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what is every one using to control there favorite games

So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:

Onetearfalls said:
So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:
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I am mostly removing apps which are not working good with controller but would like to know how to get them going.
but there are quite a few application which are working too good with the controller.

Well considering Ouya goes retail at the end of this month they really need to start working on the controller issues. And clean out a lot of those games, half of them don't work and the ones that do really really need work on their controller. Also a really nice feature would be if I could hold down the Ouya button to have the option to turn off the console like Xbox and Ps3, I hate getting up to turn it off.

How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though

You would only need that app if the game doesn't natively support it.
If the developer has done a good job, then the PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers should work just fine.
For example, Bomb Squad natively "just works" with the standard Ouya controller, wireless and wired Xbox 360 controllers, and PS3 as well.
This weekend we played 6 player Bomb Squad (you can have up to EIGHT players on one TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!) with 2 Ouya controllers via BlueTooth, 2 off-brand USB wired Xbox 360 controllers, and 2 official MS wireless Xbox 360 controllers (connected via the Xbox 360 USB wireless adapter).
BTW, the adapter I am using for Xbox 360 wireless controllers is http://www.ebay.com/itm/370777929957?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
was like $11 and works great, also works on my PC.

Onetearfalls said:
you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though
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Nope, you just plug in the ps3 controller via usb and push the reset button on the back and/or the ps3 button. Bluetooth will get messed up and refuse to turn on. Shut down the Ouya by holding down the power button, unplug the controller, start it back up and all your Ouya and PS3 controllers will connect just fine (if it doesn't work right away, go into the menu to pair controllers and just hold down the ps3 button instead of the ouya button and it will connect). I use 2 Ouya controllers and 2 PS3 controllers.

Fire TV Game Controller not working in games

I have tired the controller with Sev Zero and Deus Ex. I have also tried an Xbox 360 controller. They work in the Fire TV menu, but not in any of the games. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? The only thing I can think of is that somehow the buttons got mapped funky when I mapped them for XBMC using FireTV Side App Installer.

I figured it out. For some reason the Xbox 360 Dongle was causing the problem. I still had it plugged into the USB port. Once I removed that and restarted, everything seemed to work with the fire TV game controller.

Logitech USB unifying dongle (I use it for mouse & keyboard) also causes issues with Amazon Fire TV game controller.
Game controller works in some game, and works limited or not at all in others.
Removing the unifying extension dongle (not needed in hindsight) fixes the issue.

My fire controller works in the Fire TV menu, but not in any of the games.
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[Q] Input lag with SNES emulator?

Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?

sTo0z said:
Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?
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I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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Excellent news, I'll give that a shot, thank you for the reply.

I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...

Fenix8452 said:
I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...
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Yah it's kind of strange... Other games seem to work just fine with the controller (and I kind of like the controller). Mostly have played the Sev Zero seems to work just fine with no input lag, felt like just playing any other system, but SNES 9x EX+ or whatever just didn't work well with it.
Hoping to try out the Receiver + 360 controllers today and verify no input lag as someone had suggested.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?

I have both the Nyko playpad and the Xbox 360 wireless receiever. I have noticed lag using both controllers (on most emulators). Playing around with the refresh rate settings in the emulator seemed to help some. Changing the refresh rate to 60 worked the best. Disabling any TV motion effect (120hz or greater) for your Fire TV input also helps, but I don' think the lag is completely eliminated. I'm interested to see if anyone else has ideas/input. It doesn't seem like a controller issue.
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I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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The 360 controller + receiver definitely improved for me over the Amazon game controller, but there is still a tiny bit.. I'll try messing around with some settings as well that were mentioned in this thread.
Super Mario World was way more playable though, with the 360 controller + receiver.

esdouble said:
I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters

barbedwiredave said:
I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters
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Interesting. My controller and dongle are both official microsoft products, but I don't have a hub. Is your hub powered? Also, what emulator? I'm mainly interested in SNES at the moment and am using SNES9x EX+

With my DS4 controller it will work beautifully for about 5 minutes then I would get massive input lag .. like minute delays making it absolutely useless .. it also makes my firetv remote useless .. as if the Bluetooth reciever is absolutely jammed up. I have to restart or disconnect controller and wait 5-10 minutes before I can use any bluetooth devices ... soo uhh if you have input lag maybe try a non bluetooth controller
Has anyone else experienced this?

Yep definitely lagging the system with the Xbox 360 dongle. I have to unplug the dongle to make the system stable again.

i have the same probleme here on Fire TV Stick with Bluetooth controller! Is there a workaround or any news??
Perhaps we could write a bugreport to amazon?

I also agree with esdouble, but the thinking of my way the RetroArch emulator is one of the best emulator.

I only came to this thread researching if the Amazon Fire TV controller was any better than my Stratus XL which constantly has input lag issues when playing SNES 9X on my Fire TV 3 Gen which I see is no better.

using a game controller for mouse functionality...

I am currently using the Sixaxis app with sony ps3 dualshock controller to control my fire tv - it works great - has support for home button, mouse mode and can be customized very well.
My only problem is that, the controller will not charge no matter what - from the fire tv directly, or when connected to pc, or from a wall charger.
The only way to charge it is to reset it (via the small pinhole in the back), or connect it to ps3 - this will make it lose the pairing with the fire tv and it will start charging again. I will have to set the bluetooth address again via the SixaxisPairTool from PC to get it to pair with the fire tv again.
My first question is - does the charging work for you after you have used the SixaxisPairTool from PC?
I also have a gamestop red samurai v2 controller. This pairs and works with the fire tv without any special app. However, misses mouse control.
I went through the threads here and understand that by creating a custom keyboard.kl file we can get the behavior we want for that controller. Can that idea be used to control mouse behavior as well? Any pointers would be welcome.
Thanks.

deepasadish said:
I am currently using the Sixaxis app with sony ps3 dualshock controller to control my fire tv - it works great - has support for home button, mouse mode and can be customized very well.
My only problem is that, the controller will not charge no matter what - from the fire tv directly, or when connected to pc, or from a wall charger.
The only way to charge it is to reset it (via the small pinhole in the back), or connect it to ps3 - this will make it lose the pairing with the fire tv and it will start charging again. I will have to set the bluetooth address again via the SixaxisPairTool from PC to get it to pair with the fire tv again.
My first question is - does the charging work for you after you have used the SixaxisPairTool from PC?
I also have a gamestop red samurai v2 controller. This pairs and works with the fire tv without any special app. However, misses mouse control.
I went through the threads here and understand that by creating a custom keyboard.kl file we can get the behavior we want for that controller. Can that idea be used to control mouse behavior as well? Any pointers would be welcome.
Thanks.
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hah, so you're here as well... I also have/had ps3 controller paired with sixaxis, but I haven't used it for a while and ATM does need to be charged with actual PS3.
So, to answer your question PS3 controller did work(charged via phone charger and xbox one usb) for me after it was paired with sixaxis for long time until eventually I stopped using it and then ran out of juice. Now it needs PS3 to charge again (maybe once), before I can reuse wall charger. Problem is, I don't have PS3 on me.

yep. the ps3 controller with sixaxis app works so beautifully with both regular apps and side loaded apps (that require mouse), it is a shame that it cannot be charged.
i have it setup such that the right analog is mouse (always in mouse mode), left analog is rew/ff/prev/next, d-pad is d-pad, L1 and R1 are left and right mouse, etc.
the problem is the sixaxis tool works only with sony ps3 controller. is there any other app like this that will do the same with any controller? thanks.

deepasadish said:
yep. the ps3 controller with sixaxis app works so beautifully with both regular apps and side loaded apps (that require mouse), it is a shame that it cannot be charged.
i have it setup such that the right analog is mouse (always in mouse mode), left analog is rew/ff/prev/next, d-pad is d-pad, L1 and R1 are left and right mouse, etc.
the problem is the sixaxis tool works only with sony ps3 controller. is there any other app like this that will do the same with any controller? thanks.
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well there are xbox 360 and xbox one controllers "how to" here, but I haven't tried them since both somewhat requires usb cable or dongle because they are not bluetooth based. and just repeating myself here, but ps3 controller does charge using other options and NOT ps3 only. BUT if it dies, then PS3 is required to recharge because you'll have to reset it.

ok. i am not sure why the charging does not work for me though. it won't even charge from PC once the SixAxisPairTool changes the mac address.
i saw the tincore app and i am planning to try it today with my gamestop controller.

How did you configure the sixaxis controller app? Whenever I try to connect the controller it never finds it even if i have the correct bluetooth address paired.

SUCCESS with tincore app. configuration is a bit difficult due to access via the fire tv remote and due to some menu items not showing up fully. however, once configured, the gamestop red samurai v2 remote works flawlessly - for necessary buttons as well as mouse.
i cannot get it to auto apply on restart and will investigate that later. for now, i am happy . thanks.

rfarina51 said:
How did you configure the sixaxis controller app? Whenever I try to connect the controller it never finds it even if i have the correct bluetooth address paired.
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not sure what you are missing, but you can try this:
1. start the sixaxis server in fire tv and get the bluetooth address from bottom left
2. use the SixaxisPairTool in PC to set that address on the controller (for good measure you can reset the controller first by the pinhole in the back)
3. now pressing the glass PS button on controller should pair it

Bluetooth Controller

Has anyone found or have any experience with a compatible Bluetooth gaming controller?

Yes they all are terrible on android unless rooted. PS4 Controller works nicely with an OTG Cable and a controller mount mod, for your phone to attach to your controller as if it were a dock.
Bluetoof is buggy and lags after 30 seconds.