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Motorola s9 HD

So when are they set out to go on sale? I've seen them on different sites, but no release dates. Anybody know?

kareem9nba said:
So when are they set out to go on sale? I've seen them on different sites, but no release dates. Anybody know?
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I am anxiously awaiting this headset as well. I am debating between this and the Sony 980.

Go for the Sony ones. The Motorola ones are sometimes quite uncomfortable.

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So when are they set out to go on sale? I've seen them on different sites, but no release dates. Anybody know?
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just get a new s9 from ebay for £19.00 (just bought one at that price!) and install SRS Wow HD which seems to be the only difference between the s9 and the s9 hd........

Background noise
I wonder if the HD version fixed the awful background noise issue whenever you called that S9 had

Kraize92 said:
Go for the Sony ones. The Motorola ones are sometimes quite uncomfortable.
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I dunno, I've gotten kind of used to the unbearable ear pinching all 'round head throb. I'm sure the HD is much better. or not.
Actually, It's not too bad. I really do like the S9 better than a borg ear implant styles or the Jabra dog tag in spite of the fit.

Can anyone explain me the special features of Motorola HD version ?

waiting...
i'm hoping to test it out too..
currently i'm using plantronics 590A.. pretty awesome sound too. works well with my HTC Touch too.

malkeen said:
Can anyone explain me the special features of Motorola HD version ?
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1. SRS WOW HD technology (better sound ."3D" sound).
2. Better sweat/water resistence.
3. New covered buttons (easier to use sweat should not affect them).
4. Improved noise isolation (better at makeing and receiving phone calls).
5. I think it has a longer run time (not 100% sure.
6. Improved BT reception (less interfearence).
7. New ear buds (better seal aginst background noise).
8. There NOT red (ok, not a big deal. Flash just isn't my style).
I ordered the S9 before I saw the S9-HD where out. Just ordered that too. So I'll have them both in a few days. We'll see how it goes.
Anyone with real life expierence with the S9-HD?

RojasTKD said:
1. SRS WOW HD technology (better sound ."3D" sound).
2. Better sweat/water resistence.
3. New covered buttons (easier to use sweat should not affect them).
4. Improved noise isolation (better at makeing and receiving phone calls).
5. I think it has a longer run time (not 100% sure.
6. Improved BT reception (less interfearence).
7. New ear buds (better seal aginst background noise).
8. There NOT red (ok, not a big deal. Flash just isn't my style).
I ordered the S9 before I saw the S9-HD where out. Just ordered that too. So I'll have them both in a few days. We'll see how it goes.
Anyone with real life expierence with the S9-HD?
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Be sure to report how the HD compared and if they're really better in voice calls. I have the original S9's and had to buy a separate BT headset just for voice calls as I couldn't take the complaints from other callers about them hearing everything in the background apart from my voice.

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Be sure to report how the HD compared and if they're really better in voice calls. I have the original S9's and had to buy a separate BT headset just for voice calls as I couldn't take the complaints from other callers about them hearing everything in the background apart from my voice.
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The S9-HD should arrive in a day or two. I'll let you know how call work out.
I just got in the S9's I ordered before I know the S9-HD's where out and ordered those too.
I have to say the call quality is better than I expected from the S9's. Not as good as my regular BT headset (jawbone 2), butso far they seem to work fin inside my house. Even when sitting in front of the computer with the TV tuner running at normal or a little above normal listening level. I'm sure our side it would not work quite as well, but have yet to even try. My Jawbone will stay my everyday BT headset. The S9 and S9-HD will be for music and workouts/running.
I'll compare with the S9-HD's as soon as I get my hands on them (tomorrow, if I'm lucky... If not by MOnday for sure).

Ok folks, so I've had my S9-HDs for a about 1.5 wks now. For a point of reference I had the old S9s for about 1.5 yrs (went thru 4 pairs due to sweat issue).
So S9-HDs, they come with a new ear insert, they have a rubber "ring" around them. They come with two sets of those (mine appear to be identical size, was thinking one would be bigger than the other) and the old S9 inserts.
I have resorted to the old standard S9 type inserts. The buttons on the S9-HD are elevated or "bubbled" I believe this was directly due to the sweat issue with the old S9s. I'm guessing the moisture created the old S9 buttons to short out where as with the elevated/bubbled buttons on the new S9-HDs the buttons are not as flush meaning the water/sweat won't ruin the connectivity within the buttons (just my assumption)
I honestly liked the sound better in my old S9s...not impressed with the SRS WOW. I end up turning it off half the time, almost too much bass with not enough mid range or treble.
Only ended up using the bluetooth call capabilities for about 1 min with the wife calling me while at the gym. I have had a couple hard workouts with a lot of sweat and no issues with the buttons.
Hope this helps a bit, if you have any direct questions let me know and Ill try to test and respond for you.

Is there more than one setting for the SRS WOW? Which is probably why I prefer to have the SRS installed on the device and I can adjust the sound etc.
Really interested in how good they are for voice, especially for people listening in environments with a fair bit of ambient noise.
I don't think anything can rival the Jawbone 2's but would be nice to know if this is now nearer to an all in one solution.

Wam7 said:
Is there more than one setting for the SRS WOW? Which is probably why I prefer to have the SRS installed on the device and I can adjust the sound etc.
Really interested in how good they are for voice, especially for people listening in environments with a fair bit of ambient noise.
I don't think anything can rival the Jawbone 2's but would be nice to know if this is now nearer to an all in one solution.
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Will test on more voice calls...I have these for working out and golfing (Driving range). I use my jawbone when I use voice, except when I get calls while using the S9s.
As for the SRS it is either on or off...no variation or inbetween setting. I'm using it with the HTC Fuze which unfortunately the graphic equalizer only works with wired headphones the settings don't work with the S9s.

Still no S9-HD's... They should arrive by Monday, I hope.
I did go for my first Run with the S9's (a short 1 mile, it's been several month scene I've dome any running). The worked just fine. A couple of drop outs but very minor. I was very happy with them, and my controls still work. It was also a cool night and a short run so I didn't sweat like usual (LOTS).
I do worry about the "sweat and controls" issue. Trying to think of somethink that might help safeguard against this. I've thought about applying a small amount of silicone around the edges of the controls. Or perhaps some kind of coating to make it more sweat/water resistant. we'll see, anybe I should just not use there for excersize and keep the S9-HD for that.

OK have had my S9-HD for about 2 weeks or so now. Here are a few thoughts:
Voice calls:
Seems a little better than the S9's, but I would not use it as my only BT headset. The do a little better with background noise, but it can still be an issue. You'll want a good BT headset for dedicated voice calls. I called my voice mail with the radio on and with the S9's the radio overwhelmed my voice making my voice incomprehensible. With the S9-HD the radio made it difficult to hear me, but you could make out mu voice and get what I was saying. So it seem to be a bit of an improvement. Oh and the S9-HD give you stereo audio in phone calls now witch is a nice bonus.
Music:
They sound good, but I like the audio from my S9 better. I Think it sounds more detailed. It a subtle difference and might just be me, but I lean toward the S9 as far as my preferred unit for music listening. They both sound very good with my Tilt, in fact It they sound better with my Tilt than the new Samsung P2 MP3 play I bought for these. I should of just stuck with my Tilt for music.
Buttons:
As mentioned the S9-Hd's new buttons are raised. Personally I don't like them as much as the older S9's buttons. With the S9 you could feel the "hump" and go up or down to get to the function you want. With the New three "hump" design you have to feel around to make see witch hump you on (center? top? bottom?) before you can get to the function you want.
Now the main reason for me gettin the HD's is for their improved sweat resistance (wtch may be one reason the the three hump design). Don't know it there actually better. So far no problems with either, but will use the new one for running and the old one for non-physical activities.
If you plan on getting sweaty while using these or want a little more usable call function the S9-HD are a good option, if not stick with the S9 and save some cash.
I almost forgot. I love using the the S9/S9-HD with my slingbox. It really mke it much more enjoyable. It also works with Skype, though you do have some cut outs but no more than normal.

My review
I purchased the S9-HD's and have been playing with them for about a week now. I am using them with an HTC Fuze. I find that they pair easily, and work very well with the integrated music player in TouchFlo3D. However, they don't work as well with Windows Media Player Mobile, often when I hit the pause button, it starts playing the TouchFlo3D player instead of pausing Media Player, like it's given precedence to that app in the system.
I have always had a problem with the type of headphones that are springy/stiff plastic which hold them clamped onto your head, as they make my ears sore and painful after about 20-30 mins. I find that these phones also do this to me.
I like them, the overall quality is nice, sound quality is decent for BT (although not great) and they stay in better than earbuds. However, even with the smallest rubber earbud covers on them, they make the inside of my ear hurt from the pressure, both the inward pressure from the whole unit pressing in on my head from each side, and also the outward pressure of the earbud inside my ear, pressing out on my inner ear.
I find that I can wear them reasonably comfortably for around 20-30 mins and then I have to take a break. I think I just have a small ear opening because when wearing earplugs (motorcycling) I always have to go with the small soft kind, the "standard" yellow cylinder ones are painful to me.
But, they stay on great, something I hate about earbuds which always fall out. I think I might try the "dog tag" Jabra's as a second set, and sell the other. I really want to get rid of all cords, but the S9's are not the 100% solution for me.
If the darn Fuze had a 3.5mm jack none of this would be an issue! The giant adapter dongle they include is simply not acceptable, it's literally the length again of the whole phone!

Why don't you buy a little adapter? Check amazon.

Kraize said:
Why don't you buy a little adapter? Check amazon.
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Thanks man, didn't really even think to look for some reason, and there's like 20 different ones out there. cheers

headphones
is the SRS-wow already on when the unit is powered on?
i can't tell any difference between the two settings so i'm assuming its on when i power up.
i've had mine for a week...LOVE IT! can't compare it to anything else though. i'm trying to figure out if i like the bigger earbuds compared to the smaller ones they gave. both are a bit annoying after wearing for more than an hour but i read somwhere that one of them give better sound....again, not sure about differences....not really an audiophile.

Bluetooth Headphones w/ Mic

Hey guys, so I did a search and didnt seem to come up with a similar post. I'm looking for input on a pair of bluetooth headphones with a mic to pair to my streak. So far, I've found online two pairs that fit my needs, SONY DR-BT101 and SONY DR-BT140Q
I know there are tons out there but the reason I have selected these two is because they have controls ON the earpieces and because there is no extra "dongle" that the headphones plug into, I want to be able to just wear them and not have to fumble with another clip.
So my question to you is, anything else you can suggest, or any comments on the two I found above? Thanks in advance!

The LG HBS-250 is what I have and I like them just fine. They can be had for pretty cheap on Amazon right now too.
Two cons though that some people hate: The media controls are a little cramped all together, and they are not very stylish looking AT ALL.
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I have bought the Plantronics BackBeat 903 for 56$ from eBay. I have never regret this. Their quality is excellent for a bluetooth set. Battery lasts long...
Also have the control on the right earpiece.

I use Sony DR BT20NX , which are in the ear earphones.

I have not tried either model in your OP, but I did pick up the Motorola S10-HD. You never mentioned your desired use (around the house, working out, while commuting, etc), but these are perfect if you want to also use them while you're active.
I use them every time I go to the gym, sound great and they work perfect every time. LOVE never having to un-tangle cords anymore. I just flew with them on my last trip and listened to music on my Nexus One and watch movies on iPad and they were great. When I'm working on my laptop I'll use them for calls so I can type at the same time, and I'm told I sound almost as good as I do on my N1 (N1 with active noise cancellation sounds like a landline). They include 4 styles of ear buds for different shaped ears. The controls on the sides easily control volume, answer/end, play/pause/next/previous for the stock music app AND Pandora (except the "back" of course). The devices you pair them to have to have AVRCP of course.
Wall charger is MicroUSB, so I can also charge with with my N1 chargers and vice versa.
Those are the Pros.
Cons (to be fair):
-I have a slimmer head (7 1/2 hat size). If you have a larger head, you could still use them by flipping them upside down, but not for everyone.
-If you aren't sure if they'll fit, buy somewhere that'll let you return them. If they don't fit, you'll hate them: Obviously comfort but also since they're noise-isolating, if they don't fit they wont seal in your ear, and they wont sound good at all.
Pricing:
Average retail seems to be $79.99. Best Buy just raised their price on them $10 to $89.99 (BS i agree). However Best Buy DOES price match "brick-and-mortar" competitors, as well as Amazon.com (HAS to be "sold by and ships by" Amazon). They price matched the Motorola Friends and Family Sale (since their store is hosted by Amazon.com) for 60% off. Cost me $36 with tax. Stupid-good headphones for the money, no complaints at all.

i have the LG HBS-250 and its great

I want a good set of bluetooth earbuds. Would be great for activities so I can lay my phone down and not worry about damage.

Homido Virtual Reality Review !!!

Is it a pleasure to describe you this super amazing device.
Just few years ago a good virtual headset cost thousand of euro.Now with just 69 euro + a regular 5 inch fullhd smartphone probably you can achieve a better results.
At first thanks to a Samsung stand i discover this new economic way for VR and i was shoked for the Field of View 96 degree and the overall experience.
Samsung gear vr is not still in the market and actually would work just with note 4 so i tried to find an alternative.
At first i bough a really cheap vr headset.A sort of google cardboard made of plastic.And even if it was cheap with a small FOV gave me a pretty good sensation.
But nothing compare with the Samsung vr gear i tried in the mall plus the Color Cross were really unconfortable to wear and to adjust.
I did a great resarch and i find out this Homido ready to be buy with great features.
Design 5/5 Look like a cool snowboards glasses very cool wearable without feel like a nerd
Quality 4/5 Simple but very good material and great optic wich provide you a really immersive feeling with 100 fov basically is the same feeling i had with samsung vr gear.Fully adjustable very easy !!!
Comfort 5/5 If i told you color cross were a pain in the ass for more than 5 minutes Homido seems you can fall sleept with this one no problem even if you have a bige nose.Overall they are just comfort as wearing a snowboard mask...
Service 5/5 I ordered 5 for all my family for 69 each and i get in 5 days saturday and sunday included with no additional charge trought a very fast shipping from China to Florida US
Conclusion:AMAZING product wich work better than i expected.
Amazing for 360 stereoscopic vr video and let
tell you 3D compared with this technology is already the past.Now you feel inside de video.The future vs the past.Even the box is really nice .For sure i will buy more for Christmas if you don't try you can't really undestand the real power of this headset.With S4 best VR i ever tried
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I have went through the same exact experience as you when it comes to the whole VR thing. I have the color cross and imcardboard both foam and card board models. I also had the Oculus rift DK1. The Oculus Rift DK1 was able to show me what the future of vr was going to be like, but I sold it because of the nausea issues caused by bad reoslution and lag.
The color cross kills the bridge of my nose after a couple of minutes and the lenses are barely useable. Also cardboard pressed on your face from the actual cardboard models just kinda sucks. I ordered the Homido a couple of days and have seen very little posts about it. I am glad I found this post as it gives me some confidence that it might actually be useable.
It would be nice to get a decent VR experience in a portable package.

The Homido does not TRULY "fit" devices larger than 5" since the display is cut off all around the device. The view width is only 4.1" so no way a 5" wide display like the Note 4 will truly fit, since a large part of the display is cut off. There are posts and feedback about this and forces you to reduce the image size to not get cut off and this makes the resolution worse with an image already split into two smaller ones.
Very misleading for Homido to say it fits devices larger than 5" and hurts perception of the product. Homido should have made the frame bezel thinner to TRULY fit devices larger than 5" phones.

I;ve been using my Homido also on my Note 4, and i must say its not bad at all.
The one thing that makes me wonder is that movies look kinda bad... and not only SBS, but some good quality 1080p movies. I know that the screen simulation is really big... but still makes me wonder.
Anyone tested gear vr also ? I would love to know if it worths the extra money.
The support and variety of games is wider ofcourse, but anyone really tried both to tell us his opinion ?

Point is a lot of the display is cut off, so the image used to fit is smaller, so not using the optimum pixels for the best picture. Gear VR is better since uses the maximum the display can fit since zero cut off. Homido is a nice designed device constrained by the fact that phones need to be 5" diagonal or less to fully fit the view area.

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Anyone tested gear vr also ? I would love to know if it worths the extra money.
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I was able to find these two articles that talked about their experience watching movies on the Gear VR:
http://www.roadtovr.com/samsung-gear-vr-preview-oculus-cinema-watching-a-2-hour-movie/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2686...better-than-the-oculus-rift-in-some-ways.html
I demoed the Gear VR for the S6 at the local Samsung store and it was an unbelievable experience, although I could still see the screen door effect even with the S6's 577 dpi while watching a sample video.
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The one thing that makes me wonder is that movies look kinda bad... and not only SBS, but some good quality 1080p movies.
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I would love to get the Gear VR, but I don't have a Samsung phone, so now I'm learning towards the Homido; however, after reading your comments about watching movies on the Homido now I'm not so sure anymore. Were you able to improve the movie watching experience on the Homido?

Actually i sold it, was getting a lot of screen cut on my note 4 since Homidos opening aint as big as the note 4 screen.
I believe that the ideal for homido would be a 5" 1080p screen

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I believe that the ideal for homido would be a 5" 1080p screen
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From what I've read so far, you'd also want an OLED screen. Ideally, it should also have at least 500 dpi.

Anyone using the Fire Phone and a VR headset??

Last December I retired the Fire Phone because the wife dropped her and shattered the glass. We found the cost to repair it was more than it was worth.
That plus we had a problem with Straight Talk over billing us and they essentially telling us to suck on it, no refund. We dropped them like a flea bag hobo and went another carrier and upgraded to LG V10s.
Anyhow, my Fire phone has been gathering dust until the idea of using with a VR headset hit me.
Only issue was FireOS no support Google Cardboard.
Solution was Rooting and now it is running Cyanogen very nicely.
So, ANYONE out there using their Fire phone (4.7" screen) with a VR headset?
I looked online and there seem to be dozens of brands out there. I would just like to hear about anyone experience and with what brand.
Thanks

The problem you would run into is it's only a 720 display....the resolution wouldn't be sharp enough for a VR headset

Plonko said:
The problem you would run into is it's only a 720 display....the resolution wouldn't be sharp enough for a VR headset
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Aww, come on. We are not talking about a VR setup to compete with the Occulus Rift, or the HTC Vive. The headset is 25-30 bux for these.
Yeah, higher resolution would be idea of course, but this is a spare phone and there is no reason not to at least try it. My current live phone is a LG V10.
That has a huge display and high resolution. I will try this one also to see what it looks like.

I've been using my stock Fire Phone with Google Cardboard, it works fine, has some issues with 360 videos and Youtube but that problem was easily solved with a 3rd party youtube app. You can see the individual pixels, 720p works fine but it's not ideal. The performance is actually better than my old HTC One m7 which is 1080p. Cardboard is fine but it's nothing special and doesn't come with straps to secure it to your head, I'd recommend trying a different brand.

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I've been using my stock Fire Phone with Google Cardboard, it works fine, has some issues with 360 videos and Youtube but that problem was easily solved with a 3rd party youtube app. You can see the individual pixels, 720p works fine but it's not ideal. The performance is actually better than my old HTC One m7 which is 1080p. Cardboard is fine but it's nothing special and doesn't come with straps to secure it to your head, I'd recommend trying a different brand.
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Thanks for the reply.
I was able to try it this weekend on a generic VR headset. The make was VR BOX if that makes a difference. I saw 3 or 4 on Amazon the exact same thing with a different brand; anyhow, what I really dislike was the narrow field of view. I switch to my LG V10 and which was a big boost in image size, but still the field of view was bad.
You could see the phone at the left and right of the image. I would say the actual image size was about 60% of the view, and this will not provide anything near a nice VR experience. For 30 bux, what the heck. But it wasn't 30 bux worth. Sent it back for a refund.

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Thanks for the reply.
I was able to try it this weekend on a generic VR headset. The make was VR BOX if that makes a difference. I saw 3 or 4 on Amazon the exact same thing with a different brand; anyhow, what I really dislike was the narrow field of view. I switch to my LG V10 and which was a big boost in image size, but still the field of view was bad.
You couldn't see the phone at the left and right of the image. I would say the actual image size was about 60% of the view, and this will not provide anything near a nice VR experience. For 30 bux, what the heck. But it wasn't 30 bux worth. Sent it back for a refund.
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Yeah I probably should have mentioned in my response that the novelty of VR wore off very quickly and I never really use my Google Cardboard. If I hadn't gotten it for free I'd probably be trying to get a refund too.

Lordcoca said:
Yeah I probably should have mentioned in my response that the novelty of VR wore off very quickly and I never really use my Google Cardboard. If I hadn't gotten it for free I'd probably be trying to get a refund too.
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Yeah, have to agree; it is a gimick at best.
I have had much better "3d" viewing experiences watching a 3D movie.

Dr. Righteous said:
Yeah, have to agree; it is a gimick at best.
I have had much better "3d" viewing experiences watching a 3D movie.
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Guys please suggest me can I use vr cardboard with firephone?

Best vr headset?

What vr headset have you tried? Which one is the most comfortable? And which one fits the phone best?

Two things, #1 The OnePlus 3 isn't the best VR experience. The Full HD screen is sharp enough for your naked eye that you probably couldn't perceive the benefit of QHD. But in a VR headset its a different story, as they use magnifying lenses. The broad pixel zoom doesn't make for a great experience.
#2 Don't bother with the novelty, because the novelty is a broken experience, and doesn't represent what true VR experience is like. True VR gear costs hundreds of dollars for good reason. But on Android, its not full VR, its a gimmick. If you want to test a gimmick, you can pickup some chinese ones for $15-$20, because I guarantee you, even at $20, you're going to feel cheated, but you'd feel even worse if you bought a much more expensive set. Unless you're willing to commit to the $300-400+ VR gear, you're not going to get a very good experience anywhere.

Depends on what you are using it for. I use mine for media saved on my NAS. I'm using the VR Gear 2 release and it is definitely fine, not as good as my S7E with it but it works using BubbleUPNP and VAR'S VR great.
Tried a Leelbox as well and that is being returned. I expect they will add Daydream support down the line as that should be achievable by code.

I've got the OnePlus ANT VR headset that OP have always during promotion of OP3, and one DOMO Version 5(I think).
Both are good but both don't have any magnetic or touch control built in.Most apps usually have the "gaze to select" option so it doesn't bother me.
The experience is fluid but not that sharp, but it is very much viewable nonetheless.
I use it occasionally for some VR apps on store like Titans of space etc, and for some VR video content (¬‿¬) you know and it serves the purpose well.

Ordered MI VR Play today at flash sale....will give feedback once i recieve it

I might go for the Google daydream once we have 7 and there is a mod going about to enable daydream. I like how comfortable it looks and the little air controller is neat. Be a gimmick but fun little toy.

I put my vote on the cheap and nice Bobo Z4 vr headset, plus for having earphones built in and a button and volume wheel directly on the vr headset which allows you to control the vr experience without any external controller. Also it cost only about 20 bucks, so it's practically a steal, and available in two color styles.
http://s.aliexpress.com/AFfuMrYB

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+1 for bobo vr but gear vr 2017 controller is a big plus , but its five times more expensive

The new Google Daydream compatible motion controller bundled with Bobovr Z5 actually works quite well.
http://s.aliexpress.com/Iz6ZnUBZ
(from AliExpress Android)

Google Daydream V2 would be your best bet.