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How is the nexus 5X on Verizon? I'm coming from the HTC One M8, and I've never had an unlocked phone before. Since the M8 has a nano sim i've heard that you can just pop it in the 5X and be up and running.
I've found no issue with my 5X on Verizon. I was previously using a 2013 Moto X so I simply removed the nano SIM from my Moto X and popped it into my 5X. It connected right up to Verizon's network and I was able to make/receive calls and use the Internet as expected. I've not attempted to setup HD Voice or simultaneous voice/data - but it's currently doing everything my Moto X was doing before the SIM swap.
Came from an S6, and I've had no issues so far. Just popped my nano sim in and I was up and running. There's an option under Cellular Network Settings called Enhanced 4G LTE Mode, which activates VoLTE and it works great. Only thing I've noticed is that it looks like VZW is blocking the latest OTA's...they can easily be sideloaded, but it's still annoying.
Mine works perfectly, in fact data has been more consistent than my old phone I bought that was locked to verizon. I did have to get a new sim card but I got it set up and it hasn't had any problems whatsoever.
I was trying 5x and moto x pure (2015) side by side and moto x reported better signal consistently. I even RMAed the 5x thinking there was a hardware issue, but the second unit had similar signal strength.
The moto x was on lollipop so there could have been a difference in the reporting of signal ? (Not sure) But the 5x did however drop to 3g more often than the moto x, but the 5x quickly regained lte.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! My 5X should arrive in a few days, can't wait lol
So Verizon is no longer blocking any phone that has an ESN that isn't in their system already?
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I'm on my 3rd device now on vzw. My problem has been 100% software however. The phone has struggled and failed to receive mms (primarily group messaging) on both previous devices. On the device I got today I didn't insert my sim until the device was set up and the device had an OTA waiting. I installed the software update and viola, no more mms problems. It is worth noting that my previous device was on an older build and reported no updates so I would recommend setting up on WiFi before popping the sim in
Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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I don't know that I would say it is "immune"; but I initially used my 5X on Verizon, and I do not recall any of the Verizon-related apps being installed on my 5X.
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Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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I just received my N5X yesterday and activated it on Verizon. Since it is the exact same phone that is used for all carriers, there is not a single app related to Verizon pre-installed on this thing.
I turned it on and got an update prompt as soon as I got to the home screen, but I wanted to manually flash the latest release anyways so I didn't bother to see what version it was trying to upgrade me to.
With the Nexus devices, Google will release the updates publicly, so I would recommend learning how to apply them yourself rather than waiting for an OTA on the phone.
cambunch said:
I just received my N5X yesterday and activated it on Verizon. Since it is the exact same phone that is used for all carriers, there is not a single app related to Verizon pre-installed on this thing.
I turned it on and got an update prompt as soon as I got to the home screen, but I wanted to manually flash the latest release anyways so I didn't bother to see what version it was trying to upgrade me to.
With the Nexus devices, Google will release the updates publicly, so I would recommend learning how to apply them yourself rather than waiting for an OTA on the phone.
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Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
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Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
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The OTAs would come from Google. Verizon is very hands-off on this device (they don't even have a thumbnail image for it under your account page on their website).
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This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this?
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You'd order the 5X from Google (or whoever) and it will be the general U.S. device -- same one you would use on AT&T, etc. All you need to do is put a VZW nano sim w/ NFC in it (either a preexisting one you have, or a corporate store will give you one for free if you are a current customer). So, there will be no pre-installed VZW bloat. The only thing I would be careful of is the Play Store -- it will have a record of all prior apps installed, some of which (unless your remove them from your account history) will be VZW bloat. I would be careful to set up your phone as a new device during initial set up and also be careful about what you allow the Play Store to do automatically. Presumably if it did install bloat from your account history you could just uninstall but why risk it.
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Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
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They come from Google. Carriers have a limited ability to delay Android version updates but not security updates. Google's official policy statement is here (scroll down to "Timing for software updates" | "Nexus devices"). For what it is worth, I am on VZW and I received the March update over-the-air on the first or second day it was available. You can always sideload via stock recovery in any event -- you don't need to be rooted or unlock your bootloader, but you do need a USB A-to-C cable (unless your computer has a USB C port).
No doubt I am guilty of resurrecting an old thread but this is the question I have. The N5X has a few different model numbers and I need to make sure I buy one that works on Verizon, or a Verizon MVNO. The inclusive list is: H790 (TD-LTE), H791 (TD-LTE), H791F (LTE-A), and the H798 (TD-LTE). The 790 & 798 feature CDMA bands so I suspect it is these...
People selling these have no clue...
Can anyone help me answer this question?
I'm thinking of taking my AT&T Note 5 to StraightTalk to save some money. From what I've read I'll no longer be able to receive the "monthly" security updates if I'm not on the network any more. If this is the case, is there any way I could download them and side load like we all did with the MM update?
This is my first carrier branded phone after a Nexus 5 and a Galaxy Nexus, so being locked to a carrier is a whole new/horrible world to me.
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I'm thinking of taking my AT&T Note 5 to StraightTalk to save some money. From what I've read I'll no longer be able to receive the "monthly" security updates if I'm not on the network any more. If this is the case, is there any way I could download them and side load like we all did with the MM update?
This is my first carrier branded phone after a Nexus 5 and a Galaxy Nexus, so being locked to a carrier is a whole new/horrible world to me.
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Yes is is possible . You will loose all your data , but if you ok with this let me know what is your build?
If you never download anything from AT&T server you need to read more. I can do it for you just need to know about your build.
I have the same question - unlocked my at&t note 5 and am using cricket. I went through ODIN to get to 6.0.1, but my company requires a more recent android security patch. While it's a bummer to have to once again factory wipe my dang phone, I'm happy to give it a try. Do you have any links on how to download from AT&T server - I always get forbidden (and have tinkered with useragent settings with no luck). Thanks!!!
I have done some search over the Internet and got different answers from different people
1. What's the difference between the unlocked and the Verizon phone sold in the Google store? Is the Verizon version bootloader or SIM locked and not unlockable? What's the difference if you buy an unlocked phone and got a SIM from Verizon separately, vs you buy a Verizon version?
2. What's the difference between the two OTA versions:
8.0.0 (OPD1.170816.025, Nov 2017, EMR)
8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR)
Some says there are some verizon apps included if you download that version. Is it the only difference?
cescman said:
I have done some search over the Internet and got different answers from different people
1. What's the difference between the unlocked and the Verizon phone sold in the Google store? Is the Verizon version bootloader or SIM locked and not unlockable? What's the difference if you buy an unlocked phone and got a SIM from Verizon separately, vs you buy a Verizon version?
2. What's the difference between the two OTA versions:
8.0.0 (OPD1.170816.025, Nov 2017, EMR)
8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR)
Some says there are some verizon apps included if you download that version. Is it the only difference?
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Verizon version bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked
google version can be unlocked if you want
google + version sim or any sim will work (no contract :good
8.0.0 (OPD1.170816.025, Nov 2017, EMR)
8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR)
the same
the only different version apps are disabled by default on the first and enabled on the second
Then why would anyone buy the Verizon version phone?
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Then why would anyone buy the Verizon version phone?
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I guess maybe because of contracts or contract extensions or of discounts at verizon.
cescman said:
Then why would anyone buy the Verizon version phone?
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Because people want a top tier phone when they can't afford it. So payment plans and kick backs from vzw
Lawlrus said:
Because people want a top tier phone when they can't afford it. So payment plans and kick backs from vzw
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I thought they cost the same at Google store?
cescman said:
I thought they cost the same at Google store?
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Vzw offers better prices on trade ins, a payment plan like Google does, plus they offer promos sometimes where Google does not
The radio.img is different on the Verizon build as well.
If you have a Pixel 2 XL from the Google Store and use it on Verizon, which OTA should you use for sideloading? I want the November patch and am considering sideloading it since it's not showing up for me yet, but I don't want to apply the wrong one. (Would it let me?)
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Verizon version bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked
google version can be unlocked if you want
google + version sim or any sim will work (no contract :good
8.0.0 (OPD1.170816.025, Nov 2017, EMR)
8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR)
the same
the only different version apps are disabled by default on the first and enabled on the second
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I have to disagree with most of the respondents here; I'm on Verizon. I bought an unlocked version from google (without sim card); my phone is unlocked. When my phone received the November update it was 8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR). There were no verizon apps in the update.
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If you have a Pixel 2 XL from the Google Store and use it on Verizon, which OTA should you use for sideloading? I want the November patch and am considering sideloading it since it's not showing up for me yet, but I don't want to apply the wrong one. (Would it let me?)
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If you bought it from the Google store, use EMR. Don't use Verizon. You cannot apply the wrong one. The OTA will fail if it cannot confirm that it is the correct device.
Wifi calling. Carriers have had the policy of only allowing Wifi calling on their own phones, not unlocked versions.
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If you have a Pixel 2 XL from the Google Store and use it on Verizon, which OTA should you use for sideloading? I want the November patch and am considering sideloading it since it's not showing up for me yet, but I don't want to apply the wrong one. (Would it let me?)
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I have the Google Store unlocked Pix 2 XL, and it runs either version of November software. Gets good Verizon signal on both.
I decided to stay with the Verizon version. Remember to update Android Tools before you do this.
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I have to disagree with most of the respondents here; I'm on Verizon. I bought an unlocked version from google (without sim card); my phone is unlocked. When my phone received the November update it was 8.0.0 (OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon EMR). There were no verizon apps in the update.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/mysterious-frozen-disabled-items-apps-t3701958
on Verizon version these apps are enabled
on google version they are disabled
when you set up the phone it was disabled
if you apply an update any disabled app will stay the same
If you have a Verizon SIM, I would go with the OPD3. This recommendation is based off the Verizon OPD3 having a different radio than OPD1. My guess, OPD3 is tuned for Verizon somehow.
I actually created a standalone thread with some information and findings, feel free to take a look...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/testing-performed-factual-information-t3702662
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Wifi calling. Carriers have had the policy of only allowing Wifi calling on their own phones, not unlocked versions.
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Verizon wifi calling works just fine on the Google store unlocked Pixel 2 XL. I've done it many times. But you're right, this is different from the norm.
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Verizon wifi calling works just fine on the Google store unlocked Pixel 2 XL. I've done it many times. But you're right, this is different from the norm.
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How did you get wifi calling to work on unlocked phone with verizon?
EDIT: I figured it out. It says unable to activate.... so it is still not working for me. How did you activate?
jedil1c1ous said:
Wifi calling. Carriers have had the policy of only allowing Wifi calling on their own phones, not unlocked versions.
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@rester555
This fixes that. Even though that specific thread is for the og pixel xl the same adb commands work on the 2 xl.
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If you have a Verizon SIM, I would go with the OPD3. This recommendation is based off the Verizon OPD3 having a different radio than OPD1. My guess, OPD3 is tuned for Verizon somehow.
I actually created a standalone thread with some information and findings, feel free to take a look...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/testing-performed-factual-information-t3702662
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Good post about Verizon sims and Google Unlocked version. Have you by any chance relocked and then unlocked your
Px2 XL bootloader when using Verizon sim and software? I could not do that on similar original PixelXL.
Thanks.
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How did you get wifi calling to work on unlocked phone with verizon?
EDIT: I figured it out. It says unable to activate.... so it is still not working for me. How did you activate?
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I just enabled the setting and it worked. It worked on both the stock out of the box firmware and on 8.1 dev preview. I'm not sure if the latest OTA broke it or not because I won't have my replacement phone until this evening.
I've been checking it since yesterday. No luck so far
No for me I'm still on DP2 still nothing
My Pixel 2 XL isn't a Verizon one, but the Pixel 2 phones we just got in for work did get 8.1 today.
Still no OTA over dp2 here either... VZW
Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
I'm on Verizon and still haven't received the update yet.
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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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For various valid reasons, that's not always an option or a preference for some people.
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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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I don't think so. I tried it and it kept failing. Looking at the list of OTAs there are separate 8.0 files for Verizon so I think we need to wait.
Just because they were separate one month, doesn't mean that will be the case the next month. The separate builds might come together into a unified build and then split again the month after.
In the case of the December build, there is one build for all carriers. Verizon's support page has the same build number listed as what's on the Google OTA page. https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-2-xl-update/
Yes and no
I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"
Still waiting here. I get message that I'm up to date when using system update, patched to Nov 7th.
Verizon is my carrier, but I bought the non-Verizon 128GB
I'm on DP2 and got my 8.1 final last night. Unlocked from Google on Verizon.
Also, if you bought your phone from Verizon, you CAN sideload the OTA. There were people on here with Verizon bought phones that sideloaded the non-Verizon OTA for the November security update. Plus, some Verizon users have gotten the update. I'm *thinking* Google just released one version this time.
I received it yesterday late afternoon. 64GB version bought from Verizon.
Just got it this morning, beta program, Pixel 2 XL 128GB Verizon.
still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network
What are the noteworthy upgrades that come with 8.1?
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fixxxer0 said:
still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network
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Received update yesterday. I was running DP2, unlocked Google Store version on Vzw network.
I received mine last night.
64GB purchased from Verizon.
Haven't had a chance to test the Bluetooth issues I've been having with my Gear S3 Frontier and my vehicle to see if they have been resolved.
Noticed that once in a while my screen will flash white when I grab it while the Always On display is active(4 times in the past 24 hours). Didn't have that behavior with 8.0.
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I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"
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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?
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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?
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You got me on that one...and I am still waiting on the update. Just to clarify, got them at Best Buy (each about a month apart), Verizon is my carrier. Then I come to read that some people had ordered the phones, through Verizon last week, received the phone on Monday, and got the update Wednesday...oh well.
Just a quick question, but will I get security updates on my Pixel 2xl the day they're released (ie. today) while being on Koodo? Or will they block it and I'll need to flash it myself?
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Just a quick question, but will I get security updates on my Pixel 2xl the day they're released (ie. today) while being on Koodo? Or will they block it and I'll need to flash it myself?
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I don't know anything about the Koodo MVNO, but Security updates are always on a phased roll out schedule by IMEI over the course of 2-3 weeks. You could get it today... or 3 weeks from now, or never. Maybe this will help you decide. The full factory image for September is waiting for you HERE right now. Or you can just read about it HERE.
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I don't know anything about the Koodo MVNO, but Security updates are always on a phased roll out schedule by IMEI over the course of 2-3 weeks. You could get it today... or 3 weeks from now, or never. Maybe this will help you decide. The full factory image for September is waiting for you HERE right now. Or you can just read about it HERE.
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Do you know if AT&T Prepaid plans delay updates?
.......sorry posted on wrong topic.
He's saying that it's not carrier controlled for the updates. So the answer would be no. If you can't wait a day or few, learn to sideload the OTA. It's literally to commands and it's installed in a few minutes. That what I just did this morning.
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Do you know if AT&T Prepaid plans delay updates?
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I'm on Koodo but bought directly from Google. Got update OTA same afternoon it was released.