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[Q] help Root SCH-i535PP on 4.4.2

Ive been searching night and day trying to find a way to root my galaxy S3 (SCH-i535) running 4.4.2 . Ive come up empty handed and as may know TOWEL ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON THIS BUILD. The most progress I have made is unlocking developer options with 7-tap doctrine. (haha) So this is pretty much a "calling all car" for those out there who are well versed in the art of rooting and all things $ sudo.
Info on safely reverting to an android OS that is rootable would also be useful.
l or any knowledge about the SCH-I535PP on 4.4.3 (pre paid verizon Galaxy S3) and exploits discovers .
Im lightly knowledgeable in Terminal, soooooo. If any one knows some work arounds or anything that would at least make me smile please feel free to write.
Tell me me what you all know and restore my faith in the power of the internet community.
much love,
-Lifehertz

ive also been looking
ive also been looking to root my phone also. all ive been able to dig up is possible roms that might be flashable with this model. and help would be greatly appreciated!

I knew I wasnt alone.
For some reason i have faith that someone is working on getting this phone rootable.
Until then lets keep the conversation going.
Do you have any links to these rims. Also, what are your thoughts?

I want root too because this phone is not compatible with samsung gear apps for my neo...very heartbreaking. ..wanted to put more apps on my watch but can't because this verizon galaxy s3 prepaid is not updated like all the other ones.....

Hey guys, I'm just posting to join in the misery. I feel like a hero for getting past the activation setup wizard! I have spent many hours researching how to root this stupid phone, and at this point its my white whale. There will be a way eventually, and this thread can be our anchor when that day comes. If anyone has a problem with the setup wizard, let me know.

The white whale under my friend.
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
Because if it has been a short amount of time then the true developers and root wizards
Probably haven't had much need or want to work on a root for this phone.
I am noticing though after walmart dropped the price of the phone severely
And christmas came around. There are a Lot of new SCH-I535PP users. So maybe if we keep asking around and raising awareness about this build needing root, then a root genie will hear the cries of the community and get to work granting us our wish.
Verizon really locked this up with the recent update. This phone is two years old and there are many stronger phones coming out the root gods are focusing on blessing. But, its not hard to see that the SCH-I535PP is fantastic tool for its price point.
Please, anyone who reads this and is well versed in rooting phones, please do the SCH-I535PP community a solid and help us step out from being the prison bars of 4.4.2.
Thank you for letting me ramble. I hope it helped keep the spirit alive. Haha

Disclaimer: I'm an android noob, and everything in this post could be wrong. I'm just trying.
lifehertz said:
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
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I know that version of kitkat was released on June 2nd, 2014, if that helps.
I don't understand whether ALL sch-i535 after that date are blocked from rooting, or ONLY the sch-i535pp (prepaid) version. I've read conflicting things because the circumstances change over time, but the threads on forums stay the same. What was true 5 months ago might not be true anymore.
I believe (could be wrong) that every single phone that was updated after June 2nd is completely SOL and blocked from being rooted. I think Towelroot was the last thing that worked for anybody, and even that method is lost to ANYTHING with a Kernel date of June 3rd or later. Mine is July 22nd. I believe the truth is that the vast majority of people that are rooted are just not updating to KitKat because they know it will un-root them and the party is over. I think that anyone with a phone that is old but updated to kitkat can reset to factory and get back to JellyBean or whatever version they originally had that can be rooted. So that leaves a small, but growing population that just simply can't root because we have the newest galaxy S3s with late kernel dates off the shelf . It's just getting harder and harder to find exploits. They guy who wrote towelroot works for google now, finding/fixing exploits that he once used to hack phones.
Either the population will catch up with us 'un-rootables' or they will leave us behind as bigger and better things come along. The Galaxy S3 is (kind of) yesterday's problem. I'm just sayin.....

I truly hate to be the burden of bad news but I can't say I'm surprised by verizon finally locking down the S3. The contract version was rumored to have been locked down with a version past the last official OTA of 4.4.2 but it seems that the pp version was moved to 4.4.3 which in all seriousness was then locked down by big red
Going forward I'd stay away from verizon as far as phones go, the short version of this is the fact that they will try anything possible to lock down every android phone they can
My S3 running BlissStalk

Damn it. The mutiny. The injustice!
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?

lifehertz said:
Any suggestions?
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Don't bother with the Aquos Crystal. It's such a great phone for the price, but it hasn't been rooted yet. I have one, and I enjoy it for the stock.

lifehertz said:
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Sadly I don't off hand no, I moved over to straight talk and thankfully can get almost any phone I'd like. I'm currently debating on a Nexus 5
My S3 running BlissStalk

I Have An Idea!!!!!!!!
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.

sezamer66 said:
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5

ShapesBlue said:
If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
Sent from my SCH-I535PP

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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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On the S3 I've been around here and seen many people do just that. While it may be an option on other devices even the VZW S5 it will not work on the S3
Sent from my Nexus 5

I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol

sezamer66 said:
I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5

ShapesBlue said:
While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.

sezamer66 said:
And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5

ShapesBlue said:
I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5
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I want to root this phone too. The kingroot 4.1 do not work phone just reboot.

Can anyone confirm this root method works on US Sprint Note 7?

Hey everyone. I just got my Note 7! My old phone is rooted and I'd like to do that to my new Note. From my understanding, only non-US phones with EXYNOS chipsets can be boot-unlocked/rooted, Qualcomm WONT WORK from what Ive read. So does this method here work? http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/08/samsung-note-7-sprint-n930p-marshmallow-firmware.html The model numbers are the SAME as mine.

I think you should try it and let us know. I'm sure as hell not going to be the guinea pig.

koolcat7 said:
Hey everyone. I just got my Note 7! My old phone is rooted and I'd like to do that to my new Note. From my understanding, only non-US phones with EXYNOS chipsets can be boot-unlocked/rooted, Qualcomm WONT WORK from what Ive read. So does this method here work? http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/08/samsung-note-7-sprint-n930p-marshmallow-firmware.html The model numbers are the SAME as mine.
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I don't trust that article any more than a flashing pop up that claims I'm the winner of a million dollar give away. Don't do it. If it's legit, it'll make its way to XDA. Until it's on XDA, don't even think about it.

tgtoys said:
I don't trust that article any more than a flashing pop up that claims I'm the winner of a million dollar give away. Don't do it. If it's legit, it'll make its way to XDA. Until it's on XDA, don't even think about it.
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I found this! Going to try here in a bit, hopefully succeed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr.../root-super-leaky-bros-sprint-galaxy-t3447202

Before you jump into rooting your phone, I want to make sure that you understand some of the consequences. The biggest of these for me is tripping Knox and not being able to use Samsung Pay.
EDIT: It says that it doesn't trip Knox. Without a custom recovery it isn't worth it to me, but things are moving in the right direction.

chazglenn3 said:
Before you jump into rooting your phone, I want to make sure that you understand some of the consequences. The biggest of these for me is tripping Knox and not being able to use Samsung Pay.
EDIT: It says that it doesn't trip Knox. Without a custom recovery it isn't worth it to me, but things are moving in the right direction.
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Doesn't trip Knox, STL no Android pay or Samsung pay.
I really miss custom roms (switched to a Verizon Note 5 and now Note 7) but if I can get root, Xposed, and CPU control I'll be ecstatic.

Just so you all know, I tried the Leaky Bros root and it WORKED! My Note 7 runs great and has root. Big thanks to "cruckus" and "freeza" for making this possible! Its a development stock rom build, runs very smooth. http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-note-7/how-to/root-super-leaky-bros-sprint-galaxy-t3447202

Should i root my s10+ now or wait?

Recently had the oneplus 6 and was so easy to root ..should i root this phone and if i do how do i get the latest otas installed after root?

Why would you want to root it. I always rooted my phone up to s9 plus. I think now Samsung software is polished enough that we gain no benefit by rooting the phone.

muhammadshais said:
Why would you want to root it. I always rooted my phone up to s9 plus. I think now Samsung software is polished enough that we gain no benefit by rooting the phone.
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Adaway for starters.
And a plethora of others.
Still just the tip of the iceberg.
Don't use any of the so called secure features, payment, health, et al. Never used them and never will.
AMEX FTW!
The biggest issue with the one way trip is when it comes time to sell. You can return to stock but even on a non rooted, stock device those aforementioned apps that the new owner may want won't work on a 0x1 device.

cpufrost said:
Adaway for starters.
And a plethora of others.
Still just the tip of the iceberg.
Don't use any of the so called secure features, payment, health, et al. Never used them and never will.
AMEX FTW!
The biggest issue with the one way trip is when it comes time to sell. You can return to stock but even on a non rooted, stock device those aforementioned apps that the new owner may want won't work on a 0x1 device.
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Plenty of options for ad blocking on non rooted devices now so that's not really a reason anymore.

And none of them have the convenience of AdAway. Particularly when other VPNs are required and you have first disable the vpn ad blocker. And don't get me started on AdHell. LOL

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And none of them have the convenience of AdAway. Particularly when other VPNs are required and you have first disable the vpn ad blocker. And don't get me started on AdHell. LOL
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Have to disagree. there are ways to block ads on an unrooted phone. ever tried adguard? they have vpn, proxy method etc.
You're not using nay secure payments but samsung pay is becoming one of the fastest growing payment option. You really wanna void your warranty, stop receiving OTA updates all this?
If you ask me - please don't root your s10+.. it's a powerful device where you can customize it without rooting. Yes, I do agree, you will not get 2-3 root advantages like titanium and few other customizations. But think of the pros, cons. Nowadays you can use it without rooting and with a lot of customization.

kevinireland11 said:
Recently had the oneplus 6 and was so easy to root ..should i root this phone and if i do how do i get the latest otas installed after root?
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i dare you

Every phone before S10 I had rooted, since HTC DesireHD and S10 is my first phone which will not :good:
...but you know, do what you want to do.
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If you use a third party launcher like Nova etc. I don't see the benefit in rooting that once existed. Just about all of the things mentioned can be managed without root.

Root is giving a lot of options like titanium bu/adaway/greenify/viper/freeze system apps and a LOT more.

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Have to disagree. there are ways to block ads on an unrooted phone. ever tried adguard? they have vpn, proxy method etc.
You're not using nay secure payments but samsung pay is becoming one of the fastest growing payment option. You really wanna void your warranty, stop receiving OTA updates all this?
If you ask me - please don't root your s10+.. it's a powerful device where you can customize it without rooting. Yes, I do agree, you will not get 2-3 root advantages like titanium and few other customizations. But think of the pros, cons. Nowadays you can use it without rooting and with a lot of customization.
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Adguard isn't free and it slows wifi throughput. Speedtests dropped from 600-700Mbps up/down to 150-160 last time I checked. Not a fan of that.
Next, there is no warranty out of the box on Exynos. It's buy at own risk, period. So no argument there.
And OTAs. That's kind of a joke considering it's May and the (official) security update is March 01. The unlocked versions in the USA are slow to get (official) updates.
But we're talking about just root, right?
Typically, I only unlock the bootloader to install a custom rom. No matter how good the factory OS is, they just simply cannot touch a custom rooted rom. It's better out of the box now compared to touchwiz days, yes. But still not as good.
Is it worth the hassle? To some no. It really depends on what you want to do with your spare time I suppose.

True true
muhammadshais said:
Why would you want to root it. I always rooted my phone up to s9 plus. I think now Samsung software is polished enough that we gain no benefit by rooting the phone.
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yeah man i think im gonna stick to completly stock unless some magical app comes out that requires magisk lol

XDA says Root is a Hoot which is always fun to Boot! ???

muhammadshais said:
Why would you want to root it. I always rooted my phone up to s9 plus. I think now Samsung software is polished enough that we gain no benefit by rooting the phone.
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Plenty of options for ad blocking on non rooted devices now so that's not really a reason anymore.
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And none of them have the convenience of AdAway. Particularly when other VPNs are required and you have first disable the vpn ad blocker. And don't get me started on AdHell. LOL
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Have to disagree. there are ways to block ads on an unrooted phone. ever tried adguard? they have vpn, proxy method etc.
You're not using nay secure payments but samsung pay is becoming one of the fastest growing payment option. You really wanna void your warranty, stop receiving OTA updates all this?
If you ask me - please don't root your s10+.. it's a powerful device where you can customize it without rooting. Yes, I do agree, you will not get 2-3 root advantages like titanium and few other customizations. But think of the pros, cons. Nowadays you can use it without rooting and with a lot of customization.
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Agree with all that there is minimum benefits to root nowadays. I only see using twrp to do backup as the key benefit. Anyway, this is my personal opinion. Anyone can have others.
As for ad blockers, i use "Block This". Its low battery consuming and uses VPN. Free too. But please remember to whitelist your google translate or else you cannot download offline language packages.
I tried adguard before. Its good for ad blocking but uses a bit more battery.

I haven't rooted a Samsung phone since the s8. I rooted mostly for customization and Samsung has more options than most. I use Adhell for ad blocking and between the theme app, good Lock and Nova I can make my phone sign??? Yeah. I'm good. No rooting required.
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Yeah I've found absolutely no reason to root my 10+ . adguard works just fine without root. Plenty of customization options available already. Very pleased with my experience so far.

Viper and fonts are my reasons to root. Couldn't live without Viper. Audio sounds like crap without it.

I’m very happy without root...other than Viper everything else is customized including fonts ....
iPhone X

rooted every phone till s8
now I got s10plus and I do not want to root either
Nowadays you have quite everthing (adhell and app disabler do a ggreat job). Only thing It bother me is I do not have titanium backup anymore
May I ask you why Viper is so important?

I haven't rooted since my Note 4. It turns into a black hole of fiddling with the phone for what I think is very minimal gain. Since I have less free time at this point in my life I just prefer to use my phone as it was meant to be used which is to make my life easier.
YMMV of course.

Rooting s20+ or not

How many guys have rooted their s20+?
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G9860 met Tapatalk

lol

I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.

I have the S20+ 5G D/S and like many others I've rooted every Samsung phone I've ever owned. But until a custom recovery comes along and a decent Rom and Kernel. I'll stay non rooted. Its not to bad if I'm honest.

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and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?

whatsisnametake2 said:
which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?
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US on 985F

TheNetwork said:
I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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in the UK we don't have MST with Samsung pay, so there's not much incentive to use it over Google pay, which I find more transparent in daily use.

Yeah I would have never used phone pay apps if it weren't for MST honestly, so few places here have even google or apple pay, it's basically pointless to take the time to look and see if you should pull your phone or credit card out, it was much faster and simpler to just pull your credit card out and assume no one had the NFC paystations.

here in the UK, since I started using Google pay a few years ago, I've literally never not been able to use it.

Google is a one-stop shop that liked to store everything we own... password and financial information as well... one good hack will have access to all of that data... which is why as a rule of thumb, i dont like saving my passwords that allow access to say, my bank.. its in my head.. thats it.. not stored anywhere... and google pay and the such was disabled when I rooted my s8... and going to the s20+ soon, these pay features do not interest me because I and many others here know how easy it is to hack and get into those apps. I will not use them for this reason... too much information stored in any 1 location is just asking for trouble... and what happens when someone clones your phone and starts using your pay app?
But I dont wanna get too far off subject... right now, you can only root an Exynox and it blows their security fuse in the process... better than their old knox I guess for Samsung, but sucks for those who will never try to open their phone... maybe someone will find a work around for it.... But we can upload new roms on a SnapDragon I hear?!? Its the bloatware that is of major concern to me and if we can flash a new rom and get rid of it... thats something... I dont really see any ROMS out for either phone... my s8 is a Exynox SM950F...
So do I order an Exynox that I can unlock again, or is someone using this time stuck in your house to root the Snapdragon and start making roms?

Question What do you loose if you root or flash a galaxy z fold, is Knox still an issue like before?

With samsung releasing necessary bits for the development of Custom ROMs is there still dramatic downsides to flashing any of these potential roms onto a samsung device, is the dreaded Knox still an issue in this department?

I am rooted what can i test for you?
Not sure how to test KNOX...
See my "how to root" thread for known issues (galaxy wear can't connect watch)

justloyld said:
With samsung releasing necessary bits for the development of Custom ROMs is there still dramatic downsides to flashing any of these potential roms onto a samsung device, is the dreaded Knox still an issue in this department?
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I rooted an s20 Ultra a couple of years ago the following issues occurred.
I had a Galaxy watch 2 and 3 both would fail to sync with the phone
s-health would not work
Samsung pay would not work
the secure folder would not work
Samsung pass also stopped working
these apps did fail to work but relocking the bootloader brought the google play certification back
google play store became uncertified which made google pay and my banking app also stop working
OTA updates stopped to
wasn't worth it for me haven't done it since the s20 ultra.

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my banking app also stop working
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did you try magisk hide or zygisk? if you dont mind what banking apps do you use?
I only ask because I haven't experienced any issues with the banking apps (Chase, Discover, USAA) I used on my last device, a rooted oneplus 7T Pro.

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99.99% sure that KNOX eFuse will be blown with root ... and - in UK at least - your warranty is instantly & permanently void.

Yeah, AFAIK it blows the knox fuse, so anything with personal data from Samsung stops working. That includes pay, wear, health, sec folder etc. Also Google stuff becomes a pain. Probably work around for that, but honestly, doesn't give you anything, and just causes issue, so don't bother

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Yeah, AFAIK it blows the knox fuse, so anything with personal data from Samsung stops working. That includes pay, wear, health, sec folder etc. Also Google stuff becomes a pain. Probably work around for that, but honestly, doesn't give you anything, and just causes issue, so don't bother
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Totally agree. Rooting a phone in 2022 is as useful as buying a house with an outside toilet. Not many want this feature in their life.

Rooting doesn't make any sense anymore. on the contrary it brings so many issues especially regarding banking and password managing applications.
I was a flashcoholic during the good old days, and rooting a phone was the first thing I did when I purchased any phone. but that was because of the software limitations and the mostly not up-to-date Android on the phones I bought. Add to that I didn't have bank apps back then.
Now Samsung has almost the best software update policy, you can buy the phone today and have OS updates for the next four years, add to that the maturity the software and the UI have reached. Tweaks are barely needed and if so, there is the Good Lock app which has many useful additions and customization.

ghassan haddad said:
Rooting doesn't make any sense anymore. on the contrary it brings so many issues especially regarding banking and password managing applications.
I was a flashcoholic during the good old days, and rooting a phone was the first thing I did when I purchased any phone.
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#MeToo. I am a recovering root-a-holic from late 2000s to mid 2010s but rooting a samsung in the 2020s is more trouble than benefit for anyone who is not an active XDA custom rom dev.

i did root my fold 4 because several apps (titanium, Lucky Patcher) i use need root access.
and LP is so important because i can disable annoying ads in apps.
banking apps do run great with zygisk in magisk.

Thrudvangar said:
i did root my fold 4 because several apps (titanium, Lucky Patcher) i use need root access.
and LP is so important because i can disable annoying ads in apps.
banking apps do run great with zygisk in magisk.
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Or just use Pihole and all your devices are add free... As for lucky got no need for it, didn't even realise still going..

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Or just use Pihole and all your devices are add free... As for lucky got no need for it, didn't even realise still going..
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Does Pihole work for blocking Ads from apps?
Do you recommend it run on router or device or?

I've got it running in a container on my home server, but did have it on a raspberry pi for a bit. Works great and stops from everything

People who are talking that root is not as important as before. Give me an alternative to Viper4android without root. and I will get Convinced.

mastrok said:
People who are talking that root is not as important as before. Give me an alternative to Viper4android without root. and I will get Convinced.
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No idea why you need it, the sound profile is decent out of it with a little tweaking of the dsp settings and decent headphones. After all your listening for the most part over a lossy connection (Bluetooth) anyhow. But if you 'need' it, then more power too you, but a synthetic dsp is not worth the agro impo

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No idea why you need it, the sound profile is decent out of it with a little tweaking of the dsp settings and decent headphones. After all your listening for the most part over a lossy connection (Bluetooth) anyhow. But if you 'need' it, then more power too you, but a synthetic dsp is not worth the agro impo
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I have been using Viper for more than 13 years not since I owned a Samsung Galaxy S4, running by Huawei phones, Oneplus. I have never seen any OEM Audio tuning that brings the same quality and crisp sound that viper brings, and tons of customizations.. I make my phones sound better with Airpods pros than iPhones themselves..
I would really like to invest in a fold 4. but If I can't get it to sound like my rooted Oneplus 7t pro I will be very disappointed..

mastrok said:
People who are talking that root is not as important as before. Give me an alternative to Viper4android without root. and I will get Convinced.
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I dont know what new functionality V4A would give me and I'm obviously not missing it as I haven't felt the need to root any phone for well over 5 years. Android 12/13 and Samsung UI is plenty flexible and open enough for the vast majority of users not to NEED to root.
Nobody is saying you don't have the right to root,... you do have the right! Go root yout $2000 device if you want to Its your choice
...but root with your eyes open and research the pros and cons before you flash a non-samsung image & permanently trip the knox efuse.
HOWEVER.... look again at the title of this forum topic
What do you loose if you root or flash a galaxy z fold, is Knox still an issue like before?​Answer: You lose a heck of a lot in most regions of the world ! .... Banking apps, Samsung Pay... Warranty. and Knox eFuse is tripped permanently.

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mastrok said:
I have been using Viper for more than 13 years not since I owned a Samsung Galaxy S4, running by Huawei phones, Oneplus. I have never seen any OEM Audio tuning that brings the same quality and crisp sound that viper brings, and tons of customizations.. I make my phones sound better with Airpods pros than iPhones themselves..
I would really like to invest in a fold 4. but If I can't get it to sound like my rooted Oneplus 7t pro I will be very disappointed..
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hi mastrok. i felt the same like you. i was using v4a since many many years and i loved it.
so then i did buy a fold 4 and i started to realize that v4a will not work on this phone. this was very sad and disappointing for me.
so i had to look for an alternative solution.
i installed jamesdsp via magisk and i use poweramp.
in jamesdsp i only set up the convolver. in poweramp i set up the equalizer and the bass and treble adjustment.
for me the sound is now like in v4a.
i am satisfied with that solution.
but to come back to the topic: you need root access for that i assume.

dezborders said:
I dont know what new functionality V4A would give me and I'm obviously not missing it as I haven't felt the need to root any phone for well over 5 years. Android 12/13 and Samsung UI is plenty flexible and open enough for the vast majority of users not to NEED to root.
Nobody is saying you don't have the right to root,... you do have the right! Go root yout $2000 device if you want to Its your choice
...but root with your eyes open and research the pros and cons before you flash a non-samsung image & permanently trip the knox efuse.
HOWEVER.... look again at the title of this forum topic
What do you loose if you root or flash a galaxy z fold, is Knox still an issue like before?​Answer: You lose a heck of a lot in most regions of the world ! .... Banking apps, Samsung Pay... Warranty. and Knox eFuse is tripped permanently.
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why do you say that you loose banking apps and samsung pay with root? that is not true!
and after root my knox status remained at knox 0x0 as i remember when i was the last time in download mode.
i can easily unroot it if i want.

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why do you say that you loose banking apps and samsung pay with root? that is not true!
and after root my knox status remained at knox 0x0 as i remember when i was the last time in download mode.
i can easily unroot it if i want.
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It IS true in the UK that some banking apps wont run on rooted devices (santander, HSBC for 2 examples)
My understanding was that knox is tripped permanently first time you flash a custom rom or a non samsung image.
News to me that this has changed, but good luck to you.
I will never root a samsung phone again ever ever. no need. too many downsides. too few upsides.
Finally, there was a poll in XDA last month about who plans to root their Fold4. 75% of recipients said never ever. 25% said maybe.
Rooting is now un unpopular and specialist option less than 25% of XDA members want. This is fact, stats taken from an open poll.