Android Auto Max Page Limit - Connected Car

If you've used Android Auto, you know there is a max tap limit of 6. My goal is to patch this out I have a prototype of the fix done, just need to go and get an Android Auto radio and test it.
It's really not that big of a patch, took a bit to find, but that's because the safety message is some how not actually used...though in the resources.
Is anyone interested in this patch once tested. It WILL need to be patched version, unless someone can tell me an easier way to keep it dynamic.

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hi
i would definitely be interested in testing a patched version,I have a gen1 Motorola moto g and a 2016 vauxhall astra with android auto.
I find the page limit very irritating as I cant access a lot of my playlists without moving them around on the phone then plugging back in!,I really think a patched version would be extremely popular. I think the limit shouldn't apply when the car is not moving! I was really surprised when I hit the limit,I expected the limit to go away after I stopped the car but it doesn't

PLEASE PLEASE YES My new car has AA, and the limit is driving me crazy! I'd be happy to test if needed.
Galaxy S6 Edge rooted 5.1 OS

The latest AA update (only on x64 phones) has some updates to the 6 tap limit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/4bmncc/android_auto_16_released_apk_here_apkmirror/
If you are not moving, it removes the limit. I have a microbypass in my Pioneer 4100NEX but AA still detects that I am moving so Im guessing its based off of GPS (<uses-permission android:name="com.google.android.gms.permission.CAR_SPEED"/>) . IF you could find the string to disable GPS check on that, it would release the limit.
But if you have this patch ready, Im willing to try as well. The 6 tap limit is terrible
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natalic said:
If you've used Android Auto, you know there is a max tap limit of 6. My goal is to patch this out I have a prototype of the fix done, just need to go and get an Android Auto radio and test it.
It's really not that big of a patch, took a bit to find, but that's because the safety message is some how not actually used...though in the resources.
Is anyone interested in this patch once tested. It WILL need to be patched version, unless someone can tell me an easier way to keep it dynamic.
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The latest AA update (only on x64 phones) has some updates to the 6 tap limit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto...ere_apkmirror/
If you are not moving, it removes the limit. I have a microbypass in my Pioneer 4100NEX but AA still detects that I am moving so Im guessing its based off of GPS (<uses-permission android:name="com.google.android.gms.permission.CAR_SPEED"/>) . IF you could find the string to disable GPS check on that, it would release the limit.
But if you have this patch ready, Im willing to try as well. The 6 tap limit is terrible

Any update or news on this?
The latest version of Android Auto as someone mentioned removes the limit when parked. I've tried disabling location and while Google maps no longer works on AA...the tap limit remains.

natalic said:
If you've used Android Auto, you know there is a max tap limit of 6. My goal is to patch this out I have a prototype of the fix done, just need to go and get an Android Auto radio and test it.
It's really not that big of a patch, took a bit to find, but that's because the safety message is some how not actually used...though in the resources.
Is anyone interested in this patch once tested. It WILL need to be patched version, unless someone can tell me an easier way to keep it dynamic.
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Any update on this?

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Security-wise, what are my options?

Hey,
I'm 100% new to doing any sort of custom stuff with my Android devices, so please forgive my dumb questions.
I've known for a while now that my Nexus 7 was vulnerable since it stopped receiving security updates in August 2016, but I wasn't terribly concerned at the time since I use it so casually. With this recent WPA2 news, though, I'm kinda anxious.
Is there any way at all to make my device secure? Google doesn't give a **** so I know there's no chance in hell it gets an official patch, so I assume I have to go with a custom ROM, but I have no idea where to start.
If I went with a custom version, will I still be able to use the apps I own? Will I still be able to use stuff like Chrome and Drive as well? Also, if I'm using a custom ROM, is there actually any guarantee that it is actually secure? How do I ensure it receives security updates in an unofficial setting?
tl;dr version: Just hoping for a way to use my Android device mostly in the same way I already do, but with actual security updates going forward, since Google are a-holes.
Be aware that some apps will refuse to run on a rooted device. You also won't be able to use Google Pay.
You can mitigate the security issue somewhat by using a VPN service; all your communications will be encrypted, so a MITM attack should fail unless they can also decrypt your communications stream.
I use PrivateInternetAccess myself; one of their app's features is the ability to bypass VPN for selected apps, so for example I can run Pokemon Go (which won't run on VPN) and avoid running video streams through VPN (I don't really care if they can see me watching Hill Street Blues on Hulu and I'd rather avoid the performance hit). YMMV and I'd recommend doing your own research, and VPN isn't a magic bullet. But it makes the WPA2 problem less urgent without a lot of work and without having to root your device.
Mind you, I'm saying all this while perusing the forums to discover what custom ROMs are available for my Nexus 7, as I'm considering rooting it.
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To address a different part of your question, aside from the "some things won't run rooted" issue I already mentioned, the rest of your apps should run fine. You'll want to install some version of Open GApps to get Google functionality. That's probably covered in the instructions for the custom ROM.
Two favorites are LineageOS, which has a lot of neat features added, and AOSP, which is the bare Google Android experience with neither bells nor whistles.
Keep in mind that if you don't like what you get, you can always change. So if LineageOS isn't for you, you can try AOSP, or something else if you find it. I'm assuming that somebody has the base ROM available; it should even be possible to put the stock ROM back and unroot the device. Know that I'm speaking from inexperience, sorta... I haven't done this with a Nexus yet, but I've done it lots of times with a Galaxy S4. So I'm not really an authority but I figured I could get you started in the right direction, at least. Just remember to back up everything on your device before you start.
Really, really be sure you back up before you start.
I'm having this conundrum as well. I currently use MM on my Nexus 7 2013 due to better idle time and more reliable WiFi. It seems like there is no way to fix this vulnerability without moving to Nougat.
Lineage OS is a good rom to start with. It receives security updates OTA, and it doesn't come with root binaries, so most apps should work.
anzianzi said:
Lineage OS is a good rom to start with. It receives security updates OTA, and it doesn't come with root binaries, so most apps should work.
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new firmware 47.1.A.12.75

New firmware today!
47.1.A.12.75
News soon...
Stay tuned
This update includes the 1 February 2018 security patches, So, it should fix Meltdown and Spectre CPU vulnerabilities.
For other news... Stay tuned
Someone also say:
Now there's option to hide apps button and use swipe up to access apps drawer
Fix gps symbol issue (but someone else say not!)
New Aspect menu in the Settings (more options), new icons for the apps shortcuts
update of the Support app to version 3.6.12 that solved the issue with "information unavailable" being now the correct information displayed
fixed adabtive brightness issue and its works well now!
(all by: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...e-v-47-1-A-12-75-add-to-my-phone/td-p/1299379 )
Here in xda, on xperia zx1 forum, Tornlogic say:
Tornlogic said:
So I have installed the update and did some quick benchmarks before and after the update. Interesting results. So naturally the benchmarks that happened in the morning were before I installed the update and the ones in the afternoon were after I installed the update.
As for the battery benchmark, I simply ran each test for 1 hour 10 minutes. So yea, the new update provided better battery performance but worse single core... by a little. Multi-core was a tad better with the new update. This of course is not all inclusive results, as I only ran one benchmark, and that has no indication of real-life performance. If I don't notice anything drastic in the next few days, I won't post anything else here, otherwise I will keep you posted.
-Drew
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I ran geekbench yesterday and did not see any real difference in singlecore or multicore performance (both +- about 5 points difference to last firmware).
Auto-brightness works much better now. Also it looks like "GPS icon staying forever" bug is gone for me.
Smart lock option is empty in my sony Xperia xz1? What should I do?
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I was able to find the answer here: Yes, I would continue to receive OTA updates for the currently installed firmware.
Original question:
Having purchased the XZ1C in the USA, if I were to flash the ...12.75 Customised DE (for instance), would I no longer receive subsequent OTA updates? Thanks.
Hello
Update installed this evening (French time).
Good news, the update file is only 112Mo to download OTA.
some new functionalities:
contact shortcuts have a small contact icon
URL shorcut looks like a Windows shorcut, with a small black Arrow at the bottom.
I have to test more now.
Vijay2031 said:
Smart lock option is empty in my sony Xperia xz1? What should I do?
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Disable Smart Lock (Google) in Trust agents, reboot, enable again. Should make Smart Lock available again, but it may (probably will) go blank again.
PeppeBove said:
Someone also say:
Now there's option to hide apps button and use swipe up to access apps drawer
Fix gps symbol issue (but someone else say not!)
New Aspect menu in the Settings (more options), new icons for the apps shortcuts
update of the Support app to version 3.6.12 that solved the issue with "information unavailable" being now the correct information displayed
fixed adabtive brightness issue and its works well now!
(all by: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...e-v-47-1-A-12-75-add-to-my-phone/td-p/1299379 )
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Someone just say "Adoptable storage" or ability to move to SD card and it will be okay for me to never update my phone again!
On reboot, persistent GPS icon will not appear until certain applications make use of GPS-based location services (don't know which ones at this point). If the persistent GPS icon does appear, you cannot get rid of it until you reboot. I understand Sony is working on a fix.
PeppeBove said:
This update includes the 1 February 2018 security patches, So, it should fix Meltdown and Spectre CPU vulnerabilities.
For other news... Stay tuned
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The Kernel hasn't been updated in this release at all.
With this new firmware, I'm havin a weird problem.
Every time I reboot, the stock Sony weather widget needs to set location, EVERYTIME.
Is it just me...?
FWIW, No problems with Sony weather app setting location on my phone.
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No problems with the weather app here
Thanks!
BetaLyte said:
Disable Smart Lock (Google) in Trust agents, reboot, enable again. Should make Smart Lock available again, but it may (probably will) go blank again.
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Great! It worked for me. Thanks!
I wanted to try a different firmware, because of this bug...
Anyone else having problems with the stock clock app? It force closes when I try to open it (only on this firmware). The lockscreen clock and upper right corner of the status bar are unaffected - it's just the app that includes the alarm, timer, stopwatch, etc. I've worked around it by just using Timely for my alarm and stopwatch needs, but it would be nice to have the stock clock working.
No problem for me.
I just got the XZ1 (new from eBay), it had 47.1.A.2.313, I've updated to 47.1.A.12.34, looks good so far, and, this is Android 8.0.0.
I know there is at least one more update, perhaps the 47.1.A.12.75 mentioned in this thread. Is that Android 9.0.0?
I'll update to that, but not now, I'm using my phone. Is there any big change to the latest version?
This is my first Sony phone, since I used a Sony-Ericsson a long time ago.

General GrapheneOS is available for the Pixel6/6Pro

GrapheneOS​The private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit open source project.
website : https://grapheneos.org/
WebUSB-based Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/web
CMD Line Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
Releases : https://grapheneos.org/releases#raven-stable
This is listed as "Experimental"...
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
Android-Desire said:
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
Good to hear about... will be watching! cheers
I basically bought my P6P for this, so I'm extremely happy development is moving forward! Really hoping that, when a stable version is out, it will be possible to use the phone "normally" with it. Keep it up, Graphene team!
I'm with @Alex-Absolute I purchased my P6 just for GrapheneOS support, coming from a string of OnePlus devices. Though I am going to wait until it's listed as stable to switch, I'm excited they have a working build going!
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
roirraW edor ehT said:
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!
Alekos said:
yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
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I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
Alex-Absolute said:
Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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You're welcome, I'm using the free version - it's been around for a very long time on Windows, and I'm using the Android app which appears to more or less sync with the Windows version through Dropbox, if you have or create an account with Dropbox. It doesn't work perfectly for me, but I at least get notifications on my phone about the same changes in websites that the Windows program lets me know about - so I at least know that I should get on the computer and look to see what's new.
Sorry to anyone for the OT - I have lots of Android-related sites set to give me notifications of changes through this program.
The non-free version is a little pricey for my needs.
RetroTech07 said:
Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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I will post some screens later this evening...
I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
AndroidAddict420 said:
I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
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I agree. I've been using it off and on for 18 months on different pixels. but just good to be cautious, as always...
GrapheneOS just tweeted a few hours ago, the next release will be Stable for the 6 series (most likely this week)
Alekos said:
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page
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What I read about that is that its not experimental in the "unstable" sense, its that they haven't fully implemented the security enhancements.
Flippy125 said:
I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
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Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
The.Jericho.Initiative said:
Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
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Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
Flippy125 said:
Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
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Despite the hassle and increased expense, perhaps one of those Carplay AI boxes like Apple Pi might be the necessary workaround?
I'm very interested in this OS, but I too rely on carplay/auto as a general rule while driving. If I have to outsource my maps and music to an external box in order to have more comprehensive device security, that might just be the way it has to be.
Flippy125 said:
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
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Thank you for reporting. As curious as I am about this OS, this rules this out for me too. Been using AA for almost four years now and I'm hooked.
I want privacy, but I cannot live without syncing all my stuff together. Is this OS for me?

General XDA article: Google reportedly working on tap-to-transfer feature for media in Android 13

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-tap-to-transfer/
January 10, 2022 3:59pm Corbin Davenport
Google reportedly working on tap-to-transfer feature for media in Android 13​Android 12L hasn’t been officially released yet, but that isn’t stopping Google from working on the next major release, Android 13 (which is internally codenamed “Tiramisu”). We’ve already covered some of the features currently in the works for Android 13, but now details are public about another possible change — a “tap to transfer” feature for media playback.
Android Police has shared a supposed Google UI demo mockup for a new feature in Android 13, labelled as a “Media TTT” workflow — the “TTT” part is for “tap to transfer.” The screenshots show off a small message at the top of the display, which reads “Move closer to play on DEMO” in one image, and “Playing on DEMO” on the other. The latter popup also has an Undo button, presumably in case you accidentally walk close to a speaker and don’t want your music to start playing on it.
There aren’t any other details available besides what you see in the above screenshots. The functionality might work similarly to the ‘Hand off audio’ feature on Apple’s HomePod smart speakers, which allows you to hold an iPhone or iPod Touch close to a HomePod to set the speaker as the output. That feature uses a combination of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, but it’s not clear what mechanism Google will use if this functionality actually makes it into Android 13. Google could add this to the Chromecast functionality in Android, or bring it to standard Bluetooth wireless audio, or both. It’s unclear what technology this feature will use to share files.
Assuming a similar schedule as previous years, Android 13 will likely start rolling out in the fall of this year, with developer previews and beta releases in the coming months. Android 12L is supposed to arrive sometime before the end of Q1 2022, which can be anytime from now until March 31. Android 12 is still slowly rolling out to phones and tablets — Sony just started updating its devices, for example.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-tap-to-transfer/
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The wording is awkward. Gives the impression of something similar to Bluetooth file transfer. I suppose it could be some kind of selective playback over Bluetooth (as opposed to routing *all* audio over Bluetooth), but since google is really into reinventing the wheel and making things only compatible with their own crap, its probably just (chrome)cast.
Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
RetroTech07 said:
Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.
RetroTech07 said:
Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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Software is perfect for me...
roirraW edor ehT said:
It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.
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I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
P6P said:
Software is perfect for me...
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It's been fine for me but I wouldn't say perfect. I've had some random reboots / glitches appear, and battery drain issues I can't explain.
Le Googs be like, 12 is a hot mess! Time to focus on 13 instead!
RetroTech07 said:
I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
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The radio issues are probably the responsibility of Samdung to deal with. I doubt that ANYONE at google is working on that at any depth greater than testing the updates received from samduck.
But even if google was doing actual work on the radio, do you really think that the same people have the knowledge and skills to work on radio firmware as those who work on UI or those who work on things like this feature? So you would do what? Lay off the UI and new features workers while waiting for the radio firmware people to fix their glitches?
Yup this is confusing because Google needs to fix stable 12 first but then they still developing 12L and now 13 lol I know they have different teams but I wonder if they will just merged 12L to 13 or just leave 12L for fold / flip devices.

General Android 12 update rolling out to Xperia 10 III (62.1.A.0.533)

Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
Has not been arrived yet on my device (EEA, germany). Any experiences with Android 12 on 10 III so far?
code010101 said:
Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
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Yes, CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.1.A.0.533 (Android 12) was released ( https://xpericheck.com/XQ-BT52 ) 4 days ago, but according to the phone update check and Xperia Companion, no software update is available. Phone is using stock firmware, WiFi/4G is available and I have made several restarts. However when CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.0.A.9.11 (Android 11 update) was released month ago, I got it right away, at the same release day.
Based Reddit, a lot users are facing same problem. Some say that software repair using the Xperia Companion pushes update to phone. But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
ksuuk said:
But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
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After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
liwetlt said:
After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
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it is folklore, no such need at all.
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
mangobanana said:
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
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Post some screenshots of Android 12 on your Xperia, please.
Do you have separate toggles for wifi and mobile internet?
@Elberens, the same question for you too )
Hi guys, please keep us informed on how Android 12 behaves on the Xperia 10 III.
Hope that the battery drain reported by Elberens is just an isolated case, did you realized what is causing the drain? The app Better Battery Stats can help in detecting the cause of an abnormal power consumption:
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
forum.xda-developers.com
I got the update notification yesterday and installed last night. So far I'm not having any technical or performance issues. All seems to be working. Still, I find the new UI a big step backwards in comparison to Android 11. Everything is so much bigger (menus, quick settings) using lots of dead space.
There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now...
The quick settings toggles are way bigger. You get only 4 in two lines when sliding down (or 8 if you slide with two fingers or twice). Which means that you will be needing an extra step for some actions.
I'm missing the functionality where on Android 11 I could use Google pay right away when holding the power button. Now there is a toggle in the quick settings instead (again extra step to use). Instead there is just a restart, shutdown and emergency menu if you hold the power button.
I don't get the new features of android 12 or it just doesn't seem to make a difference for my uses. The new bigger quick settings are annoying for me and if I had known before, I wouldn't have updated. If there was an easy way to roll back to 11 I would happily do it. But I guess I can't do that without flashing an older firmware on the phone. Maybe a future update would allow to make the quick menus a bit smaller?
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There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now..
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I've read somewhere that after factory reset the separate toggles for wifi and mobile data internet would show up.
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Sony's Android 12 update has separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Data, but only if you factory reset
The Android 12 update for the Sony Xperia 1 III and Xperia 5 III ships with separate toggles for Wi-Fi and mobile data.
www.xda-developers.com
another way:
[....] if you want to get back a dedicated button to toggle your Wi-Fi, Mishaal Rahman shared a command on Twitter that you can execute via adb to get it back.
adb shell settings put secure sysui_qs_tiles "$(settings get secure sysui_qs_tiles),wifi"
Right this morning I got the message of a System Update from Sony (I live in Italy).
I think I'll wait some days before update, would be like to read more feedbacks on how the device behaves under Android 12, in particular concerning the battery draining, I quite happy with my Xperia 10 III that overnight (9pm to 8am) drains just a ridiculous 3%.
Elberens said:
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
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1) Recheck again app -s permissions, disable or uninstall unwanted ones, disable location wifi/bluetooth scan and wait for few days until the battery is calibrated and user habits/trends are known for the operating system.
Also You may try enable system cached apps under developer options -
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/r7tdta
2) It can't be changed, and you have to get used to it and hope that some update will fix/change it.
3) This is something new.
4) Have You tried XPERI+ for remap - https://github.com/ivaniskandar/shouko
You must agree this is a rather ingenious way of getting people to update their systems regularly. You're not told beforehand what the update changes, and only afterwards do you notice that the update was a downgrade in every single aspect. You want to swear that you'll never install a system update ever again, yet you know that you will have to do just that in the hopes that eventually some update will fix what the previous ones broke.
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
matmutant said:
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
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On the stock Android 11 you can make the UI big from Settings > Display > Display size. This is in addition to and separate from Settings > Display > Font size. So I still think the forced size in Android 12 was not necessary...
I updated my device on Saturday, everything went OK. I'm rather satisfied with the new UI, display size and font size can be adjusted as in Android 11, some aspects are nice, some others less, on the other hand it's impossible to create a UI that is good for everybody. There are a lot of launchers and ways to customize the appearance of a smartphone, so this is not a problem in my view. Apart from the graphical aspect, Android 12 brings new interesting features and I think this is more important.
I appreciate that Sony kept the media volume steps equal to 30, which is finer enough for listening music. At the moment, the power usage seems to be as before, my device drained only 3% overnight (9pm to 8am) as with android 11, and that's great.
The smartphone seems responsive and fluid, I didn't explored all the functionalities yet, but I would say that this update is OK.
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
Other than that and the combined internet toggle, this update is alright.
The overall app managing should be more optimized in Android 12, however you could try the above mentioned option in the Developer settings (suspend execution of cached app).
There are just a couple of commands to be sent via ADB the to restore separate wifi/mobile toggles, I'm waiting to see how is to deal with the combined internet one.
Comakip said:
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
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Noticed this too. For example, if I use "Simple Gallery Pro" from F-Droid to browse through some videos and I open a video with Kodi, then after I'm done watching the video and return to the Simple Gallery app, it will often reload, forcing me to navigate the folder structure once again.
I didn't have this issue with Android 11 - returning to the gallery app would bring me back to where I left when Kodi was launched. I'll try changing that setting mentioned above by @code010101 to see if it helps.

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