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High battery drain when using a 3.0 kernel

Flashed the ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 which uses a 3.0 kernel. It runs smooth on my device. However, if I use my phone to listen to music, my battery drains very fast (about 40%/h) although I'm not doing anything else with the device. It also gets quite warm as if it had a high CPU load. However, the CPU load is low as you'd expect. The CPU clock is also OK, most of the time it runs at 245Mhz.
I then downloaded the very same RO with a 2.6 kernel. This time, battery was good when listening to music (1%/15m) and the device stays at a normal temperature so I assume there is a problem with the 3.0 kernel. Did anybody else also encounter this? What can I do to help debugging this problem?

Personally I'd suggest to move over to a similar but better/more stable ROM. Two that come to mind are mimicry and elitemod ICS, both are great and have far less bugs than the ROM you are using. But to each there own... I'd suggest contacting the developer, either within the thread or via pm and ask him why he implemented the 3.0 kernel when it is just far to buggy to use as a daily driver? I'm not hating on him just seems as it was put in his ROM and well... not supported much thereafter.
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The 3.0 kernel isn't as stable as 2.6. If the battery drain issue is that bad then I would suggest moving onto a rom that still uses 2.6. Or if you feel lucky, go test out Andromadus JB which also has the 3.0 kernel. It might be better there. Considering you're testing this with a music app, why not try another application? Try changing the overclock settings. The unofficial CM9.1 and Andromadus are mostly in testing right now. You'd have to be willing to deal with these problems if you use those roms, and report the bugs to the authors.
I would suggest using Mimicry. It may not have all the new bells and whistles like 3.0 kernel, but at least it's stable.

For the record, the 2.6 kernel that Mimicry uses has a *ton* of 3.0 kernel patches merged into it.
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Thanks for the replies! Forgot to mention that I first also blamed the audio player (Apollo) and changed to the app I used with the stock ROM but the battery drain was just as bad. So: sorry Apollo
My intention was to help the author of the ROM to track down that issue. But since I'm new to these forums I wasn't allow to reply to the original thread so I wanted to ask first if this is a known general issue of the 3.0 kernel. I'll PM the author and point him to the thread. If anybody knows a good thread on debugging battery drain issues or knows how to do this, please feel free to post links here, I'll also search further.

Madthrillhouse said:
Thanks for the replies! Forgot to mention that I first also blamed the audio player (Apollo) and changed to the app I used with the stock ROM but the battery drain was just as bad. So: sorry Apollo
My intention was to help the author of the ROM to track down that issue. But since I'm new to these forums I wasn't allow to reply to the original thread so I wanted to ask first if this is a known general issue of the 3.0 kernel. I'll PM the author and point him to the thread. If anybody knows a good thread on debugging battery drain issues or knows how to do this, please feel free to post links here, I'll also search further.
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I have the same problem. 40%/h drainage, with either poweramp or apollo. I use CM9.1-vision-3.0-V4
Any news on this?
TIA
Frank

i think 3.x.43 is high battery drain,but 3.x.40 is better than 3.x.43

GaardenZwerch said:
I have the same problem. 40%/h drainage, with either poweramp or apollo. I use CM9.1-vision-3.0-V4
Any news on this?
TIA
Frank
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I sent the developer a PM offering help on this but didn't get a reply. I then reverted back to the 2.6 kernel which works just fine in terms of battery usage.

Still in CM9.1.0 Final
Madthrillhouse said:
I sent the developer a PM offering help on this but didn't get a reply. I then reverted back to the 2.6 kernel which works just fine in terms of battery usage.
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Hi,
just to let you know
this behaviour is still there with the "CyanogenMod 9.1.0 - 3.x Kernel - Final" ROM.
Thanks
Frank

GaardenZwerch said:
Hi,
just to let you know
this behaviour is still there with the "CyanogenMod 9.1.0 - 3.x Kernel - Final" ROM.
Thanks
Frank
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the problem still persist...
my phone battery runs out to fast...

Use mimicry it avoids the problematic kernel and it is the original code
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[Q] Best custom/mod kernel for Stock UCLJ3 Rom (root)

Just wondering what the best kernel is to flash to the stock UCLJ3 rom?
I'm suffering crazy battery drain since updating. I've done a ton of things including a full wipe and reflash, and it's still happening.
Only thing I havent tried, or done before is flash a kernel...
Any recommendations?

melvatron said:
Just wondering what the best kernel is to flash to the stock UCLJ3 rom?
I'm suffering crazy battery drain since updating. I've done a ton of things including a full wipe and reflash, and it's still happening.
Only thing I havent tried, or done before is flash a kernel...
Any recommendations?
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Haven't had any trouble with the battery drain using IcePop rom! but of course flashing any new rom, you have to let it settle for 1 to 2 days / charge cycles for the os to stabilize!

I've been running it since day of release.... Using battery apps all reports that the Android OS using a heavy % and/or the phone isnt always going into deep sleep.
And its happening even before I put a google account on or install any apps.
I suppose I could go back to G9 or the H2 release... might do it as a test, to see if it really is the J3 release thats causing me problems.

melvatron said:
I've been running it since day of release.... Using battery apps all reports that the Android OS using a heavy % and/or the phone isnt always going into deep sleep.
And its happening even before I put a google account on or install any apps.
I suppose I could go back to G9 or the H2 release... might do it as a test, to see if it really is the J3 release thats causing me problems.
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Which kernel are your running? Also check to see what your cpu governor is set to! Use system tuner from the market
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Just the default I think... I dont believe I've done anything more than flash an entire ROM, and mostly rooted stocks.
Gonna give that app a try though, thanks for the tip.

melvatron said:
Just the default I think... I dont believe I've done anything more than flash an entire ROM, and mostly rooted stocks.
Gonna give that app a try though, thanks for the tip.
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I'm hoping to release a new an updated version if not tonight maybe by Monday! battery life should be good.
keep in mind that a deodexed rom will use a little more power!
Thanks

[Q] T-999 S III gets really hot and kills battery in matter of couple hours.

(this is my first post so im sorry if i posted in the wrong place or asked in the wrong area)
A couple nights ago i flashed a 4.2.2 P.A.C man ROM ( dont get me wrong i love this ROM thanks to the devs ) but ever since i installed this ROM my phone has been heating up to temperatures like 96 degrees Fahrenheit this kills my battery really fast, i just use basic apps like stock messaging app or apollo music player :'(
(today i unplugged my phone from the charger at around 7:25 AM and by 10:00 AM i was down to about 23% battery life) along with this sometimes my phone crashes ( i believe its from the heat) and i have to pull my battery pack out and reinsert it to boot up the phone.
I love this ROM but this is irritating me i cant get 5 hours out of my battery i already tried a new SIII battery and the same thing happened.
If someone could please help me or atleast guide me somewhere that would help me i would appreciate it i used to love listening to music on my way home but now i cant :/

blueskidder said:
(this is my first post so im sorry if i posted in the wrong place or asked in the wrong area)
A couple nights ago i flashed a 4.2.2 P.A.C man ROM ( dont get me wrong i love this ROM thanks to the devs ) but ever since i installed this ROM my phone has been heating up to temperatures like 96 degrees Fahrenheit this kills my battery really fast, i just use basic apps like stock messaging app or apollo music player :'(
(today i unplugged my phone from the charger at around 7:25 AM and by 10:00 AM i was down to about 23% battery life) along with this sometimes my phone crashes ( i believe its from the heat) and i have to pull my battery pack out and reinsert it to boot up the phone.
I love this ROM but this is irritating me i cant get 5 hours out of my battery i already tried a new SIII battery and the same thing happened.
If someone could please help me or atleast guide me somewhere that would help me i would appreciate it i used to love listening to music on my way home but now i cant :/
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try to reflash the rom with full wipe . if that doesnt work use another rom in the meantime. i would of said use another battery, but you stated the problem continued. i think its the rom

Sounds like something may be keeping the CPU at 100%. Let's see some stats?

Wouldn't go as far as the rom is the issue as the person using the rom (not a shot at you op) we need more details on what you did to install and what you came from and stuff. Might be your boot loader needs to be updated. Might be a kernel issue. Like I said can't immediately run and blame roms, even though its possible. Download betterbatterystats and report battery life with detailed info.
T-Mobile SGS III

re: roms
blueskidder said:
(this is my first post so im sorry if i posted in the wrong place or asked in the wrong area)
A couple nights ago i flashed a 4.2.2 P.A.C man ROM ( dont get me wrong i love this ROM thanks to the devs ) but ever since i installed this ROM my phone has been heating up to temperatures like 96 degrees Fahrenheit this kills my battery really fast, i just use basic apps like stock messaging app or apollo music player :'(
(today i unplugged my phone from the charger at around 7:25 AM and by 10:00 AM i was down to about 23% battery life) along with this sometimes my phone crashes ( i believe its from the heat) and i have to pull my battery pack out and reinsert it to boot up the phone.
I love this ROM but this is irritating me i cant get 5 hours out of my battery i already tried a new SIII battery and the same thing happened.
If someone could please help me or atleast guide me somewhere that would help me i would appreciate it i used to love listening to music on my way home but now i cant :/
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The pacman rom is an CM10/AOSP/AOKP or a ported rom.
It is an excellent rom for developers and for those people who like to do a lot of experimentation with their phones.
What I would suggest is to flash a custom rom like "Wicked V10", "Darthstalker X2" or the "STOCKORAMA" V2 rom.
Any custom roms based on Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 would be a very excellent choice.
These custom roms are feature packed with themes, addons, mods and other extras. - Check em out!
Here are the links to those roms in case you decide to flash one of them.
STOCKORAMA | VERSION 2 | Aroma | Multi-Carrier | Multi-Window
WICKED™ v10 | AROMA | Rom Control | Full Customization
DARTHSTALKER ☆ | VERSION X2 | Aroma | Multi-Carrier | Customizable
Good luck!

Misterjunky said:
The pacman rom is an CM10/AOSP/AOKP or a ported rom.
It is an excellent rom for developers and for those people who like to do a lot of experimentation with their phones.
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Please stop posting that its only a good rom for developers... I used aosp type builds steady for 5 months except for when I worked in a certain job site and had to have WiFi calling, I restored right away as soon as possible. It might not be 100% stable but its good for a very very large community including some friends of mine who know close to nothing about phones or modding and devving. Those other ROMs are just opinion (not bad ones at all) and you aren't helping the op at all with his question that he asked.
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Wouldn't go as far as the rom is the issue as the person using the rom (not a shot at you op) we need more details on what you did to install and what you came from and stuff. Might be your boot loader needs to be updated. Might be a kernel issue. Like I said can't immediately run and blame roms, even though its possible. Download betterbatterystats and report battery life with detailed info.
T-Mobile SGS III
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I came from Jedi invasion 3.0 i flashed everything back to stock jellybean for tmobile then i re-rooted and flashed P.A.C man (4.2.2) using clockwork also flashed Gapps 20130301 as well.
what did you need me to screenshot on betterbatterystats ?

blueskidder said:
I came from Jedi invasion 3.0 i flashed everything back to stock jellybean for tmobile then i re-rooted and flashed P.A.C man (4.2.2) using clockwork also flashed Gapps 20130301 as well.
what did you need me to screenshot on betterbatterystats ?
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Start with everything. We will go from there. Let it idle for as long as possible so the stats are accurate.

re: posting
mt3g said:
Please stop posting that its only a good rom for developers... I used aosp type builds steady for 5 months except for when I worked in a certain job site and had to have WiFi calling, I restored right away as soon as possible. It might not be 100% stable but its good for a very very large community including some friends of mine who know close to nothing about phones or modding and devving. Those other ROMs are just opinion (not bad ones at all) and you aren't helping the op at all with his question that he asked.
T-Mobile SGS III
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I would think that posting our own opinions or suggestions in these forums can be helpful and are within the policies and
guidelines in these xda forums. (your opinions or suggestions are just as welcome and valid as mine or anyone elses) LOL

Let us see those Better battery stats bro
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chrisram88 said:
Let us see those Better battery stats bro
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This attachment right? or is it something else? it usually uses 15-30% battery power per hour depending what i use, i dont usually use applications a whole lot. Like today all i used was stock texting apollo and snapped a couple of pictures my phone was dead before my 4th period class

Now screenshot the cpu states. Your deep sleep slot should be the biggest one. If not a rogue app is keeping your phone awake.
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chrisram88 said:
Now screenshot the cpu states. Your deep sleep slot should be the biggest one. If not a rogue app is keeping your phone awake.
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this one right?

yeah my phone just burned me at 102 Fahrenheit anyone have any roms similair to pac man?

Select other then select cpu states. From unplugged or boot.
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chrisram88 said:
Select other then select cpu states. From unplugged or boot.
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this sucks a minute ago it jumped to 102 degrees i could barely hold the back

Mine gets to 106 its not rare lol, you have a rouge app some where eating battery I'm guessing. Cant tell much with the screens you provided. I suggest a factory reset and don't restore apps.
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mt3g said:
Mine gets to 106 its not rare lol, you have a rouge app some where eating battery I'm guessing. Cant tell much with the screens you provided. I suggest a factory reset and don't restore apps.
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I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it! LOL

Let me see partial and kernel wakelocks.

Yea like the rest say the temp is no biggie but that 38x mhz slot shows an app constantly running. It's 50% of your on time.
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[Q] Help choosing ROM for samsung galaxy w

Greetings, let me briefly explain my ROM related adventures.
I was sick and tired of the stock rom, it was slow and ugly.
I installed a Paranoid Android rom I found but it got stuck in a loop at boot and I was recomended to try another one that wasn't outdated.
I was recomended a PAC rom. It worked just fine, but it consumed a lot of RAM. Never having too much ram to spare the phone was extremely slow when accessing the store and other "heavy" actions.
Recently I installed the bionic cow rom I saw from the samsung galaxy w rom page but it reboots the phone spontaneously, I found in the thread of the rom that it has been discontinued and I should look for another one.
In sum, I need recomendations for a rom that is both light and good looking, any recomendations?
thanks.

Thaenor said:
Greetings, let me briefly explain my ROM related adventures.
I was sick and tired of the stock rom, it was slow and ugly.
I installed a Paranoid Android rom I found but it got stuck in a loop at boot and I was recomended to try another one that wasn't outdated.
I was recomended a PAC rom. It worked just fine, but it consumed a lot of RAM. Never having too much ram to spare the phone was extremely slow when accessing the store and other "heavy" actions.
Recently I installed the bionic cow rom I saw from the samsung galaxy w rom page but it reboots the phone spontaneously, I found in the thread of the rom that it has been discontinued and I should look for another one.
In sum, I need recomendations for a rom that is both light and good looking, any recomendations?
thanks.
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try liquidsmooth or xperia ui (for do037)

Thaenor said:
Greetings, let me briefly explain my ROM related adventures.
I was sick and tired of the stock rom, it was slow and ugly.
I installed a Paranoid Android rom I found but it got stuck in a loop at boot and I was recomended to try another one that wasn't outdated.
I was recomended a PAC rom. It worked just fine, but it consumed a lot of RAM. Never having too much ram to spare the phone was extremely slow when accessing the store and other "heavy" actions.
Recently I installed the bionic cow rom I saw from the samsung galaxy w rom page but it reboots the phone spontaneously, I found in the thread of the rom that it has been discontinued and I should look for another one.
In sum, I need recomendations for a rom that is both light and good looking, any recomendations?
thanks.
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cm9 final + honeyx/ hurtsky kernel

what about [ROM][ICS]OneOfAKind v26?
are u already try that rom?

Ahmed.ragab said:
try liquidsmooth or xperia ui (for do037)
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Can I trouble you to share links of threads with those ROM's.
I know my share of computers and programming and even a little of Android. I'm a bit "noob" on the topic of Kernels and other boosts alike.
I'm going to try and search for the mentioned threads/roms.
thanks.

Thaenor said:
Can I trouble you to share links of threads with those ROM's.
I know my share of computers and programming and even a little of Android. I'm a bit "noob" on the topic of Kernels and other boosts alike.
I'm going to try and search for the mentioned threads/roms.
thanks.
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for me the best rom for games , really smooth is , try like what dec0der said , CM9 EOL + hurtsky and use Row+Smartas$V6
really smooth and good on battery

redshift9 said:
for me the best rom for games , really smooth is , try like what dec0der said , CM9 EOL + hurtsky and use Row+Smartas$V6
really smooth and good on battery
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Can you translate that for me please? Like I said I don't have much knowledge behond the roms. I know CM9 EOL and hurtsky's kernel but what is Row+Row+Smartas$V6

thats the setting for performance
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Thaenor said:
Can I trouble you to share links of threads with those ROM's.
I know my share of computers and programming and even a little of Android. I'm a bit "noob" on the topic of Kernels and other boosts alike.
I'm going to try and search for the mentioned threads/roms.
thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2320609

Thaenor said:
Greetings, let me briefly explain my ROM related adventures.
I was sick and tired of the stock rom, it was slow and ugly.
I installed a Paranoid Android rom I found but it got stuck in a loop at boot and I was recomended to try another one that wasn't outdated.
I was recomended a PAC rom. It worked just fine, but it consumed a lot of RAM. Never having too much ram to spare the phone was extremely slow when accessing the store and other "heavy" actions.
Recently I installed the bionic cow rom I saw from the samsung galaxy w rom page but it reboots the phone spontaneously, I found in the thread of the rom that it has been discontinued and I should look for another one.
In sum, I need recomendations for a rom that is both light and good looking, any recomendations?
thanks.
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LINKS (if ur lazy enough to look for it! just kidding )
ROM:CyanogenMod 9 Final Release (EOL)
KERNEL: honeyx 7up 3.0.x HurtSky' Kernel V4.1
in flashing, follow the installation instructions carefully to avoid bricking ur device. nandroid back-up & pristine! goodluck!

ROM: Honami UI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378598
Kernel: Madridii 3.0.x (v3 original with371mb ram): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301504
Really nice ROM, runs sweetly and looks good. With Madridii kernel I am getting up to 2 days out of a charge using Smartassv2 as govenor and SIO as scheduler.
Do a pristine install for trouble free installation and useage.

hundred_miles_high said:
ROM: Honami UI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378598
Kernel: Madridii 3.0.x (v3 original with371mb ram): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301504
Really nice ROM, runs sweetly and looks good. With Madridii kernel I am getting up to 2 days out of a charge using Smartassv2 as govenor and SIO as scheduler.
Do a pristine install for trouble free installation and useage.
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and what about your usage ??
can you share your battery stats ?

Ahmed.ragab said:
and what about your usage ??
can you share your battery stats ?
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My usage would probably be best described as light to medium: few phone calls, some sms and mms, ebay, email, weather updates, some web browsing and some tunes (inc stream to DLNA devices), but no gaming at all. I don't use Seeder or Greenify.
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Please ignore the mobile network signal bar being too short as it has never worked properly for me since CM9 (randomly stops logging data) - but as you can see the phone wasn't in aeroplane mode as it has signal in the status bar and the wifi has been permanently switched on.

dec0der said:
LINKS (if ur lazy enough to look for it! just kidding )
ROM:CyanogenMod 9 Final Release (EOL)
KERNEL: honeyx 7up 3.0.x HurtSky' Kernel V4.1
in flashing, follow the installation instructions carefully to avoid bricking ur device. nandroid back-up & pristine! goodluck!
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I'm going to try this one.
It's not that I'm "lazy" to look for the links, I did look but I end up getting lost in the ROM descriptions since they get really technicall.
My next question would be "how the heck would I install a Kernel", a bit of Googling revealled a thread about it, I'll post it here in case someone else is reading this and looking for information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28042085
I'll post feedback on the ROM.

hundred_miles_high said:
My usage would probably be best described as light to medium: few phone calls, some sms and mms, ebay, email, weather updates, some web browsing and some tunes (inc stream to DLNA devices), but no gaming at all. I don't use Seeder or Greenify.
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Please ignore the mobile network signal bar being too short as it has never worked properly for me since CM9 (randomly stops logging data) - but as you can see the phone wasn't in aeroplane mode as it has signal in the status bar and the wifi has been permanently switched on.
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now I'm using this rom and madridi kernel but installing greenify
and will se the result

Thaenor said:
I'm going to try this one.
It's not that I'm "lazy" to look for the links, I did look but I end up getting lost in the ROM descriptions since they get really technicall.
My next question would be "how the heck would I install a Kernel", a bit of Googling revealled a thread about it, I'll post it here in case someone else is reading this and looking for information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28042085
I'll post feedback on the ROM.
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about installing the kernel, just read the 1st page of each kernel thread :good:

Feedback
Hey,
I installed CM9 with the kernel like was suggested here. I decided to post some feedback and news about the rom.
So far it's been neat. I'm getting the performance and battery saving like I did when I had the stock rom, but I have the look and feel of the ICS.
here's a screenshot of the battery saving, it lasted the whole weekend... weekend partly spent discovering the wonder of Pudding Monsters, I've gotten more addicted to that game (in that weekend) more than I'm proud to admit.
In spite of that, the battery last for a good 2 days before crashing. This without any battery saving app or greater care.
(I haven't spent as much time online as I used to, that might've also helped a bit)
There is only one annoyance... two actually:
. (as expected) in the camera, the zoom doesn't work. (I was told cameras don't work that well in custom ROM's, as longs as it takes pictures as is I'm happy enough)
. There doesn't seem to be a usb support. Before, when I plugged the phone to the computer there was a popup allowing me to open some usb mode and allowing file transfer between external and internal sd cards. Now it simply turns on usb debugging.
While this works fine on Windows, the OSX doesn't recognize the device. Thus I cannot plug the android to my mac anymore.
Any ideas for the second part?
PS: Just noticed that my tablet also can't be seen on my mac. This means it's not a ROM problem. After searching the usb options I noticed the Samsung has a "mass storage" option which I think may solve my problems. But the same does not go for my tablet.
My tablet is a Sony S unrooted with stock ROM. It only allows usb connection through MTP or PTP modes, neither works with OSX for some reason.

as far as i tested, you can use liquidsmooth or the newest build pacman for sgw :good:

Ok to upgrade OS on 3G galaxy tab 3 7.0 model?

Hi.
Sorry for the double post. Didn't get a response in other thread.
I have a galaxy tab 3 7 inch with 4.1.2. Is it a good idea to upgrade the OS? I'm worried it may affect performance negatively. I know that 4.3 included trim support which should improve performance but thought I'd check here.
Thanks in advance.

Which model is yours? t211, t210, t111, t110, etc...
Though it wont decrease performance anyways.

sscsps said:
Which model is yours? t211, t210, t111, t110, etc...
Though it wont decrease performance anyways.
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Thanks for replying. T211.

OMG!
the_new_mr said:
Thanks for replying. T211.
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And you are still using 4.1.2!!
upgrade to 4.4.2 and you can install Nolekat v1.1 over it, then install warewolf kernel v008, and then install gapps(whichever you like).
Then debloat it with any way you like.
works MUCH MUCH better then 4.1.2.
PM me if you wish some more explanation.

I'd like to stick with official roms if possible. I heard that it caused stability problems for someone with apps crashing frequently so trying to get some more info on what other people think.

the_new_mr said:
I'd like to stick with official roms if possible. I heard that it caused stability problems for someone with apps crashing frequently so trying to get some more info on what other people think.
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other people think its the best action to upgrade. its your choice if you wish to stay on 4.1.2 or upgrade to 4.4.2 and install some tweaks to improve performance. if you ask my opinion, I would recommend to install the nolekat1.1 and warewolf kernel and then debloat.
and if you still wish to stay on stock, thats fine enough, at least debloat the stock rom for faster performance.
personal experience, i could not use the stock system with whatsapp, hangouts and a few more apps installed and using those almost daily, as it would be so slow to open any app.
And now, i can certainly use my device. My battery drains like 20%(still have 80%) in the whole day with like 1 hour of talk time and 1 hour of general internet usage.
And for the apps crashing problem, i am not sure who told you that, but i have not experienced any app crash that SHOULD not happen.

Okay. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.