g speeds in TMobile refarmed areas.
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KgTheraad1 said:
You can make voice calls and text but you will only get edge speed as they work on a different band from international note 2.
But if you mean by "work in US" is making and receiving calls, then yes you will not have a problem but you won't get any high speed data with international model.
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Well i thought unlike GS3, the Note 2 is same for all countries so unlocked Note 2 from India will support all data frequencies whether I put AT&T Sim or T-mobile.
Shouldn't a unlock Note 2 support all data frequencies, in my case, that should be Tmobile 3g?
Need help guys... cant decide if i should buy it or not
I think in India it's the N7100 version and it does not support LTE but you can still use calling features and internet with 3G/4G.:good:
Which Note 2 supports more networks and frequencies; and therefore, which would be more suitable for international travel. Is the Verizon Note 2 even pentaband?
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Rhiannon224 said:
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Yup, the T-Mobile version will work in more places overseas -- Especially Europe. Just in case, you might want to ask this in the Verizon area also just to make sure. :good:
I'm confused because on Samsungs website, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I605TSAVZW-specs
the Verizon Model has the GSM frequencies,
is it GSM if unlocked; i believe the Note 2 is already unlocked by verizon, will it work on GSM frequencies internationally?
correct me if I'm wrong, thanks
the verizon Galaxy Note II apparently has the GSM radios,
also has LTE; doesn't AT&T LTE work along same frequencies as verizon LTE
or is the verizon LTE exlusively to CDMA?
All Galaxy Note 2 devices seem to have all WCDMA, GSM, and LTE bands.
But what I understand is that Verizon version is considered as a "world" phone. I know that they tell me that I can use their Galaxy Note 2 on the European Networks.
I have played around with the bands on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 and can get the WCDMA and LTE working. So I don't know if the Modem firmware in all Galaxy Note 2 are the same and just need to be activated by the carrier's sim card or not. Someone please educate us on the this. I know that their is talk of needing OTA update to activate the LTE within T-Mobile GN2. But if the Modem is all the same then can just updating or exchanging the sim card could do the same? Or does the nv file also needs to be updated to activate the band/s as well?
The question is not if Galaxy Note 2 (all verisons) have the bands. But how to (the actual process) activate the band, in question, and get the Galaxy Note 2 in working order with the carrier of choice? What is the method? How to do the process of this method?
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.
^ good point, and also just to ask about the verizon note 2 again, i thought it carries carries an an additional radio for CDMA, does this mean that the verizon note 2 model has better capabilities worldwide' since it is virtually compatible with all networks in the world (simply tweaks to the frequencies to the radio can get the verizon variant working virtually anywhere) please correct me if I'm wrong here. thanks
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Problem I have seen in the past with Verizon world phones is that the game frequencies only work overseas. And lte is gsm band. Which is one of the few reasons Verizon phones have a sim slot to begin with
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
But doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So the Verizon Note2 is like the AT&T Note2 & Sprint Note2 (supporting 21Mbps HSPA+ but not 42Mbps like T-Mobile) but all only with their own respective LTE?..wouldn't it be more cost effective for Samsung just to make 1 phone with all the hardware to support all (isn't the iPhone5 like that now?) or is it cost prohibitive or do carriers not want to make it easier to unlock?
Are we still confident that the T-Mobile Note2 is the best if we want the flexibility to use on all carriers? How often is >21Mbps HSPA+ seen in real world use & why is the disabled LTE not listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877 ?
So, which is better then, Verizon or T-Mobile? Verizon's Note 2 also includes a CDMA radio whereas the T-Mobile version does not. If you are using the Note 2 in the US, wouldn't you have more flexible options in terms of which carrier to use?
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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Well LTE On the Verizon Note 2 is only compatible with Verizon's Network. Even if unlocked; the phone's firmware only recognizes LTE if only the Verizon 750 band is detected. Verizon has its own exclusive LTE bands compared to AT&T and Future T-Mobile LTE (sharing the same LTE bands)
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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I cannot speak to the CDMA radio issue, but I am positive that Verizon LTE will not work with any GSM LTE phone. The frequencies are similar, but Verizon is using a different LTE protocol. I asked that question a long time ago, thinking that LTE would finally allow roaming between Verizon and AT&T, but they are too clever to allow such a democratic system to function. They will remain fundamentally incompatible, not because they need to be, but because they want it that way to keep you locked to your carrier by your choice of device. Nice, eh?
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The Verizon NoteII will (in theory) connect to any gsm carrier. How to do so, I don't know.
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^^^ Well, the Verizon Note 2 will not be able to work with another carrier's LTE than itself.
my experience
Hey folks,
I've got the Verizon Note 2 and I love it. If you're willing to unlock the bootloader and then install a hack onto your device, you'll easily be able to swap the SIM card out and use it just about anywhere. Yes, the phone is carrier unlocked (not the same as bootloader unlocked). The issue is that in the settings, they won't let you add the specific APNs for the carriers you need. I"m not sure how else to get around that without installing some of the hacks. I managed to do it and it works beautifully on Canada's Bell Mobility, HSPA+ is screamingly fast and the LTE on VErizon in the States is just insanely fast. My recommendation: get the Verizon version because they've built out their LTE much more than their rivals at this point.
On anantech the reviewer stated that the tmobile version would be the most compatible. If you get vzw note2 and switch you wont get lte on tmob or att. Quite frankly vzw is too expensive and the coverage from tmobile is getting better by the month. Not to mention their business pricing is better than any of the other carriers.
I'm going to buy a Note 2, but now having trouble deciding whether to get the T-Mobile, AT&T, or 1 of the int. models; which is best suited for this plan? I've been using it on my old phone and i regularly get HSPA+. I'll also be flashing custom roms on it, so the more populated the development communities, the better.
T889 it supports both att and tmobile lte frequencies.
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Is there really only one radio in the note 4 for AT&T ? he Verizon version is rumored to have two which is needed for simultaneous voice and data on the samsung note 4 for at&t. Anyone have comments on this?
There's no issue using data and voice simultaneously on the AT&T Note 4.
AT&T is GSM, Verizon is CDMA.
GSM allows for voice and data at the same time, while CDMA does not yet
Hi all,
I've been using a Verizon S4 SCH-I545 VRUAME7 on a P-Tel service for 3 years without problems. PTel is a re-seller on T-Mobile network so whatever coverage and services T-Mobile has - I get it via PTel (but cheaper).
The phone is rooted but ROM is old, stock version 4.2.2.
Recently something happened and started having horrible GSM reception at my work. Barely can make a call. 50% of time I get ZERO bars at all. I don't care much about data, I'm using EDGE and it's enough for me. But I do need reliable Voice.
Question 1. Does S4 SCH-I545 have all bands for voice that are used by T-Mobile?
Question 2. I've heard that S4 SCH-I545 lacks some LTE bands of T-Mobile. IS LTE USED BY T-MOBILE FOR VOICE NOW?
Question 3. Is there a way to flash ROM in my S4 SCH-I545 to "unlock" all bands necessary for full support of voice on T-Mobile network?
Thanks!
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This really should be in the Q&A section.
Voice and edge data should work, but not much else. I would highly recommend you just find yourself a cheap GSM phone if you want good coverage and reliable data. You can get a Moto G or similar for like ~$120, and you would have a much better experience.
Yes, t-mo uses VoLTE but I doubt your phone picks up any LTE signal at all from T-mo
There is no way to "unlock" bands. The radios are actually different in each model of S4