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I just read the article here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-tethering-if-you-ever-had-it-to-begin-with/
I am on tmobile prepaid plan and use the tether once in a while. But I absolutely would not pay extra to pay for tethering my own data that I already paid for.
it shouldn't unless you decide to install their version of ics
I'm going to quote my own G+ post on these one:
All phones that T-Mobile has released since the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy S II have had a separate APN built in to their tethering that automatically flags your device as tethering. This includes the new LG MyTouch devices, the HTC Radar, etc. ALL phones released for the last 6 months. This has been the status quo for a long time, and for some reason everyone is throwing a fit now that the new software for the Sensation is doing exactly the same thing that all of these other phones have been doing since they were released.
Also, several of these articles state that T-Mobile is using some kind of sinister monitoring methods on your data traffic in order to determine that you are tethering. This is not true. It is being done in a very similar way to how I understand the iPhone has reported tethering to carriers for a long time, by using a completely separate tethering APN instead of the customary data APN typically used for T-Mobile handsets. This is why on some newer devices if you enabled tethering and then tried to browse on your handset it would either fail or send you to a upsell that would ask you to purchase tethering, because it is flagged as completely different traffic.
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This is a software change handled on each device. It has little to do with the network outside of the network authorizing the tethering APN from the newer handsets when the tethering option has been enabled. It is possible that T-Mobile may be passively monitoring user agent strings to 'detect' tethering, however, this is a very unreliable method for them to use as using the desktop user agent option in your browser would trigger that. AT&T appears to do this, but to my knowledge, T-Mobile does not. At least not presently. However, some users have reported they are being given the tethering upsell when using desktop user agents, so I could easily be wrong.
Personally, I don't believe that this is the correct thing for carriers to do, as long as you aren't going over you data limit. I believe that you should be able to use your data limit how you see fit, whether the traffic is coming from your phone or through tethering. For me, this kind of nonsense is exactly the same as ISPs using QOS to throttle bandwidth for competing services, such as, theoretically, if Comcast were to throttle Netflix traffic. Unfortunately, my voice alone isn't going to change the status quo, and carriers in the US have decided that charging for tethering is the new way to make a profit.
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No. This will not affect the GN in any way, nor is this a new development. This policy for new devices / software for T-Mobile phones has been in place for around for 6 months and is a software 'feature'. Also, that article is poorly written and researched in general, as well as the horde of other bad articles in the past couple of days over this so-called 'revelation'.
lettcco said:
I just read the article here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-tethering-if-you-ever-had-it-to-begin-with/
I am on tmobile prepaid plan and use the tether once in a while. But I absolutely would not pay extra to pay for tethering my own data that I already paid for.
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The only reason they can block it on their own devices is because they control the final software. T-Mobile doesn't control the software on the Galaxy Nexus.
That being said, T-Mobile attempts to "block" tethering on unlocked/unbranded devices by sniffing UAstring of your browser and redirecting you to their tethering upsell page if they notice you're on a desktop browser (they're assuming you're tethered to a desktop). I'm going to save myself some time and not elaborate on this. It's how they do it and it's all over the internet in XDA and other places.
Its a horrible policy that many people have been fighting with for a long time now. Not only does it not work stopping any moderately sophisticated user on their desktop (because spoofing is SO easy), but it inadvertently "blocks" anyone trying to request desktop sites on their phones. Many browsers (especially Chrome Beta for Android) by default browse in desktop mode (or let you easily request desktop sites), and get redirected inadvertently.
Long story short, the UAstring sniffing method is starting to redirect Chrome Beta for Android users (including myself), as it has nearly an identical UAstring to desktop Chrome. They're currently "working to resolve this issue" which may mean a change in the way they try to detect tethering. More than likely they'll keep doing it they way they are and will come up with a workaround for Chrome for Android. Either way they have to figure it out, as they're selling ICS 4.0 devices that use Chrome for Android now.
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cade80 said:
it shouldn't unless you decide to install their version of ics
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T-Mobile doesn't have a "version" of ICS. Especially not for the GNex
Thanks all for the insightful comments.
Same of custom GB breads, or any custom on phones in general. Tethered on my G2x all the time on CM7 with no problems at all.
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The only reason they can block it on their own devices is because they control the final software. T-Mobile doesn't control the software on the Galaxy Nexus.
That being said, T-Mobile attempts to "block" tethering on unlocked/unbranded devices by sniffing UAstring of your browser and redirecting you to their tethering upsell page if they notice you're on a desktop browser (they're assuming you're tethered to a desktop). I'm going to save myself some time and not elaborate on this. It's how they do it and it's all over the internet in XDA and other places.
Its a horrible policy that many people have been fighting with for a long time now. Not only does it not work stopping any moderately sophisticated user on their desktop (because spoofing is SO easy), but it inadvertently "blocks" anyone trying to request desktop sites on their phones. Many browsers (especially Chrome Beta for Android) by default browse in desktop mode (or let you easily request desktop sites), and get redirected inadvertently.
Long story short, the UAstring sniffing method is starting to redirect Chrome Beta for Android users (including myself), as it has nearly an identical UAstring to desktop Chrome. They're currently "working to resolve this issue" which may mean a change in the way they try to detect tethering. More than likely they'll keep doing it they way they are and will come up with a workaround for Chrome for Android. Either way they have to figure it out, as they're selling ICS 4.0 devices that use Chrome for Android now.
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T-Mobile doesn't have a "version" of ICS. Especially not for the GNex
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overriding the user agent in chrome doesn't seem to help. strange.
i was tethering for about an hour just now and the redirect page just popped up.
I ran into the same problem today. After coming really close to paying the $12/month to use the data I'm already paying for, I decided to come here and ask for help. I got 2 solutions.
1. Change the user agent for my browser. Once I did this it was surfing as usual with the built in tethering app. Only problem is Netflix isn't supported by android2.2 browser.
2. PDA net, I read somewhere that a it hides what type of traffic. It seems to work. No restrictions, no redirects.
I'm going to stick with the second alternative because it behaves the way I'm used to.
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overriding the user agent in chrome doesn't seem to help. strange.
i was tethering for about an hour just now and the redirect page just popped up.
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yeah once they've flagged you it's hard to get around it on the phone.
Ironzey said:
I ran into the same problem today. After coming really close to paying the $12/month to use the data I'm already paying for, I decided to come here and ask for help. I got 2 solutions.
1. Change the user agent for my browser. Once I did this it was surfing as usual with the built in tethering app. Only problem is Netflix isn't supported by android2.2 browser.
2. PDA net, I read somewhere that a it hides what type of traffic. It seems to work. No restrictions, no redirects.
I'm going to stick with the second alternative because it behaves the way I'm used to.
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PDAnet should work, but T-Mobile filtering and checking for UAstring can potentially get around this. Depending on how PDAnet tries to "hide" or change your final connection you may be successful.
It happened to me as well. I was using Chrome on OSX but after the redirect page started manifesting itself, I wondered if it would be the same with all browsers. I tested Safari and no redirect page
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So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
If you were to have a tethering app on your phone (and of course, you don't), what would it be? i.e., if AT&T can detect certain apps, what, do you suppose (without admitting anything incriminating), are the apps they're talking about?
I can't imagine they'd be crazy enough to surreptitiously audit the content of a subscriber's phone, and then tacitly admit to it with this sort of inquiry. But I could imagine that they can detect tethering "signatures" via snooping network traffic. For example, if you tether to a PC and use that to browse the internet, the user agent will look different than when the phone's browser is being used. Or if you left a tethering session running and they saw your phone pulling down updates for Microsoft Windows, that'd sure be a dead giveaway. There's little if any reason to pull anything off Windows Update with a phone. They could maybe get away with detecting that sort of thing since they wouldn't be looking at data content, just whether or not the data source was consistent with a smartphone or not...
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So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
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Are you on stock AT&T rom?
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While I hope for their own sake that they aren't auditing software on the devices, I suppose they could be watching what people download. For instance, some tethering apps are just not available in the Play store if you are coming from AT&T or Sprint. I could see that perhaps in one of the many TOS agreements I clicked OK on without reading there was something that said they could sniff around my phone.
I assumed they would be looking at traffic, but after being quite vague over and over again, she was very specific about a tethering app. Agreed that as soon as a PC goes online it creates all kinds of traffic that wouldn't look like a smart phone.
I am using the stock / not rooted AT&T ROM at this point. I normally root right away, but I haven't really had a need on this one.
I would root and use a different ROM if I felt like it would keep their noses out of my junk. Even if I was tethering, I'm not using a crazy amount of data so I find the whole thing pretty silly.
Now I am thinking that if they do change my tethering plan without my permission, I have to assume that I can break my contract if I want and move elsewhere. Just not sure where I could get another Note II with unlimited data at a decent price.
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While I hope for their own sake that they aren't auditing software on the devices, I suppose they could be watching what people download. For instance, some tethering apps are just not available in the Play store if you are coming from AT&T or Sprint. I could see that perhaps in one of the many TOS agreements I clicked OK on without reading there was something that said they could sniff around my phone.
I assumed they would be looking at traffic, but after being quite vague over and over again, she was very specific about a tethering app. Agreed that as soon as a PC goes online it creates all kinds of traffic that wouldn't look like a smart phone.
I am using the stock / not rooted AT&T ROM at this point. I normally root right away, but I haven't really had a need on this one.
I would root and use a different ROM if I felt like it would keep their noses out of my junk. Even if I was tethering, I'm not using a crazy amount of data so I find the whole thing pretty silly.
Now I am thinking that if they do change my tethering plan without my permission, I have to assume that I can break my contract if I want and move elsewhere. Just not sure where I could get another Note II with unlimited data at a decent price.
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Also make sure you DONT use internet explorer that is a NO NO for tethering with AT&T they see the browser agent and KNOW that`s not possible without tethering.
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Also make sure you DONT use internet explorer that is a NO NO for tethering with AT&T they see the browser agent and KNOW that`s not possible without tethering.
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Prove I haven't just changed my agent string to make the stupid app server think I'm on a windows desktop and using IE.
One of my friends pinged me 2 days ago. He got the friendly text stating tethering isn't allowed without a tether plan. No tethering on his part, just a lot of vevo traffic.
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You could setup a linux machine at home and keep that running. Setup an SSH tunnel from your phone to your home linux box and tunnel all the tethering traffic through that. To AT&T that would just look like an encrypted ssh connection.
You could also run a Windows virtual machine on your phone. It's already been done.
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You could also run a Windows virtual machine on your phone. It's already been done.
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That wouldn't help. FIrst, I don't think there are any hardware network drivers for windows for the Note II, so it wouldn't be able to get internet. Second, If he did have internet, he would still run into the same issue of unencrypted traffic being sniffed by at&t. Sure he could setup an ssh tunnel from windows, but at that point it's just silly to run windows on the note just to encrypt traffic.
I assume one could use any VPN like the SSH tunnel or something like hotspot shield or similar as long as all traffic is forced through the tunnel and there really would be no way for anyone to tell what you are doing.
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I assume one could use any VPN like the SSH tunnel or something like hotspot shield or similar as long as all traffic is forced through the tunnel and there really would be no way for anyone to tell what you are doing.
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YA, thats the idea. As long as traffic is encrypted somehow there is little that AT&T can sniff.
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That wouldn't help. FIrst, I don't think there are any hardware network drivers for windows for the Note II, so it wouldn't be able to get internet. Second, If he did have internet, he would still run into the same issue of unencrypted traffic being sniffed by at&t. Sure he could setup an ssh tunnel from windows, but at that point it's just silly to run windows on the note just to encrypt traffic.
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I think he was perhaps referring to why there was traffic that looks like it originated from a PC coming from my phone. So if someone was running a VM on the phone itself it would produce some PC looking traffic. If that was the idea there, I assume tethering to a VM is still tethering?
Yeah: Provided you can run Qemu or Virtualbox you can run Windows in it, and it will have network access just like any VM would from a full sized computer. My point is that you can make a non-tethered phone generate the very same sort of IP traffic a computer would.
Heck, if the Fujitsu LOOX F-07C can run on AT&T, you don't even need a VM to generate connections to Windows Update and a desktop IE user agent!
I got the same message last week. I don't tether at all. I'm on cleanrom 4.5. Tried to request what apps they suspect me of using but wouldn't tell me either. I know all the apps I have on my phone as I keep things very simple. I will admit I do use a lot of data (4-4.5 gigs in 2 weeks lol)
I use Pandora and tunein app to stream music all the time. Only thing that I recently did out of the normal routine was use the desktop view on Google chrome. Would that give a different browser signature?
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I got the same message last week. I don't tether at all. I'm on cleanrom 4.5. Tried to request what apps they suspect me of using but wouldn't tell me either. I know all the apps I have on my phone as I keep things very simple. I will admit I do use a lot of data (4-4.5 gigs in 2 weeks lol)
I use Pandora and tunein app to stream music all the time. Only thing that I recently did out of the normal routine was use the desktop view on Google chrome. Would that give a different browser signature?
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Yes, it would show a user-agent string without indicating mobile. But not likely something to trigger a tether notice, as I use desktop view all the time. It's likely the high data usage that makes them think tether.
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willp2 said:
So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
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To the OP, did you tether ever?
I am worried that innocent people will lose their unlmtd plan? We need to find out if their detection system is wrong?
Wait, I signed up for 2 lines around 3 or 4 months sgo and they said because I got the max 6gigs of data a month I could tether all I want. I haven't for more than 10 minutes but I have noticed that AT&T sales reps speak in half truths. I was told if I paid the 10 a month for insurance I could break it by throwing it at someone" Well I added my 2nd line 10 days later and only then found out about a $200 deductible. I was definitely never told about a high deductible upon signing with them. I dont hold back though. I had all prorated charges waived.
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You could setup a linux machine at home and keep that running. Setup an SSH tunnel from your phone to your home linux box and tunnel all the tethering traffic through that. To AT&T that would just look like an encrypted ssh connection.
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That's exactly what I do and no problems thus far
Tethering detection has been discussed many times. The consensus is that they detect tethering by examining the TTL (Time-To-Live) value in the packet. When you tether a device, it shows a different TTL value than the one used in data packets sent by the phone and that's what they look for. There are other tricky things they can examine in the packet headers that can be used to detect tethering, but those are more complicated and take more effort on the part of the the wireless provider.
From what I read, it looks like SSH tunneling over a VPN would allow you to tether without detection, but I haven't heard of any definitive test on this. The biggest problem I see with that approach is that it really slows down your connection.
Here's a very technical paper that discusses tethering and methods to defeat it: Tethering Camouflage
These guys created a test app that rewrites packet data to hide tethering. In the article, they compare their method to using a VPN, which they imply will do the trick. Their opinion is that wireless providers will eventually give up on trying to enforce tethering restrictions because people will find ways to defeat it and it will cost them more than it's worth.
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That's exactly what I do and no problems thus far
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Same here got an ipcop firewall with open VPN Created certs for my mac and Android devices and no issues as of yet.
TLDR: Unlocked LG G2 was on Sprint, now on VIVA in Kuwait, Max WiFi users when running hotspot is 1 - I want to increase it to more.
Long version:
Hello! I am a military service member deployed to Kuwait. I have a Sprint LG G2 which is rooted and running the latest UltraPop ROM. Before I left the US, my phone was activated on the Sprint network and when I would use my WiFi hotspot, I had the ability to connect up to 10 users or something. When I got to Kuwait, I had to have my phone SIM unlocked for International use to make it work with the SIM cards provided by the carrier here (it's called VIVA). My phone was not on the Sprint network when I needed to unlock so when I did the UICC unlock it did an OTA over WiFi and then I was able to use my phone on their carrier. This is all well and good.
The problem is, I want to connect my laptop, my tablet and a few other items to my hot spot - thus the appeal of the hot spot, right? LOL. Anyway, several advanced options like the radio channel, frequency, etc. have now disappeared and in addition, the most important one - the amount of users able to connect to the hotspot, went from allowing 10 to 1. I am not sure why, except maybe something to do with the OTA update when I did the UICC unlock.
I did some reading and found this article: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2718682
Quickly I tried it and restarted my phone. No change. Then I noticed there was another hack for phones that had been activated on the Sprint network, which as I explained above, believe applies to me. This article has a more complicated procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2675280
I am afraid to try this method and screw things up. I suppose I could boot in TWRP and do a NANDROID back up before I try it but I am wondering if anyone thinks it will hose the only working Internet I have right now in Kuwait.
Any help is appreciated. Also, if anyone knows how to get the WiFi hotspot to allow devices to connect while running a VPN at the same time please enlighten me!
Thanks!!!
Sincerely, Lost & Confused...
OK, so I am going to resurrect my own thread here. I spent some time on and off dealing with the 1 client max for the hot spot in my Sprint LG G2. Lots of frustration. Anyway, digging deeper based on a tip another friend of mine gave, I discovered something that I thought would have helped, but no cigar.
Anyway, a variable called max_num_sta in the file /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant/hostapd.conf allows the access point to have only one client. The hostapd application on Android performs almost identical to an average Linux distro, so I figured by modifying this variable I would be able to allow more than 1 client to connect to my hotspot. However, even when changing the file manually, as soon as the hot spot is enabled thru the stock interface, only 1 client is able to connect and looking at the file again shows the value of the variable has been reset.
Next step on the list, was to run the hostapd manually from an Android terminal (something like hostapd -e/data/misc/wifi/entropy.bin -BK /data/misc/wifi/hostapd.conf). The command works at the hot spot functions, but again somehow resets to 1 freaking client again!
I would really like to be able to use my G2 to connect more than one device at a time to my hot spot while I am stuck in Kuwait. It is my only source of Internet. Anyway. Is there a way to disable the stock Wi-Fi Hot Spot interface using Titanium Back-up? Remove the APK? Modify the system? Something? I'd really like to figure this out. Any info or suggestion appreciated...
Ok so my network (Three uk) disabled my unlimited wifi teathering some time ago which rendered the tablet i used at work useless.
So i went out and found myself a new big screen phone, the sm-t705, a little unwieldy as a phone but hay it works.
Only here comes the snag, when i put the sim card into the device the internet would not work, an error page tells me to put the sim card into a phone to get net, three tech support told me that my phone is a tablet and cant make phone calls .....i was using it to call them lol
Anyway, to the point, i recently read that a rooted device (i am rooted) can pretend to be another device by changing the build.prop there are tons of guilds on how to change it, though from the view point of making google play see it as a different device to install unsupported applications, seems straight forward (if a little risky) but here are my questions,
1) what sections do i need to change so the phone reports as a normal phone?
2) what phone should i spoof as? (im thinking i should spoof as a phone as close to my specs in terms of processor etc as possible to avoid installing a version of an app that may have different cpu requirements or may burn out my phones gpu)
3) anyone done this? any tips if you have?
Thanks in advance,all advice greatfully recieved.
Regarding your old tablet, have you tried Foxfi?
Foxfi doesn't need a tethering plan or root and can create a hotspot using either Bluetooth or wifi.
It works great for me.
Barnacle wifi also used to be good on older devices, but seems to have issues with newer ones.
I used it to create a hotspot on a device that didn't even support it.
All you need is Foxfi on the phone and pdanet on the tablet for the 2 to connect via Bluetooth. Foxfi provides the instructions and links to pdanet to get it up and running in minutes.
For your new tablet if the sim is detecting it is a tablet and three are blocking it from mobile data then I don't think a spoof using the build.prop will fool it as it uses the imei as far as I know.
You may be better off with an xposed module to spoof the device, even then I think your success will be limited.
It's a bit crap of three to do this. I use O2 and have no issues using my phone sim in any tablet.
Does the tablet not even make a mobile data connection?
Have you checked the apn settings are correct?
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I used pdanet for a while, but would prefer to just use one device, the old tablet was sold to pay for the t705 (will part pay, damn this thing was pricy)
Does the imei reveal the device model?
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I used pdanet for a while, but would prefer to just use one device, the old tablet was sold to pay for the t705 (will part pay, damn this thing was pricy)
Does the imei reveal the device model?
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It's used to identify the device, so they will know it's a tablet.
There is an xposed module called device faker, but like I say I think success will be limited as I think the sim will identify the imei from the hardware.
It's seems three don't want you using your tablet for data, do they have an explanation for this?
Maybe all you need is an updated sim card.
I have a three sim card that I can use for data, but if I want I can also make calls with it if I put credit on it.
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This explains the issue better then I can,
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...y-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad-3368856/
As for why, the lady at the three shop told me the data to a tablet is different to the data to a phone as it's not the same operating system......I did my best to not laugh and asked to speak to a higher up, they told me that as it is a tablet and not a phone I would be breaching my contract if I used my simcard in it.....
The actual reason, someone who uses a tablet is more likly to use data and therefore they can get more money out of them via tablet plans with limited data... To sum up, greed.
My temporary solution is to use a bt simcard which gives me access to the world's most unstable bt WiFi network (which disconnects every 30 mins or so) I was hoping the build.prop would be the magic solution doh
I am not familiar with samsung builds, but i had this problem on my motorola phones, (tether locked and forbidden)
Ok, in motorola we have 2 prop files:
build.prop
And
cda.prop
In the cda.prop , i found a line
ro.tether.denied=true
try find this line on your device
If the line does not exists, try force to exist
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And your carrier will nevermore be able to remotely set your device again forcing by a init.d script or putting this command in /system/bin/debuggerd:
setprop persist.radio.adb_log_on 0
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Dethfull said:
I am not familiar with samsung builds, but i had this problem on my motorola phones, (tether locked and forbidden)
Ok, in motorola we have 2 prop files:
build.prop
And
cda.prop
In the cda.prop , i found a line
ro.tether.denied=true
try find this line on your device
If the line does not exists, try force to exist
Sent from my XT320 using xda premium
---------- Post added at 12:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 AM ----------
And your carrier will nevermore be able to remotely set your device again forcing by a init.d script or putting this command in /system/bin/debuggerd:
setprop persist.radio.adb_log_on 0
Sent from my XT320 using xda premium
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Tethering isn't really the issue, it's that three block my simply from data access when I put it in my sm-t705 so I was hoping to make 3 think my sm-t705 was infact a Xperia z3 for example
mrgreaper said:
Tethering isn't really the issue, it's that three block my simply from data access when I put it in my sm-t705 so I was hoping to make 3 think my sm-t705 was infact a Xperia z3 for example
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I'll ask again, do you or do you not get a mobile data connection? [emoji53]
ashyx said:
I'll ask again, do you or do you not get a mobile data connection? [emoji53]
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Yes and no
Any page you try to access goes straight to a page three has to say that your sim card won't work in this device and to put it back in a phone, so while technically you have data you can't use it, no apps can use it either
mrgreaper said:
Yes and no
Any page you try to access goes straight to a page three has to say that your sim card won't work in this device and to put it back in a phone, so while technically you have data you can't use it, no apps can use it either
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So you actually do get a mobile data connection it's just any data sent is blocked.
Have you tried using a vpn, this can circumvent most carrier restrictions.
DotVPN is free and very good, available on play.
There is also TouchVPN, but DotVPN is better as its truly anonymous.
I use these to circumvent Sky's stupid restrictions.
Worth a go.
Vpn? He will have to use vpn? Forever?, i believe your carrier is denying access due to fake id. . .return to yor real roots, or you will get troubles,
Example , is imposible, strictly forbidden change IMEI number of mobiles,
So i may able to SHOW a fake IMEI for really nonsense apps that NEVER interest my IMEI. THAN THE CARRIER.
The carrier, will recognize my real IMEI EVER.
If i change the code inside the IMEI,
They will suspend the services.
So. . .
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Dethfull said:
Vpn? He will have to use vpn? Forever?, i believe your carrier is denying access due to fake id. . .return to yor real roots, or you will get troubles,
Example , is imposible, strictly forbidden change IMEI number of mobiles,
So i may able to SHOW a fake IMEI for really nonsense apps that NEVER interest my IMEI. THAN THE CARRIER.
The carrier, will recognize my real IMEI EVER.
If i change the code inside the IMEI,
They will suspend the services.
So. . .
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They already have suspended his services and no he doesn't need to use a vpn forever, he can always update his plan.
What's wrong with a vpn anyway? I use one all the time and he only needs to use it for mobile data not wifi.
We're looking for solutions here to unreasonable restrictions not statements to the obvious.
Sadly what I use most of my data for is Netflix, I work as night security. A vpn would be bad.
To chap further up, nothing is spoofed at the minute, three detect the sm-t705 when I have thier sim in it and block data access, put the sim in my phone and the block is lifted, I'm looking for a way to make three think my sm-t705 is saying Xperia z3 and leave my data along
Your IMEI correspond to your device model number.
If You change or reformat your IMEI partition with a new number and device model number and id, the carrier will blacklist and suspend your device, simcard.
Is imposible to fake IMEI to carrier provider
I am able to spoof IMEI to all that i judge nonsense apos, minus the carrier...
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Hello. Ever since switching to T-Mobile, I have not been able to get hotspot to work properly without limit the way it did on Sprint with an old rooted Galaxy S4. I have unlimited data without hotspot service added on and a second line that I always used to use for hotspot. I really need to be able to hotspot without using pdanet and other applications like that.
For this second line, I currently have the following phones that I can put on that line:
-Note 9 that is stuck partway through the root process (it is saying it needs version 8 of the combo firmware, which I can't find, so I'm hoping it's not a lost cause at this point)
-Nord N200
-Galaxy A32
Anyone know which would be the best candidate for this? I am also open to suggestions for getting another cheap phone to put on the plan if there is a different optimal candidate for hotspot. With the ones listed, I assume it will require root, and I've had a much harder time figuring out how to do that on these than I used to with older phones even after doing research here a bit ago.