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we able to come up with a way to unlock . you'll find one way to sim unlock your phone here, only send your IMEI AND 10 UK POUND. but you'll have to pay for it via paypal.
AND FOR FIRST 3 WILL ONLY 5 UK POUND.
running USPL unlocked my phone for free.
Impressive, for a guy whom just posted 7 posts all around the forum regarding a 'key file', just 10 days agos.
Someone nuke his account, he does not deserve the privilege of posting here!
Give him a chance...
MaskedMarauder said:
Someone nuke his account, he does not deserve the privilege of posting here!
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Before he can cash on his discovery, let him offer a promo - i.e some free codes, say for 3 people, then he can market himself and profit if he wants.
Although, he will be defeating the objective of this forum, which I believe is not necessary profitering from knowledge, but providing something for the benefit of the community, then people willingly give you what they can afford if they find your solution helpful.
At least, that has been the case with all the other's efforts....pof, perjan, tom_codon, et.c to mention but a few.
Free Key File For Imei
OK I AM OFFERING some free KEY FILE FOR IMEI, for FIRST 3 people.
Your Phone Is O2
guerilladev said:
running USPL unlocked my phone for free.
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YOUR PHONE IS UNLOCKED BEFORE USE USPL.
AD10 said:
Before he can cash on his discovery, let him offer a promo - i.e some free codes, say for 3 people, then he can market himself and profit if he wants.
Although, he will be defeating the objective of this forum, which I believe is not necessary profitering from knowledge, but providing something for the benefit of the community, then people willingly give you what they can afford if they find your solution helpful.
At least, that has been the case with all the other's efforts....pof, perjan, tom_codon, et.c to mention but a few.
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Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free, I unlocked my artemis for free, right here in this forum. no offence kingback, if every one reads the forum there is lot more anyone can do with patience, if kingback can offer better things he can get donations, if I can use what anyone offers and if it is working I'll be happy to pay for his time. Atleast this is I what think. and sorry if I offended any one.
Cheers
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OK I AM OFFERING some free KEY FILE FOR IMEI, for FIRST 3 people.
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So, i'm ok, let's try.
A+
Rifaa said:
Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free,
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Sorry am I missing something? Where is there a free SIM unlock option available in this forum?
The program has been deleted but Pof says it works. Ask someone and they may have downloaded it.
Basically you run the program and it writes a file that you use with a MicroSD card to change the unlock code on your device to one you know the number of. You then put in a different network SIM and put in the unlock code. And it is unlocked. Apparently. All the OP is doing is using the program he downloaded off this forum to create the file you need and then selling it to you. Shame on him!
Ahhh that. I thought it didn't work, but have read to see it may have been understood, although I don't read any posts saying anyone unlocked their Artemis with it.
Odd how come it was there for days, but as soon as it was deciphered it has been removed.
It was removed at the request of the software's author.
Why delete a free tool? That would give the people that have downloaded it more power, and make it easier for them to make money off it..
I don't think Admin really had much choice, if I have read the posts properly it was a copyrighted program and the holders asked for it's removal.
Rifaa said:
Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free, I unlocked my artemis for free, right here in this forum. no offence kingback, if every one reads the forum there is lot more anyone can do with patience, if kingback can offer better things he can get donations, if I can use what anyone offers and if it is working I'll be happy to pay for his time. Atleast this is I what think. and sorry if I offended any one.
Cheers
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Rifaa - Where did you ghet yours unlocked for free ? Please provide the information then, so others can benefit. If you read my posting accurately, I am sure you will see I did not say people can't get it SIM unlocked for free.
I merely suggested that he make true his claim i.e by offering some free codes which in turn is ascertained by the beneficiaries and then state his terms...even if that is contrary to the objectives of this kind of forum.
unlocker didn't work...
as for now, nobody reported the tool actually worked! so be aware, the unlocker tool did not work so far. if someone is selling output based on the earlier posted unlocker, be a little bit skeptic before paying!
Maybe, if someone has the software, he/she could upload it to rapidshare?
there shouldn't be any problems with copyright or any other law...
I have it
But I am not going to upload it
SimLockTool_Artemis_Excalibur
could me someone explaine the following step for unloking device?
I have this but the instrucnions is not clear...
Or write me in PM.
Thanks in advance.
Hello All,
I'm willing to dedicate the time and effort to develop applications and maybe create a Free CID Unlocker. I'm in 3rd Year I.T & Business Management, I've completed a course in Microsoft Visual Basic. I'm interested in learning more about Windows Mobile 5/6 to further develop applications based on people's needs. I don't want to promise anything but I'm willing to put in all efforts if someone can guide me in the right way. I'm interested in developing applications, yes i'm a newbie to applications development but not a newbie to smartphone/pocket pc phones. I've owned an I-Mate Jam and currently own the HTC s621/Dash/Excalibur. I'd love to develop applications and most of all find a way to CID Unlock the excalibur. If someone who has experience in this field can help me or guide me to the right guides to pursue applications development for Windows Mobile/Pocket Pc, I'd really appreciate it. 2 Members are ready to donate, they are r0p3 and egosumpaul. i don't mind co-working with a group of people to develop a free CID unlocker and maybe applications. Yes, i know nothing in terms of applications development but everyone at one point don't know anything as well. There's always a start somewhere and I want to start now as I'm also going to be specializing in Telecommunications & Networking.
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS. My device is application unlocked with security prompt off. Incase I do need programming software, i can get that as well, so no worries in the department of software, just need the guidance to do this, people start with no knowledge and with a few helping hands, we all can get somewhere. I see many people ask for FREE CID/SIM unlocking solution for the HTC Excalibur.
OFFER: 20 $
TESTING: I'm ready to test
SUPPORT: 2 Members (Egosumpaul & r0p3 - hats off to their determination) as of now, one willing to pay 20 $ and another one willing to pay 40 $ i think. total - 20 + 20 + 40 = 80 $
who's with me? please don't back off, i'd love to see support through this, i have hope - i hope we can get somewhere, if IMEI can do it, so can we - they are people too, sure they might be professionals but at one point they were like us, i don't mean to talk highly of me or anyone nor am i putting them down - i just don't want to pay 38 $ for CID Unlocking, I want to make a FREE CID Unlocking Solution for everyone. guide me in the right track and i'll try my best to do it. if someone's willing to make it and already are experienced, then please do so
Thanks in advance for everyone's support !
Co nfirm my 20...
20 Views & 1 Reply? C'mon I honestly thought i'd see more positivity in this thread. Everyone wants a Free CID/SIM Unlocker but if we don't work together, It's not going to be easy. If someone has any knowledge on this topic, please feel free to post, you don't have to make a donation, just enlighten me atleast. I have hope, even if i can't do it, i'll try and get somewhere - if not me, someone else.
Thanks for the support, egosumpaul - i noticed you linked my thread on gsm-forum as well. i appreciate it.
hmm..i don't think anyone's even interested, i'm gonna wait till tommorow and see - i hope to see some responses.
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Thanks for the support r0p3, and yeah... maype pof would like to take the challenge, he did a great job with the Touch.
I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
I'm just quickly replying to build interest and support for this cause - egosumpaul, mixx, r0p3 and me are willing to donate 20 $ for the cause so let's see more interest in this subject. c'mon now, almost everybody have their free SIM & CID unlockers, what about us? let's do something about it. i'm just going to have lunch and come back then post a detailed reply.
So Far, 4 Donors Ready - Let's See Some More - Cmon !
r0p3 said:
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Hello r0p3,
i really appreciate your efforts and the interest in the subject. I'm glad you're willing to donate and work for the cause. I've seen your threads and it's sad that people aren't really motivated to donate and help but let's not loose hope. We're 4 but hopefully soon we will have the support we need. For now, let's focus on what we can do to help. I've pm'ed you, check your pm. Thanks for the support once again.
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I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
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hey uccellino, i never thought about that one but a smart thought, I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM. also, i know nothing about the subject too but that's how we learn, we always start somewhere so atleast we're at a better stage - the fact that we're willing to learn, put in the time and efforts - trust me, i don't want to brick my device either but i'll try my best and help. Thanks once again for the support.
UPDATE:
ok, i was playing around with HTC Trinity SIM_CID Unlocker downloadble at this link
http://rapidshare.com/files/20880414/HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
made by pof last night and even though i really didn't get anywhere, i was able to run the Unlocker on my device. It did not SIM or CID Unlock the device but here are the list of errors i got:
Couldn't list locked facilities
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
Couldn't get CID1
Couldn't set SuperCID1
Couldn't get CID2
Couldn't set SuperCID2
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Final Result: Device SIM/Network lock removed and set to SuperCID
now i tried upgrading the rom image to WM6 after i did that and unfortunately i get the [ERROR 294] Invalid Vendor ID.
so it's clear that it did not work but here's the deal
the program did run so we could maybe use the same program layout, dump the rom's of locked and unlocked devices, compare them and maybe get somewhere.
now i'll try and get in touch with pof - the creator of this program for some help since he is an experienced guy and know's what he's doing. so the program runs but does not execute the code because obviously the code is different, we're looking to break in the code so for example:
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
we can see that the program tries to reset facilities by doubling the facility number that is 01 to 02 to 04 etc. now i will have a look at r0p3's thread "SSPL possible for excalibur" and see if i can get some information there. I will upload the HTC Trinity SIM/CID Unlocker for those willing to look into this into more detail. if someone can tell me what exactly i'm looking for, i'm willing to go into the software specifics. i know it's not much but atleast we know the program works on our device, just does not break the code. I will also provide links to the WM6 ROM ImageS and to the ROM Bootloader update.
1) HTC Russian WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/42890131....1_4.1.13..exe
2) T-MOBILE WWE WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/28455965/RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.22.531.4_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe
3) ROM Bootloader update
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
4) OLD ROM IMAGE
ftp://xda:[email protected]_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.90_Ship.exe
5) Application Unlock (Just Incase)
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
6) IMEI DASH V2 Unlocker
- http://www.imei-check.co.uk/DASHv2Unlock.zip
7) Mobile Registry Editor (Could Prove Handy)
- http://www.breaksoft.com/Download/MR...stryEditor.zip
alright, i've included all links to potential requirements. if there's anything else - please let me know. I'm also copying from the previous thread that is
SSPL possible for Excalibur
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308564
please refer for background purposes.
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Originally Posted by pof
SSPL has an hermes or trinity IPL embedded, that won't work on excalibur. The hermes SSPL works on breeze because breeze & hermes IPLs are quite the same, but compare them with an excalibur IPL and you'll see what i mean.
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You can probably replace the resource on the exe with an excalibur IPL, or try to contact Des for help with SSPL.
So if I understand right I "only" would have to replace the Hermes IPL-Data with Excalibur IPL-Data in this SSPL and chances are good that it works.
So the SPL generated in RAM can be the same?
- r0p3
Of course, you must also patch it to bypass nbh signature checks... This was the "Holy Grail" achieved first by Des.
- Sleuth255
Yes I have read about this - the SSPL.exe generates a (patched) SPL in RAM so far I understand - and this SPL (generating code) can remain the same, am I right?
- r0p3
You need to patch ipl so it doesn`t hang on boot. we didn`t do it with breeze as it is the same as hermes. In spl you need to patch the cid check and nbh check function. Also, it`s omap, not samsung - the addresses are different
- sp3dev
ok that's the important posts from the thread.
hmm - I will see what I can figure out even though my programming skills are a little bit rusty...so all in all, that's all the information i thought we needed for now, if there's anything else i can add, please notify me. like i said i'm willing to put in the efforts and time involved in this project. let's do something about this as we are a big community and it disappoints me to see so many people not come forward, support or donate for the cause.
sorry about the long post. hope to see a free cid and sim unlock solution, that's all. Good Luck !
p.s: r0p3, can you please upload your ROM dump image? thanks.
Willing To Donate Information
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
Kichigai said:
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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perfect, thanks a lot. i'll try and find someone who can ask you to go through the proper steps required to extract a rom. it's ok - i understand, i'm going through the same but lol i want windows mobile 6 on my phone and at the same time help the community by trying to get the proper support to develop a free sim & cid unlocker. thanks in advance. i can provide a locked rom, no problem - i'm just unaware as to how to extract a rom, i'm going out for a bit but when i come back, i'll do some research and find out how to extract roms.
thanks once again, the support is slow but it's getting there, alright
i'm very disappointed at the response, 401 views and only 12 replies? you've got to be kidding me, this is pathetic ! i'm lost for words, say even if i take 300 views instead of 401 views, that's almost 300 people that's seen this thread and only 12 replies, what kind of support or response is this? you guys want a free CID/SIM but don't want to donate or support, forget donation - even a little bit of help...say ok i'll cut it down to 100 people viewed my thread, out of those 100 people, say only 10 people have knowledge on this subject - still only 12 replies which the majority is me. this is sad, i honestly can't believe the fact that i've barely gotten support for the right cause. i'm still willing to help and do whatever it takes, can people please start supporting this thread so we can get out there and do the dirty work to develop a free unlocking solution, please. thanks in advance
p.s: you don't have to donate, it's not necessary but just some technical support or guidance could really help us. why am i wasting my time, why'd i waste my time and wrote that update with links if noone really is ready to help me and the other members that are willing to do this? honestly, thanks to those who have shown interest in this cause and for your generous offer for donation.
lukybandit said:
... I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM....
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Actually the idea is from pof (thanks ), who wrote this:
Excalibur uses Samsung OneNAND chip, itsme developed a tool to access the non-OS sections of the chip, ie: where the CID area is stored.
The simlock data is stored on the first 0x20000 bytes of the gsmsection.
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For those interested:
OneNAND the chip
bkondisk.zip a tool to read off data -
More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
I will admit to being a viewer, keenly interested in the success of this tool, but honestly I am a follower. I had a Wizard and hacked the snot out of it, how? Using stuff off this wonderful forum. I didn't develop anything and I followed everything I read step by step because otherwise I have absolutely no idea what I am doing with PDA's, XDA's, Smartphones and all the other stuff. Unfortunitely I am also broke at the moment. That could change and if it does I would be willing to donate as this forum has always provided wonderful wonderful advise for me in more then one type of phone, operating system, etc. I never wrote anything in this thread before because I don't know what I have to offer. I don't have time, money, or knowledge. Guess you could say I am a bottom feeder. Not that I don't try. But I felt guilty about reading this thread without saying anything given your comments about people not supporting but are viewing. This could be a large part of the reason.
Anyway, there is my two cents. Sorry.
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More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
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that's the thread I tried at that time to get a ROM dumped and flash it back.
But with that OS-image I was not able to extract the files out of it.
Got the files at that time only with imgfs-Tools and the "-nosplit" Option
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
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Ok - here is the dump of IPL/SPL/GSM I had done with bkondisk - I think those are exactly what we need to explore and patch for a CID/SIM unlock
also have a look in the WIKI here
lukybandit said:
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS.
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So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
Donations for...
McHale said:
So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
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I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
egosumpaul said:
I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
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Not that it's a sin, but we see someone come along every once in a while "borrow" the tools that are made available (for free) on this site and use them to come up with a utility or a tool that they try to make money on.
Look at all the programs that take the reg patches we discover and put a front end on it and sell it for 30 bucks? It makes people no longer want to support the community because someone else makes money from it.
So in essence, it slowly destroys the community.
Now, he has a beautiful plan. If everyone on here pays him 20 bucks to help motivate him and he can't fulfill your dream, no harm no foul. Your 20 bucks didn't go for a guarentee.
Or, you could pay IMEI-CHECK 40 bucks and it will be onlocked... GUARENTEED.
I am not associated with IMEI-CHECK in any way. But if they offer a service that nobody else offers, they can charge whatever they want. 40 bucks isn't bad. Besides, they didn't beg anyone for money to figure things out and they didn't use anyone else's tools.
-Mc
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.
If you want to write a guide to doing those things with screenshots, all power to you I am not sure how this relates to XDA, its not like they have ever phone ever made available to them todo guides for, and each phone is generally slightly different.
As far as hosting, even photobucket will do the job nicely.
knightslay2 said:
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.
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The guides that are posted are done so with the point of learning what to type where. Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it is cool. IT carries real risks. Remember this is a development site. Not a How To site. If you want to do this as stated above feel free. Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard.
zelendel said:
The guides that are posted are done so with the point of learning what to type where. Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it is cool. IT carries real risks. Remember this is a development site. Not a How To site. If you want to do this as stated above feel free. Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard.
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"Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it's cool"
XDA has more than 3 million members who would disagree with you on that. What is not cool about rooting and modding your device?
"Remember, this is a development site, not a how to site"
Not entirely true. While XDA's main purpose is to provide a forum that encourages developers to be creative and share their hard work with the community, developers include detailed instructions on "how to" install/flash a ROM or MOD. XDA is also about teamwork, and encourages experienced members to guide new members in the right direction.
"Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard."
Not sure what there is to think long and hard about. Most people are here because of the freedom and flexibility the Android platform has to offer. Rooting and modding is not rocket science, nor heart surgery; but rather fun and interesting. I think it's safe to assume that most people who come here, do so to test the limits of their devices, while adding customizations that express who they are. For every mistake made by an inexperienced member, there is usually a workaround to remedy the issue.
While XDA encourages members to read, read, and read some more before attempting to root or mod, it's not done to discourage people from modding/rooting but rather a "proceed at your own risk" approach to prevent inexperienced members from flooding and overwelming the developers with support questions when something goes wrong.
My point is that rooting and modding is fun; A LOT of fun, and very interesting. The ability and freedom to customize your device to your liking, while increasing the performance, and pushing your device to the limits is what made XDA what it is today; One gigantic family of people who share a common interest.
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knightslay2 said:
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.[/QUOTE
You didn't provide enough information in your OP. You might get more assistance if people knew which device you have.
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Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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/end rant.
Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.
if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)
Hi All
I have recently starting looking more and more into app dev and ROM dev as a personal dev.
I have a history of programming/ Netwoking PC's through my work and I have a growing interest in android dev.
I wont bore you with the life history and why I'm doing what I'm doing, just to say I'm at the start of my travels in this community.
I currently have a locked HTC M8, locked to voda uk. I have been reading a few post here and on other places, but for starters I just want to know the best / easiest option for unlocking this. I also have a unlocked Kazam mobile to try out my learning on.
If there is a free way through root i would prefer this as my skills will grow, but also dont want to fall at the first hurdle.
If i pay for one where should i go? Doesnt have to be the cheapest, just the most secure / reliable source.
I know these question have probably been asked and answered 100 times already, but i was getting lost in old post and processes that no longer work or every other carrier bar voda listed
Thanks for reading and look forward to becoming more active member here over the coming months/ years
CF
Bought code off ebay for £2, Just need to go about getting rid of the voda stuff with a new ROM for both now