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update question 10b

SO I am pretty new to the lg family coming from galaxy since the first one. but I am curious since I am still on the 10b firmware and don't want to update. if later in time they release something that unlocks the bootloader on 11a can I update using the kdz method even if Verizon releases a newer method than even 11a? sorry if this is confusing.

My suggestion would be to just root and get on the same firmware that everyone else is. You never know if something will come out blocking the ability to kdz but it's up to you
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Yeah i thought about it but what if they only find a way to unlock the bootloader on 10b. I screwed myself with the galaxy s4 with taking a system update. So now im extra cautions. But i am debating doing thhe update and if i do should i do the kdz or the ota method by verizon.
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I saw someone on the other forum that uploaded the 10b kdz file to have them root that one maybe just wait for that file to be rooted if you don't want to go to 11a. Personally I think they are going to use 11a if they find a bootloader unlock because that is the rooted firmware they put out in the first place.
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Yeah i also thought about that because i thought i remember someone saying it auto updated and they posted about not being able to roll back. But ill see if they root 10b within a day or 2 ill go that route if not ill update and do it the 11a route. I already downloaded everything for the 11a root but kinda am kickin my feet
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Hold tight, devs just got a 10b system image. We should see 10b rooted in the next day or two. I'm in the same boat, don't want to upgrade yet. I have a feeling we will see a bootloader work around rather than a full unlock.
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Sounds good and im completely happy with a work around. My s4 i had to use safestrap. But yeah thanks guys for all the help.
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ive made a post about the update you can get vs986a11 (next update) rooted, i crashed my 10b and now got it fixed and rooted check out this post and ope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...walk-threw-t3166078/post62055730#post62055730

Keep on 10b and if you do update do the manual way, Verizon update could potentially be an even newer one that just released and no one knew about yet, always do manual if possible in my opinion. Either way as everyone else suggested keep on 10b and wait for a root file for it which they said any day now.

Does anyone here kno how to save and also make a stock img from my phone. Im new to this and would like to kno how to proper have a back up and think it would be safe to have to stored when i do my root. Thanks in advance.
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TMO Update

Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward

tiguy99 said:
Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward
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As a rule of thumb if you plan to root, you should NEVER update. Updating will usually patch any exploits the devs use to root our phones. It depends on what you want to do with your phone down the line.... Update at your own risk.

@tiguy99, also it's definitely not MM. I'm not even sure 5.1.1 was ever released either.
I know the D851 has been unlocked from the get-go (didn't need bumping like the others in the past) but as the previous post alluded to, the OTA just might lock it down. Be sure and be careful.
LG G3 D851, PAC-MAN ROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5

Sorry, my post was not helpful. Here is something you can do: long press on the update notification and click on the "info" icon and disable the notification. This way you are less likely to accidentally update, and it won't bother you as much.

tiguy99 said:
Just got my D851 with stock 5.0.1 preinstalled.
Its telling me to update the phone.
Has anyone updated via the air method?
Not sure what it is but wanted to be sure if its MM or 5.1.1 before I moved forward
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If it is a stock D851 running on Tmo, then the update is probably the recent update of 20e (released back on June 9) to 20g (released back in October). There has been a lot of that just within the last 60 days. However, it is still Android 5.0.1. Tmo has NOT upgraded our G3 to anything beyond 5.0.1 yet, but has committed to updating us to Marshmallow Android 6, probably sometime in the next 3 months.
As for the update, all 20g did was patch the Stagefright vulnerability that had been discovered back in August. That was a vulnerability in Lollipop wordwide on all carriers. Look at your phone info under settings. If you are on 20e, it will not hurt at all to upgrade. But in any case, the update you are seeing is DEFINITELY NOT 5.1.1 and it is DEFINITELY NOT Marshmallow. It is still 5.0.1. Good luck.
Please hit the THANKS button if I helped you.

I got mine week ago and updated it didn't root but used Newest Root Method in general section and finally got it.

tangsta35 said:
As a rule of thumb if you plan to root, you should NEVER update. Updating will usually patch any exploits the devs use to root our phones. It depends on what you want to do with your phone down the line.... Update at your own risk.
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That being said, I made the mistake of updating. Now I'm having a very hard time trying to root my D851 20g. Can I restore to Kitkat for the purpose of rooting?

Dude this is the wrong forum for a question like this. Should be in Q&A or General. You'll get better answers there.

vance74 said:
That being said, I made the mistake of updating. Now I'm having a very hard time trying to root my D851 20g. Can I restore to Kitkat for the purpose of rooting?
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No need. Google 'Newest root method' D851 xda download file thru your browser double click on windows batch file. Follow prompts. Hope this helps you out.

I too got my D851 last week. It had KK 4.2.2 and wanted to update. So I decided to go ahead and do the OTA. The final result was 5.0.1 D85120g. I don't think there are any higher updates yet. Rooted without issue using Newest Root Method mentioned above, again, without issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
However, if you are still unsure, you can always downgrade to a lower version. You will have to do a search for D85110r in the KDZ file version and find the loader for that file. Took me a little time to find it but I have both the KDZ file and loader.

nytebird said:
No need. Google 'Newest root method' D851 xda download file thru your browser double click on windows batch file. Follow prompts. Hope this helps you out.
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I tried that 1 click method and it failed. I have the &D851 20g Lollipop 5.0.1. Any idea why it's failing other than error on my behalf?

vance74 said:
I tried that 1 click method and it failed. I have the &D851 20g Lollipop 5.0.1. Any idea why it's failing other than error on my behalf?
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I believe it's because you've downloaded 20G. Probably got patched. Did the method I mentioned work out for you?

nytebird said:
I believe it's because you've downloaded 20G. Probably got patched. Did the method I mentioned work out for you?
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Yes it finally did. I was busyviver the holidays but whenbi had some down time and peace and quiet I tried it. It wokwd perfect. Thanks again.

6.0 rooting

OK,seems I continue to post in the incorrect section so I"l try this again..recently my vs985 lg4 thru ota update was upgraded from 5.1 to 6.0- my questions are ,,, does kingroot work on the 6.0, I know it works on 5.1 as I previously had it rooted.and 2nd question is I'm having terrible battery life even with greenify working and the built in doze,is that a common problem..I didn't want to even try kingroot without asking first...thanks and hopefully I'm in the proper thread,section....

Nope, i've tried but no root for Android M for the LG G4. You'll have to go back to Lolipop

OK,not what I was hoping for,next question,do I just do a factory reset or does that not rest back to 5.1, as I originally had 5.1 but ota updates brought it to Mm..I truly do not like MM as battery life has been cut in half...

jlb1959.01 said:
OK,not what I was hoping for,next question,do I just do a factory reset or does that not rest back to 5.1, as I originally had 5.1 but ota updates brought it to Mm..I truly do not like MM as battery life has been cut in half...
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You have a VS986, not VS985.
A factory reset will put you back to Marshmallow.
You will need to use LGUP PC tool to flash your phone back to Lollipop using the 13B KDZ file.

Thanks,thts something way out of my league,got to look that up and read into how to do that without messing up,if I had known MM was soo bad with battery life I would never had done the upgrade,very glad I've found xda forum..next question does it matter if I have an lg3 or lg4? or is MM that difficult to root,i know its new upgrade but I can tell you personally that without root MM is terrible with battery life,my vs985 was great rooted on 5.1...and I thank this group VERY much for the advice I am getting...

jlb1959.01 said:
Thanks,thts something way out of my league,got to look that up and read into how to do that without messing up,if I had known MM was soo bad with battery life I would never had done the upgrade,very glad I've found xda forum..next question does it matter if I have an lg3 or lg4? or is MM that difficult to root,i know its new upgrade but I can tell you personally that without root MM is terrible with battery life,my vs985 was great rooted on 5.1...and I thank this group VERY much for the advice I am getting...
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i never put my g3 ion MM its still on kitkat, so dont try or you may be stuck with it, if you want MM that bad on the g3 get CM for it, if you want to root the lg g4 the right way. i have a step by step guide on how to root it, i wont do no MM downgrade as i do not wont the OTA on my G4. its still on 5.1 and happily rooted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/help/lgg4-13b-root-vs986-t3268354
thats my post rmember thats for 13b root method, dont try the KDZ with MM use lgup tool first then you can root your phone

jlb1959.01 said:
OK,not what I was hoping for,next question,do I just do a factory reset or does that not rest back to 5.1, as I originally had 5.1 but ota updates brought it to Mm..I truly do not like MM as battery life has been cut in half...
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Do a factory reset... Will help with battery life.
After any large update you should factory reset. Cleans up old files "basically corrupt files" not needed for the new OS.

Thank you...

Yeah, i should go back to Lolipop soon cause the default Launcher is not good for me. I want Z-Launcher https://www.zlauncher.com/ I also want all the bloatware gone

WAIDroid said:
Yeah, i should go back to Lolipop soon cause the default Launcher is not good for me. I want Z-Launcher https://www.zlauncher.com/ I also want all the bloatware gone
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+1 for Z-Launcher, so easy and convenient. No more spending time settings up screens and folders.

Thank you Laserwolf452..

jlb1959.01 said:
Thank you Laserwolf452..
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you are welcome

jlb1959.01 said:
OK,not what I was hoping for,next question,do I just do a factory reset or does that not rest back to 5.1, as I originally had 5.1 but ota updates brought it to Mm..I truly do not like MM as battery life has been cut in half...
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About the battery life it could be that the verizon apps are draining the battery, when i bought my phone i totally freak out becasuse it didnt last not even 8 hours, try to good to app manager settings and disable all verizon apps as well the NFL app that why solf your issue. At leats for me was the answer.

Yes your definitely correct,since my it a from 5.1 to 6.0 I've been eliminating unnecessary apps trying to solve my issue,several apps I need root and now that I am 6.0 that's been impossible,but ice eliminated a lot..
vs985 lg3

jlb1959.01 said:
Yes your definitely correct,since my it a from 5.1 to 6.0 I've been eliminating unnecessary apps trying to solve my issue,several apps I need root and now that I am 6.0 that's been impossible,but ice eliminated a lot..
vs985 lg3
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You dont need Root. you permanetly disable them just go to:
1) Setting
2) App Manager and localize the aplications of verizon and
3) Select one, later clic on disable (or Deactivate)

Get from Rooted Lollipop 13b to Stock Marshmallow

I'm tired of the problems and struggle I've had attempting to use my rooted G4. I'm currently on 13b rooted and it's been giving me problems. It randomly reboots and doesn't start up at times. And it's so sluggish. I've gotten a replacement because I flashed the wrong kdz. I just want my phone to work without all these problems. I just want to get to the stock Verizon MM for my G4. Is this possible?

You should be able to flash the MM kdz - they can be found here in the general section. Be sure to verify it is the correct kdz.
Keep in mind once you go to MM you won't be able to achieve root without downgrading back to LP. I think there is a downgrade thread here in general as well if you need it.
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Thank you I just downloaded the KDZ and flashed via LG UP. It installed without any problems. I'm aware that you can't root on MM, I'm ok with that. I need a break from rooting after all of this. Thank you I appreciate it!

Glad to see someone here not happy with rooting the G4. I don't find it worth the risk or the benefits worth it without the ability to flash custom roms. I've never rooted a phone without there being a way to install a custom recovery.
For anyone interested, The Android Central podcast discussed the topic of rooting and flashing roms a bit on their most recent episode. Most of them agreed that there isn't as much of a need anymore to root and flash roms and that it's kind of died down a bit. Features that people used to have to root their phones for are now available on most stock roms.
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ADoug said:
I'm tired of the problems and struggle I've had attempting to use my rooted G4. I'm currently on 13b rooted and it's been giving me problems. It randomly reboots and doesn't start up at times. And it's so sluggish. I've gotten a replacement because I flashed the wrong kdz. I just want my phone to work without all these problems. I just want to get to the stock Verizon MM for my G4. Is this possible?
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KDZ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/general/kdz-download-marshmallow-kdz-25a-lg-t3354556
how to install LGUP tool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igB5rnLRXSc&spfreload=10
i know at the end of the video it says close the app, but dont, just start it and you be upgraded to MM in no time just make sure upgrade is checked
if you want to start fresh, then you can just do what my video says to get refurbished checked
if you upgrade with a rooted rom you have to factory reset your phone inorder for MM to boot

Can verizions newest update be returned to a lower version or be rooted??

Guys I want to enable hotspot. My original g4 was one with series # that went into loop. I got a new one and damned thing has newest vs software and marshmallow on it. Help please lol

tigerh4rebz said:
Guys I want to enable hotspot. My original g4 was one with series # that went into loop. I got a new one and damned thing has newest vs software and marshmallow on it. Help please lol
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This thread will tell you how to downgrade from MM to LP. It works. I had the same problem you did.

Yep, That worked for me. You need to "return to stock" like post above and downgrade the firmware. Use the 13b firmware stock, so you can just flash over it with the 13b rooted file. Easiest way i found. And That is the program that MUST be used. The other way WILL fail every time.
We just need a UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER so we can custom recovery like TWRP and start flashing ROMS!