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Im trying to find out what is draining the battery on my EVO EVEN WHEN THE PHONE IS WITH THE SCREEN OFF and SUPPOSED to be in STAND BY MODE (using the power button on the phone). I have SETCPU installed to LOWER the CPU to 245/384 when the screen is off.. HOWEVER THE BATTERY SEEMS TO DRAIN .
This afternoon I charged he batter till the green light came on. Made one phone call for 10 minutes and then later another one for 10 minutes.. I do have GPS and BLUETOOTH ALWAYS turned on since I use them all the time WHEN the phone is on for various APPS and my bluetooth earpiece and car adaptor... After those 2 calls the phone is down to almost 70% from 100%...
I have SYSTEM PANEL and also JUICEPOLTTER, SPARE PARTS and MINIFREEMANAGER installed and the programs are set according to what I have been reading on here...
SPARE PARTS tells me the phone has be MORE THAN ONE DAY with sleeping and the most used app is ANDROID SYSTEM. I look at SYSTEMPANEL and UNDER MONITOR HISTORY I can see that even when there is NO DEVICE USAGE, I still have around 15-30% CPU Usage (is this normal?). I also have it set to get email etc automatically.. some every 2 hours and some software every 4-6 hours.
What could be causing the battery drain? What is the best program to use to see the cause?
Im also not 100% sure SETCPU is using the screen off profile.. HOW an I tell this??? Any help would be appeciated...
Have you tried turning GPS off? If it's not actually being used, it won't drain the battery much or at all. However, if you're actually using it, it will.
If you're using navigation, that's a big battery killer, as it does constant GPS + a large amount of data transfer.
One thing you can try is to open Spare Parts, then go to Battery History and choose "Partial wake usage" in the top box. Things with partial wake locks are generally the biggest idle battery users.
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Have you tried turning GPS off? If it's not actually being used, it won't drain the battery much or at all. However, if you're actually using it, it will.
If you're using navigation, that's a big battery killer, as it does constant GPS + a large amount of data transfer.
One thing you can try is to open Spare Parts, then go to Battery History and choose "Partial wake usage" in the top box. Things with partial wake locks are generally the biggest idle battery users.
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In partial WAKEUP uage... I see the following:
MAIL
UID 10018
WUNDEREADIO
MEDIA
VOICEMAIL
DIALER
FACEBOOK
that is the orde they are in and I set it to TOTAL SINCE BOOT.
And to answer your question about the GPS.. the only time I use the GPS is to get the correct weather for when I am, YELP and when I am in the car (and PLUGGED IN TO THE CAR MOUNT), GOOGLE NAVIGATION.
I also just Installed a BRIGHTNESS WIDGET and turned off auto-brightness. the widget I am using has 8 brightness settings and double click for auto. I am using currently on the second brightness setting on the widget (it shows little ticks). I am told lowering the brightness from auto will help...
I read in another forum that there was a bug in the Facebook application that was causing the application to refresh its information several times an hour instead of once in a while at specific times.It would use power and bandwith when the phone is even in sleep mode with screen off. They also mentioned that there was a fix already issued for this. I cannot find the link any more to source it for you where I read this.
My stock EVO runs for days with the radios turned off until I need them.
Sometimes, if it ain't broke ...
My evo has been draining fast without all that on and well it's annoying. The only compensation I have is owning 3 batteries.
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I haven't seen that Facebook issue. One other thing. In spare parts I have activity management set to aggressive. Could that effect battery life or does that help battery life. I also notice in spare parts that I See programs that I don't use ruining that I didn't see before.
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dahauss said:
In partial WAKEUP uage... I see the following:
MAIL
UID 10018
WUNDEREADIO
MEDIA
VOICEMAIL
DIALER
FACEBOOK
that is the orde they are in and I set it to TOTAL SINCE BOOT.
And to answer your question about the GPS.. the only time I use the GPS is to get the correct weather for when I am, YELP and when I am in the car (and PLUGGED IN TO THE CAR MOUNT), GOOGLE NAVIGATION.
I also just Installed a BRIGHTNESS WIDGET and turned off auto-brightness. the widget I am using has 8 brightness settings and double click for auto. I am using currently on the second brightness setting on the widget (it shows little ticks). I am told lowering the brightness from auto will help...
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From your list I can only see two things I would kill these programs and wait and see what happens.
WUNDEREADIO
FACEBOOK
Everything else must run. For me Slacker radio kept my EVO on all day long eventhough I was not using it. The new version seems to fix that issue. I am guessing your problem is WUNDEREADIO. I would reboot (resets your battery information) kill Wundereadio. Then go to Settings, About, Battery and monitor your Awake Time vs Up Time. Write down the numbers. Turn off your phone and wait 10 minutes. You should see a gap in time. If so then it is Wundereadio.
Good luck
I think slacker and wunderradio were in the list because I just used them.. wunderradio inst in the list today.. BUT SLACKER is but not in the partial wake.. its in background ...
I changed my backlight setting from auto to using a widget that has 8 brightness settings and it is on the 3rd setting.. I dont know what the AUTO backlight was setting the screen at...
I also adjusted the MINIFREEMANAGER according to some settings I found online..
also I have SPARE PARTS set to AGGRESSIVE... would that have anything to do with it??
Check systempanel first thing when you wake up, but go into monitor, then history, and switch plot to top apps. It will tell you exactly whats been using the battery/cpu when there's been no usage.
As you know, the bt sucks a lot of battery, if you really do use it often, with a bunch of apps, you may want to consider tasker, which can be set up to turn bt on only when your on a call, or using certain apps.
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Will tasker turn on bluetooth when a call comes in? IE will it let the bluetooth earpiece ring so I can answer it from the bluetooth earpiece?? also can I set tasker so that when get in my car, it will KNOW I am in range of a bluetooth speakerphone and it will turn on BT and connect??
I leave BT on all the time for these reasons....
Looks like tasker wont do anything for me with Bluetooth. The earpieces take too long to connect when a call comes in or I make a call and some even auto answer when they connect which I don't want. I wonder how much battery drain Bluetooth and GPS use if left on but idle?
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Yeah, it would have depended on how long it took to pair. Still try checking the apps through systempanel after a few hours of non-use though. That should help.
And gps doesn't use much until its being used for something, but bt is a constant drain.
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On my old tp2 Bluetooth didn't the battery much. I guess it does on the evo
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OK so I have been running for the past day and 1/2 without blutooth turned on.. I only have 3G and GPS turned on. Still it seems the battery drains faster then it should. I look at SPARE PARTS and it doesnt show anything out of the ordinary on PARTIAL WAKEUP. I have SETCUP to 384/245 when screen off. I do use SYSTEMPANEL to look at what is running and it does show a LOT of stuff such as SLACKER, SOUND HOUND, JUICE PLOTTER, etc... what else can I do for battery life.. I left for work at 8:00 and when I got to work at 8:15, the battery was already at 90% without doing anything....
Aldo how much battery drain does BT take if I leave it on? its a pain to remember to turn it on when I get in the car and turn it off when I leave...
Hello,I am using Zenfone 2 16GB, 4GB ram . My battery life is bad every 3 minute %1 drain fastly ...
I can see screen time maximum 4 hour or maybe a little more for 4 hour.Screen Light %0 wifi is closed and everything is closed no working program no working bluetooth or nfc etc..I tried everthing for better battery life but ı cant solve this problem ı bought my phone one mounth ago and ı see everyday android is is using %45-50 battery.I never opened auto screen lighter or 4g or ntc. But drain,fastly every 3 minute %1 drain.my firmware is 2.20.40.58 and how can solve this problem can you help me please
To help improve battery life
1. Please ensure to turn off 'Wifi Scanning always available.'
2. Please also see the following information showing 8 ways to extend the ZenFone 2 battery Life. http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1012981/
3. If still no improvement then recommend performing a hardware reset including cache wipe partition and try steps 1 & 3 again. http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1011956/
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ASUS_USA
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None of those ASUS official 8 ways do solve the root cause of the battery drain issue.
So far I find most interesting way that may really double your battery life is to activate the "Intel Deep Sleep Mode"
Please check at the link (sorry too new to post a link)
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Hi
I still dare to activate my Zenfone2 deep sleep mode following the process.
Guess what happened? I have no problem with my proximity sensor nor any issue with ZenMotion after 1 week tests.
And the battery saving effect of this deep sleep mode is working like a champ.
I have not yet calculated scientifically but the deep sleep mode at least *doubled* my battery life, which means before activating deep sleep mode I need to recharge every day of even 1/2 day. Now my Zenfone2 could work without charging for more than 1 day or even 2 days under normal use.
Now I have removed all apps related to battery saving like amplify, greenify, battery doctors, etc.
and I don't even need to close any app in startup management and the deep sleep still works and extend my battery life up to 2 days recharging cycle under my normal usage.
Although I find a side(not bad) effect so far is that the file transfer will be "deep slept" (i.e. backup progress stopped at the % where your screen turns off) and it seems the moving activity in the background is deactivated when screen off. But this is not a issue to me as I expect all apps and activities that out of my focus should not keep draining my battery. I can achieve this by stopping unkown/unecessary wakelocks through "xplosed + amplify" but I don't need them anymore as deep sleep mode seems does the same for me.
One thing really does matter to me is that will all notification still works? My test so far shows that by activating the deep sleep mode will not disable any wifi nor 4G signal nor any notification that the apps should normally give you alarms/warnings, especially wake up alarms.
I'd like to really really thank you for your advise.
I think this "intel deep sleep mode" is really a total soultion to the Zenfone 2 battery drain issue and worth a try, at least for me so far.
I don't know if this process also may apply to non-intel cpu android phones which also have the andorid os battery draining bugs.
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can you tell me the steps to enable deep spleep mode?
I am a noob bro :angel: but the following tweaks will certainly help u.
I use auto start manager to manage almost all except a few apps like whatsapp and truecaller etc.
Disable wifi scanning and wifi network notification in wifi advanced settings. Our phone's brightness is too much even on the lowest setting so keep it around 25-30% for lower battery drain from display.
Watch out for wakelocks, read the battery graph. I prevented truecaller and playstore from waking up device.
Turn off gps when not using.
Disable asus built in bloatware and certain google apps that u don't use e.g. i dont use google plus, talkback, hangouts and even chrome since these run in background and drain battery.
Google app is also a big culprit. I personally don't use google app and disabling it will make a big difference.
Then use data usage in mobile manager for further tweaks. Avoid 4g/3g when idle.
Mine is a 2gb z00a and i get a decent backup of around 1.5 days with normal usage with calling whatsapp browsing. Intel processor is a battery vamp and this fact can't be changed.
And not to forget after every ota update perform a cache wipe to get rid of conflicting data from previous firmware.
And this intel deep sleep mode is new to me..will also try it.
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Have the h811 and using the app but don't know if it's working. On slumber mode
Which app are you referring too?
The deep sleep battery app? That's the first relevant thing I found in the playstore. And the comments on it don't seem too good.
A lot of folks here will recommend the greenify app instead and picking the apps you want to go into a sleep mode until triggered to wake up.
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Which app are you referring too?
The deep sleep battery app? That's the first relevant thing I found in the playstore. And the comments on it don't seem too good.
A lot of folks here will recommend the greenify app instead and picking the apps you want to go into a sleep mode until triggered to wake up.
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Yeah that's what I am referring to the deep sleep battery app, I as well am using greenify with xposed module for deeper sleep
With the screen off, you can just swipe down on the off screen to see the time. You will see that your mobile data is shut off. At least this works for me. I can clearly see my LTE symbol disappearing.
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HeartUnderBlade said:
With the screen off, you can just swipe down on the off screen to see the time. You will see that your mobile data is shut off. At least this works for me. I can clearly see my LTE symbol disappearing.
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Have you been noticing difference with using deep sleep battery saver?
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Have you been noticing difference with using deep sleep battery saver?
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To be honest, I have. I also know that it's working because I swipe down when my screen is off and I see that my mobile data has shut off. Last night, I fell asleep without charging my phone at 67% and woke up to.... 67%, I was asleep for about 6 hours. I came from the Sony Xperia Z2 and kept stamina mode on 24/7. I was able to pull off well over 30 hours with that phone. Using deep sleep battery saver (which was based off the same idea as Stamina mode) I definitely noticed a difference in idle battery. Of course, once you get into any sort of task with the screen on then that's a different story.
The LG G4 already had pretty amazing idle times but I have a lot of apps that loves to wake up the phone when I'm sleeping. Before the app, I noticed that I'd wake up to maybe a 5% drain at minimum over the course of 6~7 hours. Sometimes, when my apps update on their own, I'd notice a significant drop of maybe even 10%.
I paid for the app since it's pretty cheap but honestly, I don't notice any real benefit to having the paid version. The paid version allows you to set some whitelist apps which is what Sony's Stamina mode allowed. However, if you're okay with not having that control then the free version is more than enough. Who knows, maybe some people will benefit less from it :/
I just want to make a point that I am also using it in conjunction with Greenify. I'm not sure if using the two really bears any great benefits but under my impression, greenify hibernates user apps while deep sleep can basically prevent anything from accessing data since it also shuts off mobile data. I can't see how using the two would hurt so why not? It looks like they both do different things that combined would be a very powerful battery saver.
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To be honest, I have. I also know that it's working because I swipe down when my screen is off and I see that my mobile data has shut off. Last night, I fell asleep without charging my phone at 67% and woke up to.... 67%, I was asleep for about 6 hours. I came from the Sony Xperia Z2 and kept stamina mode on 24/7. I was able to pull off well over 30 hours with that phone. Using deep sleep battery saver (which was based off the same idea as Stamina mode) I definitely noticed a difference in idle battery. Of course, once you get into any sort of task with the screen on then that's a different story.
The LG G4 already had pretty amazing idle times but I have a lot of apps that loves to wake up the phone when I'm sleeping. Before the app, I noticed that I'd wake up to maybe a 5% drain at minimum over the course of 6~7 hours. Sometimes, when my apps update on their own, I'd notice a significant drop of maybe even 10%.
I paid for the app since it's pretty cheap but honestly, I don't notice any real benefit to having the paid version. The paid version allows you to set some whitelist apps which is what Sony's Stamina mode allowed. However, if you're okay with not having that control then the free version is more than enough. Who knows, maybe some people will benefit less from it :/
I just want to make a point that I am also using it in conjunction with Greenify. I'm not sure if using the two really bears any great benefits but under my impression, greenify hibernates user apps while deep sleep can basically prevent anything from accessing data since it also shuts off mobile data. I can't see how using the two would hurt so why not? It looks like they both do different things that combined would be a very powerful battery saver.
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I have Greenify as well and my battery life is TERRIBLE on this phone. I am lucky to get 8 hours before going from 100% to under 50%...I have a ton of bloat frozen and a ton of apps Greenified. What system apps are you Greenify'ing? The battery life is killing me on this phone, thank God I got a free battery with the promotion.
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I have Greenify as well and my battery life is TERRIBLE on this phone. I am lucky to get 8 hours before going from 100% to under 50%...I have a ton of bloat frozen and a ton of apps Greenified. What system apps are you Greenify'ing? The battery life is killing me on this phone, thank God I got a free battery with the promotion.
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I didn't greenify any system apps. I just greenified every single user app that could potentially run while the phone was not in use. I also used tasker to force greenify my facebook app the minute the screen turns off instead of waiting for greenify to activate. I also used kernel adiutor to change the big core's governor to powersave and then changed the LITTLE core's governor to interactive.
Like I said in a previous post, I most use greenify for user apps as I kind of don't want to touch system apps at this moment. I use deep sleep battery saver for anything else that could potentially dodge greenify (like system apps that tries to access data). As all these settings so far are for when the screen is off, the Kernel Adiutor settings are for helping with battery life when the screen is on. I don't think the tasker setting is necessary as it very well could just be a placebo effect but I don't like how facebook isn't hibernated immediately.
So to sum it up; the settings I used:
Greenify all user apps
Use tasker to immediately greenify select apps that are power hungry
Use deep sleep battery saver
Use Kernel Adiutor and set big.LITTLE governors to powersave and interactive
**I should mention that I have the T-mobile H811 model which has an unlocked bootloader with a custom recovery.
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I didn't greenify any system apps. I just greenified every single user app that could potentially run while the phone was not in use. I also used tasker to force greenify my facebook app the minute the screen turns off instead of waiting for greenify to activate. I also used kernel adiutor to change the big core's governor to powersave and then changed the LITTLE core's governor to interactive.
Like I said in a previous post, I most use greenify for user apps as I kind of don't want to touch system apps at this moment. I use deep sleep battery saver for anything else that could potentially dodge greenify (like system apps that tries to access data). As all these settings so far are for when the screen is off, the Kernel Adiutor settings are for helping with battery life when the screen is on. I don't think the tasker setting is necessary as it very well could just be a placebo effect but I don't like how facebook isn't hibernated immediately.
So to sum it up; the settings I used:
Greenify all user apps
Use tasker to immediately greenify select apps that are power hungry
Use deep sleep battery saver
Use Kernel Adiutor and set big.LITTLE governors to powersave and interactive
**I should mention that I have the T-mobile H811 model which has an unlocked bootloader with a custom recovery.
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Awesome, thanks for the informative reply. One question, wouldn't putting the CPU governor on powersave make the phone run really choppy/laggy? Also, I have the Verizon G4 no unlocked bootloader but root.
pettigrew95 said:
Awesome, thanks for the informative reply. One question, wouldn't putting the CPU governor on powersave make the phone run really choppy/laggy? Also, I have the Verizon G4 no unlocked bootloader but root.
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Most day to day tasks are done with the "LITTLE" cores while intensive tasks are done using the faster "big" so you won't normally notice any lag since the governor for the littles is interactive. I figured the only time I would really drain my battery is when I'm using intense tasks that would utilize the big cores. You will notice a little lag when in really heavy apps like the camera but it's really not that bad - it's not like a "I'm-going-to-miss-my-shot-because-it's-so-laggy" bad. Just give it a shot and you'll see what I mean. I don't use my phone for gaming but I do use it for almost everything else including streaming videos and I don't notice any lag other than in the camera - which, like I said, isn't that bad. If you do want to tweak around with the governor though, I high recommend Kernel Adiutor since it is compatible with the big.LITTLE system (meaning it can set the separate governor for both big and little cores) unlike Rom Toolbox Pro.
While I can bear with the slight lag for the extra battery life, you may not be able to take it. Your mileage may vary I guess. Battery life is much more important to me than high performance since I don't do anything intense like gaming or heavy rendering and I'm always on the go so I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
For me deep sleep has been giving me battery drain issues and uninstalled it after two days of use on slumber and my custom mode that didn't let no app awake and also the force tune cpu and what not yet still battery drain. With it off battery drains much much more less
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
Eidoss said:
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
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I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
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Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
sfhub said:
Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
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Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
Eidoss said:
Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
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What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
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What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
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Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
Eidoss said:
Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
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Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
sfhub said:
Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
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Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
Eidoss said:
Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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What is the power drain over a couple of hours with *no apps installed* completely stock, and wifi/cell turned off? What is the change when wifi is turned on?
Eidoss said:
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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Have you set "WiFi on during sleep" to "Never"? in the Advanced WiFi settings?
In the original release, there was a bug where WiFi would stay on even if you had set it to "Never" draining battery in standby.
Somewhere between MDA89E and MHC19Q they fixed it and WiFi will go to deep sleep after being in standby for a while, but they introduced another (or exposed existing) bug where WiFi will not resume after coming out of sleep, unless you cycle WiFi off/on. So you're standby battery should be better with this setting, but it'll be a little more annoying when turning on your device.
Hi,
(I'm on Ressurrection Remix 5.8.5 / Nougat 7.1.2 final, rooted; installed O+3 OB24 firmware)
Recently (around mid-Feb) I started having problems with battery life on my device. I haven't changed anything (significant, not that I remember) but it was annoying me so on the road to figuring out which app/part of the system could cause the battery drain I ended up with pure Resurrection Remix rom without any Gapps (or any other apps for that matter) and... battery was still draining like crazy (which only annoyed me more). And with helpers like WakeLockDetector it say that my device was in deep sleep less then 50% of the time (and it was mostly laying on the table!)
The other day I noticed that if I disable WiFi all of the sudden device got decent sleep time (about 10-25% of awake time, which was consistent with my use case). I check the settings of wifi and had "keep wifi on during sleep" set to 'always' (however from performance and battery drain perspective having wifi on and even having idle TCP connection open shouldn't drain battery that much). I switched it to 'keep on only while charging' (no effect) and then to 'never' (also no effect).
Then I turned to old friend - 'llama' aplication and configured it to disable wifi the moment I turn off the screen and then when I turn on the screen activate wifi. With that setup I went from having 20-25% by the end of the day (unplug the phone around 6-7am, check around 6-7pm, i.e. after 12h) to still having 70% left with the same usage/timeframe. Generally this could be it, but! This is still kinda semi-automatic and I would loose notification if I don't explicitly wake device.
I was under the impression that this should be handled by doze - i.e. if the phone is lying on the table it would force device into deep sleep and then periodically wake it up to allow apps to refresh it states. In my case it looks like something is preventing doze from working correctly and placing phone into deeps sleep. I wan't as low-level as my (current) knowledge let me and I'm kinda stuck and don't know what to check next or how to fix it.
After using llama to disable wifi while screen is of the wakelock by 'PowerManagerService.WakeLocks' went down significantly as well as awake time.
Battery details: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvf47nzx7ob5wc8/battery-details.png?dl=0 (wifi always on)
Wifi config: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2v65dugidp57rrd/wifi-config.png?dl=0 (nunca/never)
I would be very thankful for all suggestions.
.wojtek said:
Hi,
(I'm on Ressurrection Remix 5.8.5 / Nougat 7.1.2 final, rooted; installed O+3 OB24 firmware)
Recently (around mid-Feb) I started having problems with battery life on my device. I haven't changed anything (significant, not that I remember) but it was annoying me so on the road to figuring out which app/part of the system could cause the battery drain I ended up with pure Resurrection Remix rom without any Gapps (or any other apps for that matter) and... battery was still draining like crazy (which only annoyed me more). And with helpers like WakeLockDetector it say that my device was in deep sleep less then 50% of the time (and it was mostly laying on the table!)
The other day I noticed that if I disable WiFi all of the sudden device got decent sleep time (about 10-25% of awake time, which was consistent with my use case). I check the settings of wifi and had "keep wifi on during sleep" set to 'always' (however from performance and battery drain perspective having wifi on and even having idle TCP connection open shouldn't drain battery that much). I switched it to 'keep on only while charging' (no effect) and then to 'never' (also no effect).
Then I turned to old friend - 'llama' aplication and configured it to disable wifi the moment I turn off the screen and then when I turn on the screen activate wifi. With that setup I went from having 20-25% by the end of the day (unplug the phone around 6-7am, check around 6-7pm, i.e. after 12h) to still having 70% left with the same usage/timeframe. Generally this could be it, but! This is still kinda semi-automatic and I would loose notification if I don't explicitly wake device.
I was under the impression that this should be handled by doze - i.e. if the phone is lying on the table it would force device into deep sleep and then periodically wake it up to allow apps to refresh it states. In my case it looks like something is preventing doze from working correctly and placing phone into deeps sleep. I wan't as low-level as my (current) knowledge let me and I'm kinda stuck and don't know what to check next or how to fix it.
After using llama to disable wifi while screen is of the wakelock by 'PowerManagerService.WakeLocks' went down significantly as well as awake time.
Battery details: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvf47nzx7ob5wc8/battery-details.png?dl=0 (wifi always on)
Wifi config: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2v65dugidp57rrd/wifi-config.png?dl=0 (nunca/never)
I would be very thankful for all suggestions.
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Is wifi/BT scanning on in Location? If so switch it off.
Also check whether the firmware you use is correct or requires updation.
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Is wifi/BT scanning on in Location? If so switch it off.
Also check whether the firmware you use is correct or requires updation.
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I have BT off (haven't used it in my life…)
As for wifi scanning - you mean notification about available networks? yes, its' off.
What do you mean about firmware? Could that affect radios? in that case - which firmware should I install with RR 5.8.5? I'm not sure if "the latest" is alwasy the best idea (problems with compatibility)
.wojtek said:
I have BT off (haven't used it in my life…)
As for wifi scanning - you mean notification about available networks? yes, its' off.
What do you mean about firmware? Could that affect radios? in that case - which firmware should I install with RR 5.8.5? I'm not sure if "the latest" is alwasy the best idea (problems with compatibility)
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Go to Settings>Location then click the three dot menu at top right, then click Scanning and disable wifi and BT scanning.
If that doesn't work, check on the ROM thread which firmware is recommended for your version of the ROM and flash it.
That one is also off.
As for firmware - I have (it seems) latest recommended one.