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There are lots of myths regarding lithium batteries.. some say you are not supposed to overcharge it (charge it only when it's running out)
Some say it doesn't matter since lithium can be recharged as much as you want and it won't deteroriate the battery's life.
Which one? Can I recharge my Touch Pro 2 every night before I go to bed and leave it until morning? or should I do it when it's running out to preserve the battery's life?
You should keep the device on A/C power as much as possible. So, it's fine to charge daily overnight. Every once in a while, you should let the battery run all the way out before recharging. What this will do is keep your battery meter reading accurate. If you don't do this, eventually, your device will "think" it has more juice than it actually does.
Check this:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Ah thanks
So to cut the story short, recharge it as much as you can and prevent the battery ever from being run out
Nahhh, not fully true. Somewhere else on the site of batteryuniversity it sais that completely discharging the battery will reset it's memmory. This is usefull after a lot of charges and discharges (in the beginning, I think they already did this (you may hope).
(the memmory helps the battery know where his power is storaged and how much power the battery has left. But doing this frequent speeds up the battery 's lenght of life
In my experience
Enjoy your device and charge battery when needed/desired
Use it normal
Batteries have a duration of 3-4 years aprox, no matter if you charge it every night or leave it till it´s empty...
When battery fails you buy another one and so on
Just my opinion,
My experience with the battery life on my touch pro 2 is that I will keep the phone usually docked in my cradle on my desk when working so it's always on charge. When I use my battery I wait till it's about 40-30% drained and will stick it on the cradle again.
When I'm in my bed ready to sleep, I use the normal charger and leave it on charge over night.
Still experimenting though.
ilabstudios said:
My experience with the battery life on my touch pro 2 is that I will keep the phone usually docked in my cradle on my desk when working so it's always on charge. When I use my battery I wait till it's about 40-30% drained and will stick it on the cradle again.
When I'm in my bed ready to sleep, I use the normal charger and leave it on charge over night.
Still experimenting though.
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Do you have a cradle for your Rhodium ? Where did you get it ?
Check my battery thread, it will tell you pretty much everything about li-ion batteries and taking care of them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
quarintus said:
Nahhh, not fully true. Somewhere else on the site of batteryuniversity it sais that completely discharging the battery will reset it's memmory. This is usefull after a lot of charges and discharges (in the beginning, I think they already did this (you may hope).
(the memmory helps the battery know where his power is storaged and how much power the battery has left. But doing this frequent speeds up the battery 's lenght of life
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Hmm, first of all Li-ion batteries have NO MEMORY unlike NiCd batteries. You probably refer to resetting the reading gauge - which is related to device's capability of getting accurate reading rather than battery itself. It is recommended to let the device die once a month and give it a full charge to "recalibrate" phone's battery meter (not the battery).
But you should avoid hitting 100% battery mark as well as going bellow 30% as much as possible.
from my experience as a phone shop owner and owner of many many phones i always advise my customers and friends as follows:
1st charge 10-12 hrs. allow battery to fully discharge
2nd charge at least 8 hrs
after 2nd charge you can charge and use as you want. the initial 2 charges kick start everything and starts your battery cycle on good stead
never had any complaints!
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
danmb said:
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
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its ok to do that as it will run off ac power while plugged in
danmb said:
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
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The battery should be as cold as possible when charged. So if you are using the phone the battery power drains and is charged at the same time. Therefore it gets warmer than without.
Best for the battery is to be charged when the device is switched off completely.
I wouldn't consider that much of a problem, because you have bought the device to use it and not to live in fear that you treat the battery right
when plugged into USB and playing a game on my TP2 I got the message the device is using too much power, and it drained the battery even though recharging via USB. No problems when using AC adapter though.
Used my XDA Orbit 2 for 2 years now, and mostly charged at free will. Battery is still fine, so no special charging rules for me...
I noticed though, that charging over USB takes quite some time while charging over AC cable is done within an hour or so. When looking at my AC it has 5 Watts of output power, while the USB only has 2.5. That would explain your issue with the battery running out even when having the USB cable plugged in.
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Do you have a cradle for your Rhodium ? Where did you get it ?
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For anyone using Android 4.0, specifically running it as stock on this device, do you experience the same battery drain issues commonly seen in Gingerbread? You know the one where the process Android OS uses an ungodly amount of battery life through suspend and events/0?
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
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been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
removed from a 100% charge at 9:15am GMT
I own Nexus S too and experience the same, slow charging ... using the charger from Samsung (default).
So, I changed the charger and I use the one that came with the HTC Desire
And it is much faster, like 3 hours to go fully charged compared to more than 5 hours.
So, there you go, change your charger!
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
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I can usually get my nexus S to a full charge in an hour or two, depending on how empty I let it get. It's fast enough that if I've forgot to charge & need to go out a 20 minute blast will get me through the evening.
No idea who made the charger.. I've got a house full of the damned things these days
So what about life time?
Just check your chargers mA output, the higher the nr, the faster the charge. A computer USB port outputs 500mA wich gives a rather slow charge normal mA on chargers is around 700mA -> 1A. Keep in mind though that higher mA resulting in a faster charge puts more stress on your battery and it WILL get hotter, to high numbers can even damage your battery so be carefull and monitor your batterys temp when trying a new charger!
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7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
h9290 said:
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
removed from a 100% charge at 9:15am GMT
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h9290 said:
7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
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Wow! That sounds really really good tbh! Makes me really happy to hear :-D
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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As far as i know USB before 2.0 needed external power supply, meaning your device should not be able to charge from this type of USB. But to answer your question, no, you can not damage an electric device by undervoltage or lower Amps.
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Hope to get the GN soon.
Like to see and test how the charging is with different chargers.
Have seen slow charging ( also better hold out ) with different chargers.
My best charging is stil with the original desire ( charges quick and battery holds longer ).
Galaxy S plus is slow, wildefire also slow...
Had a Nexus 4 and I did the overnight charge,
Is it the same for the 5X with the rapid charge?
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Gary
There is not a better way to do it, you can rapid-charge it overnight, during the day, in you car, every 3 minutes with 10 minute pause or whenever you would like to.
For me, I use a normal charger overnight and the rapid charger when I need juice during the day or in the car, or when i forget to plug it overnight.
I remember reading on a reputable tech site about how lithium works, you can leave it overnight with no issues but they have a specific amount of charges in them. E.g. 500 charges for a battery and a charge will be counted anytime it goes above 80% etc. After 500 times, your battery should start to see degradation.
All the above figures are made up but that was the gist of the article i read, so don't worry about leaving your phone plugged in, the os will automatically limit the charge once it reaches 100%.
RedMaio said:
For me, I use a normal charger overnight and the rapid charger when I need juice during the day or in the car, or when i forget to plug it overnight.
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I do the same.
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Google's take on the subject:
Battery lifespan, charging & usage tips
Good charging practices and care can increase your battery's lifespan. Use the tips below to keep your battery healthy.
6 battery charging & care tips
1. Use the power adapter and charger that came with your device
Other chargers can charge slowly, not at all, or damage your device or battery.
2. Keep it cool
Avoid situations where your device can overheat. Your battery will drain much faster when it's hot, even if you're not using it, and this can even damage your battery. Keep in mind that your device warms up when it's plugged in, so try not to keep it charging all the time.
3. Don't worry about calibrating the battery
You don't need to teach your device how much capacity the battery has by going from totally charged to completely drained.
4. Keep it more than half charged
For the best battery lifespan, try to keep your battery charged above 50% as much as possible.
5. Try to charge a little at a time
Small charges throughout the day are best for battery health. Battery lifespan can suffer if it's charged from zero to full and then completely drained on a regular basis.
6. Store your device half charged
Leave the device with a half-full battery if it needs to be stored for a long time.
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Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
Headbanger1982 said:
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
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Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?
Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
For Battery Life is fine. This model dont have any fast charge or something similar. The charger included its fine and cant damage the battery.
Do not mix stanrdard fast charging (=being able to suck more than 1A from the charger) and QuickCharge (Qualcomm charging technology, involving e.g temporarily increase of charging voltage well above 5V and charging current well above 2A). A2 Lite is able to fast charge, just use Ampere or similar software and you see how much current it takes.
To the OP: I read that some custom kernels have this possibility, but no idea if any of few customs roms for our device has this capability. By using external software you can limit battery charge to e.g 80%, which would help a bit, or simply use one of old chargers, which could push around 500-700 mA max.
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
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I wondered about this too. If you're not in a hurry (say, charging overnight) then maybe the slower charge will ensure optimum battery life.
I find that using a long (2M), cheap charging cable prevents fast charge!
That's understandable because the electrical resistance will be higher than a short/quality cable, so limits the charging current.
anzhaki said:
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
bedencic said:
Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
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Accubattery only can warning you about the % charge, but still charging, to stop the charge needs root, since the control file is on system partition.