How is the "Chromecast" communication to the YouTube app implemented on FireTV? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How is the "Chromecast" communication to the YouTube app implemented on FireTV?
I just noticed that by using the "Chromecast" button in the YouTube app on my Android smartphone I can send a video URL to the YouTube app installed on my Fire TV stick.
This works only with YouTube but not with any other Chromecast enabled app.
Any idea how this is implemented and which protocol is being used for this? As to my knowlege the Fire TV doesn't support the Chromecast protocol (except via 3rd party apps like YouMap). Did Google implement the Fling protocol recently presented by Amazon into YouTube? Or does the YouTube app on the Fire TV include the server side implementation of the Chromecast protocol?

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Can Fire TV be used as a Chromecast RECEIVER?

Is there any way to set up the Fire TV as a Chromecast RECEIVER so I don't have to use both my Chromecast and the Fire TV?
NOTE: As of update 51.1.4.0_user_514006420, there is now a "display mirroring" option. This allows casting from any device that supports Miracast - I wish it supported Chromecast as well, but it's better than nothing.
martyxng said:
Is there any way to set up the Fire TV as a Chromecast RECEIVER so I don't have to use both my Chromecast and the Fire TV?
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http://www.sparkup.tv
I have not used it, I use AllCast for Fire TV instead.
I am really looking for a way to get apps that officially support Chromecast to get to my Fire TV. I have used allcast, but that only seems to stream photos and videos from within the AllCast app. That Spark app looks cool anyway though. I'd like to see how that is. Thanks!
I just realized that in the YouTube app on Android, you can "cast" to Fire TV. I didn't realize that! That seems to be the only app that supports it though. Other apps do not show my Fire TV when I tap the "cast" icon. Those apps on the Fire TV must have to specifially code for that...unless someone can trick the Fire TV into thinking it's a Chromecast!
As of update 51.1.4.0_user_514006420, there is now a "display mirroring" option. This allows casting from any device that supports Miracast.
Push.
Got it for christmas and thought this feature would be already in it.
I wanna use the cast button in apps.
Any ideas
Yes, by now, please refer to this thread for free trial of YouMap cast receiver:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/har...p-how-to-fire-tv-chromecast-receiver-t3162363
http://www.amazon.de/VMLite-Corporation-YouMap-Cast-Receiver/dp/B013KQ9FYM
Works good with YouTube and play music
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Youmap Cast Receiver
Does anyone know where I can find the apk download for the paid version of Youmap that works on Amazon Fire TV stick?
The app was taken off the Amazon App Store, so I was wondering if I purchased the $9.99 app from the Google Play Store, would that apk work on the Fire TV?
Thanks.
mikie00mike said:
Does anyone know where I can find the apk download for the paid version of Youmap that works on Amazon Fire TV stick?
The app was taken off the Amazon App Store, so I was wondering if I purchased the $9.99 app from the Google Play Store, would that apk work on the Fire TV?
Thanks.
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That app was removed by amazon at the request of google (theres a story to that) but in a nutshell no chromecast for aftv. I believe the app will only work till the end of 2015 and you cant buy it anymore.
I was lucky and bought nexus player for $25 at target. Chromecast works perfectly with no fuss but id like a better solution for aftv.

[Q] My Top AFTV Working Apps List

My Top AFTV Working Apps List
Adobe Flash Player
AGK Fire
Amazon Cloud Drive Photos
Amazon Fire TV Remote App
Amazon Prime Video
Amazon Shopping
Application Organizer Pro (Fire TV Edition)
Asphalt 8: Airborne
Baby Channel
BBC I-Player
BBC News
BBC Sport
BBC Weather
Blinkbox
Bollywood Channel
BT Sports
Caller-ID (Fire TV Edition)
Care World TV
CartoonHD
ChannelLive
Chinese Food
Chrome Browser - Google
Clock
Curzon Home Cinema
Daily Mail Online
Dance Trippin TV
Demand 5
Domino's Pizza
Dropbox
ES File Explorer File Manager
Facebook
Fire Fox
Fired TV Launcher 1.1.5
Fireplace
Flixster
Foggy Waterfall for TV
Food network
FoodyTV
Freesat
Frequency
Gmail
History Channel
iFood.tv
ikono TV
Indian Recipes
ITV Player
KODI 14.0 - with the Navi-X Plug-in - Black Nova Skin
Live Sports Tv Channels HD (Kindle Fire Supported)
Live TV Player
LiveNow!TV
Llama
Mexican Food
Microsoft Outlook Preview
Microsoft Remote Desktop
Ministry of Sound Radio
Mobdro
MTV Trax - Free Music Player
musiXmatch TV
MUZU
Netflix
NOW TV: Movies, TV & Sport
PLEX
Pluto TV
Popcorntime
Prime Instant Video
Qello
Serenity for Android
Show Box
Sky+
Sky Go
Sky News
SKY Now TV
Sky Sports for Android
Snow Ambience Free
Sports Live Tv HD Free
Sports TV Channels Live Streaming
Spotify Connect
STV Player
Thai Food
Trip Asia
TuneIn Radio
TVCatchup
TVPlayer
Twitter
VEVO - Watch HD Music Videos
Vimeo
Vimu Player
WWE Network
YouTube
YuppTV
What are your favorite working apps?
Can you categorize the applist with fire tv remote and external mouse needed to control?
that will be very helpful.
mrhoque said:
Can you categorize the applist with fire tv remote and external mouse needed to control?
that will be very helpful.
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I agree. That would be most helpful. I rather not have to use a mouse for most my apps and if someone already knows they could post so we don't all have to test..
Do you have links to Bollywood channel and Indian recipes apps?
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I am not sure how I can go about downloading the apks you have listed to install these with adbfire on my unrooted firestick ( Sky Sports for Android) but they do look like a good list
I suggest the global use of an extra abbreviation for FireTV Stick to end the confusion.
Also,make a seperate list since some apps don't work on the stick. (I heard retroarch had more issues)
Abbreviation: AFTV-Stick
Its better than confusion.
Also,YouTube is a PITA now because of the broken services 7.3.29 issue.
The 4.4.11 (v5b) YouTube MOD works without even needing root access since it also doesn't need Google Play Services.
retroben said:
I suggest the global use of an extra abbreviation for FireTV Stick to end the confusion.
Also,make a seperate list since some apps don't work on the stick. (I heard retroarch had more issues)
Abbreviation: AFTV-Stick
Its better than confusion.
Also,YouTube is a PITA now because of the broken services 7.3.29 issue.
The 4.4.11 (v5b) YouTube MOD works without even needing root access since it also doesn't need Google Play Services.
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Google Play Sevices is not broken, 7.3.29 is not built to work on the Fire TV. 7.0.99 is actualy the same version as 7.3.29 with a different version number and is meant to work with the Fire TV hardware. 7.3.29 is the latest version that works on certain hardware and 7.0.99 is also the latest version for other devicess. Not all devices use the same verion of an app. Thats why if you go to the actuall playstore every app will say "latest version - varies from devicess", cause depending on your hardware the version number will be different. Also, I am using the lastest version of Youtube with 7.0.99 and it works great. The only problem is that when ram gets too low videos won't play, but the solution is to either force close Youtube or run fast reboot. After that videos will start playing again, at least that is what works for me. I have Dock4droid installed with a fast reboot shortcut so when Youtube acts up I just close it, do a fast reboot and all is well.

Firetv Stick - Casting youtube + other question...

Whenever I use youtube app on my android mobile there is a small casting button on top, when pressed it directly opens the video on my smart TV.
Now, can I use the Fire Stick the same way to instantly cast youtube videos to my non smart TV ?
PS: I want to Cast not Mirror.
Also, off-topic... many of my videos does not play or doesn't have sound when played on TV via USB saying format not supported. What kind of simple device do I have to buy/use so that I can play all by personal videos and also have services inbuilt like Netflix and Amazon prime ?

Youtube TV

So I know there's a Smart Youtube app and Ive installed it. Is there any way to cast my iphone and YouTube TV to my FireTV? If not was toying around with getting an Apple TV
Thanks
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sparker781 said:
So I know there's a Smart Youtube app and Ive installed it. Is there any way to cast my iphone and YouTube TV to my FireTV? If not was toying around with getting an Apple TV
Thanks
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https://www.reddit.com/r/firetvstick/comments/7n20hc/casting_with_smart_youtube_tv/
With the Smart YouTube TV app you've installed on your Fire TV, technically no.
The regular YouTube app (and by extension the Smart YouTube TV) doesn't use the proper Chromecast protocol - it uses a different, 'cut-down' version called DIAL. More information about this protocol can be found here.
It seems that I'm in a similar situation as you are - I've got a Fire TV, however also want to cast things to it. A native YouTube TV app would be nice as well!
Unfortunately Amazon and Google still haven't sorted their differences, hence waiting for a native YouTube TV app for FireOS might be foolish at this stage. As you can see in your other post on the topic, there does seem to be developer movement in figuring out how to successfully side-load YouTube TV. Fingers crossed.
From my research as of now, you might want to consider getting a different streaming media player - you'd probably want an Apple TV (if you have an iPhone), and I'm thinking of getting a Nvidia Shield TV (since it supports all the streaming services and has chromecast functionality built-in).
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With the Smart YouTube TV app you've installed on your Fire TV, technically no.
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But that's fine, I have the Smart YouTube TV app connected with my smartphone by ID and now I can stream and controll from the Phone-YouTube app to the Fire TV app .
i found a workaround for now. Can cast from my iphone to my Xbox One
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your_posse said:
With the Smart YouTube TV app you've installed on your Fire TV, technically no.
The regular YouTube app (and by extension the Smart YouTube TV) doesn't use the proper Chromecast protocol - it uses a different, 'cut-down' version called DIAL. More information about this protocol can be found here.
It seems that I'm in a similar situation as you are - I've got a Fire TV, however also want to cast things to it. A native YouTube TV app would be nice as well!
Unfortunately Amazon and Google still haven't sorted their differences, hence waiting for a native YouTube TV app for FireOS might be foolish at this stage. As you can see in your other post on the topic, there does seem to be developer movement in figuring out how to successfully side-load YouTube TV. Fingers crossed.
From my research as of now, you might want to consider getting a different streaming media player - you'd probably want an Apple TV (if you have an iPhone), and I'm thinking of getting a Nvidia Shield TV (since it supports all the streaming services and has chromecast functionality built-in).
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I am waiting for delivery of a Channel Master Stream+ made by Technicolor:
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_Plus_p/cm-7600.htm
It arrived at their ware house last week. When they will ship to buyers remains unseen. And, will Netflix be supported and USB hard drive be enabled. it does has Micro SD DVR for now. My goal is OTA DVR for Locals and stream the rest. Tried a Shield Pro last summer but the remote was dead and support was less than helpful. Sent it back. Curious as to why the pro has been discontinued.
rainman74 said:
But that's fine, I have the Smart YouTube TV app connected with my smartphone by ID and now I can stream and controll from the Phone-YouTube app to the Fire TV app .
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Yes, and that's all you'll be able to do with the 'Smart YouTube TV' app - it only supports sending video links from YouTube --> YouTube (and other limited uses) using the DIAL protocol.
OP specifically asked for casting abilities (I'm presuming more Chromecast- or AirPlay-like), so that they can cast not just YouTube, but also other apps (such as 'YouTube TV'). This is definitely not supported with the alternative 'Smart YouTube TV' app at this stage.
If you have an Xbox One, then this supports casting from iOS and Android (as OP stated above).
Various other media streaming box options exist that have full casting abilities built-in (such as the Channel Master Stream+ @schneid has mentioned). This device actually looks pretty interesting, and I'd like to hear about your experience with the device when it eventually gets shipped @schneid !
schneid said:
I am waiting for delivery of a Channel Master Stream+ made by Technicolor:
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_Plus_p/cm-7600.htm
It arrived at their ware house last week. When they will ship to buyers remains unseen. And, will Netflix be supported and USB hard drive be enabled. it does has Micro SD DVR for now. My goal is OTA DVR for Locals and stream the rest. Tried a Shield Pro last summer but the remote was dead and support was less than helpful. Sent it back. Curious as to why the pro has been discontinued.
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My Stream+ was shipped and lost in the mail. Probably a good thing. I've been reading on AVSForum and the product seems to be a disaster:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hdtv-recorders/2963228-official-channel-master-stream-owner-s-thread.html
schneid said:
My Stream+ was shipped and lost in the mail. Probably a good thing. I've been reading on AVSForum and the product seems to be a disaster:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hd...ial-channel-master-stream-owner-s-thread.html
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Well that stinks. Hope you'll get reimbursed for it!
What device do you think you'll get as a substitute in the meantime?
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Youtube stuck at 720p FireTv Stick (Tank)

Hi, I realized that YouTube videos in many cases do not upload of 720p, particularly those that are at [email protected]
I already tried to sideload the youtube app from android tv and it works perfect all videos are at 1080p, except that it is not possible to login due to the lack of google services
the other alternative was to use smart youtube tv app, which also works but has some bugs and crashes especially in live broadcasts
Has anyone managed to fix this? in the stock app or log in on youtube tv through google account?
thanks for the help!
itsjaycs said:
Hi, I realized that YouTube videos in many cases do not upload of 720p, particularly those that are at [email protected]
I already tried to sideload the youtube app from android tv and it works perfect all videos are at 1080p, except that it is not possible to login due to the lack of google services
the other alternative was to use smart youtube tv app, which also works but has some bugs and crashes especially in live broadcasts
Has anyone managed to fix this? in the stock app or log in on youtube tv through google account?
thanks for the help!
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You can use Smart YouTube TV from Aptoide
To sign-in to YouTube with your Google account:
https://youtube.com/activate

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