Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
Mabus the Mad said:
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
Hello everyone,
i am rather new to my GNex, till last week i had an N1 and was happy with it.
I am really happy with the new ICS/JB lockscreen enabling me to start the camera from the lockscreen and accessing google now from there, but its lacks the securety of any pin.
if i choose pin, password or gesture under securety the "normal" lockscreen is gone and i am presentet immediantly with the screen to enter my PIN.
with my N1 i first had to swipe to unlock the phone and then enter my PIN, my wife has an HTC One S and ist still has the same behavior.
is there any way to get that behavior back? as of right now i either have to choose the confort of the new lockscreen without any securety and0 give anyone getting hold of my phone full access, or the securety of a PIN without any confort.
as it is right now i can not even take my phone to work having the normal lockscreen enable and have to worry about everyone can use the phone when he finds it.
patlabor said:
Hello everyone,
i am rather new to my GNex, till last week i had an N1 and was happy with it.
I am really happy with the new ICS/JB lockscreen enabling me to start the camera from the lockscreen and accessing google now from there, but its lacks the securety of any pin.
if i choose pin, password or gesture under securety the "normal" lockscreen is gone and i am presentet immediantly with the screen to enter my PIN.
with my N1 i first had to swipe to unlock the phone and then enter my PIN, my wife has an HTC One S and ist still has the same behavior.
is there any way to get that behavior back? as of right now i either have to choose the confort of the new lockscreen without any securety and0 give anyone getting hold of my phone full access, or the securety of a PIN without any confort.
as it is right now i can not even take my phone to work having the normal lockscreen enable and have to worry about everyone can use the phone when he finds it.
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The easiest way to fix this would be to use a third party lockscreen, I've hear 'GO Locker' offers what you're after.
Or get an app lock application and choose which apps you need a password for. I personally like app locker pro. You can choose pin or pattern locks, whichever you prefer.
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I am currently using the stable CM10 and am wondering if there is a way to separate the screen unlock (simple swipe etc) from the security lock (pin or pattern) features.
I would prefer my screen to turn off after a few minutes or with power button, and then when reactivated require a swipe (puzzle lock etc) to access apps. The idea on this is preventing accidental app activation in a pocket etc, but having quick access to slider short cuts.
However, I would like it to require a secure pin or pattern to access after a longer preset time (some longer time out). The idea here is my phone is found or stolen from me, users can see my info on the home lock screen but cannot access anything else..
Is this possible?
Thank you,
Don
Should I post this somewhere else (not really a GSIII issue, more of a ROM issue)? Ideas, suggestions?
Thanks,
Don
Should have post in question section. But its ok now becoz mods goona move it there
Just like this
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I posted this in General, but have not had any responses.
I am currently using the stable CM10 and am wondering if there is a way to separate the screen unlock (simple swipe etc) from the security lock (pin or pattern) features.
I would prefer my screen to turn off after a few minutes or with power button, and then when reactivated require a swipe (puzzle lock etc) to access apps. The idea on this is preventing accidental app activation in a pocket etc, but having quick access to slider short cuts.
However, I would like it to require a secure pin or pattern to access after a longer preset time (some longer time out). The idea here is my phone is found or stolen from me, users can see my info on the home lock screen but cannot access anything else..
Is this possible?
Thank you ,
Don
This has been annoying me lately but I don't know when it started. I'm running 5.1.1, using fingerprint lock (tried also with pin lock, same thing), with a 10 minute delay of locking after screen off. For some reason, in the lock screen I no longer have access to quick settings, even when the screen isn't pin/fingerprint locked (within the 10 minutes). Was this changed on purpose for "security purposes" and now even when you don't want the lock screen protected, you have no access to quick settings?
Is it just me? Or is that the way it's meant to be/has always been?