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Android port looking promising?

As far as compatibility goes, I was looking up the parts list for the Lumia 900 and found that virtually all of the parts are compatible and are in use with current android phones.
Part Model # Andriod support Android phone with part
Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 (APQ8055) YES (lots)
GPU Adreno 205 GPU YES HTC Desire S
Modem Qualcomm MDM9200 3G/4G YES HTC Vivid
Touch Atmel mXT224 touchscreen controller (MXT-N0K1 CCU-1R0 1G3818B) YES HTC EVO 4G
WiFi Broadcom BCM4329 (BCM4329EKUBG) YES (Cyanogen mod)
RF Tranciver Qualcomm QTR8600 (QTR8615L ACV313.0 H41470A7) YES HTC Thunderbolt
GSM/EDGE Avago ACPM-7868 YES Driod 4
USB SMSC USB2512B YES HTC Thunderbolt
All that needs to be done is accsess the bootloader and compile a kernal and grab the exstention from CM...

Sounds interesting, I'll be more glad to get work WP8 on Lumia 900.

An Android port sounds like an interesting science project but I agree that I'd rather see it get WP8.

That is, if we can get the bootloader unlocked.

well then, lets get started. The dev board for the lumia 900 is sad.

OK I see the Lumia 710's and Lumia 800's use a nokia bootloader and the Lumia 900's use a Qualcom boot loader. Is it similar to any other devices?

gbjohnson said:
OK I see the Lumia 710's and Lumia 800's use a nokia bootloader and the Lumia 900's use a Qualcom boot loader. Is it similar to any other devices?
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It's the other way, 710/800 use the Qualcomm and 900/newer 710 and 800 uses Nokia. Nokia bootloader isn't flashable at the moment, but I saw from another post that it is possible to flash the Qualcomm bootloader to 710. Maybe the same trick can be used also on the 900.

This thread lives in bizarro world.
There will be a WP8 port before Android. Porting is all about the boot loader and drivers - the real hardcore devs that can pull this stuff are (mostly) doing other stuff, like building CM10 and Linaro.

kenikh said:
This thread lives in bizarro world.
There will be a WP8 port before Android. Porting is all about the boot loader and drivers - the real hardcore devs that can pull this stuff are (mostly) doing other stuff, like building CM10 and Linaro.
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As you said, it is about drivers. Everything already has drivers for android. As far as windows the only things I see working would be the processor, and wifi. And ideally it looks like 2.3 would be a better hardware/software match. Although jelly bean looks interesting...

I don't doubt that it would be possible to make a kernel, but as of now, its impossible to bootstrap that kernel. Obviously someone needs to unlock this bootloader!

I agree with you. Priority is boot loader. The kernel will be a PITA. At least that opens the doors to custom WP roms.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587650
guys the thread for unlocked 710 and some 800
and every other things you'll need is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599401
Jump in if anyone has any ideas.

surya467 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587650
guys the thread for unlocked 710 and some 800
and every other things you'll need is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599401
Jump in if anyone has any ideas.
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Thanks, I was also looking at this thread.
How did you get the files in step 4?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721355

The bootloaders referenced in the above posts were on early release 710 and 800 devices. These phones were shipped with a Qualcomm diagnostic bootloader, either accidentally or because the secure Nokia bootloader wasn't yet ready. Either way, only 710 and 800 phones with the early Qualcomm bootloader are unlocked for flashing custom ROMs, which is a VERY small subset of devices. Nokia bootloaders are locked down tighter than a frog's ass.
The Qualcomm bootloader can apparently be flashed onto the 710, but cannot currently be flashed onto later 800 or 900 devices. The Nokia bootloader on these newer devices is locked against downgrades and there are no known exploits at this time.
As was said above, solve the bootloader problem first, then jump into kernel and driver development. Considering how much trouble the locked bootloaders on WP7 devices are giving some EXTREMELY capable devs, we are a long way away from unlocked bootloaders on these devices. It will take a lot more developer interest and involvement to get there.

So suppose that you could inject code (even an app) into a backup/restore in Tango, what would the result be.

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So suppose that you could inject code (even an app) into a backup/restore in Tango, what would the result be.
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Considering that Heathcliff74 has just now begun to understand how the code signing works for installed applications, modifying infrastructural code via injection seems pretty far off, too. We don't even know what the injection vector would look like, much less expect to try something and have success. Injecting code without knowing EXACTLY how to sign it would result in the OS code refusing to run. If you tried this with the bootloader, you might even brick the device.
Since no one other than Microsoft has access to the OS source code, doing this kind of work is exponentially more difficult (than Android, for example). And don't expect to have much luck decompiling code as complicated as an Operating System. CE is still pretty complicated and what's built on top of CE to make WP7 what it is...that's pretty gnarly, too.

And just for kicks has anyone checked if the lumia 710 + 800's nokia or qualcom boot loaders are similar to the 900's?

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And just for kicks has anyone checked if the lumia 710 + 800's nokia or qualcom boot loaders are similar to the 900's?
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I think that Heathcliff might have run a diff against the firmware package updates to the 900 when they last shipped, but didn't hear the outcome of his analysis.

kenikh said:
I think that Heathcliff might have run a diff against the firmware package updates to the 900 when they last shipped, but didn't hear the outcome of his analysis.
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I tried looking for an image to compare with, i found a 800's but nothing on the 900.

gbjohnson said:
I tried looking for an image to compare with, i found a 800's but nothing on the 900.
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I thought I had a 900 image from the second firmware update, but can't find it now. Must have deleted to save space on my (waaay too small) SSD.

[Q] HTC One M8 with Windows Phone

Hey guys,
Not sure if this has already been mentioned. Over the last few weeks, there have been rumours that Verizon in the US will be releasing a HTC One M8 running MS's Windows Phone. The Verge mentioned that the phone will be exactly the same as the Android version, the only difference being the software.
In the past, there was a project which worked to allow two versions of Android to run on an M7 device (HTC Sense and GPE), allowing the user to choose which version he/she wants to use at start up.
My question is this. Is it at all possible to have a One M8 running both Android and Windows Phone?

I guess you need to get a multi-rom going first...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782513

I really do hope they manage to pull this off.
The specs are basically identical, so there shouldn't be a reason why not - only exception is the on-screen softkeys, which as far as I know don't exist in a Windows Phone environment and might require actual physical buttons (or a clever workaround such as virtual keys presented onscreen and transmitted to the OS as physical keys).
I'll keep my eyes open for this. This could be the HD2 - Reborn!

Funny, I don't remember any physical keys on the front of my 1520. And with the release of the WP M8 coming soon, there won't even be a dedicated camera button either. Off course MS did relax those rules to allow more manufactures to build WP's.
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Oditius said:
Funny, I don't remember any physical keys on the front of my 1520. And with the release of the WP M8 coming soon, there won't even be a dedicated camera button either. Off course MS did relax those rules to allow more manufactures to build WP's.
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Been a while since I've seen a Windows Phone device, so I honestly wouldn't know ?
Good to hear the OS supports the framework.

WINDOWS MOBILE 10 on a Nexus 5X!

GUYS CHECK THIS!
WTF -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEgvXCsMu1c

Good

How?

fake
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Cool ?

dugu1248 said:
fake
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It's 100% real bro. Trust me. Its clever hacking.

I really wish that this is real!

Impossible
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I don't know why it can't be possible?
The Nexus X5 Qualcomm MSM8992 Soc is supported by Windows Mobile 10... and the drivers are part of the Nokia Lumia 950 FFU which can be downloaded on www.lumiafirmware.com. (Maybe this guy even has access to the Windows Mobile BSP pack for this SoC).
FFU file (signed or not) can be flashed on any phone to eMMC using the Qualcomm Firehose protocol.
Nexus X5 supports Secure Boot also.

TristanLeBoss said:
I don't know why it can't be possible?
The Nexus X5 Qualcomm MSM8992 Soc is supported by Windows Mobile 10... and the drivers are part of the Nokia Lumia 950 FFU which can be downloaded on www.lumiafirmware.com. (Maybe this guy even has access to the Windows Mobile BSP pack for this SoC).
FFU file (signed or not) can be flashed on any phone to eMMC using the Qualcomm Firehose protocol.
Nexus X5 supports Secure Boot also.
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Thank you so much for providing a logic to the nonsensical "fake-fake" battering. Just because people cant comprehend means it is not real. SHeesh..

TristanLeBoss said:
I don't know why it can't be possible?
The Nexus X5 Qualcomm MSM8992 Soc is supported by Windows Mobile 10... and the drivers are part of the Nokia Lumia 950 FFU which can be downloaded on www.lumiafirmware.com. (Maybe this guy even has access to the Windows Mobile BSP pack for this SoC).
FFU file (signed or not) can be flashed on any phone to eMMC using the Qualcomm Firehose protocol.
Nexus X5 supports Secure Boot also.
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Yes, you are right

X0LARIUM said:
Thank you so much for providing a logic to the nonsensical "fake-fake" battering. Just because people cant comprehend means it is not real. SHeesh..
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Yep, when people don't quickly find how it's done, they say it's fake; especially when they are aware of some (current) barriers that would prevent it from happening. Most of the time, they forget that other people can know/have things they don't have/know. They also forget that we move on by finding a way to jump over barriers.
But, also, unfortunately, people prefer to think it's fake to protect themselves from the frustration they will build because they would like to know how to do it and, unfortunately, most of the time, never will. On a forum, so many people come and say "yes, it possible: look", you are then excited to find out or try but, finally, the guy vanishes without giving any information on how to do it...

I think its fake

Something wrong with that video...
Hey guys, take a closer look on the video this was showcased..... First, the phone itself doesn't even have a Nexus branding on the back, and second, why is it running 10568??? That's strange....
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X0LARIUM said:
Thank you so much for providing a logic to the nonsensical "fake-fake" battering. Just because people cant comprehend means it is not real. SHeesh..
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That Video is fake as there is no TH build 10568.00 released

wouldnt say that, maybe based on an early version of the rom for the mi4

TristanLeBoss said:
Yep, when people don't quickly find how it's done, they say it's fake; especially when they are aware of some (current) barriers that would prevent it from happening. Most of the time, they forget that other people can know/have things they don't have/know. They also forget that we move on by finding a way to jump over barriers.
But, also, unfortunately, people prefer to think it's fake to protect themselves from the frustration they will build because they would like to know how to do it and, unfortunately, most of the time, never will. On a forum, so many people come and say "yes, it possible: look", you are then excited to find out or try but, finally, the guy vanishes without giving any information on how to do it...
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So who's game to try this with a 6p? Same soc as the 950xl...

nate0 said:
So who's game to try this with a 6p? Same soc as the 950xl...
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Any news on putting W10M on the N6P? I want to try this but not sure what firmware I should install. Any idea on what the product code is for the 950XL on AT&T in the USA?

TristanLeBoss said:
Yep, when people don't quickly find how it's done, they say it's fake; especially when they are aware of some (current) barriers that would prevent it from happening. Most of the time, they forget that other people can know/have things they don't have/know. They also forget that we move on by finding a way to jump over barriers.
But, also, unfortunately, people prefer to think it's fake to protect themselves from the frustration they will build because they would like to know how to do it and, unfortunately, most of the time, never will. On a forum, so many people come and say "yes, it possible: look", you are then excited to find out or try but, finally, the guy vanishes without giving any information on how to do it...
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So who's game to try this with a 6p? Same soc as the 950xl...
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yes its easy game for Nexus 6p if you found any windows 10 device that had same camera place that 6p had.
this video is pure fake by placing 950 single sim display panel cover with nexus 5x body covers,unfortunately it had same camera & flash light points of lumia 950.
even there are more evidence in video that itself says its fake :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

raghulive said:
yes its easy game for Nexus 6p if you found any windows 10 device that had same camera place that 6p had.
this video is pure fake by placing 950 single sim display panel cover with nexus 5x body covers,unfortunately it had same camera & flash light points of lumia 950.
even there are more evidence in video that itself says its fake :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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It is easy to say it is fake, if you are willing to limit what you want to believe or what you can do. Even if it is the point is to think outside of the box, and thanks for showing your side of the story.
I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I know nobody has proved a W10M port is not possible.

How to install cshell update

How to install cshell update on lumia 630.

hemanth3471 said:
How to install cshell update on lumia 630.
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Cshell is not released yet,it`s coming soon :good:

fadilfadz said:
Cshell is not released yet,it`s coming soon :good:
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an another big update? YES!!!!!!!!

That build was an accidental push more than several months in the past I believe. So unless Microsoft accidentally opens the flood gates again, you will never see it. There is only one device that I know of was capable of running that test build that was accidentally pushed and it was the Elite X3. All other models that I heard of that were able to accidentally start downloading that update either boot looped or had to back out of the update using a work around Microsoft shared.

I have an Elite X3. Is it possible to install it?

Wait for them to release Surface Phone. Then may be, with registry edits, we will be able to install it on our phones. The Elite X3 just seems to be a test device.

fadilfadz said:
Cshell is not released yet,it`s coming soon :good:
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No, it's not going to come. Windows Mobile is only going to receive limited support going forward. What you saw was something that regrettably leaked due to a bug related to flighting.
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That build was an accidental push more than several months in the past I believe. So unless Microsoft accidentally opens the flood gates again, you will never see it. There is only one device that I know of was capable of running that test build that was accidentally pushed and it was the Elite X3. All other models that I heard of that were able to accidentally start downloading that update either boot looped or had to back out of the update using a work around Microsoft shared.
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The device model is of no importance. If you take your time and scour the internet you'll find it running on other devices too
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Ani64 said:
Wait for them to release Surface Phone. Then may be, with registry edits, we will be able to install it on our phones. The Elite X3 just seems to be a test device.
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> Registry edits.
Seriously? You're one of these people that have no idea what they're actually doing and just hope to find someone else's work and apply it. You will not be able to install it, especially not with "Registry edits".
Also, ignoring the cringy Surface Phone BS, that magic phone wouldn't run a 32-Bit version of Windows anyways, which the Elite x3 does. So good luck with getting that to run.

Shad0wKn1ght93 said:
The device model is of no importance. If you take your time and scour the internet you'll find it running on other devices too
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Ya, well I kinda figured that might be a possibility. Kinda cool to know...
I knew folks who boot looped IDOL 4s phones, Lumia x50 series phones, and older phones too. So I guess a better answer would have been that the Elite X3 survived the update better than others did

nate0 said:
Ya, well I kinda figured that might be a possibility. Kinda cool to know...
I knew folks who boot looped IDOL 4s phones, Lumia x50 series phones, and older phones too. So I guess a better answer would have been that the Elite X3 survived the update better than others did
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Let time tell the rest......Even older phones like Lumia 1020 were capable to remain supported but didn't. I don't believe that guy at MS

@Ani64
I hear ya. The classic 1520 runs better than half of the x50 line of devices while on the latest build. Itself 4 yrs old now.

Closing.
CShell isn't coming for Windows Mobile.
If by some rare stroke of immaculate luck Microsoft goes "You know what? Let's make it happen!", contact me and I will re-open

Android porting

Hi to everyone,
I took back my old lumia 950 and I noticed that windows 10 mobile is getting much worst then before; casual restart after unlocking the screen, ms edge which freeze some web pages, slow app etc etc...
So I was wondering if someone around has tried to boot android on the lumia 950/XL, I think that should be very nice to have a working os like android on this phone since the specs are still not bed even in 2018
Thank you

Not being a Negative Nancy here; but until Microsoft does reveal the hardware's inner workings (code and stuff), it's a pipe dream to put Android in it.
Plus, a similar question has been asked for a (different?) W10M device here in the forums. That's how I know it can't be done.
What I suggest is: Enjoy your Lumia for what it is now (reset it if it doesn't work properly, BTW); and if you really need Android, go get another phone.
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mterencelao said:
Not being a Negative Nancy here; but until Microsoft does reveal the hardware's inner workings (code and stuff), it's a pipe dream to put Android in it.
Plus, a similar question has been asked for a (different?) W10M device here in the forums. That's how I know it can't be done.
What I suggest is: Enjoy your Lumia for what it is now (reset it if it doesn't work properly, BTW); and if you really need Android, go get another phone.
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Currently I have also an android phone but it will be nice to have a second phone. ok I asked for an android custom rom but I mean also another custom rom should be fine (etc based on windows 10 mobile), just to let these amazing phones to run properly.
After the last update the lumia 950 is sooooo slow and I also performed an hard reset but same performance... unfortunately