I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed. Play store now working fine, can update and install software like before. Need to test some of the other bugs but at least I have a working Play store now on the latest version of the Fire OS.
Google Maps still not working for me now, just clocks trying to load location like before. My guess is they need to update the apps that have dependencies on the Play services to fix these bugs. Maybe the fix cant all be done in Play services.
Just an update. So far it seems that this version of the Play Store does not force an update to Play services when opened. I deleted the latest version of Play services and reinstalled the older version, and after several hours of going back into the Play store it has not updated. Now Maps and Pandora are back to working fine. So far everything is working and back to normal for me.
Xyth said:
I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed. Play store now working fine, can update and install software like before. Need to test some of the other bugs but at least I have a working Play store now on the latest version of the Fire OS.
Google Maps still not working for me now, just clocks trying to load location like before. My guess is they need to update the apps that have dependencies on the Play services to fix these bugs. Maybe the fix cant all be done in Play services.
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Hi Xyth,
Thanks for the information and partial fix!
I currently have apparently the lalest Google-Play-Store v5.4.12 installed in both of my Fire Phones, and you said:
"I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed"
Do you men, that we have to use the latest "buggy" Google-Play-Services v7.3.29 with the Google-Play-Store v4.6.17 an older version?
Please Could you post, if available, the download links of both files?
Sorry for the confusion. I found that using an older version of the Play Store (4.6.17) and the older version of Play Services (7.0.99) together seems stable and is not auto updating either version when using the Play Store. In the past, it always seemed to update both the Play store and the services when I used the store.
Sorry, i do not have an account to link the files, but they are linked in other threads on this forum.
Have u restarted ur phone to see if that did anything?
I have not rebooted if that's what you mean. I wanted to see if it remained stable for at least a day. I will reboot tomorrow and report.
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I have not rebooted if that's what you mean. I wanted to see if it remained stable for at least a day. I will reboot tomorrow and report.
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Please Xyth, let us know tomorrow how it works, after you reboot and restart again the Fire-Phone?
ulises.rodriguez said:
Please Xyth, let us know tomorrow how it works, after you reboot and restart again the Fire-Phone?
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This combination survived a reboot
I rebooted and waited a while to see if anything was auto updated. No updates happened so it seems this combination is stable across reboots. Play Store can be used to install and update applications without Play services being updated.
At this point I don't have any issue with any applications I use not working properly, but I don't use Hangouts and others that might not like this combination. At least for now, The upgrade the android 4.4.4 is complete and stable. If anything changes I will post.
Again, the files used are:
1. com.google.android.gms version 7.0.99 (7099036) aka Google Play services
2. Google Play Store.apk version 4.6.17
Both should be available on this forum as that's where I got them. After work I can see if I can located them. I hope others can replicate this on their phone.
Hangouts is the one probably
Hi,
I have tried to not start Hangouts, and this keeps the play services from being updated.
Even though the play store got updated to the latest version it seems to work fine to install all new apps or update apps
The play services seems to stay at 7.0.99.
I tried to play with it .. if I open hangouts that is when the play services get updated and have to redo the uninstall install to get things working again.
IMO hangouts is the one which needs the updated play services and forces the update.
May be someone else can try and confirm this.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-036-android-apk-download/
That is the link for Google Play Services 7.0.99.
ractar28 said:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-036-android-apk-download/
That is the link for Google Play Services 7.0.99.
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And the link for the version 4.6.17 of Play store can be found here: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=73036323a69e3cf1&id=73036323A69E3CF1!1484&ithint=folder,.apk&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q
Its been about 18 hours and so far neither Play store nor Play services have auto updated despite using play store 20+ times and a reboot. Seems very stable.
So just to confirm, you had the accounts manager and frameworks already and left them alone...then u uninstalled services and the play store and installed those two files you pointed to. First services and then play store. What Google apps do you currently use? I do use hangouts but I will avoid it to try your process.
Here's what I did to get the only app I cared about, which was Clash of Clans (which was stuck at a black screen upon opening since play store update):
Uninstall all Google stuff: the account manager, services framework, play services, play store, and clash of clans
Go through the usual process:
1. Install Account Manager
2. Framework
3. Play Services
4. Play Store
5. Open Play store, sign in, download clash of clans
6. Open clash of clans, it tells me I need to update play services
7. follow prompt, download and update play services
8. re-open clash of clans, connect to my account, download village
9. go out, uninstall play services, then install the 7.0.99 version from this thread
10. immediately uninstall play store and then when I opened clash, it still works
11. I tried rebooting phone to make sure it would still work. It still does.
12. cross fingers and hope it'll work forever.. I have vowed to not install the play store until it play services gets fixed
13. I have noticed in clash, I'm not connected to google+ or facebook, and I plan on leaving it this way
14. I have bluestacks and clash installed on my pc, and I noticed both pc and firephone villages are linked together and will update/save village everytime I play, which tells me firephone clash is still saving my data to the cloud
Hope this helps, if something breaks, I'll post followup
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And the link for the version 4.6.17 of Play store can be found here: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=73036323a69e3cf1&id=73036323A69E3CF1!1484&ithint=folder,.apk&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q
Its been about 18 hours and so far neither Play store nor Play services have auto updated despite using play store 20+ times and a reboot. Seems very stable.
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I used ur files without using hangouts and it still updated. Not sure if it's cuz my phone connected to WiFi at some point...
I haven't had google play services update on me for the day. I'm using the newest play store with the working version of services installed. I was able to log into Google+ for clash of clans and other apps work properly now. I made sure I had hangouts uninstalled before I did any reinstallation because that seems to be the main culprit which updates services.
Don't install hangouts and don't open the play store after reinstalling services and everything should be working, until something forces an update
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I used ur files without using hangouts and it still updated. Not sure if it's cuz my phone connected to WiFi at some point...
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Did you have play store installed when it updated?
I tried using the older versions of both play services and play store as mentioned in this post but both got updated in spite of having auto updates turned off. Thinking of getting new phones for me and my wife. We can't stand the amazon fire os ecosystem and can't afford to not have Google apps or services. (Feel bad being a hostage but that's the truth)
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I tried using the older versions of both play services and play store as mentioned in this post but both got updated in spite of having auto updates turned off. Thinking of getting new phones for me and my wife. We can't stand the amazon fire os ecosystem and can't afford to not have Google apps or services. (Feel bad being a hostage but that's the truth)
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Well for the most part, once you install Nova Launcher (or launcher of choosing) and Google Apps, it isn't really much different from any other manufacture-skinned Android. But yeah not being able to reliably use Google Apps is pretty terrible. Especially if you're using a Fire Phone on a data-only plan and a GV # with Hangouts. Well I guess forwarding calls to another # like Talkatone might have to work for now.
Not sure if this is the reason my Play Store and Play services don't auto update when I open the play store but I have "allow non Amazon app installation" turned off. Makes sense if the play store made a request for and update that the Fire OS would block it with this option toggled.
Xyth said:
Not sure if this is the reason my Play Store and Play services don't auto update when I open the play store but I have "allow non Amazon app installation" turned off. Makes sense if the play store made a request for and update that the Fire OS would block it with this option toggled.
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Ok I'm 4 hours in running this way and still good. Running hangouts also.
Update... spoke too soon. It's down now.
Got my device rooted, and I installed all of the google app services. I am able to launch the play store, but when I try to launch the google play music, it just sits at the orange logo screen and hangs. I am logged in on my google account on the play store.
Anyone have any advice?
I had the same issues with Google Music (as a sideload using Apps2Fire on my Android phone).
BTW, how did you get Google Play? I tried to install the APKs for a Fire pad/ Fire phone. Didn't work.
Do you have a link to the instruction set?.....
I don't know what happened but a few days ago Google Play Services stopped working. Now apps like Grab throw the error "Google Play services are updating" and Google Home won't work because the account list is tied to Play services. I've tried clearing cache, uninstalling updates for Play services but nothing is working. On C636 patch.
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I don't know what happened but a few days ago Google Play Services stopped working. Now apps like Grab throw the error "Google Play services are updating" and Google Home won't work because the account list is tied to Play services. I've tried clearing cache, uninstalling updates for Play services but nothing is working. On C636 patch.
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Was getting something similar, but it's affecting in-app items that depend on google play services, like maps and locatons. Just shows " Google Play Services are updating". Started roughly a week ago. Apparently it's an issue with Maps being affected on Huawei / Honor devices. Seems we'll be getting a fix in a few weeks.
For some reason after connecting to my lg phone and my Sony smartwatch 3... my Google play store (on my phone) wont connect to the Play store. Its a bare bones wireframe of the Google play store but the store itself seems to show the Play store but only the wearables headings. Not the actual Play store... i hope thats not too confusing...any help is much appreciated!!! xoxo
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For some reason after connecting to my lg phone and my Sony smartwatch 3... my Google play store (on my phone) wont connect to the Play store. Its a bare bones wireframe of the Google play store but the store itself seems to show the Play store but only the wearables headings. Not the actual Play store... i hope thats not too confusing...any help is much appreciated!!! xoxo
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Clean cache on play store and Google play services app.
Restart your phone.
If problem comes back try install an older version of wearos app. I am using version 2.7.0.177
Is it all working fine now
Hello, hoping someone has a recommendation:
I have a new latest generation Kindle Fire 8 Plus (9th?).
I did not root it, I just installed the 4 .apks needed to add the Google play store.
The installation went smoothly and I am logged into my Google account in the Play store, and I have used it to install several apps. However I'm running into two issues:
1) Google Chat downloads and says it's installed, but still not open. (Google chat work around is to use it through the gmail app-this works fine).
2) A game called Rise of Cultures works but to synchronize with game progress on other devices, requires to "Connect with Google Play". Every time I try to connect it, it says "account connect failed, try to connect at a later time."
Any ideas? Would rooting help? I didn't use the Kindle Toolbox because I only wanted the Google play store while retaining the Amazon skin since the primary use for this devices is to browse and buy Kindle books. Other Google apps seem to be able to sign into my Google account without any problems...
Any tips are appreciated!
Have you tried to wipe the application data with which there are problems?
Thanks, that was a good suggestion but it didn't work, still same issue.
If it is possible uninstall the google store and services (or restore to the factory version) and install older versions of the google store and services from apkmirror.