Hello all,
I have the FTV box going directly to my TV via the HDMI cable. I also have the FTV box going to my receiver via optical cable for audio.
I have the same setup for my cable box. There is no connection from TV to receiver.
In the past, with other devices (Roku, WDTV) I would play some content from Netflix or Amazon prime, but would then turn my TV off - leaving me with just audio. I do this at night because I like to listen to something as I go to sleep.
With the FTV, I have noticed as soon as I change to a different content source on my TV, or if I turn off my TV, the audio from the FTV stops. Does anyone know if there is a way to get around this?
Sounds like CEC HDMI communication between the FTV and your TV. When you turn one device off, the device that receives the signal to turn off tells the other device to turn off or go into standby. Maybe there's a setting in the FTV to turn that feature off? Or, you could probably disable it at the TV. Samsung has a different name for it (AnyNet or some such).
jpage101 said:
Hello all,
I have the FTV box going directly to my TV via the HDMI cable. I also have the FTV box going to my receiver via optical cable for audio.
I have the same setup for my cable box. There is no connection from TV to receiver.
In the past, with other devices (Roku, WDTV) I would play some content from Netflix or Amazon prime, but would then turn my TV off - leaving me with just audio. I do this at night because I like to listen to something as I go to sleep.
With the FTV, I have noticed as soon as I change to a different content source on my TV, or if I turn off my TV, the audio from the FTV stops. Does anyone know if there is a way to get around this?
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Connect the fire TV via optical out....this will continue to play the audio when you turn the TV off. Have not tried this with ftv but I have a similar situation with my windowshtpc.
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floepie said:
Sounds like CEC HDMI communication between the FTV and your TV. When you turn one device off, the device that receives the signal to turn off tells the other device to turn off or go into standby. Maybe there's a setting in the FTV to turn that feature off? Or, you could probably disable it at the TV. Samsung has a different name for it (AnyNet or some such).
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Thank you very much. That was it. I disabled it at the TV level. It's called "Power Link" on Panasonic TV's.
It appears I also am having this problem, but my TV does not have an option to turn off the power feature. I remember awhile back someone somewhere saying there was an adapter for the hdmi that helped with this. Anyone have an idea of what it was? Would love to listen to music on this thing and not return it and go back to my old Roku
Sorry - Bit of Necro Posting! Seemed better than starting a new one.
I have pretty much the same issue - have no option on my Samsung TV to disable CEC as it does not support it (confirmed with Samsung).
If it turn off the TV it stops the audio and the youtube app will "crash". i put that in inverted commas as it is a strange sort of crash. the app still functions and will browse the subscriptions/channels ect but will not load the video - i just get the spinning dots. Only a full restart of the device fixes it
Have reset to factory defaults and deleted the apps.
Thinking it is connected to the TV in some way as if i put a HDMI switcher in between, it doesnt happen.
Gen 1 AFTV - latest OS
Sound - Optical out to Samsung Soundbar
Video - HDMI to Samsung LT31D
If anyone has any ideas, i'd be grateful. Happy to supply any info that may be usefull.
Cheers
Rob
Robmason1982 said:
Sorry - Bit of Necro Posting! Seemed better than starting a new one.
I have pretty much the same issue - have no option on my Samsung TV to disable CEC as it does not support it (confirmed with Samsung).
If it turn off the TV it stops the audio and the youtube app will "crash". i put that in inverted commas as it is a strange sort of crash. the app still functions and will browse the subscriptions/channels ect but will not load the video - i just get the spinning dots. Only a full restart of the device fixes it
Have reset to factory defaults and deleted the apps.
Thinking it is connected to the TV in some way as if i put a HDMI switcher in between, it doesnt happen.
Gen 1 AFTV - latest OS
Sound - Optical out to Samsung Soundbar
Video - HDMI to Samsung LT31D
If anyone has any ideas, i'd be grateful. Happy to supply any info that may be usefull.
Cheers
Rob
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if you have root on firetv just remove CEC support from the FTV
Ludacrisvp said:
if you have root on firetv just remove CEC support from the FTV
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Can you advise how i would do that - cant see it in settings? I have rooted.
Many thanks
Removal of the CEC daemon process is likely all you need to do.
Mount system partition as read write then remove:
/system/bin/cecdaemon
Then reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/solved-hdmi-cec-firetv-4k-fireos-5-0-5-t3328985
Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
elmurato said:
Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
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I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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On my toshia the arrows and select were working. But there was no back or home.
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
c0mm0n said:
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
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Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
elmurato said:
Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure play/pause worked for me. But I just got a FLIRC. Much better and more flexible.
Not working for me. Panasonic TV.
with pi it works perfectly...
actually the TV DO recognize there's a hdmi CEC supported device but none of the buttons do something
Tested on Sanyo TV designed for use with roku.
Directions and media buttons work.
Back works (but brings up roku qr overlay)
the Exit button also functions as Back.
Hey,
My FireTV is connected to my Onkyo TX-NR626 amp and from there to my LG TV, I can control the FireTV with the remote of the Onkyo and everything is working, select, back, directions, play, pause, and skip
But you have to enter a code for a RIHD (CEC) enabled device on the remote, the code is 31612 if I'am not wrong
The only thing that is not working is you can't wake up the FireTV out of the standby
Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
Sony Bravia Sync
Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
I don't know anything about CEC on other platforms. I just got a Fire TV two days ago.
I was very happily surprised when my TV's remote (Sony Bravia 47") worked on the Fire. My Girlfriend grabbed the TV remote as we were setting the fire up, and many of the commands were mapped to Sony remote buttons. Since I had cloned the remote to my Universal Remote URC20, it also works. I can create macros and treat the Fire TV like it has an IR remote. Very handy functionality.
All I have done is navigation, backward, forward, select, etc. Of course, you need the Fire remote for voice control.
Someone in another thread said that Samsung TVs didn't run commands back through HDMI. So, obviously ot depends on TV manufacturer.
On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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I also have a Samsung, I found out that Play/Pause and FF/REW are the only one's that works. lol pretty disappointing.
Latest TV firmware UE55D8000/5 v2 (there are later firmwares on the web than ota updates for some odd reason).
Latest Preerooted firmware on aFTV.
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On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
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Hmm. What year is the TV? My 2013 LG remote has no problem with the Fire TV.
Cec is a pita for me and my lg 55ub8500, it works fine if you have the TV on and then power the firetv on.. But if you have the firetv on and power on the TV.. It's a no go until you restart the ftv. Would be ok I'd the ftv would turn off but mine stays on like 24/7.
If your lg TV is new (2014) turn on simplink in the menus and setup your hdmi port to be a denon Avr(or any device that supports cec, not all do) and it should work
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Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
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Same on my 2013 Sony TV, the remote's HOME button functions as Android's MENU button, whilst the remote's OPTIONS button does nothing. Shame, so close to being perfect. Still hoping the Fire TV will get a working root and that we can change the HDMI-CEC options that way.
I just bought a Noname 40" TV (Hisense LTDN40D36SEU) and was really surprised that it supports CEC quite well!
Nav, OK, Play, Pause, < Skip > and even Stop (! Not even on the Fire TV Remote itself) are working perfectly.
Just hoping to find a way to get Home and Context working. As theres a way to go to a Developer-Page on the TV, even with dumping firmware Option, im optimistic to get it fixed one day. Or, even better as Spence1115 said, hopefully Someday Root on the FireTV and a way to change it over here.
i had conflict on my samsung smart tv 2014 when connecting the AFTV it also played havoc with my receiver so i have decided to use a cec less adaptor and it worked a treat just in case anyone wanted to know and if they get conflicts (mine was connecting and disconnecting all my devices randomly)
Hi.
I just got a LG 42lb5600 and I can't even see the simplink option.
No buttons work on the fire.
Is there a firmware update or something I can do?
I hope that one day we will get the ability to program certain key presses through CEC on the Fire TV. Works great with sideloaded Kodi on my fireTV Stick but sadly no context or home functionality.
When I first got the stick I connected it to HDMI-1 on my Panasonic Plasma to do some testing, I later permanently moved it to one of the HDMI ports on my Pioneer receiver. The receiver connects to the TV via HDMI-2 where ARC is. The problem is that when I switch the receiver to the Fire TV input the TV automatically gets switched to HDMI-1 where nothing is connected, this also happens when FireTV gets out of sleep mode. I have to switch the TV back to HDMI-2. I am assuming that the FireTV is doing this via CEC. I have a Chromecast, Roku, SageTV and a PC connected to the receiver and none of them exhibit this behavior.
I rebooted multiple times but id does not help. I can disable CEC on the TV or Receiver but then I loose ARC so that is not an option. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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When I first got the stick I connected it to HDMI-1 on my Panasonic Plasma to do some testing, I later permanently moved it to one of the HDMI ports on my Pioneer receiver. The receiver connects to the TV via HDMI-2 where ARC is. The problem is that when I switch the receiver to the Fire TV input the TV automatically gets switched to HDMI-1 where nothing is connected, this also happens when FireTV gets out of sleep mode. I have to switch the TV back to HDMI-2. I am assuming that the FireTV is doing this via CEC. I have a Chromecast, Roku, SageTV and a PC connected to the receiver and none of them exhibit this behavior.
I rebooted multiple times but id does not help. I can disable CEC on the TV or Receiver but then I loose ARC so that is not an option. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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There is a way to disable cec on rooted firetv’s but the easier way to fix this is to completely shut down the whole setup and hopefully the firetv will resync back to the correct input.
navigates said:
There is a way to disable cec on rooted firetv’s but the easier way to fix this is to completely shut down the whole setup and hopefully the firetv will resync back to the correct input.
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Unplugged everything and it seemed to be fixed but the next day it is back to switching my TV to HDMI 1 on its own.
farfromuman said:
Unplugged everything and it seemed to be fixed but the next day it is back to switching my TV to HDMI 1 on its own.
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Probably more of an issue with your tv .. possibly receiver. Is there a firmware update for your tv?
cec less adaptor
i had conflict on my Samsung tv with other cec devices and the best way around it i got a cec less adaptor for the hdmi cable plugged into the AFTV this stops the AFTV conflicting with your other devices as thats what it sounds like it is doing like mine was
only downside it will not auto channel switch when waking AFTV from sleep
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Probably more of an issue with your tv .. possibly receiver. Is there a firmware update for your tv?
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since the firetv likes to go back to hdmi1. why not switch your hdmi's to give it input 1?
navigates said:
since the firetv likes to go back to hdmi1. why not switch your hdmi's to give it input 1?
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Yes that would seem logical but the ARC is on HDMI2 so I would have to run an additional cable back to the Receiver. I switched to the FireTV Box and it works fine without interfering with my TV's HDMI inputs. The stick will go to the second TV in the house and if it has an issue there I will do a full reset.
Similar issue here with receiver (Denon X2000) switching to TV input (Samsung UN60F6350) in 1-2 seconds after I manually switch the input to Fire TV (box, not stick). This behavior developed over past 1-2 weeks or so, before I've been using Fire TV with no issues.
After setting HDMI control to "OFF" in receiver's Video settings it stopped switching, so my theory is that somehow my "smart" TV sends activation signal to the receiver and makes it switch. This is similar to any HDMI device starting to play, except in this case looks like TV keeps sending that signal constantly.
A quick fix, but annoying, is to just unplug the HDMI cable from the Fire TV box or Fire stick. I have had these devices for a long time and never had a problem until a few months ago. It is annoying! Every (about 30 minutes...almost like it was on a timer of sorts) time I am watching my DirecTV cable box HDMI input, it will just switch to the HDMI input that the Fire TV box (or Fire TV stick) is on. SO it has to be something that the Amazon box is sending out through the HDMI cable to the TV that causes the HDMI input to change. AMAZON needs to send out an update that eliminates that problem because it HAS TO BE in their software coding. As BIG of a problem as this is, you would think that they would have fixed this already. There are many other streaming boxes out there now that are much better, cheaper, and do not have issues like this. They stand to lose a ton of future dollars if they don't fix this problem. I have invested in 6 boxes for the 6 TV's in my home. They need to do something about this!!
Hi!
I have a TCL BeyondTV2 (C715) and a Harman Kardon AVR 171s, that has HDMI ARC capability. My brother who owned the system before used it without problem with a Sony Bravia TV (I don't know the exact model) through HDMI ARC. (I think he only had an issue that the AVR could not turn on with CEC only off, but I think he just misconfigured it)
Now I have the AVR and tried to use it with my TCL C715 through ARC, but with no luck. I have all CEC and everything set up, and it is works... for about 10 minutes, when the TV switches back to speakers, and TV remote stops to relay volume up and down controls to AVR. If I switch the input on the AVR from HDMI to something else and back, sometimes it comes back for another 5-10 minutes.
If I use the AVR with S/PDIF the audio is fine, but obviously I cannot control it with my TV remote so, I have to use 2 remotes and separately switch on everything. It is annoying
I recently updated the TV's system to V8-R851T02-LF1V715.000032, but it did not fixed the issue.
I think i have the latest update on the AVR.
Did someone encountered this problem? Does anybody have ideas how I could debug this? I did not find any related posts on the forum, but maybe I missed one. I have ADB set up, so if there is a way to get logs I would be happy to (I did not see anything with logcat, but maybe I used it incorrectly)
Any ideas appreciated!