Develop Bugs

Just bought a TP2 on Ebay!

It is with the official ROM. I'm still playing around with it. I liked so far. But, I'm having problem with the GPS. IGO/Navigon doesn't detected there is built-in GPS. Google Maps activated the GPS and locked sats thur active sync with no problem. I do not have/use data plan on my phone. For starter how do I enabled or configure the GPS, right now its set to Manage GPS automatically (recommended)?

I thought GPS uses a data plan, but regardless, make sure that you have location set to on,
Settings > system > location settings

burtonsnow8 said:
I thought GPS uses a data plan, but regardless, make sure that you have location set to on,
Settings > system > location settings
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I don't have location settings on my phone in Settings > system >

keno7777 said:
I don't have location settings on my phone in Settings > system >
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if you are still in TF3D there should be an option in the settings tab as well.

burtonsnow8 said:
I thought GPS uses a data plan
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Are you mental ?!
Do you have any idea what GPS is ?
Please !

dik23 said:
Are you mental ?!
Do you have any idea what GPS is ?
Please !
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I am not mental, but GPS is global positioning system. it uses satellites to track your devices location, but it still has to send that information to you.
I should be more clear...GPS can be accessed w/out data, but that doesn't do any good. You need programs like google maps etc which download the map onto ur phone. Thats great you can see your lattitude longitude but it doesn't do anything for you unless you are a damn navigator for a cruise ship.

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I am not mental, but GPS is global positioning system. it uses satellites to track your devices location, but it still has to send that information to you.
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OMG !!
Have you ever heard of Google ?!
It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Basic_concept_of_GPS
The maps don't have to come via a mobile data connection, they can be stored on your device. You know - SatNav !
LMAO !! This deservers a Picard Face Palm http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr290/usshorizonkitty/picard-facepalm.jpg

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OMG !!
Have you ever heard of Google ?!
It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Basic_concept_of_GPS
LMAO !!
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Yes I use google maps...and as such everytime i loaded it I saw my data being accessed because it had to load maps. I'm just trying to save this guy his money in case he thinks using google maps is going to be free.
Satnav....no thanks:
"Woman runs for her life after satnav leads her into path of a train". ... "BMW left teetering on 100ft cliff edge after sat-nav directs driver up steep"
needless to say you need to purchase most programs that will have the maps on ur phone.

SatNav is like Google maps for people who want to drive.

dik23 said:
OMG !!
Have you ever heard of Google ?!
It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...concept_of_GPS
The maps don't have to come via a mobile data connection, they can be stored on your device. You know - SatNav !
LMAO !! This deservers a Picard Face Palm http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...d-facepalm.jpg
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Are you mental ?!
Do you have any idea what GPS is ?
Please !
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Easy there super chief!!
Some GPS-enabled apps do indeed require a data connection to communicate with servers in addition to the satellite-sourced signal they receive. If the esteemed Mr Snow here hadn't ever used any apps that don't require this, it's not a grand leap of logic for him to have the impression that it's always necessary. An incorrect impression to be sure, but still not as jaw-dropping as you imply.
Either way, wrong or right, there's no need to be so harsh...your sanctimony is unwarranted here.

One word
Google

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Easy there super chief!!
Some GPS-enabled apps do indeed require a data connection to communicate with servers in addition to the satellite-sourced signal they receive. If the esteemed Mr Snow here hadn't ever used any apps that don't require this, it's not a grand leap of logic for him to have the impression that it's always necessary. An incorrect impression to be sure, but still not as jaw-dropping as you imply.
Either way, wrong or right, there's no need to be so harsh...your sanctimony is unwarranted here.
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i've sent him my thoughts as well, but thank you for the bit of sanity on the forums.
as well, thank you for presenting the information in a manner that makes it readable and understandable.

Sorry - but if you insist on getting it wrong ...
Just trying to make sure the man's not getting twisted idea of what's going on

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Sorry - but if you insist on getting it wrong ...
Just trying to make sure the man's not getting twisted idea of what's going on
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I don't insist on getting it wrong, I wanted someone to explain to me like sirphunkee did the situation. I did not want to be belittled publicly by you. There is a big difference in how the information was presented, which in turn affects how other people view and absorb it.

But you did get it wrong !
Anyway, I refer you to post #7 in this thread
"It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Basic_concept_of_GPS
The maps don't have to come via a mobile data connection, they can be stored on your device. You know - SatNav !"
How clear would you like it ?
Only trying to help

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But you did get it wrong !
Anyway, I refer you to post #7 in this thread
"It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...concept_of_GPS
The maps don't have to come via a mobile data connection, they can be stored on your device. You know - SatNav !"
How clear would you like it ?
Only trying to help
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Dude, it's not your message, it's your delivery.
Here...try this:
"Actually, while some GPS apps do require a data connection, sat-nav and many other apps don't...they just have the data they need stored locally. So, the OP could still get use out of his GPS w/o a data connection, as long as he uses the right app(s)"
See...? It cleared the point up (your stated purpose), without the disrespectful tone. Regardless of how you percieve the person, there's ways you talk to strangers in public forums...and ways you don't.
Since you're so fond of Google, here's two for you to look up:
"tact"
"couth"

I think it's more important to get the facts right, my friend.
What do we want here ? A board full of people telling each other things that aren't true or a source of information ?
I use Google all the time to search for answers to problems that I encounter in various situations. It's not good to repeatedly read page after page of threads from random forums only to get to the end and have no conclusion. I would much rather have the truth quickly and concisely than a bunch of people commenting about things they know nothing about. No matter how it's delivered. How about you ?
PS I'm glad you've now figured out what ROM stands for lol

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I think it's more important to get the facts right, my friend.
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Nobody said getting the facts right had to suffer in the name of common decency...or are you saying you're incapable of being correct and civil?
You imply that you treat others this way because you see no reason not to...but to what end? Who does it benefit?
We're not asking you to abandon your grand quest for truth, light and clarity...just to not devalue the same populace you seek to serve so nobly.

I was trying to make sure that the person who posted originally got the message and was in no way trying to degrade that person.
In fact I'd also like to point that person towards the following thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
It has some useful GPS tweaks. However it's also a sticky and so I'd like to suggest that answers to questions should be searched for first. It's very unlikely, esp with a device that's been about over 6 months like this one has, that you'll be the first to encounter any problem or situation. Otherwise we end up with thread after thread discussing the same thing over and over. And what good is that ?
Not that long ago I went on thread after thread showing people that mobilespeedtest.com gives erroneous results. It was unbelievable. Lots of people were being lead to believe total rubbish. There was thread after thread of this rubbish.
What is there to be gained getting things wrong ?

Sorry guys I didn't mean this to be a debate. Thanks dik23. I will take a look at the following thread.
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I was trying to make sure that the person who posted originally got the message and was in no way trying to degrade that person.
In fact I'd also like to point that person towards the following thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
It has some useful GPS tweaks. However it's also a sticky and so I'd like to suggest that answers to questions should be searched for first. It's very unlikely, esp with a device that's been about over 6 months like this one has, that you'll be the first to encounter any problem or situation. Otherwise we end up with thread after thread discussing the same thing over and over. And what good is that ?
Not that long ago I went on thread after thread showing people that mobilespeedtest.com gives erroneous results. It was unbelievable. Lots of people were being lead to believe total rubbish. There was thread after thread of this rubbish.
What is there to be gained getting things wrong ?
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lost evo. anyway of finding it?

Somehow I managed to lose my evo and its nowhere to be found. Its fully rooted running dc 3.2.3. Is there any way of locating it or remoty turning on gps? I don't have any special software for that type of stuff. any help is appreciated

sprint used to have the family locator thing where all the lines on your account could be located by their gps signal. dunno if they still have it or not, i haven't used it in a while.

I tried that but gps needs to be turned on. Is there a way to remotely turn on gps?

Any chance sprint might be able to help? the phone seems to be on, no one has made any calls with it or otherwise used it so I'm pretty sure it's somewhere where I can find it. I wonder if Sprint will (I say will because I'm pretty sure they can) try to find the phone via their cell towers or at least an approximate location.

i know windows mobile had software that could turn on gps and reply back to your other phone via sms its gps coordination... but the software had to be built into the rom so its not uninstallable.
ive been wondering if theres an app or similar for android.
just in case someone swipes my phone i'd like to be able to track it.
would be nice if a dev had this feature built into a rom so noone can disable or remove it.

Sprint could help but won't (I have tried). Family locator needs sms verification with user of phone before it will activate. Unless you had installed an app to track it you don't have any options. Look on craigslist or ebay.
Next time use "wheres my droid" or some other such software. Unfortunately google thinks that having an app switch on gps is a privacy issue so they disabled that api in 2.x, so you are really out of luck even if you had software.
I have quick sshd installed on mine so hopefully will be able to remote in and run ase, delete files, etc.

Sprint Family Locator will work. It doesn't require user authorization and it does not require the phone to have GPS turned on. Try it. The only thing it will do is send the phone a message saying that SFL has been activated (or the phone has been located via SFL).

Finally got family locator to find my phone but it's giving me a 0.5 mile radius by some apartments complexes that i didn't go to yesterday. I lost it somewhere by a lake and I guess someone's found it and taken it home. I'm hoping they'll turn on the GPS antenna so I can get a more precise location.
Edit: I was under the impression that GPS needs to be turned on because CC told me it does. When i started the service it wasn't working properly and locating my phone so I really thought that GPS needs to be on. I tried it out on some other phones on my account today and it wasn't locating any of them so i called CC and they did some things over there and locator started working. I probably could have found it yesterday if locator worked properly.

dudewithnofood said:
Finally got family locator to find my phone but it's giving me a 0.5 mile radius by some apartments complexes that i didn't go to yesterday. I lost it somewhere by a lake and I guess someone's found it and taken it home. I'm hoping they'll turn on the GPS antenna so I can get a more precise location.
Edit: I was under the impression that GPS needs to be turned on because CC told me it does. When i started the service it wasn't working properly and locating my phone so I really thought that GPS needs to be on. I tried it out on some other phones on my account today and it wasn't locating any of them so i called CC and they did some things over there and locator started working. I probably could have found it yesterday if locator worked properly.
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glad to see you've found your phone...lolz.

half mile radius doesn't really qualify as finding it

dudewithnofood said:
Finally got family locator to find my phone but it's giving me a 0.5 mile radius by some apartments complexes that i didn't go to yesterday. I lost it somewhere by a lake and I guess someone's found it and taken it home. I'm hoping they'll turn on the GPS antenna so I can get a more precise location.
Edit: I was under the impression that GPS needs to be turned on because CC told me it does. When i started the service it wasn't working properly and locating my phone so I really thought that GPS needs to be on. I tried it out on some other phones on my account today and it wasn't locating any of them so i called CC and they did some things over there and locator started working. I probably could have found it yesterday if locator worked properly.
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That sucks man. Did you have a password on it?

I have three apps for this sort of thing:
The previously suggested "Wheres My Droid". If you lose your phone, you can send an SMS to it with a custom phrase that will turn on the sound to ring for up to 5 minutes.
Lookout Mobile. A combo of GPS location, antivirus and contact/picture backup. You can log in through the website to locate.
Mobile Security. The best, IMO. Log into the website and it will locate the phone with options to lock, send a text, send a sound alarm. Key feature: If you are rooted, you can flash the app to your system of your phone, which means it won't appear in your app drawer and can't be uninstalled...its invisible unless a thief has the expertise to pull it off the phone with ADB. Was able to successfully pinpoint the address the phone is currently at.
In conjunction with these, you might want to download 'Protector'. This is basically an app that password protects certain apps/functions to your liking. I use it to require access to the market (so apps like lookout cant be uninstalled), system apps (like astro or estrongs...same idea) and sensitive $ data like Mint.com and Paypal apps.
I like redundancy on issues like this so thats why I have all three apps going. Also, always leave your GPS on. There is no battery drain issue unless an app is actually utilizing it, and that will be obvious because the GPS logo will appear in the notification bar next to the 3g/CDMA/Power icons.
You can make your phone pretty useless to anyone who isn't you by using the above ideas.

Pintail is always the first app i install, just text Locate and a pin number and it will send you the address of where its at. Coordinates would be nicer though.

captivate said:
Sprint Family Locator will work. It doesn't require user authorization and it does not require the phone to have GPS turned on. Try it. The only thing it will do is send the phone a message saying that SFL has been activated (or the phone has been located via SFL).
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Wow they must have changed that policy then. I had lost a treo 600 back in the day and they told me it needed to activate it with a code sent to the handset. Good to know they changed that and I apologize for being inaccurate.
Family locator works on phones without gps by using tower triangulation. But as you see it isn't all that accurate.
Good luck!
* I use ' tasker' to listen for sms and it will send sms back with location and ip. I can then ssh into phone and do various things there.
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Just another thought. If you have a bluetooth headset you could wander around there and see where it connects. 10 meters?

sorry to hear of your misfortune.
yes.. only way to work.. is to have an app that helps you loaded before you loose it.
Half mile radius, sounds like tower triangulation to me. NOT GPS.
This is a warning to all.. spend a little time to find an app you like to do this ASAP. you will feel better.
there are few in the Market. I use Wavesecure.
these apps use Text messages to activate functions on your phone. Can give you a lot of control over the phone.
1. Checkout Craigslist or Ebay to see if your phone is listed.
2. If you can not find it online. Then tell sprint it is lost.. so it will be turned off so they can not use it or sell it.
3. I hope you have insurance that covers loss.

zonyl said:
Just another thought. If you have a bluetooth headset you could wander around there and see where it connects. 10 meters?
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that is a good idea.. but battery on evo will not last long...it might be dead by now or very soon.

Seriously, drop everything and invest into some sort of software and set it up properly so you won't be in a ****ty situation like this. Now I gotta go hunting on ebay/craigslist and drop another $400... FML.

another $400? This is why people should buy insurance. at the most it is $100.
FYI depending on how long you have had the line open, you can still add insurance to the phone within 30 days I believe. Most likely wont help you but you never know.

[Q] Can anyone recommend a GPS tracker for Android?

Looking for a GPS tracker to track one of the kids haha. I know it is a little unethical but I got over that.
It would be cool to be able to track her on my phone, but I could do with a web interface need be (these things access the internet as well, right?)
It would probably need to lock or hide itself in the app drawer (I rather have it hidden.) She would probably throw a fit otherwise. I don't mind paying for the right app.

Don't lie. You're trying to sneak it onto your woman's phone. LOL. I'm interested in this too.

lillee3377 said:
Don't lie. You're trying to sneak it onto your woman's phone. LOL. I'm interested in this too.
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I could just try a bunch, but that seems like a lot of work

Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?

MrDSL said:
Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?
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Yup. It's their Family Locator service. $5 a month.
https://sfl.sprintpcs.com/finder-sprint-family/welcome.htm

I think any app that acts as a constant "tracker" will kill the battery in no time.
A few options come to mind; Lookout Mobile Security (extremely accurate the few times i've tested it) or Google Latitude - less accurate but can be configured using wifi+gps....

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Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?
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Yup. It's their Family Locator service. $5 a month.
https://sfl.sprintpcs.com/finder-sprint-family/welcome.htm
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Yeah....I just hate to pay extra when there are all these awesome apps that are potentially free.
I think I have found what I am looking for though.
Family GPS Tracker
Simple interface, not really a tracker but will be fine for what I need to use it for. Best of all you can change the update frequency so the app isn't phoning home constantly and destroying the battery.
Now I just need to find a way to hide the app haha.

jaypeezee said:
I think any app that acts as a constant "tracker" will kill the battery in no time.
A few options come to mind; Lookout Mobile Security (extremely accurate the few times i've tested it) or Google Latitude - less accurate but can be configured using wifi+gps....
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Sorry, tracker might be a bit of an overstatement. I don't really need tracking more so just location updating every now and then.

lookout mobile was free but i guess they have a premiuim version. 29.99 for a year. it has GPS tracking but it has to be used by logging on to their website to track, like family locator. i luckily have been using it since windows mobile days so i get the premiuim features for free

The best one I think is mobile defense and it hides itself the only thing is it sends a text when it connects so to get around that you'll need handcent sms and just blacklist the number it texts from that's how I track my girl lmao
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i use google latitude, its very good and its free. it even shows a picture of where the phone's @ with the address.

djcro said:
i use google latitude, its very good and its free. it even shows a picture of where the phone's @ with the address.
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latitude would be a good option if the person never opened it, lol. as soon as they do, they could turn it off, hide themselves, or just set it to a hard location ("i'm going to jessica's, dad", set's latitude for jessica's house, then is over to brad's tra la la la la)
if she had a custom ROM on her phone, you could make launcher pro the default home, then hide latitude from the app drawer. unless she's savvy, she wouldn't think about it. latitude should update.
of course, if you're going to go that way, you could use any one of several things and just hide them from the app drawer.

Safety
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Ninja Tracker
michaelvibe said:
Looking for a GPS tracker to track one of the kids haha. I know it is a little unethical but I got over that.
It would be cool to be able to track her on my phone, but I could do with a web interface need be (these things access the internet as well, right?)
It would probably need to lock or hide itself in the app drawer (I rather have it hidden.) She would probably throw a fit otherwise. I don't mind paying for the right app.
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I would recommend the Ninja Tracker - when my son passed his driving test I was always worrying about him so we now have one of these in his car (he knows it is there) and I often use it to check he has arrived safely at his destination etc... Also popped one in my daughters bag when we went to a music festival last year - just for peace of mind really - meant that she could have more freedom to wander off with her friends but at such a packed venue we could find her easily by logging into our interface via my iphone. Fab bit of kit at a reasonable price - company I bought it from was called Ninja Tracking Systems I think... Google them.

http://wheresmydroid.com/
I use this. It also allows me to erase the contents should the enemy get my phone.

I can suggest Fameelee - Family Locator. It's a free app avaiable on Google Play and recently launched on Appstore. It allows to track realtime location of the family members as well as to check location history for the past 30 days. Within premium version you may track sms and call logs of the loved ones. It works in background so mostly end user you going to track will even didn't notice it. Hope features of this app will meet your needs

I'd like to recommend you Fameelee app, it's a free app that was recenly founded by myself on Google Play Market. Allows to track real time location of the family members, friends or whoever you wish
You can also check gps location histor for the last 30 days, get gps notification once your app member reach some specific places (you can match it on the map) and a lot of other useful features.

[NEWS] Errant Data usage [Link]

Reading stories like this makes me glad mine is off.
Errant Data Usage

glad i have a 1.5GB plan. though i never see it chew up much. but aye, it's a good course to make MS do another update if they don't fix it with the feb patch.

I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.

well to be honest it has been noted around here in a few threads before, and most of us believe it comes from the feedback system in the phone. i think just having it so that it only sends data when connected to wifi will automatically resolve it.
but aye, wait for MS to do their investigations. i'm sure if they just "bing" it, they'll find our posts and say that is their solution as well

randude said:
I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.
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A lot of people report high battery consumption with WP7 devices. This could be the reason.

randude said:
I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.
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MS has acknowledged the fact and looking into the resolution, so I don't think it is some mumbo-jumbo.

The Gate Keeper said:
well to be honest it has been noted around here in a few threads before, and most of us believe it comes from the feedback system in the phone. i think just having it so that it only sends data when connected to wifi will automatically resolve it.
but aye, wait for MS to do their investigations. i'm sure if they just "bing" it, they'll find our posts and say that is their solution as well
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This is a workaround and not a solution, I am pretty sure they want to solve it rather than telling the users to disable the feature.

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This is a workaround and not a solution, I am pretty sure they want to solve it rather than telling the users to disable the feature.
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yea i agree. but i'm just saying that MS could propose it as a temporary work around if it is indeed the cause of the issue, until they fix it in an update.

I have a suspicion this is a 3rd party app issue, as it's not everyone who's having this problem... Could still be the OS, of course.

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I have a suspicion this is a 3rd party app issue, as it's not everyone who's having this problem... Could still be the OS, of course.
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Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.

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Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.
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Most people have limited cap on 3G data, so it's not that difficult to realize whether your phone is abusing your monthly plan or not.
Actually, from the comments at engadget and other blogs, it does seem that the vast majority of users are not affected by the issue. And I've never heard a single one in Italy affected as well. So it maybe a carrier-specific problem, or a 3rd party app available on certain markets/networks.
Or there might not be an issue at all, the high data consumption being just caused by applications running under the lockscreen in standby (so that wifi goes off and 3g kicks in).

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Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.
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True... I know I'm ok because I have checked my online statement thing and I've only used a couple of MB so far this month.

Feedback Function? i dont think so.......
One thing that has NEVER been talked about is another new function.......
Location!
You all know that via windowslive we can locate our phones, erase them, block them ect.
Well this function is on by default.
I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
Since the feedback option is (proven? because deactivated by some? anybody?) not the problem, and the find my phone service is not mentioned, i would look into that........

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I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
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That depends how often it's sending location info, and whether it's using AGPS. I don't know the details... Mine is turned off anyway.

SPVlover said:
One thing that has NEVER been talked about is another new function.......
Location!
You all know that via windowslive we can locate our phones, erase them, block them ect.
Well this function is on by default.
I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
Since the feedback option is (proven? because deactivated by some? anybody?) not the problem, and the find my phone service is not mentioned, i would look into that........
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Location is switched on on my phone and I haven't noticed any large data usage.

I am not getting extra data usage when I'm not using my phone it's only about 5k every now and then when it checks email but Saturday I was at the NEC and used IE a lot and wow it ate data!!! I used nearly 30mb just on general surfing, my old Blackberry Storm 2 on the same type of use would have been about 5mb!!!! so why is the phone using so much data when I was just surfing?

alan1467 said:
I am not getting extra data usage when I'm not using my phone it's only about 5k every now and then when it checks email but Saturday I was at the NEC and used IE a lot and wow it ate data!!! I used nearly 30mb just on general surfing, my old Blackberry Storm 2 on the same type of use would have been about 5mb!!!! so why is the phone using so much data when I was just surfing?
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Do you have it on mobile viewing, or desktop viewing? Remember that other phones searched from Google used to limit the viewing for mobile devices. Google would reformat them. Bing doesn't do that, especially if you have it browse as if you're using a desktop.
I have location services on all the time, as well as 3G. The phone uses probably 5MB/day along with my emails, and some MSN. Location services is not the problem, and I lock and find my phone everyday to make sure it's working Yes, I'm over protective.
It's a 3rd party app or feedback.

I've had all location services and features turned on except Feedback since October and have barely been using 50MB a month, which includes downloading games and Apps from Marketplace.
Could be the feedback feature i suppose, i've recently turned mine on but disabled the option to send via GPRS so it won't make a difference i guess.

I've had all location services and features turned on except Feedback since October and have barely been using 50MB a month, which includes downloading a couple of games and Apps from Marketplace.
Could be the feedback feature i suppose, i've recently turned mine on but disabled the option to send via GPRS so it won't make a difference i guess.

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Do you have it on mobile viewing, or desktop viewing? Remember that other phones searched from Google used to limit the viewing for mobile devices. Google would reformat them. Bing doesn't do that, especially if you have it browse as if you're using a desktop.
I have location services on all the time, as well as 3G. The phone uses probably 5MB/day along with my emails, and some MSN. Location services is not the problem, and I lock and find my phone everyday to make sure it's working Yes, I'm over protective.
It's a 3rd party app or feedback.
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Yes I have it in desktop view do you think that could be it?

[Q] TILT 2 Privacy Policy Has DIRECT Parallels w/ the IPHONE location tracking policy

So its all over the news that Iphones, and Ipads are tracking the coordinates of their users, along with timestamps 24/7 UNENCRYPTED. I was researching this topic and found an article clearly suggesting that the same thing is going on with the Rhodium/Tilt 2, this was hinted at by this site showing HTC Sense's "Privacy" policy, which clearly states that HTC has the right to collect, store, transmit, and share a users location data. So can anyone do some filesystem digging and figure out to what extent were being subjected to this on our phones? On the Iphone you cant turn off the automatic tracking at all, unless you jailbreak the phone. Im wondering if the same is the case for our phones?, also wondering where this location history file could be stored, how much is stored, how much its accessed/transmitted, and most importantly whether its encrypted or not? And anything else that may be interesting. We all have a right to privacy, having an unencypted history of everywhere you've been should be disturbing to anyone, because well, first of all its unencrypted. Second of all, this feels like the gov't's solution to not having to put a chip in each of our necks like a dog, one by one. You want your girlfriend snooping and seeing on a map that you were at the nudie bar? This can cause all kinds of problems in peoples lives. Access to a map like with the Iphones location history is a stalkers dream. Unencryptedly disturbing. So lets figure out how data is used, stored, and gathered on our phones, and what to do about it, based on what the Iphone does I'm not confident right now that turning off the location setting will stop this. Below is HTC Sense's "Privacy" Policy.
From HTC’s Sense Privacy Statement:
"To provide location-based services, HTC and its partners may collect, use, transmit, process, store and share precise location data about your device. Location information may be transmitted even when you are not using a third party location-sharing service. This information may include but is not limited to your device ID and name, device type and real-time geographic location of your device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by HTC and its partners to provide and improve location-based products and services. You may also be able to submit to HTC location data such as “Points of Interest,” voice notes to share with friends, and other information. HTC may also supplement the information it collects with information obtained from other companies. HTC may share geographic location data with application providers when you opt in to use their location-based services. By enabling or using the location-based services or features (such as displaying your phone location, posting Footprints, etc.) and applications that depend on location-based information, you agree and consent to HTC collecting, using, transmitting, processing, storing and sharing information related to your account and the devices registered to your account for purposes of providing such location-based services or features to you. You may withdraw this consent by turning off the “HTC Locate” function in the location settings (as applicable) on your device. Some location-based services that HTC offers, such as the “HTC Locate” feature and remote lock or remote erase functions, require your Personal Information for the feature to work. If you use third party services that use or provide location data as part of the Service, you are subject to and should review the third party’s terms and privacy policy regarding the third party’s use of location data. Location data provided by the Service is not intended to be relied upon. HTC and its partners do not guarantee the availability, accuracy, completeness, reliability, or timeliness of location data or any other data displayed by the Service. The “HTC Locate” feature is intended for your personal use only to locate, send a message to, or remote lock or remote erase your own device. The location-based services are not intended or suitable for use as an emergency locator system."

Turn GPS off, problem solved?
Would using a non HTC/Sense rom solve the problem, if it exists?
I use android, no problems on my end
rhod 110

ryannathans said:
I use android, no problems on my end
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Hahaha!
Good one.
(Android tracks your location too)

toadlife said:
Hahaha!
Good one.
(Android tracks your location too)
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I know, not as serious as everyone has made the iphone issue though

With the Iphone, turning off the GPS doesnt disable this, the phone will resort to cell tower triangulation instead, which is something even an old school Nokia can achieve, nevermind our phones. The only way to turn the tracking off w/ the Iphone is to jailbreak it, or take the battery out. Ill bet anything that our phones are the same way. Its so cute having the weather right on your phone displaying the exact town you're in and temperature, but i'm sure after reading that "privacy" policy that thats all recorded somewhere on the phone, coordinates etc. And even if you can somehow be sure the location feature is turned off and not recording, theres got to be a history file still left behind, which needs to get tossed.