So basically I am running eragon 6.7 (dirty flash from 6.6~, was a clean install before that) and I have just started to have an issue which I am trying to trouble shoot!
So I upgraded my phone to this version AND dropped it on concrete on the same day so unsure as to what one caused the issue...... but basically since these events my phone won't charge over a certain point (on 3 different chargers/plugs/USB ports). Initially it wouldn't go over 42% and then I wiped the cache and squeezed the battery shield and magically (or coincidentally) it started to charge up to 92% but no higher. With normal use today I went from 92% down to 15 in under 9 hours!!!!!!
Looking at my battery stats it is showing as fine, normal voltage and no issues.
ALSO when browsing the web I noticed that the top of the phone (above the battery, by the camera and top metal edge/screen gets REALLY hot - this doesn't seem to happen when I have bluetooth, music, GPS and maps all open at once though.
So my symptoms are slow charge that won't go to 100%, QUICK depletion, HOT phone when browsing the web/screen on (above the battery) but my battery stats read all OK. Could the battery be at fault here still or is it likely to be another piece of HW damaged in the fall or could it be a flash/eragon related issue (doubt it).
I have stripped the phone down and removed the battery and can see that the bottom edge/underside of the battery's wrapper is 'crinkled' and malleable to the touch (but this may just be the wrapper), also the battery's bottom ~1cm is everso slightly curved upwards. Can anyone confirm if this is normal please? and if the battery wrapper is normally 'skin tight' against it or is some movement along the bottom edge normal?
I would really appreciate any help as I am currently sitting with a dismantled phone in-case I get any suggestions!
Thanks and apologies for the lengthy first post.
I would bet that it's certainly the fall that has caused these issues as the ROM has not changed that much, you can always go back to older ROM if you want to know for sure! I have not opened my phone yet so can't answer your other questions but perhaps someone else might be able to confirm this for you soon. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply, that's what I am thinking!
Update - I upgraded (dirty flash) to eragon 7 and issue still persists, I don't know if it's worth ordering/waiting for a battery only to find that it's another component that's gone or to just scrap it and get a new phone (oneplus 2 most probably)
Well, for the price and with the Eragon ROM the p8000 is very good value. The oneplus2 is a lot more expensive so you would hope that it's worth the extra money
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Well, for the price and with the Eragon ROM the p8000 is very good value. The oneplus2 is a lot more expensive so you would hope that it's worth the extra money
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true! I think I may need to bite the bullet and get a new p8000
kaosnw said:
true! I think I may need to bite the bullet and get a new p8000
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So I upgraded to Eragon 7.0 and now the phone is charging to 100% but still draining very quickly!
Strange.... could this be linked to the Rom afterall?
Can you flash a stock Rom and see how that goes?
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Can you flash a stock Rom and see how that goes?
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That was going to be my next try but before I did that I done a backup with Titanium, full wipe, clean install of 7.0 and a restore and I think this may have actually resolved my issue!!!!! the phone is currently saying 68% with 13 hours approx left!
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That was going to be my next try but before I did that I done a backup with Titanium, full wipe, clean install of 7.0 and a restore and I think this may have actually resolved my issue!!!!! the phone is currently saying 68% with 13 hours approx left!
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Nice! Wonder what is going on with your phone?!
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Nice! Wonder what is going on with your phone?!
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God knows! I'm just glad it seems to be resolved now... although the phone is still getting hot towords the top when doing anything like browsing/navigation etc.
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Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
No way returning to the old version without unlocking/rooting it (with s-off its easy to return to 100% stock though)
But i would back up what you need and perform a factory reset. That is the first thing you can try to resolve the issue.
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Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
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Have you tried any of the standard things like wiping cache/factory reset?
You could install a battery monitor to see if there are any clues as to whats using up the battery:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
yes good point a factory reset would be the clear choice, will do that in a mo and see if that helps
Cheers
Daz
dazzler22 said:
yes good point a factory reset would be the clear choice, will do that in a mo and see if that helps
Cheers
Daz
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Just make sure any data you want is backed up first. You wont lose anything on your external sd card unless you chose to erase it, but you will lose your apps/accounts/settings. I would expect this should clear out anything causing issues, good luck.
I have exactly the same battery drain and the phone is always hot now so its doing something..
Let me know how the factory reset goes..
How did the reset go? I installed the update on Friday night and my phone has been running hot since then.
Just to update on this (sorry for the slow response!) finally managed to get round to a reset and that has solved the issue, battery life is now back up,
the battery monitor before the reset was just saying that the kernal was using most power.... never found out the cause though!
Cheers
Daz
dazzler22 said:
Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
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Are you still on stock EE rom mate?? i need a huge favour
dazzler22 said:
Just to update on this (sorry for the slow response!) finally managed to get round to a reset and that has solved the issue, battery life is now back up,
the battery monitor before the reset was just saying that the kernal was using most power.... never found out the cause though!
Cheers
Daz
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I have the same problem with 4.4.3.
How you have solved the issue?
Battery monitor apps, like my favorite Gsam, are pretty useless without root... To see the wakelocks.
Just an FYI. ?
Full reset resolved it for me.
Cheers
Daz
Hi guys
Recently I converted my HTC One M8 to Google Play Edition, after achieving S-Off. I really liked it, but there was one major issue every time my battery would die, after switching the phone back on, some of the apps (mainly stock) and settings would reset to default. Also battery indication became really bad, most of the time it dies indicating 20-25%. So after trying factory resets couple of times without any improvement, I decided to go back to stock Sense. I did it successfully, updated to marshmallow... but the issue with app and settings reset after battery dies still persist, as well as poor battery indication. Just wanted to ask if any of you had similar issue? is there any way to fix it? would be good to know, cause I really love this phone, especially since they keep updating it, would be a shame to sell it as faulty and get some ****ty mid-ranger as I don't have enough money for a flagship beast atm. Thank you in advance, guys.
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Hi guys
Recently I converted my HTC One M8 to Google Play Edition, after achieving S-Off. I really liked it, but there was one major issue every time my battery would die, after switching the phone back on, some of the apps (mainly stock) and settings would reset to default. Also battery indication became really bad, most of the time it dies indicating 20-25%. So after trying factory resets couple of times without any improvement, I decided to go back to stock Sense. I did it successfully, updated to marshmallow... but the issue with app and settings reset after battery dies still persist, as well as poor battery indication. Just wanted to ask if any of you had similar issue? is there any way to fix it? would be good to know, cause I really love this phone, especially since they keep updating it, would be a shame to sell it as faulty and get some ****ty mid-ranger as I don't have enough money for a flagship beast atm. Thank you in advance, guys.
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Hey there
Have you tried doing a full cache clear / wipe / stock RUU installation? This sounds like the battery is no longer holding charge, and is actually precisely what my old Blackberry did once the battery was in its dying throes. Hopefully this is not the case with yours, and simply some funky issue lurking in the depths of your device
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Hey there
Have you tried doing a full cache clear / wipe / stock RUU installation? This sounds like the battery is no longer holding charge, and is actually precisely what my old Blackberry did once the battery was in its dying throes. Hopefully this is not the case with yours, and simply some funky issue lurking in the depths of your device
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yes, I did that before, I don't think I would be able to go back to stock Sense without doing so. But thanks for the tip anyway
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yes, I did that before, I don't think I would be able to go back to stock Sense without doing so. But thanks for the tip anyway
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Figured, thought it might be one of those "oh duh" moments
Good luck man, I have no clue what the issue could be if it is software related at this point
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yes, I did that before, I don't think I would be able to go back to stock Sense without doing so. But thanks for the tip anyway
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Sorry for the double post-- It looks like, on some searching on my own, that the batterystats files can have something to do with your phone displaying the wrong % / being async with actual battery life. There are multiple ways to rebuild / wipe this file, though I cannot walk you through it currently as I haven't had to do it myself yet. Give this a look, maybe it'll help
Anonaru said:
Sorry for the double post-- It looks like, on some searching on my own, that the batterystats files can have something to do with your phone displaying the wrong % / being async with actual battery life. There are multiple ways to rebuild / wipe this file, though I cannot walk you through it currently as I haven't had to do it myself yet. Give this a look, maybe it'll help
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thanks, man. I tried to re-calibrate my battery by discharging and recharging to 100% without switching it on, repeated couple of times, no help. but i can live with faulty battery indication, the real problem is setting up all those apps and settings that reset every time battery dies... it's very uncomfortable, I even stopped setting stuff up, just keep it on default for now....
Hello,
The battery life of my Z1 compact is very low. This only started the last month or so.
Are there things I can do to improve it?
I have been thinking of putting another rom on it, but not used to this anymore. A few years ago I did a lot (with my HTC Hero), but at the moment I don't have time to do this regularly (read: I was single on those days ). I can remember that there was an option in the recovery to whipe the battery stats, so maybe this can help me.
Then, is there a light yet stable rom out there?
Maybe you can give me also some guides on how to start with this: rooting, replacing recovery image and flashing a custom Rom.
Anyways thanks for your help.
Sorry if I made some mistakes, English is not my native language.
Bart.
This additional info can maybe useful:
Currently I am on Android 5.1.1 Build 14.6.A.0.368 ...
Most people have noticed that battery life on LP is generally a little worse than on KK, but usually stock rom battery life is pretty good, so if it's just getting worse suddenly, you might want to try an update, (.368 is not the newest fw), or maybe some changes you made are draIning the battery, or maybe the battery is old and needs to be replaced. Most custom roms are fine as far as battery drain goes, but most are not better than stock, so probably not a solution to the issue. Have you been using any battery - saving options, (stamina, Greenify, etc.)?
Are you using Pocket (readitlater)?
The new version of the app sucks alot of battery... =(
l3art1 said:
Hello,
The battery life of my Z1 compact is very low. This only started the last month or so.
Are there things I can do to improve it?
I have been thinking of putting another rom on it, but not used to this anymore. A few years ago I did a lot (with my HTC Hero), but at the moment I don't have time to do this regularly (read: I was single on those days ). I can remember that there was an option in the recovery to whipe the battery stats, so maybe this can help me.
Then, is there a light yet stable rom out there?
Maybe you can give me also some guides on how to start with this: rooting, replacing recovery image and flashing a custom Rom.
Anyways thanks for your help.
Sorry if I made some mistakes, English is not my native language.
Bart.
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Basically, you need to replace the battery.
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Most people have noticed that battery life on LP is generally a little worse than on KK, but usually stock rom battery life is pretty good, so if it's just getting worse suddenly, you might want to try an update, (.368 is not the newest fw),
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I have seen that there's a newer update (14.6.A.1.236). The problem with this is, when I try the update, the phone says there's no update for the phone. Is there a way to force the update?
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Basically, you need to replace the battery.
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I have been looking and found some local repair center, which can do it.
While it is still under waranty, I don't want to send it to Sony, as I expect to lose the phone for more than 3 weeks???
Anyways, big thanks for all your replies!
l3art1 said:
I have been looking and found some local repair center, which can do it.
While it is still under waranty, I don't want to send it to Sony, as I expect to lose the phone for more than 3 weeks???
Anyways, big thanks for all your replies!
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I found it pretty easy to replace the battery myself, but that will void the warranty so you might not want to do that if there is still significant time left to run on the warranty.
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I found it pretty easy to replace the battery myself, but that will void the warranty so you might not want to do that if there is still significant time left to run on the warranty.
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Is there some good description on how to do it yourself? Because I have no clue on how to even start with it?
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Is there some good description on how to do it yourself? Because I have no clue on how to even start with it?
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I'm pretty sure there are instructions in that thread, but otherwise there are various videos such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXemmPyIzUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...l/best-stable-rom-battery-life-daily-t3367431
This is how i get most juice out of this xperia. 2 years old battery shouldn't have degraded more than 10%
I should have posted this. I have found some useful info about changing the battery (mainly youtube), and I already ordered a new battery and adhesive for the back cover.
Another question I posted earlier: is there a way to force update to version .1.236
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I should have posted this. I have found some useful info about changing the battery (mainly youtube), and I already ordered a new battery and adhesive for the back cover.
Another question I posted earlier: is there a way to force update to version .1.236
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If BL is locked, ota should work. You can always use Flashtool/ Xperifirm...
Hey there,
I got my HTC 10 two weeks ago and it's already s-off, unlocked, rooted, twrp and elemental-x kernel installed, and running some xposed modules (greenify, gravity box). I re-branded it from CID H3G to WWE, unfortunately without backing up the stock setup.
From the beginning I've had some random soft reboots which I think are related to the battery's temperature when charging, and the phone is being used for browsing or streaming. The battery reaches up to 44C and the phone feels very warm, both front and back side. The soft reboot itself is strange too, it takes a lot of time until the pin code is asked and after that there's a notification saying that the process system is not responding but it comes up eventually. This is also happening when rebooting manually, both soft and full reboots.
I would like to return it back to stock so I can ask for an RMA, do you think this is the way to go? I'll only be able to go back to the WWE stock, at least I think I can. Do I need to go back to s-on and locked to return it? Your help is highly appreciated! :good:
Thanks in advance!
Greetings from Vienna
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
Maby something for you?
And se if the problem is still there.
Thanks I will give it a try, although I couldn't find the RUU for my region (Austria) and CID H3G (I think it is .771). I'll take the WWE instead and we'll see how far it will take me
greetings from Vienna
hojnol said:
Hey there,
I got my HTC 10 two weeks ago and it's already s-off, unlocked, rooted, twrp and elemental-x kernel installed, and running some xposed modules (greenify, gravity box). I re-branded it from CID H3G to WWE, unfortunately without backing up the stock setup.
From the beginning I've had some random soft reboots which I think are related to the battery's temperature when charging, and the phone is being used for browsing or streaming. The battery reaches up to 44C and the phone feels very warm, both front and back side. The soft reboot itself is strange too, it takes a lot of time until the pin code is asked and after that there's a notification saying that the process system is not responding but it comes up eventually. This is also happening when rebooting manually, both soft and full reboots.
I would like to return it back to stock so I can ask for an RMA, do you think this is the way to go? I'll only be able to go back to the WWE stock, at least I think I can. Do I need to go back to s-on and locked to return it? Your help is highly appreciated! :good:
Thanks in advance!
Greetings from Vienna
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Try to lighten the load on the phone, clean install a rom.. Stock kernel. Leedroid would be perfect. Install only the apps you need from fresh and see if you have the same issues. Chances are if it's overheating it could just be overloaded. Worse case scenario is the phone itself. Hopefully that's not the case.
dladz said:
Try to lighten the load on the phone, clean install a rom.. Stock kernel. Leedroid would be perfect. Install only the apps you need from fresh and see if you have the same issues. Chances are if it's overheating it could just be overloaded. Worse case scenario is the phone itself. Hopefully that's not the case.
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It seems that did the trick; I've installed the ICE ROM couple of days ago (LeeDroid will be next in case something goes wrong again) and haven't had any random reboots ever since. I've stopped using the phone when charging and now the temperature does not exceed 41C degrees.
The phone has also stopped stalling after manual reboots, looks pretty good so far!
Thanks a bunch! Have a nice Sunday and greetings from Vienna
dladz said:
Try to lighten the load on the phone, clean install a rom.. Stock kernel. Leedroid would be perfect. Install only the apps you need from fresh and see if you have the same issues. Chances are if it's overheating it could just be overloaded. Worse case scenario is the phone itself. Hopefully that's not the case.
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Screen on and especially battery charging will heat the phone more than running apps. The case you're using will immensely affect this--aluminum dissipates heat; TPU is a thermal insulator.
CPUs throttle, as does charging when too hot.
44C is a proper temp for a loaded 810/820. If your CPU sustains this temp without down-clocking, it's able to shed heat properly. If you are under constant heavy load, you would notice battery drain before temps I would think.
A hardware issue (heat, power) won't perform a soft reboot, it will reset the hardware, causing a full reboot.
It's likely your ROM and/or apps: bad caching, bad install, bad config. I would RUU before declaring the device defective.
hojnol said:
It seems that did the trick; I've installed the ICE ROM couple of days ago (LeeDroid will be next in case something goes wrong again) and haven't had any random reboots ever since. I've stopped using the phone when charging and now the temperature does not exceed 41C degrees.
The phone has also stopped stalling after manual reboots, looks pretty good so far!
Thanks a bunch! Have a nice Sunday and greetings from Vienna
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No worries mate, it's an age old problem with android. Sometimes you just need a fresh start.
Hi, i bought one moto z play, almost 2 months ago, and the battery was excellent, you can see on airplane mode, idle, not using it, the phone lates more than 17 days, and had 23% of juice left, after that, i boight another one, both are used, but this one, only last 2 days on the same conditions, airplane mode, even safe mode, not using at all, just 2 days, drains like 2% per hour without even touching it at all, what can i do?
What does it matter what happens when you never use it? And why buy a second phone if you already have one that lasts great?
Just sell the second and start using it like normal people. Nobody can tell you why that difference is and it doesn't matter. They have to last under normal conditions, but what you are doing is pretty much waste of battery. Letting it lie around in airplane mode for days is simply stupid. Then you could just turn it off
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What does it matter what happens when you never use it? And why buy a second phone if you already have one that lasts great?
Just sell the second and start using it like normal people. Nobody can tell you why that difference is and it doesn't matter. They have to last under normal conditions, but what you are doing is pretty much waste of battery. Letting it lie around in airplane mode for days is simply stupid. Then you could just turn it off
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Seems like a reasonable test of baseline battery drain to me. I get less than 2% drain per hour with all my background stuff on with my MZP. My old S6 (notorious for bad battery) gets like 3% per day in airplane mode with no screen on time.
Just because his use case isn't your use case, doesn't mean what he's doing is stupid.
OP, I'd be inclined to think you have a hardware issue - you've eliminated all the normal software side stuff that typically is responsible for battery drain.
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Seems like a reasonable test of baseline battery drain to me. I get less than 2% drain per hour with all my background stuff on with my MZP. My old S6 (notorious for bad battery) gets like 3% per day in airplane mode with no screen on time.
Just because his use case isn't your use case, doesn't mean what he's doing is stupid.
OP, I'd be inclined to think you have a hardware issue - you've eliminated all the normal software side stuff that typically is responsible for battery drain.
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Exactly, it was just a test, obviusly under normal conditions the drain Is Worst, only 3 SoT and 9 hours of battery, if you compare the two phones, one drains 2% and the other 0.1% por hour, that it's not normal.
If is not hw issue, something is draining battery in background. Have you tried factory reset? Compare settings on both phones, wifi/bt scan, SIM is inside on both, sd card?
Anyway, try to make both phones exactly the same from hw and sw perspective. If you haven't already.
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Maybe put a CPU monitor app on both phones, let them both run in the same condition for the same time period, and see if the histories match? Not really sure how else to look, since you said safe mode didn't fix it.
Zeljko1234 said:
If is not hw issue, something is draining battery in background. Have you tried factory reset? Compare settings on both phones, wifi/bt scan, SIM is inside on both, sd card?
Anyway, try to make both phones exactly the same from hw and sw perspective. If you haven't already.
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the one with the problem has the december patch update, the good one, the november patch, thats the only difference on both. already tried factory reset, wipe cache, safe mode, even on safe mode, the 2% per hour draining persist.
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Maybe put a CPU monitor app on both phones, let them both run in the same condition for the same time period, and see if the histories match? Not really sure how else to look, since you said safe mode didn't fix it.
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gonna FDR both, charge them to 100% and let them dry for a couple of hours with the cpu monitor.
kmry said:
the one with the problem has the december patch update, the good one, the november patch, thats the only difference on both. already tried factory reset, wipe cache, safe mode, even on safe mode, the 2% per hour draining persist.
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You can try to upgrade good one to December patch to get the same batter life result
If there's no other difference, then looks like that is hw problem. But I'm still suspecting that you are missing something.
Zeljko1234 said:
You can try to upgrade good one to December patch to get the same batter life result
If there's no other difference, then looks like that is hw problem. But I'm still suspecting that you are missing something.
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good joke, but im not gonna take that risk; cant think what i would be missing; i think ive tried everything except for a downgrade, but i read somewhere it cannot be done, the phone is on 7.1.1.
kmry said:
good joke, but im not gonna take that risk; cant think what i would be missing; i think ive tried everything except for a downgrade, but i read somewhere it cannot be done, the phone is on 7.1.1.
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Do not downgrade. It is doable but next upgrade (OTA) and you will end up with brick.
I've already asked you, both phones are with/without SIM/sd card?
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Do not downgrade. It is doable but next upgrade (OTA) and you will end up with brick.
I've already asked you, both phones are with/without SIM/sd card?
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both phones on airplane mode, without simcard, without sd card.
kmry said:
both phones on airplane mode, without simcard, without sd card.
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Well, if both phones are the same from hw and sw perspective (except update on "bad one") then most probably cause is hw or update.
Do not try to downgrade, 8.0 is under SOAK (quite long already, but still has issues) and you may try it when is ready (don't flash leaked SOAK, please).
As said above, most likely is hw issue. Sorry for that.
camera app left running?
dandrumheller said:
Seems like a reasonable test of baseline battery drain to me. I get less than 2% drain per hour with all my background stuff on with my MZP. My old S6 (notorious for bad battery) gets like 3% per day in airplane mode with no screen on time.
Just because his use case isn't your use case, doesn't mean what he's doing is stupid.
OP, I'd be inclined to think you have a hardware issue - you've eliminated all the normal software side stuff that typically is responsible for battery drain.
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KrisM22 said:
camera app left running?
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All apps were closed.
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All apps were closed.
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Your second pic says it's running. Sorry if I misinterpret.