Z5 premium hanged after 2 weeks.... - Xperia Z5 Premium Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Today my z5 hanged while I wanted to use Google maps and when I try to restart it took 10 min or so....
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This also happens with mine too, ive had it for 3 weeks now and is becoming really slow and laggy on most applications, the battery is absolutely dyer.
Why I sold my z3 for it I don't know.
time for a rethink..

Many users are reporting an improvement on most issues they have if they restore factory settings at least once after they bought the device. Flashing a firmware would work as well
Also, Sony is probably putting more effort into Marshmallow now, than polishing Lollipop, so I would wait for that and then judge.
I know it sucks since its a top shelf device, but unlucky android release timing

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[Q] [XS] Are you genuinely happy with your phone?

So the Xperia S is well over a year old now, we've had delayed updates for the ICS at first and then the wtf delays for Jellybean. We've had bugs, lived with them and ultimately fixed, the dev community for it seems to be fully alive and kicking now with tons of roms to choose from.
but the question remains,
can you genuinely say that you are happy with the Xperia S?
for someone who bought the phone just about a month or so after being released at a premium price, my answer would be a very solid MEH.
Jellybean may have come, but it still gets pretty slow sometimes (and I use minimal apps, no cosmetic apps or custom launchers at all), tried custom roms (all the devs have done a tremendous job, but each rom still have their own problems).
I was very happy with the phone when it came out.
A few updates later, and battery life is terrible but everything else is ok.
To be honest, the battery life is making me really not like the phone. Something as simple as leaving it overnight with everything off and no use and it somehow drains 30 - 40%. On the release date firmware I could easily get 4 days with minimal use. Since the last few updates I am lucky to get 1 day barely using the phone.
Overall, I would also give it a resounding MEH.
Since Xperia Ion uses the same internals of Xperia S, I would say I am extremely satisfied with my phone. Battery life overnight drops randomly overnight. On a good night it drops 2%, 20% on a bad one. I investigated and the drop seems to come from Google Now and Facebook But battery life on the average day is below par. Playing Minion Rush straight for 1 hour results in 50% drop in battery. But I wouldn't blame Sony. The CPU inside in Qualcomm's first generation and isn't very powerful efficient. But I usually turn off the phone fearing the "radiation" from the network radios. The screen quality very good, and personally, better than Xperia Z. No comments of speaker quality as I usually use the headset. Pertaining to the Jelly Bean update, no doubt it's smooth and fluid and there's no many bugs. But I am very surprised Sony can miss the 1080p video problem. But if you discount that, I would say Sony did a great job.
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Yes,I am happy with my ion :3
Many people said bug there and there with their phone even in ICS...but my ICS is fine enough for me to keep me happy...but still Jellybean haven't arrived yet in Malaysia,but all firmware of Xperia in Malaysia are all stable that's what I like about it
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Will never be happy without the possibility of unlocking my BL.
If I wanted a ultra.locked system I buy an iPhone... And even that is jailbreakable.
Probably will not buy sony again during this policy from them.
About hardware... Xperia S is a good phone, no doubts about that.
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really happy with my Xperia Acro S, .200 Unlocked BL; Root.
1st day i got, already dunk into washing machine, been abuse it ever since.
no worries about battery though, camping/outdoor can last up to 72~80 hours should be enough for me.
nrdl said:
Will never be happy without the possibility of unlocking my BL.
If I wanted a ultra.locked system I buy an iPhone... And even that is jailbreakable.
Probably will not buy sony again during this policy from them.
About hardware... Xperia S is a good phone, no doubts about that.
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It's the telecom provider that requests your bootloader to be locked, not Sony. Even if you buy HTC or LG phones from the same network provider, there's high chances that it will be locked.
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lee480 said:
It's the telecom provider that requests your bootloader to be locked, not Sony. Even if you buy HTC or LG phones from the same network provider, there's high chances that it will be locked.
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Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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Your lack of research and sheer arrogance is commendable. Some US carrier variants of S4 and HTC One have their bootloaders locked. Go Google it yourself. Only difference: users have find ways to bypass the restriction in those phones.
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lee480 said:
Your lack of research and sheer arrogance is commendable. Some US carrier variants of S4 and HTC One have their bootloaders locked. Go Google it yourself. Only difference: users have find ways to bypass the restriction in those phones.
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Sorry, didn't know that as I don't live in the USA! I'm talking about European carriers.
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Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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Motorola only started offering a bootloader unlock facility on their most recent phones in about August last year. As someone who still owns an older Motorola phone (a Defy+) I can assure you that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader on that phone - bought SIM-free so no tie-in or lock-downs from a network provider. Check the threads on the XDA Defy forums if you don't believe me: they gave up trying. Previously, some Motorola phones were available with unlocked bootloaders from new, but they were effectively special versions intended for developers. Until the change of policy last year normal phones were locked and not unlockable.
lee480 is correct: Xperia phones have the option to unlock the bootloader by design, but network providers can arrange for that option to be disabled on the phones that they supply. My XAS (again, bought SIM-free) has the bootloader unlock option available, I just haven't enabled it. There are plenty of folks posting in the Xperia forums on XDA who have unlocked the bootloaders on their phones using the method provided by Sony - just look in the development sub-forums. Sony also provide a helpful online guide which explains how to get your bootloader unlocked (check out their list of 30+ supported phones and compare that to Motorola's list of just six, two of which are "developer editions").
If you want to knock Sony, you could at least get your facts right.
I know how to unlock the bootloader of a "normal" XS. Mine has been locked down by my carrier, so I don't even need to try it with Sony's method as it won't work.
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Yes, I happy with my unlocked SL. Except the audio. The sound quality is poor for me, the volume too. Both on the phone's speaker and on my Beyerdynamic DT 235. My old SE LwW has got a much better audio system. Another problem the jack. It's really sensitive on my SL. (If my english is bad, sorry)
Only thing I miss is a bigger battery. Once the screen is on or you use gps the small battery really starts to struggle.
For my use, i don't feel JB is different compared to ICS. Only thing I would miss in JB is to turn of data/wifi when the screen of. I would also miss the honescreen redraw in JB that ICS didn't have in quite as often.
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Isn't the home screen redraw related to memory and a lack of it at that time?
Used the xs for a long time and my gripe was the rear case, clips became worn and slips off easily. Loved the display though, compared to my xz and XT is really vibrant
I'm not really content with my phone. Battery life is a huge problem and also the bloatware, can't do multitasking enough.
av4tar said:
Isn't the home screen redraw related to memory and a lack of it at that time?
Used the xs for a long time and my gripe was the rear case, clips became worn and slips off easily. Loved the display though, compared to my xz and XT is really vibrant
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Think it is. Seen it more with JB compared to ICS, not only with a browser that was most common in ICS.
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Xperia Acro S
I'm very happy with my Acro S. For me, it's the most suitable phone, even compared to current models.
It's 4.3'' display has just the right dimensions to still be used with one hand and to still fit in any pocket.
It's water resistant; which is important since i'm sometimes somewhat heavy-handed (I already sunk two phones in my life, one got irreparably damaged by hot spiced wine aka "Glühwein").
It's SD-card slot enables me using my 32GB memory extension for keeping my music, my pics and videos and some general data. Which is not always that important in everyday-life, but when travelling, it's really nice (eg OSM map data).
I have an unlocked bootloader and have it rooted since my third week of use (which was Stock ICS that days).
With the camera mods from XDA members, even the camera makes nice (enough) pictures and videos. It's quick shot by hardware button feature is great.
My battery lasts 48h with usual use (including the sleeping times). But (to be on the save side) I usually charge it every night. I don't switch off Wifi, Bluetooth, ANT, GPS, GSM/3G-Data.
I like the ANT+-feature for running. 1 hour of running with BT headset, music player, GPS and heatrate tracking (runtastic) drains my battery by something like 10% (including the other general stuff like mail/calender sync and stuff at that time).
I use it for playing music on my way to work via bluetooth headset and in my car via bluetooth caraudio connector.
I home-improved a common docking station to be my car cradle for charging and provding me easy access to navigation and music control while driving. (I extremely like the charging pads of the Acro S for that, since I don't have to connect any wires.)
I home-crafted an alternative charging cradle for the charging pads; so I can place the phone horizontally on my bed while charging. (You know the "Sleep-as-Android"-app? Does not wake you when you're in deep sleep (until a deadline).)
I like to impress other smartphone users (especially iPhone) with the OTG feature. ("You want the photos of the last class reunion? You have your USB memory with you? You can have them right here and now...")
The phone is very stable (was with ICS and is with JB). I can't remember when it's OS crashed last time. I sometimes reboot it to free up some left-behind memory; that's all.
I like reading magazines (PDF) with Acrobat Reader when having to travel via train. The great display resolution makes it look really nice. (Of course, only if the magazine's good. IEEE Spectrum is good! )
I'm just waiting for an updated (XDA member's) 3.4-kernel giving me working cifs/smb-support, so that I can use my NAS again. (With ICS you needed a downloadable kernel module; JB kernel should already have it, but was broken in Linux' 3.4-sources.):fingers-crossed:
Just two little things to complain:
It's camera could be a little less noise when dark.
It could have more RAM. (When you have a lot of heavy apps running like Whatsapp, Hangout, Firefox/Chrome etc, Android starts continuously stopping and restarting background tasks and kills the launcher. That's annoying and drains the battery.) So: 2GB RAM and a better camera and it would be perfect.
The screen timing is too short. Standby is ok, but not with screen on.
Sometimes, msg would get stuck in outbox when I use go sms, while default msg app don have function like save msg into other folders, pop up box etc.
Every first update is buggy(first ics and jb sucks)
Illuminated bar don work in jb.
The camera could have been better(focus etc)
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The screen timing is too short.
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Workaround: Think about the app Keep Screen On.

Verizon G2

Looks like most major carriers will get the G2. It is at the top of my list right now so i thought i would pick the previous generations brain on the Updates and Source release's for the phone. Anyone mind sharing some input on how often and fast Updates for this phone roll out and the delay time for source code. I come from HTC and with their poor attempts to fix my Thunderbolt and the fact they canceled any future updates for the One S just a few weeks ago i have decided it will be a long time before i choose another HTC device. (Although i would LOVE a phone with front facing speakers.)
If you know anything about Updates / Source please post your idea of speed development and source releases and your carrier.
Thanks in advance!
They suck... for short. 9 months this phone is out same as Android 4.2 and they still can't update. Go for Sony or wait for the the next Nexus 5. Better the Nexus 5. As good as the G2 will be... updates suck...... i don't know if i.will keep the G much longer, i rather choose the good updates and custom Ron of the Z or the ONE. Samsung sucks as well... they only update the good phones which are 2-3 of 100 they out every year. The S4 the S3 and the Note 2 and there are/will be far better phones in a couple of months. The next Sony, the next Nexus even the Note 3 will be better except for the Exynos which sucks in support for custom Roms.
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Sony good with updates? Pffft good luck with that.
If you want updates go for a Nexus. I wouldn't go for another phone if updates bothered me that much.
Luckily the Gs stock ROM is blazing fast, so I don't see the need for a big update. But that's just me.
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Karcha said:
Sony good with updates? Pffft good luck with that.
If you want updates go for a Nexus. I wouldn't go for another phone if updates bothered me that much.
Luckily the Gs stock ROM is blazing fast, so I don't see the need for a big update. But that's just me.
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Yes. I know last year's Sony phone were not that updated but that's more because Qualcomm does not support the S3 chipset anymore and won't give drivers. But they made steps in the right direction in 2013. The level of custom ROMS is healthy, and they are stable (compared to other), they have their own AOSP project.... i don't see why he shouldn't choose the future Sony Honami with the 800 Snadragon and 20 MP camera, over the LG G2.
I know the Nexus will always be the best choice but sometimes you want a little more storage or better camera, or... so you should at least look at others.
I didn't even talk about the G2, I just said Sony updates suck. That's a fact. I know that since muy last two phones were Sony...
Sure, Honami will be a beast. But if I were concerned about updates I wouldn't consider it.
That's just my opinion based on my experience.
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Loving my ZL!!

Been a long time apple user ..since the original iphone in 2007. had every version of it. Got bored of ios and switched to Galaxy s3 last year and been quite happy so far. Last week i traded the S3 for Sony Xperia ZL..and man..i love this hardware and the version of android..
The sony launcher is by far the best one i've seen compared to the touchwiz and others..I used to have so many launchers and widgets on my S3 whereas i have no launchers and widgets on ZL.. The built in has all the features i need,,
Got the iphone 5S for the wife..but the display on ZL is quite something..camera is great. Battery life is reasonable (compared to my old S3) and the standard android customization is very handy..
Don't think i'll ever go back to ios or other android devices for a while.
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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melquisedec said:
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
I am waiting the update 4.3. Preying God mine fixed.
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TheTofu said:
I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
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well good to hear that, but almost all problems that people have they all uses custom roms.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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einfachgaer said:
Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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well what I say is what I read on the web.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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i agree - i love the stock rom as well. I'm with bell in canada. My android version says 4.2.2 build number is 10.3.A.0.423
No updates according to update centre..is the latest .67 udpate not available to bell customers?
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
On latest Stock rom and 0 problems with this wonderful device. It's high end and a pleasure to use it.
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scifan said:
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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I have no idea why it wouldn't be available via OTA.
As far as how to flash... search under the development forum for the ZL for Flashtool. There's also a thread that shows all of the different "rom" versions... I'd look there as well...
I am also super lucky with my ZL. Latest stock firmware and it is my first Android phone, where I don't feel the need for having root access...
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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Do it. The SP is a nice phone, but the ZL is leagues better in every way. You wont believe how small it really is until you hold it.
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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I've had the ZL for about a week now and I am pretty impressed with it. The size of the phone considering the screen size is amazing. It is a solid feeling phone and the red one I bought looks great. The battery life isn't too great compared to SP but that is to be expected. I downclocked it a bit so it does better and doesnt get as hot. The screen is miles better than the SP and the extra internal memory is nice. I did like the fact that the SP didn't have the stupid shatterproof sheet on it and it was advertised as gorilla glass. I also wish the IR blaster was on the top so I could hold it like a remote. I would have taken having the charging pins instead of the IR blaster. Still it is a good phone and probably the best designed five inch phone ever. I would have waited and gotten the Z1 compact but it's just too small for me now. 4.6 is perfect but 5 inch is great if the size is that of the ZL.
The vibration on the ZL is really weird compared to the SP. Its very strong, not sure if that is bad or good. The camera is soooo much better though.
Glad to read you are enjoying ZL.
Having sent mine in for RMA Support last month.
And since, been using first C6603, followed by now C5303.
Its highlighted to me just how superior the ZL is to these two more popular and widely available models.
IMHO Sony made a major mistake not to release the ZL in the same markets globally as Z.
As for the ZL's very strong vibration.
Yes, it is far stronger than both Z and SP.
That's been my experience too.
I don't doubt you are also enjoying the ZL's far superior outdoor visibility too.
As the Z, and the SP, displays are really mediocre by comparison when used outdoors in daylight.
I sure do miss ZL's superior loudspeaker performance too.
Particularly when using Navigation incar, or hearing it ring when you are in noisy environments.
So looking forward to the return of my ZL.
And seeing if Sony will release a true successor to the compact, limited market release, ZL.
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Droid turbo 2 software update!!

Dt2 just got a new ota it fixes charging issue , and new security patches as of 1 may. Charging speed really improved much better :laugh:
Really this small update worked a lot
So you're now ahead of Force, that's not fair
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Is this update for X Force to?
Do I have to be on marshmallow?
rodrigo196 said:
Is this update for X Force to?
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No it's for dt2
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Do I have to be on marshmallow?
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Yes, your phone should update to it by default after MM
Not updating yet so I guess I'll miss out.
This must've been the update to Moto Pure v 24.14.16. It actually made the situation worse than my turbo 2 was on lollipop. Before the update my phone ran like a champ, got me through a day and a half, and almost never lagged. Since the update, apps among other things have been crashing like crazy, and once, the system ui crashed, my phone lags on almost any game I play, and where before (even when I had lollipop) my phone never overheated and didn't throttle noticeably unless I pushed it unbelievably hard, my phone basically runs at 40°C when sitting at idle with no apps running. Use any function on the phone and I'm up to 42°C. My phone is not a bad phone, but the software update has basically destroyed this phone's fluidity. And I won't blame Lenovo or Motorola for this, because if such issues happen to non-carrier Motos, an OTA update to fix the issue at hand is imminent and coming fast. For reference, the Moto G⁴ and G⁴ plus had issues with overheating during specific conditions, and that issue was resolved within a week of the G⁴ plus's release. I instead see Verizon as the culprit, because since they feel the need to make sure all of that damned junk in their smartphones is there and installed, updates take forever. Some Verizon phones (AT&T does the same thing, just to a slightly lesser extent) are JUST NOW getting marshmallow. That is bad, because if the update instead hurts the performance of the phone like this one did, then you are left to hang as to when an update comes. Since I'm on VERIZON (even though Motorola has a bootloader unlocking option), I can't do jack crap about it. If I could, I would switch carriers. Or since I'm stuck on Verizon for now and I already have a nexus, I'll wait until Motorola releases pricing for the Moto z series and carry on from there.
Wipe your phone and see if it helps. Not seeing the same issues you are.

New firmware - 47.2.A.8.24 MY

February patches included.
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I test new firmware and i feel speedy to last one
after upgrade, my Sony Xperia xz1 blacked out on consecutive two morning 11+ while battery life around 30%+. After hard re-boot, white wrench repair logo appeared when boot up. Is this due to firmware issue or hardware issue
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after upgrade, my Sony Xperia xz1 blacked out on consecutive two morning 11+ while battery life around 30%+. After hard re-boot, white wrench repair logo appeared when boot up. Is this due to firmware issue or hardware issue
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Factory reset will fix any upgrade problems you have.
After a short while on android P, in my opinion, it isn't as good as Oreo. I've already got the Oreo firmware saved to my PC just in case i ever need to flash back, and i'm so very tempted, the only thing stopping me are the security updates

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