Hello All!
I recently bought a new car that has a stock head unit from Toyota in the middle console, but no USB or even an AUX input for sound. But as the electronics enthusiast I am I started searching around for solutions that would fit my needs in regards to compatibility and usefulness, I haven’t been able to find the solution making me pleased.
I bought a 7” Tontec screen with resistive touch overlay and the first idea was to run this Kodi build on a Raspberry Pi B rev.2 (Kudos to Andrei for the fantastic project!) engineering-diy.blogspot.fi
Altough I would be able to use android as OS, mostly because I want to use the electrical and networking tools bought in Play Store. And since adding an android unit to my existing “Internet of Things” setup would be fairly simple.
To my knowledge there isn’t any stable good working build for android on the raspi and it struck me that I have two old but still functional android phones in the drawer. So I would only need to connect the phone to the screen, and basically get the same solution as with the MimicsX2 and Smartphone Uplink (smartphone-uplink.com)
Units at my disposal
Samsung GS2, GT-9300 (Will be used as Head Unit)
Samsung GS4 LTE+, GT-i9506 (Will not be used, my backup phone if my S5 breaks)
Tontec 7" Display (itontec.com/product-detail/product-name-7)
Display controller board (HDMI/Component-In)
Resistive 4-wire Touch Overlay
Touch controller board supplied with overlay (USB-out)
Pioneer 1-Din Car Stereo (Aux & USB for sound input)
Sure Electronics Audio Amp
ELM327 OBD2 Bluetooth Adapter for ECU Readings
Units to be bought
Bluetooth slave controller [USB-BT] (For connecting touch controller to android phone)
Touch controller (USB) (Optional, adafruit.com/products/1580 To emulate mouse HID, would this eliminate the need of external android driver?)
Reverse Camera
Main Issues
What Bluetooth slave should I use? Other issues to be taken into considerations regarding Bluetooth?
How many Bluetooth devices may be connected to the phone at once?
External BT GPS for added accuracy.
“Hands free” connection to regular Smartphone with SIM-card. (How should this be implemented? Pause music etc.)
And finally attached a visual box diagram of what i meant to accomplish.
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And since I'm completely new to using bluetooth communication, is this even a possible setup? Anything i should know? I would be very grateful for some help before ordering the bluetooth modules, or other needed components.
Related
For now, I'm just looking for recommendations on what bluetooth head unit works good. I'm going to go shopping this weekend.
But feel free to post your happy/unhappy stories/reviews about bluetooth head units with the Captivate.
Thanks.
FWIW Only slightly related: my Ghetto setup with the MOTOROKR T505 worked good with Captivate, fast handshake as long as bluetooth left on all the time with both devices. But I now have decided I need native integration into an aftermarket stereo.
I have an older Pioneer and the A2DP works great for streaming music, system sounds, navigation, etcs.
Calling on the telephone works great, no issues here.
There are two single DIN units out for this year:
http://www.crutchfield.com/g_300/Ca...th_Compatible|Built-in&nvpair=FFBrand|Pioneer
I have last years model of the P6200BT
check this topic out on the main SGS forum
What is the best car head unit for use with the SGS i9000?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726403
meanwhile you at it, also check this topic out
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
I'm going to try mine on my Sony BT2500 and I'll post back the results when I get a chance.
This is what I am using, and I get full features from mine.
Music controls on handset or deck both work (and remote).
Caller ID/Missed Call/Call log scrollable menu on deck screen.
BT phone audio through speakers with included in car mic.
Full audio volume control.
Charging from USB port (with regular USB cable, some companies like Alpine you need their specific cable) and thumb drive play capability.
3.5 aux jack
http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028626&pathId=142&page=1
FH-P8000BT; Voice Dial
Has someone tried the Pioneer FH-P8000BT? I uderstand it's a nice option but don't know if it works ok with Galaxy S's.
Also, is any of the head units mentioned above able to dial by voice? Is it functional?
Thanks all who responded. That's good to know there's a few good options.
happy shopping to me!
I have mine paired to my Kenwood kdc-x993. Contacts automactically downloads to the radio and you can store 7 contacts for speed dialing. Supports a2dp, voice recognition dialing and SMS (haven't test that yet).
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I have had the Pioneer FH-P8000BT for a year or so. I am transitioning from a Zune, and have found the BT audio to be good on the Captivate, and the utit itself matches the phone perfectly. I haven't played with calling too much, but it worked fine on a couple of WM phones that i used. It has a USB out in the back, but I have not yet tried plugging it in with a micro USB (I'm waiting for a right angle micro-USB cable so that its a little more low-pro).
I'm thinking of upgrading to this phone, one of the main reasons is that my current device, which has galaxy S guts, is not compatible with most bluetooth devices. I like to use an app called blueputdroid that turns my phone into a universal keyboard as well as an ELM bluetooth device that turns my phone into a dyno along with the torque app for my car.
For some reason the way samsung built the bluetooth makes it not work with a lot of these things, I know it's not the apps or 3rd party devices as I use my old G1 now for it, but would much rather just have my main phone be my one device.
Have any of you tested blueputdroid or any bluetooth devices? If not could someone try out blueputdroid with this phone (it's free in the market) any help would be much appreciated thanx!!
Says it has detected unsupported Bluetooth stack.. Install cyanogen Rom, etc.
Thanks, at least this phone is likely to get cyanogenmod support which will fix the problem my SK sure as hell won't
My GS2 works perfect with my ELM adapter. It worked perfect with my Vibrant too. I've never had a single problem with any bluetooth device on either of them.
I've had a lot of bluetooth problems with both my vibrant and now my GS2. Both work reliably with my wife's mini cooper bluetooth but they both have had problems connecting to the garmin nuvi I use for handsfree in my car (and forget about the A2DP on it).
I tried a lot of roms on my vibrant (incl stock) and they did lots of cool stuff but never made the BT connect reliably. Then I came across this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795691
I made the suggested change to /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf and voila! I finally have good BT with my vibrant.
So I got my SG2 last week, rooted it and found that it also had the bad settings in /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf. However it also lacked BLN (backlight notification) and few other tweaks I've come to love on my vibrant so I flashed juggernaut 2.6. That fixed all the major foibles with the SG2 but it still won't reliably connect to my garmin.
I opened up the filesystem to find that /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf is no longer there! Does anyone know where it went?
Apparently I don't have enough posts to ask in the dev forum where juggernaut was posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642 so I'm hoping someone will see this plee for help.
thanks
the phone has BT 3.0, but it is backward compatible with BT 2.0 and 1.0 devices
i haven't had any trouble using it with my car deck (streaming audio & phone), my large collection of stereo BT devices, and other BT enabled phones & PCs/Laptops
the remote control feature from the stereo headsets works properly, for fast forward, backward, play, pause, talk, mute, etc
the only thing i have yet need to test BT on is with a BT smart wrist watch
Hi guys, I hope you can help.
I recently brought and installed A Pumpkin 10.1 unit (rk3188).
Ive managed to get Malaysk's custom rom installed but my issue is that i dont have steering wheel controls so i brought a satechi media button. (Because im a new user i cant post a link)
The thing is i can get the unit to find it but it will not connect to it. Could it be a bluetooth name limitation on the unit? is there a work around?
Thank you for your time guys.
Kris
I'm having the same issue... I think its temporal issue, I will update to 23 april rom...
Cool. Let me know how you get on.
The only BT devices that are supported are OBDII readers and Phones (for phonebook sharing, calls and media streaming). No other devices will work (media controllers, gamepads, etc).
That's a shame. I need to look at another work around. Thank you for the info
Is there any way around to connect to non OBDII devices via rooting and using xposed framework
I'm looking for a way for this to happen as well. Just purchased an iSimple remote for my Joying head unit. Lo-and-behold it doesn't work because... reasons? How hard is it for the programmers to allow a remote device use media controls while any other android unit will allow this?
(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
deja100 said:
(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
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No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
Bob_Sanders said:
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
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Yeh I found that threat in my searches, but no one in there quite mentioned this specific scenario (Selecting one of the other options in the Bluetooth settings) so I wasn't sure. And I'm definitely not opening up the unit and cutting on the hardware; hacking config files I can do all day long, but I have no skills when it comes to soldering so I'd probably just destroy the radio in the process of trying to cut that module :laugh:
Yeh I've run the OBDLink EX with Torque as well for data logging temps on track and it worked flawlessly for that as well. BT is definitely more convenient, especially since most are running apps from their phones, but if you have a dedicated radio like these then it's a no-brainer to permanently wire up a USB device.
marchnz said:
No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
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When you say "hacked BT implementation" I'm assuming you mean they don't use the standard Bluetooth stack built into the Android OS? That would make sense, as when I try to do anything with bluetooth from the standard Bluetooth settings menu, it doesn't do anything, doesn't see any devices available for pairing, or anything else. You can only see other devices and pair to them from the PUMPKIN Bluetooth app; the funny thing is it will go through the first steps and show the XGPS160 as being paired, but none of the apps that use the GPS actually see it as a paired device (my OBD dongle shows up, but not the GPS).
I don't understand why they didn't just use standard bluetooth that's already part of the OS, rather than use some hacky custom solution
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
deja100 said:
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
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Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
marchnz said:
Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
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Yeh, that's extremely disappointing Does anyone know of any Android based radio units that have full working bluetooth? I don't mind buying a new unit for the car if I know it will work with everything.
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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ikerg said:
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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Bummer they don't make those units anymore :/ Then again, they may not have been powerful enough to run my track timer apps anyway.
Hello,
I have an Android PX6 head unit in my Toyota 4Runner. I have a couple of questions I am hoping to get some guidance on around Zlink/Carplay:
1. I can only sync one device wirelessly or can I do multiple devices i.e. mine and my wife's?
2. If I can only do one device wirelessly, how do I disable wireless and use wired carplay so wife and I can use it depending on who is driving? I tried to disable wireless in the settings and it would persistently connect wirelessly to my phone.
Thanks in adavance