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Suggestions for Xperia S replacement

Good Day guys,
First and foremost, this is not a SONY hate thread so all Sony watchdogs, give me a break okay?
After being disappointed with the recent turn of events thats been happening with my Xperia S, I am now planning to "upgrade" my hardware after a year of using my phone. I just need something that's less of a headache(good battery life, good performance, etc.)
I know the new Galaxy S4 sounds good specs-wise but honestly, its just too ugly for me. iOS device are out of the question too(EEEWW!)
So far, I still feel that Sony still comes on top with regards to producing gorgeous phones. I know they produce good firmwares too(I bought my misis a Xperia V: Its buttery smooth, good performance, etc.; hence that's what triggered this "envy" inside of me.)
Initially, I thought it was because of Jelly Bean but after upgrading my XS, I noticed that the difference is substantial. (My phone still feels like an ICS device, with just JB themes...if you guys get what I mean) Honestly, I dont blame Sony for not sending their top devs to work on the XS because lets face it, they don't make money from it anymore...and as most of us will agree, money makes the world go round....ANYWAYS....
So far the two contenders are Xperia Z and Xperia SP(XS predecessor? )
Specs wise, I'm more keen on the Z, Also, waterproof is nice(again, my misis has a V...and it probably paid off from what I saw her do to her phones)
But I've seen threads about the XSP out performing Z on benchmark tests...plus it also has an illumination bar! Also, the $200 price difference between the two here in Australia seems a lot.
Now before some of you guys blow-off on me and start posting things like:"Do a search!" or "This is not the right forum!"...
My question is this:
Coming from a Xperia S,... Which would you prefer?
Basically, I am asking opinions from you guys, Xperia S users, with regards to what you think (in terms of feel, size, practicality, etc.)
IMO, 5" screen is a bit of an over-kill if you ask me(especially transitioning from an XS)
Any personal experiences are highly valued.
Thanks in advance...

I had an iPhone 4 sgs2 lg thrill ion as of recent. I LOVED my galaxy s2 I honestly wanted to get it back after I got my ion. I've played with the new HTC one x? So many ones, but the sound was fantastic from the forward facing speakers. I'd also take the iPhone 5 I enjoyed my 4 . The galaxy has an open boot loader with tons of custom roms as well as a mod for inductive (wireless ) charging that I'd love to try when I get my new phone. I'm personally after the sgs4 or iPhone 5
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HTC One could be an option if you want to choose another brand.

HTC one or a nexus device. Or you can stay with your Sony device and wait for the next release of a nexus device.

Was actually thinkin about HTC too...
I always hated how HTC phones looked "plastic" and toyish but after seeing the new HTC One, I'm really liking the new look with aluminum body.
Here's a good read:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_vs_xperia_z-review-917.php
My sister had a SGS2 also and she loved it. Only thing I didn't like about it was the screen. Resolution and color wasn't that great compared to XS. I got turned off ever since I saw the SGS3 though(call me vain, but that design isn't just me)
Will the next nexus phone still be an LG? I have a really bad experience with them(owned 2 phones, both were crap)
Iphone5...its just too rich for me. Couldn't swallow paying for it (as well as buying all the expensive apps)

How about SG4 Active? I love its design more then SG4 and its water and dust proof.

such rtypte
I would definitely go for the Xperia Z. In terms of specs, it crushes SP. Bigger screen, higher PPI, higher resolution, quad-core processor over dual-core, 2GB of RAM over 1 GB, better camera. Anyway, I think you knew this already. Also being waterproof and dust resistant is a nice and quite handy feature. It is more expensive, of course, but it will make a difference. Getting an SP feels like an update while getting the Z feels like an upgrade. Just think about it, SP is quite similar to S and if you are going to spend money, even if it's more, spend it on something that will make a difference, that will make you feel like you have a new phone or you will end up with a polished version of the S. Now, it's your choice, but I highly recommend you go for the Z.

18lama said:
How about SG4 Active? I love its design more then SG4 and its water and dust proof.
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Hmmm...looks better, but still too curvey for me. :-S
Decent specs though
alex.sg said:
I would definitely go for the Xperia Z. In terms of specs, it crushes SP. Bigger screen, higher PPI, higher resolution, quad-core processor over dual-core, 2GB of RAM over 1 GB, better camera. Anyway, I think you knew this already. Also being waterproof and dust resistant is a nice and quite handy feature. It is more expensive, of course, but it will make a difference. Getting an SP feels like an update while getting the Z feels like an upgrade. Just think about it, SP is quite similar to S and if you are going to spend money, even if it's more, spend them on something that will make a difference, that will make you feel like you have a new phone or you will end up with a polished version of the S. Now, it's your choice, but I highly recommend you go for the Z.
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Yeah, i figured that too...
But now they have the ZR coming out...not to mention the ZL!
Damn you Sony! Why do you make it hard for me to choose!!!
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I don't know when they will launch this but it would be Epic to have one.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/asus-padfone-infinity-review/

If it was for me, I will buy Xperia Z.
The best looking (IMO), waterproof, bigger screen than XS, best scpecs.
If the GS4 was not all made of plastic, the choice would have been more complicated

I would say go for HTC One. Better specs than XZ, boomsound, lighter UI(atleast lighter than sense 4), faster updates than XZ,good support for custom roms,etc..
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bobby8921 said:
If it was for me, I will buy Xperia Z.
The best looking (IMO), waterproof, bigger screen than XS, best scpecs.
If the GS4 was not all made of plastic, the choice would have been more complicated
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Okay, went to Optus(Mobile provider here in Australia) earlier today to check out the phones.
I inspected 3 phones in total: HTC One, SGS4, and the Xperia Z.
So far, here's my personal verdict on the 3.
Build quality:
SGS4 - Looks sturdy from afar but once held, feel is too "plastiky". My Xperia S feels "tougher" than the SGS4. Somehow, I don't comfortable putting it in my pocket while my 2 year-old bounces around on my lap. The plastic case feels flimsy. It was a bit "squeaky" too.
HTC One - Feels really sturdy. The fact that it is made of one-piece aluminum, I wouldn't be surprised. I think that thing can double as a weapon in bar fights(metaphorically speaking, of course). Actually, Im surprised they did not make it water-proof. They could have just added a few rubber seals here and there and that would be it.
Xperia Z - With both glass front and back, it definitely feels better than the SGS4. It feels "durable" too.The power button was moved to a good location too. Its now a bit accessible, compared to my Xperia S. Its a bit high maintenance though when it comes to keeping it clean. I just held it for a few minutes and it was already coated with smudges.
Looks:
SGS4 - no comment.
HTC One - It looks good in a sense that its very unique for a HTC phone. The look is a bit retro also, which I like.
Xperia Z - Damn, that phone is gorgeous. For some reason, Sony did a very good job in making that phone look elegant and classy. Its decent enough to pull out in a black tie party yet it can still blend in well when going on a hunting trip.
I couldn't really comment on performance since I was not able to turn on both the HTC and Xperia Z since they didn't have demo units for those two.
At the end of the day, I went with the Z. Factoring in the price and features(I just love the waterproof feature), I'd be getting the most out of my money.
Phone will arrive in 5 days(they didn't have white, so I had to pre-order)
After that, its bye-bye Xperia S
Thanks for the help guys!

chefnoob said:
Okay, went to Optus(Mobile provider here in Australia) earlier today to check out the phones.
I inspected 3 phones in total: HTC One, SGS4, and the Xperia Z.
So far, here's my personal verdict on the 3.
Build quality:
SGS4 - Looks sturdy from afar but once held, feel is too "plastiky". My Xperia S feels "tougher" than the SGS4. Somehow, I don't comfortable putting it in my pocket while my 2 year-old bounces around on my lap. The plastic case feels flimsy. It was a bit "squeaky" too.
HTC One - Feels really sturdy. The fact that it is made of one-piece aluminum, I wouldn't be surprised. I think that thing can double as a weapon in bar fights(metaphorically speaking, of course). Actually, Im surprised they did not make it water-proof. They could have just added a few rubber seals here and there and that would be it.
Xperia Z - With both glass front and back, it definitely feels better than the SGS4. It feels "durable" too.The power button was moved to a good location too. Its now a bit accessible, compared to my Xperia S. Its a bit high maintenance though when it comes to keeping it clean. I just held it for a few minutes and it was already coated with smudges.
Looks:
SGS4 - no comment.
HTC One - It looks good in a sense that its very unique for a HTC phone. The look is a bit retro also, which I like.
Xperia Z - Damn, that phone is gorgeous. For some reason, Sony did a very good job in making that phone look elegant and classy. Its decent enough to pull out in a black tie party yet it can still blend in well when going on a hunting trip.
I couldn't really comment on performance since I was not able to turn on both the HTC and Xperia Z since they didn't have demo units for those two.
At the end of the day, I went with the Z. Factoring in the price and features(I just love the waterproof feature), I'd be getting the most out of my money.
Phone will arrive in 5 days(they didn't have white, so I had to pre-order)
After that, its bye-bye Xperia S
Thanks for the help guys!
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Remember to case it. It's fragile.
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Top phones for me. . .
HTC One - Great hardware, great software, great build quality. The perfect phone
SGS4 - Great hardware, the best software, bad build quality. Although the build quality improved greatly compared to SGS3.
Xperia Z - Hardware trails behind SGS4 & HTC One, great software but bad support, and absolutely amazing build quality, the best build quality I've ever seen.
Nexus 4 - Probably outdated hardware but still great, direct Google software support, great build quality. Better wait for the next generation this coming months.

I was almost won over by HTC One...The thing that prevented me from getting is was actually the camera. 4MP?!? For a 2013 phone, thats a bit weak.

get Xperia ZL and join our community..
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i wish the z had US lte bands

chefnoob said:
Good Day guys,
Now before some of you guys blow-off on me and start posting things like:"Do a search!" or "This is not the right forum!"...
My question is.....
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Xperia ZL or Galaxy S3?

I found a deal that would get me a Galaxy S3 or an Xperia ZL at the same price, the S3 is new, and the Xperia ZL is a used one. I've been having many problems with my Galaxy Nexus lately and am looking for a suitable replacement.
Which one is a better option?
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If ZL is in good condition then you can go for Xperia ZL becoz you will get latest tech spec compare S3, and S3 is now year old device..........

However, Galaxy S3 has an SAMOLED screen (far better blacks and far batter viewing angles), replacable battery and a way bigger developer community. It depends what you expect from your phone.
I had to face the same decision and decided to get the Xperia ZL for the Full HD resolution and hopefully better lifetime of my screen (SAMOLED screens tend to get worse over the course of years).
Greetings

Yeah, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I was searching for a phone with a great dev support. I like everything about the S3 except the design. And I like the ZL because of it's newer innards and FullHD screen, but I've heard that it's really washed out, color wise..
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yeah the display appears washed-out when you don't look directly into the screen but in real life it does't matter much at least for me now its depend you...... i had same problem choosing between this phones but i wanted latest spec so that i can have good gaming experience as well as watching video on 5" Full HD screen its too Good, you can compare both phone online that may help you.....

Get ZL if its in good condition.
Its better than s3.
But just make sure ZL is not opened and repaired...before
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Well actually i came from S3, i love the viewing angles, and battery replace. but i decided to buy the ZL and let me tell you. ZL its like 1000 times better than S3 in terms of support, hardware, and even quality and design, viewing angles i dont really care, its not that bad at all. the truth is that the screen it the best screen i have seen on a phone, really 441 pixel per inch and a 5'? wow in a compact design even much smaller than S3.
In other words, go for the ZL if the phone is in excelent condition and never had been opened.:good:

Yeah, I went to a nearby shop and got a hands on of the ZL, really nice phone.
What's the battery like? Screen on with 3g?
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With 3G I'd say 3-4 hours but WiFi I get around 5 hours max.
Screen pixels are awesome but energivore. You'll get used to it tho.
The Sony UI is also a huge bonus over vanilla Android UI. At first I was annoyed by it but now I feel like I'm really using my Android phone for real.

I'd go for the ZL. It feels much better than the S3, and looks much better, too. On top of that, you get a better processor (Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412), a better graphics chip (Adreno 320 vs Mali 400), and twice the amount of RAM (1 GB vs 2 GB). On top of that, you get a full HD screen. There have been complaints about the viewing angles, but I'd say the viewing angles are not as bad as they are made out to be. Viewed top-down, though, the display is really, really good. For some reason--and I've observed this on a couple of units--the ZL's display is better than the Z's (I've actually got to evaluate both side by side with a Z).
So, if the ZL's in pristine condition, I'd say you go for it. Otherwise, if it's been "damaged" to some extent--you know, scratches and stuff--opt for the S3. Because personally, I wouldn't go for a damaged phone, no matter how good it might be specs-wise, and neither would I advise anybody to. That said, if you're going to be using your device heavily, and there's the need to carry around a spare battery, then it's obvious the S3's the best bet for you. So, weigh up your options, see what you need. If you're going to be carrying around a spare battery for backup, you're good with the S3. Otherwise, I'd definitely pick the ZL over the S3.

S3 is good, but ZL it's better, for me. :good:

Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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coolrevi said:
Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update

Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update
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From 6.7 I got that issue... That's really strange, a repair might just fix that. Didn't get time to do it yet..
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Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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Note is different kind of phone. Bigger screen, s pen, these are some added features, which is not there in any of these phones discussed. And all of these are priced at similar range. my suggestion, go to a store use all these phone side by side pick the one you like most, if you are routine phone switcher consider note 2 as is got good resale price of all these phones.
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Is the battery life on the One X+ really bad? I'm in love with this phone.
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[Q] Which is better to buy Z2, HTC M8 or iphone 5S?

Which is the best phone to buy among z2, HTC M8, iphone 5S? These devices cost approx 50K. Which device is best value for money in present scenario? Please help.
Also How to change the black background of app drawer to some other background in HTC M8?
Thanks
Rahul.

5s is nearly a year old. Might as well wait for the 6 if you are going the ios route. I haven't played with z2 yet, but only heard good things about it but I do not like their 6 month flagship refresh plans, which means the z3 should come around the same time as the iPhone 6. So far I'm very very impress by the m8. Really unexpected.
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The good thing with an iOS device is that apple will support it with software updates for a long time, for example my iPad 2 which is like 2-3 years old is supposed to get the new iOS 8.
I don't have experience with HTC or Sony, they might also provide software updates.
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m8 for sure !! what a question in this community...

leyow said:
The good thing with an iOS device is that apple will support it with software updates for a long time, for example my iPad 2 which is like 2-3 years old is supposed to get the new iOS 8.
I don't have experience with HTC or Sony, they might also provide software updates.
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Bitter but true the care of flagship only but also old in family which make them unique
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Obviously the iPhone 5S. If you think that it can be compared with the Z2 and M8 then you don't really understand the Android phones and as such the iPhone will probably be the best option for you.
Also, these types of threads aren't really allowed as far as I know.

chattingrahul said:
Which is the best phone to buy among z2, HTC M8, iphone 5S? These devices cost approx 50K. Which device is best value for money in present scenario? Please help.
Also How to change the black background of app drawer to some other background in HTC M8?
Thanks
Rahul.
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Play with all 3 yourself and come up with your own conclusion. When buying a car do u ask in a forum or go for a test drive? At the end of the day ur the one using the phone, not me.
Coming to an M8 thread asking is kind of silly, duh the M8 since we all have one, lol!
Best value? That's a tough one. If buying on contract they all cost the same. IPhone will have an upgrade in a few months so no use buying almost a year old device. Just gotta see which u like better to use on a daily basis for urself.

Are you joking?!
The iPhone 5S is clearly out, it's garbage.
The Xperia Z2 is also garbage, but since many of you have not tried it out I will tell you why it is so bad:
1. The battery is huge. However, the screen is inefficient, it uses a lot of power and it drains that battery faster than an S5 or M8.
2. The colors of the screen are not good and the screen feels extremely cheap and plastic, it doesn't feel like glass as on the S5 or M8 or G2 or S4.
3. The sound in the headphones is terrible, not even close to the M8, maybe comparable to the S4, a little worse than the S5. Even worse than on the crApple.
4. The build quality of the phone is not that good. It catches fingerprints like hell... and they don't look like fingerprints, they look like you picked your nose and then got that stuck on your screen in the form of a fingerprint.
They say the phone is made out of glass, however when you touch it, it doesn;t feel hot or cold as glass would. Also glass shouldnt scratch so easily. So I'm guessing it's actually plexiglass not real glass or resin. It doesn't look that great after you have it for a while (the back of the phone, cause the front looks bad from the first glance).
5. The 3 GB of RAM make NO difference at all compared to the S5, M8, G2 or S4. No difference in operation at all.
6. THE CAMERA IS A TRAIN WRECK. In perfect lighting it is ok, but in even slight less than perfect lighting, it is filled with noise/grains. At dawn or early morning the grains are so bad they are actually red.
The camera on the Z2 is WAY WORSE than the M8, S5, S4, G2 even HTC m7. Even worse than on the 5S. Not to mention on Nokia.
It's a shame that all the pretend experts test the camera in good lighting... you can't believe how bad it is in less than perfect conditions.
7. Judging by how bad it is, the phone is way overpriced compared to the S4 or G2. Not even close. It shouldn't cost more than 450 dollars. You can get way better chinese phones for that money.
8. This is my personal opinion, but that massive block of black looks horrible.
WHY ARE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE Z2? They are exactly like the iPhone snobs who are a little smart and realize the iphone isn't good. So they try to be different and interesting by getting the Sony. Some are so blind to compare spec numbers and think Sony is amazing without even trying different phones to see the difference.
For the black thing, just use a launcher... Go Launcher is the best I think. I use Next Launcher, but that.s not free.. However, it's just 2 dollars or something.

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WHY ARE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE Z2?
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because its waterproof and not a samsung

Samsung is water resistant too.
And Japan is a way more racist and foreigner unfriendly country than South Korea. So if we wanna choose like that, Samsung is way better than Sony.
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Thread closed,
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Many thanks,
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Tab Pro 8.4 vs Tab S 8.4

Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.

Alexpride said:
Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.
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I think a lot depends on are you a fan of Amoled or TFT screens. Probably Tab S line will be the premium line and probably more expensive. Traditionally Amoled screens are more expensive than TFT screens.
Of course another important consideration is the price differential. It maybe more value for money to get the TabPro over the Tab S.
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
SoC wise the TabPro runs SnapDragon 800 2.3 GHz vs Exynos 1.9 GHz[Samsung stated cheaper to use in-house silicon] of the Tab S. SD800 had better gpu but essentially both are pretty similar power and battery performance wise
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So which tab would be better for reading textbooks? Which screen the SUPERLCD or the AMOLED?
If Samsung instead would have come up with a new 8.4 or 8.0 Note (S-Pen) tab it would have made more sense for a new release within a short period.

I don't like reading on white backgrounds. I try to use a black background if possible.
Having said that, SuperLCD and Amoled operate differently. LCDs have the entire backlight switched on even if the background is black. Therefore consumes more battery. Amoleds only turn on the pixel when it's not black. Therefore saving battery. But of cos if your browsing on a white background it's not going to save you battery.
As to which is better for reading textbooks, I find both technologies are just as good. Although Amoled has a wider colour gamut than LCD. So colours tend to look punchier.
I think your buying decision will likely be influenced more by the price than the tech. If the pricing differential is small than go for the Amoled. Thinner, lighter, better colours, potentially more power - saving display, more RAM.
I don't understand their marketing strategy. Launching so many TabPro/NotePro tablets not to mention their Tab4 line, and now TabS line. Maybe they just want to saturate the market.
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To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:

locutusx said:
To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:
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I agree with what you said. This LCD screen is already very good. I have a NotePro 12.2 and the screen is really good. Even better when squeezed into 8.4.
For me really depends on the price point of the TabS. I do prefer SD800 over Exynos but if the price is close I would probably get the TabS.
Ultimately you need to decide what parameters are more important to you and base your decision on that. I can only tell you my decision process but you make the final decision for yourself.
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the_eclectic1 said:
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
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It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )

Anyone know if the Tab Pro S will be offered with LTE?

Yes will be offered with LTE.
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wjharing said:
It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )
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Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
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From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.

OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4

phage80 said:
From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.
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I was afraid it might be pentile. Waiting to hear more from reviews. Though I had a nagging suspicion it was pentile, as Samsung said it was Super Amoled and not Super Amoled Plus [RGB sub pixel structure] which the Tab 7.7 had.
Speakers being on different sides would be good. Like the 10.5 & 12.2 Tabs.
Damn you Samsung. If you're going to do a superlative tablet, go all out and use Super Amoled Plus 2560x1600. It's more expensive tech. But you can charge more for it and it would justify the higher price for your target audience, especially photographers and people needing the larger color gamut and non-pentile display. And it wouldn't piss the TabPro buyers so much.
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Alexey71 said:
OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4
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It's still a good tablet. Just that you might feel cheated if you had known it was coming so soon after TabPro 8.4. Esp if the price differential is small.
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the_eclectic1 said:
Yes will be offered with LTE.
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Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
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I'm in the same boat. I would have loved to have waited for the S instead of snagging the Pro last month. Oh well. I'm still happy with my purchase.

Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.

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Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.
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Typically the Wifi ones use Exynos while the LTE ones use S800.
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The Tab Pro 8.4 wifi uses the S800 only.

Really? Not in my country.
[Edited] My bad. Looks like your right.
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i will keep the tab pro 8.4 anyday over purchasing the tab s, the qualcomm soc imho is better and faster than sammy chip, plus the benefit of having more development for us in the future on the tab pro is almost a givin,,steve

phage80 said:
From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
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That would be unfortunate. I've had (still use, for other reasons) a pentile-screened Moto. Hate that aspect of it.
That said, I have several times knowingly bought expensive technology that was about to be replaced by a newer version simply because the several-month interval was worth it. Around ten years ago, knowing a $100 price break on what I was buying would happen in a month (and this was before refunds were feasible), and knowing that an improved version was three months away, I bought a $350 PDA. (That was a lot of money back then.) But having it was worth easily $10-$20 per DAY to me, so I viewed it as an annoyance but not a deal breaker.
Ask yourself these questions: would you notice the cost of two drinks at Starbucks a day? That's about $10/day. Yeah, we gripe at spending $2 on the Play Store for an app, but my typical martini or bourbon is $12/drink.
Would having the device now make you as much happier as those two coffees or one martini? (Or, put the other way, would you be discontented by unsatisfied desire without it?)
If so, get it now, because the opportunity cost is worth it.

Is OnePlus2 old enough to upgrade to OP3 ?

Hey guys. I'm a preety satisfied OP2 user. For whole year I've been using this phone with ups and downs. Now after 3.0.2 update, phone is better than ever. I even left Beanstalk CM13 for the official update...(Am I crazy? :cyclops
I'm wondering what You think, is it really a good idea to update OP3 right now? In my honest opinion I do not see any great upgrades that are really a must have for a OP2 user...
My OnePlus2 is fast, camera is nice, screen is one of my favourite (compared to samsungs overstaurated SAMOLEDs and cheap LCDs)
Do we really need 6gb of RAM ?

M3ntoR said:
Hey guys. I'm a preety satisfied OP2 user. For whole year I've been using this phone with ups and downs. Now after 3.0.2 update, phone is better than ever. I even left Beanstalk CM13 for the official update...(Am I crazy? :cyclops
I'm wondering what You think, is it really a good idea to update OP3 right now? In my honest opinion I do not see any great upgrades that are really a must have for a OP2 user...
My OnePlus2 is fast, camera is nice, screen is one of my favourite (compared to samsungs overstaurated SAMOLEDs and cheap LCDs)
Do we really need 6gb of RAM ?
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Well, if you want Android Pay, you're gonna want the OP3. Also, if the SD810's overheating issue is driving you nuts during gaming session, you might want to try your luck with the SD820. Apart from that, I don't really see any reason to switch. Not for the 2.5D glass, not for the AMOLED screen, and definitely not for those ridiculous 6 gigs of RAM. But that's just my 2 ct.

i change because i want to having OPO 2

M3ntoR said:
Hey guys. I'm a preety satisfied OP2 user. For whole year I've been using this phone with ups and downs. Now after 3.0.2 update, phone is better than ever. I even left Beanstalk CM13 for the official update...(Am I crazy? :cyclops
I'm wondering what You think, is it really a good idea to update OP3 right now? In my honest opinion I do not see any great upgrades that are really a must have for a OP2 user...
My OnePlus2 is fast, camera is nice, screen is one of my favourite (compared to samsungs overstaurated SAMOLEDs and cheap LCDs)
Do we really need 6gb of RAM ?
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Yes for sure, as you said you have had the the OP2 for a year....more than long enough to justify a new device
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Having OP2 as well. Going for 3 ASAP!!!!!!?
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Is HTC 10 old enough to upgrade to OP3 ?

orvon.freeman said:
Is HTC 10 old enough to upgrade to OP3 ?
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Lol....i think Id stick with the 10
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lol I think I will get OP3 and keep my 10. I loved my OPO hopefully I love the 3 as well. Always good to have backup phones

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lol I think I will get OP3 and keep my 10. I loved my OPO hopefully I love the 3 as well. Always good to have backup phones
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Cant argue there lol :thumbup:
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yes better design
light weight
dash charge

Better design ?!
IMHO the design is the worst part about OP3. It no longer has it's own uniqe identity...sandstone back, specific shape of camera module etc.
Now it is just another chineese smartfone that looks a little bit like this and that... ;(

i hate the SD810, so in my mind ,i will upgrade to the OP3

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Better design ?!
IMHO the design is the worst part about OP3. It no longer has it's own uniqe identity...sandstone back, specific shape of camera module etc.
Now it is just another chineese smartfone that looks a little bit like this and that... ;(
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Personally the looks are build are the main reason im getting one, even possibly dumping my nexus 6p for it, never like the sandstone back and replaced with another. Pretty much htc 10 is is a beast but to small, this is pretty much a nicer looking htc 10 thinner and has bigger screen, im all in
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Everyone who bought a heatdragon 810 should get rid of it the first chance they have
Anyway I don't think you really need our answers. I'm probably gonna buy a oneplus 3 later today, but I'm still on my Samsung Galaxy s3 so for me a new phone is certainly justified
If I were you I would wonder if you're annoyed at anything from your current phone and what extras this new phone would really offer you. My own phone is restarting once a day (soft reboot) and it's a bit slow these days (on cm13) so that's worth an upgrade for me this year. Your reasons could be different.
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Problem is that there is nothing that annoys me with op2...snap 810 is not causing any problems for me.
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If your OP2 just works fine, you may just wait until the next release to have some real improvements, I switched from the OPO to the OP3, because OPO had not the LTE bands I need.