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[SOLVED] So...Can you USB tether? [solution # 25 no root required]

Seems to be mixed reviews that some can and some cannot. So what's the deal?

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Mine will let me but my web browser takes me to a page asking me to sign up for the Tethering service at $14.95/month.
Suppose the answer to the question is technically *yes*

I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.

jpnelson40 said:
I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.
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If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.

grabiarz said:
If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.
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That should be the case. It's hard to go from 2 years (roughly of course) of using all sorts of awesome roms on the HD2 to this locked up guy. Here's to the future though, cheers.

Yes, I can.

I can. No app needed. Built right in the stock rom

I see another difference from previous tethering on the Vibrant: from the T-Mobile support page:
"When your phone is serving as a Wi-Fi hotspot for otherdevices, you cannot access the Internet on the phone itself."
It seems that it isn't completely true: I can listen to Internet radio, use Firefox, at least some of the time. The Android Market seems to fail consistently, however (just hangs "loading...").
Does anyone understand why this change has been made, or what is it's purpose?

i still don't quite can figure out why some people are able to teather as is without root
yet, some other are unable to teather
it's something in the phone plan that you guys have?, or simply the SIM card? or maybe it's on the account side in Tmobile?

I put the new SIM in my nexus and tethered fine when I couldn't from this phone.
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Its in the wireless And Network settings under 'mobile hotspot'

Just tried to tether again this morning, it didn't work. It asks me to now add the plan.... Tethering was working.
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I suppose that in order to ask us to sign onto tethering, the data must be going through the phone already, so they must have some filter in place that detects that fact and blocks further data, pending your decision.

Theres definitely something with the sim card. Used the sim from my mt4g and tethering would start and the automatically turn off a few seconds later. Activated the new sim and now it stays on but directs me to the site to purchse the service. Bummer.
We need to root this thing quickly.
Wonder if that's one of the reasons why tmo wants us to use the sim included.
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ronin4740 said:
...Tethering service at $14.95/month.
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Holy crap. I pay less than that for unlimited data. That's more than half of what a full data plan costs on T-Mobile. I take it not may people buy it. I'm guessing some of the custom ROMs will port over native tethering from the international SGS2. I wonder if T-Mobile flags tethering for people not on a legit tethering plan?

I tried to tether my Touchpad but got the T-Mobile page saying to add tethering. Gotta wait for root to get free tethering and utilize those fast data speeds!

i was doing some reserach on this and figured out how t-mobile does it. if you noticed when you turn on tethering a popup generates and after you enable it the 4g disappears for a bit, apparently in the software the phone disconnect your current apn, epc.tmobile.com and changes to another apn built into the phone software which checks for the 14.99 feature so yea sucks hopefully once root is established we can get around this. if you want to test this turn on wifi tether and then go to your apn and try to select the epc.tmobile apn bubble it will go on and then disconnect immediately

Has anyone tried any other APN's?
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Here in the USA, T-Mobile charges $9.95/m for tethering. I chatted with T-Mobile asking them how come I cannot tether (brought to their promo page) and I was told that T-Mobile will be enforcing the T&Cs regarding tethering... that is, it's not allowed unless you pay for it.
I told them that my Vibrant and G2x tethered just fine to what he responded that this will change in the near future. He said that with the introduction of the SGS2 they will start to clamp down on tethering without a tethering plan.
Mind you, this is one T-Mo CSR and I don't know if it will really be policy. However, it's pretty clear that this is the case at least for the SGS2.

Wifi hot spot? VZW...

Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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When I select to turn it on, it runs through a "checking for subscription" then pops up an Error window that I'm not authorized to run it and have to call Customer Service. It was the first thing I tried as soon as I walked out of the VZW store this morning.

Greg Tolan said:
Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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I'd like to know this as well. Chances are though, you have to be rooted and the hotspot app will have to be hacked for it to be used without detection check by VZW. I am with Sprint OG Samsung Epic, and these were the necessary steps to get Sprint hotspot to work without having a plan. I am sure a dev will be able to get it done in time. In the meantime, suggest rooting and using either Barnacle tether or Wifi Tether, or if you want to stay stock: PDANet.

After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.

keatre said:
After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.

Framework patch. Give it a week. Or just pay for it.
dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.

dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.

pharpe said:
Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
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That's not the problem. Not being able to tether could potentially be a dealbreaker for some people (myself included).

Its blocked. You've got to root and remove the software they have for tracking tethering. Or wait for a CDMA custom ROM to come out that has unblocked tethering.
jumaaneface said:
Or just pay for it.
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LOL

If it's that big of a deal, pay for it then.

keatre said:
At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
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Yup. You'll just have to get a rom that has tethering open for all of our hearts' content!

Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.

triunetehk said:
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Using a 3rd party app doesn't remove Verizon's tracking software. They'll still see you're doing it based on my experiences w/ VZW phones...

I'm assuming you guys have tried Google's Wireless Tether app. No dice?

triunetehk said:
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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People aren't "stealing" bandwidth. They're paying for it and using it. This isn't even an argument in a world of capped data plans. If you pay for 2GB or 4GB or 10GB+, you're buying that bandwidth from VZW. Its yours to use. And carriers are being beyond ridiculous, forcing consumers to pay for data twice.
And it is crippling (albeit thats a bit dramatic) the OS. ICS (and 2.2, 2.3) has wired/wireless tethering enabled. Removing that, is removing a feature that used to make the OS whole.

Just to clear the air -
Currently - no matter what App you use, you cannot WiFi tether.
Verizon is blocking ALL WiFi tether - you will need to remove the check.

Thanks for the update. What are the chances that this check can be removed? I know people with the Bionic were having problems tethering (still not sure if they can).
This is a deal breaker for me, so I'm hoping it isn't something too complicated for the devs to remove.
P.S. Let's not turn this into a morality thread. This is a place to discuss whether or not you can get WiFi tethering working without paying extra for it.

This is a huge problem, I need to tether by next Thursday.

[Q] Hotspot Question

Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?

zeno163420 said:
Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?
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Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.

Thanks!
tobnddl said:
Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.
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Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!

zeno163420 said:
Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!
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They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.

ed20910 said:
They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.
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WoW, I guess its true they really ARE watching us ALL THE TIME...

Hotspot worked on Nexus 5. Pixel XL now checks for a subscription. Whats different?

I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot?
Thanks in advance.

This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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arcanexvi said:
This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?

guitarplayersteven said:
Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
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Once we get root there probably will be.

guitarplayersteven said:
Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
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Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
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arcanexvi said:
Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
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A representative at AT&T said this is a common problem with unlocked phones (One Plus owners specifically), and they have resolved this issue in the past. We'll see how far she gets. If she does not find a solution, I'll have to consider other options.
Thanks for your input.

Thrillhouse847 said:
Once we get root there probably will be.
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Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032

guitarplayersteven said:
Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
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That was fast.

guitarplayersteven said:
I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot? Thanks in advance.
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You can use this trick to get the hotspot going on your phone without root. I have tried it on my Pixel XL with ATT. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69229666&postcount=35
The Network Signal Refresher app you will need is here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atejapps.networksignalrefresher&hl=en My N6 checked with the death star for hotspot permission. Rooting the N6 and modifying two files had me tethering all I wanted. It is nice to be able to tether without root using the network app. If you tether up a storm, ATT may very well send you a text. One of the files that got modified on the N6 told the phone not to send all the tethering data through a specific tethering path via ATT. So even though you can get a hotspot on the Pixel, it will be easy for ATT to know you are tethering.

V35 + Cricket = no paid hotspot. WTF? help...

For years I have used a Leeco with a custom ROM as a hotspot for the Android head unit in my car. Last month, I got a warning about hotspot use and decided to go legit. The hotspot data got funky after the warning.
->I bought an LG V35 direct from Cricket, carrier unlocked
->I upgraded 5 family lines to the "Cricket More" plan that includes 15GB of hotspot data
But Cricket blocks all except a short list of phones from hotspot use even with a paid plan. I spent about an hour on the phone and they basically offered me nothing except to return the phone. No BYOD phones will work as a hotspot either except for iPhones.
What can I do? Has anyone else run into this? The custom ROM Leeco basically didn't work after the warning. Is anyone successfully using a V35 with a custom ROM as a hotspot?
Thanks for any help.
10/6/2019 Resolution for anyone else with a similar Problem:
1. it is difficult/impossible to bootloader unlock and root a LG V35. But that's not apparently the issue here.
2. Cricket only supports wifi hotspot on a short list of phones and all else including BYOD rooted/custom ROM devices are throttled to the point of uselessness even with a paid hotspot plan.
3. PDAnet works well but didn't work for my Android car headunit even after every known update.
4. I am using EasyConnect, a point-to-point screen mirroring app over USB, on the head unit and its OK. Not great but good enough to not trash Cricket and look for a new carrier.
Thanks!

Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.

I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.

cmrntnnr said:
Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.
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Thanks, there seems to be 2 things going on. 1st is the tether provisioning check. One can turn the provisioning check off (most custom ROMs have done this and it was what I did with my Leeco); or you can pay the carrier. For my v35 I paid the carrier and it still didn't work since there is some 2nd network check that isn't visible to me.. What runderekrun describes is exactly what happened to me.

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I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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Thanks, that is helpful. For me, I went years with no trouble and then got a warning text followed by the throttling. It was very, very slow.
I just tried PDAnet+ and it worked! Hurray! seems to need the app to act as a passthrough but I can live with that. I have not tried it on the head unit yet but it's fundamentally just a big Android tablet and PDAnet just worked on my tablet that is actually a tablet. Thanks!

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I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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PDAnet+ worked my S3 tablet and Windows laptop. But did *not* operate for my Android head unit. Any tips for figuring it out?