Zenfone ZE500CL vs ZE500KL - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm sorry for making so many threads but i'm really really confused:
There are too many Zenfone variants and now i'm oriented on one of these two:
The ZE500CL, with an Intel Atom Z2560 dual core ( 1,8 GHz) and a 3000Mah battery (8Gb version only)
And the ZE500KL, with a Snapdragon 410 quad core (1.2Ghz) and a 2070Mah battery (16Gb version only).
No NFC in the KL but better camera.
Gorilla Glass 4 in the KL and GG3 in the CL (but TFT the KL and IPS the CL)
People say that battery life is comparable, even if the CL has a bigger battery (but i can't find any effective benchmark)
There are any other aspect i should consider in my choice?
Thanks a lot!

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[GENERAL HELP] Post Your Questions Here Instead of Making a New Thread

Many people are joining xda on daily basis. Some of them join the forum to get custom ROMs while some join in order to get some of their problem that they are facing with their phones solved.
There are dedicated threads for ROMs but what about HELP/QUESTIONS??
People generally straight away start a new thread to get their doubts solved. But this can lead to chaos in the forum.
I'm creating this thread as an alternative to *New Threads* that aim to resolve a question.
Not only this, this thread can also become a Database kind of place where people can look if their question is already solved or not...
I request all members of the ASUS ZENFONE 2 sub-forum to help and answer some questions posted here if they can.
I hope you guys get the idea behind this thread...
Is intel developer friendly ???
Kanth's said:
Is intel developer friendly ???
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This will be a great phone once developer starting developing roms for this phone.
Hi
I like this phone, but how I realized there is a 2 version of ZenFone 2? One will be cheaper and the other more expensive. Please what is the difference?
Will both phones use the same camera and processor?
And where I could see the picture samples of Zenfone 2?
Thx a lot
Query
Is it possible to chop off Un wanted stuff from Zen UI n build a lollipop's OG framework into the. stock rom
On screen Nav bar .Notification drawer n Settings app like Stock .Android ...???????????
Accounts n Screen Pinning .......Not the Nooby Kids mode LOL
If yes I'm buying it Cause The camera and Build Q is amazing for the price
Zenfone 2 Explained
wavexda said:
Hi
I like this phone, but how I realized there is a 2 version of ZenFone 2? One will be cheaper and the other more expensive. Please what is the difference?
Will both phones use the same camera and processor?
And where I could see the picture samples of Zenfone 2?
Thx a lot
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$149 ~~~720p display .2GB RAM 1.8 GHZ intel atom Z3560
$199~~~~1080p display . 2GB RAM 1.8 GHz Intel Atom Z3560.
$299~~~~~1080p display .4GB RAM .....Intel Atom 2.3 GHz Z3580
All of them have 4G LTE Cat 4 FDD LTE
They share same Power VR GPU
Quick Charge 2.0 & Double Tap 2 wake and Sleep ........
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$149 ~~~720p display .2GB RAM 1.8 GHZ intel atom Z3560
$199~~~~1080p display ................""""""""""""...................'.....
$299~~~~~...."....."""""""....4GB RAM .....Intel Atom 2.3 GHz Z3580
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From where you got the info about the prices? Or is just a guess? I also think that the high specs version would have the price of 299.
Anyone knows how are these processors with the battery life.?
GUESS
Darkuso said:
From where you got the info about the prices? Or is just a guess? I also think that the high specs version would have the price of 299.
Anyone knows how are these processors with the battery life.?
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Last Year Zen Fone 4,5.6. Price Point will be followed ...........
Camera Details On lower end version. is unknown
To my understanding atom processors are nowhere near the performance of current generation ARM.. Has anything changed? Is this cpu comparable to anything released in the last year?
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To my understanding atom processors are nowhere near the performance of current generation ARM.. Has anything changed? Is this cpu comparable to anything released in the last year?
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Benchmarks report the higher end one in zenphone 2 is comparable to snap Dragon 805. Not sure about battery efficiency.
In terms of real world performance, the Intel CPUs are very satisfying. I have a very old CloverTrail CPU in my Venue 8 tablet, and it feels just as snappy as the Snapdragon 800 in my phone, even though the 800 blows it away in benchmarks.
The big question is how is the ROM and dev support going to be for this phone.
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In terms of real world performance, the Intel CPUs are very satisfying. I have a very old CloverTrail CPU in my Venue 8 tablet, and it feels just as snappy as the Snapdragon 800 in my phone, even though the 800 blows it away in benchmarks.
The big question is how is the ROM and dev support going to be for this phone.
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That's good to hear! I'm excited about this phone assuming 1) unlocked bootloader + source release and 2) Dev support
So since I am new here and found this thread I had to ask..
I am intrigued by the Zenfone 2 but I like the Oneplus One as well..
I am an iOS user (got really tired of it.. ) and I am going to switch to Android.
The advice I've been given is to search if there are going to be custom ROMs and support before buying a phone!
Is there a reason to wait for the Zenfone 2 over the Oneplus One?
(Planning on using a custom ROM so it will have "pure" android (propably CM, dunno still searching) )
Thnx in advance
Considering the specs on the ZenFone 2 are basically the same as all these 7-10" Windows tablets, how long before you think before we see full Windows 8.1/10 on the ZenFone 2?
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BeriaddaN said:
So since I am new here and found this thread I had to ask..
I am intrigued by the Zenfone 2 but I like the Oneplus One as well..
I am an iOS user (got really tired of it.. ) and I am going to switch to Android.
The advice I've been given is to search if there are going to be custom ROMs and support before buying a phone!
Is there a reason to wait for the Zenfone 2 over the Oneplus One?
(Planning on using a custom ROM so it will have "pure" android (propably CM, dunno still searching) )
Thnx in advance
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Having owned the OnePlus One and a Note 3 with CM11, they are both very nice. I have a good feeling about the ZenFone 2 though. More "open" hardware. You may also look at the Lenovo P90 (much bigger battery). The #1 advantage of the ZF2 or the P90 is that they both run 64bit processors, so they are ready for 64bit Android.
Is the Zenfone2 gonna work on Verizon Network?
Darkuso said:
From where you got the info about the prices? Or is just a guess? I also think that the high specs version would have the price of 299.
Anyone knows how are these processors with the battery life.?
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With the 720p model, it'll be a 5 inch phone, right?
Go for ASUS you wont regret it!
If the price is acceptable,this one definitely will be a hot item.Asus is very committed in costumer satisfaction.their is extremely fast in software upgrading. Asus strategies in marketing have fortunes both side.for example,after zenfone 5 Lte out with kitkat ,month later(l believed its take a month just because its had a different cpu vendor) all previous Zenfone series also received same upgrading and all leftover stock in market becomes high demanded until need to refill. Now zenfone 5 is conquer over 4 Asean country and the funny things is I,the early owner of zenfone 5 still use jb because its alredy bugless in last jb version(finally usb OTG support) .In my country,zenfone 5 is one of hot items and now I'm very proud to shows off my fone to my friends cause its so popular. Now zenfone its definitely on theirs list.Thank you Asus for my dignity
WHAT about GPL compliance of ASUS.... was there any word about device tree and source code???
how did xda opened a thread for zenfone 2????
Hello everyone
I intend to buy a new phone but with dual card. I wanted to buy Xiaomi MI Note, but the cost is huge so I gave up. I stumbled upon a phone AusuZenfon2. As I watched some clips on YT seems that his camera much good. In Xioamia Mi Note camera is even better than the iPhone 6 Plus. I hope and Zenfonu 2 will be good camera.
What interests me is:
1. How satisfied are you with you thus far zenfonom users in general?
2. Procesor which is located in the Zenfone2 (64-bit Intel Atom 3560/3580 Quad Core Processor (Running at 1.8 / 2.3GHz) PowerVR Series 6 - G6430, with OpenGL 3.0 support), so I interesujeu which rank this processor in compared to the Snapdragon family? 800, 801 or maybe 805?
3. Does really feature HDR blacklight gives such good pictures in low light or is just marketing trick?
4. Will it will be 4K recording and slowmotion 240fps in zenfonu 2?
5. Zenfone 2 will have two models, one of 2GB and the other 4GB Ram. Is the difference only in RAM or a even a change?
Advance very grateful
PS I see the comments someone goes dead motherboard. How is this happening? And if this is a common problem with this phone?
P.S2 .. I looked at photos Zenfon 5 :crying:and unfortunately photos are bad phone that I now have a Xioami Mi3 and captures a lot of good pictures. Will Zenfone 2 have a better camera than Zenfona 5?
evilbobvu said:
Is the Zenfone2 gonna work on Verizon Network?
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Unfortunately not. Verizon works on CDMA network which is not supported by Zenfone 2 and is not supported by a lot of other phones. Verizon also uses LTE network and it is currently the broader LTE network in the USA. You can check the coverage here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/. The Verizon LTE network bands will be supported by some models of Zenfone 2. You could theoretically use Zenfone 2 on Verizon, but then you have to use voip instead of standard calling and depend fully on the LTE in general.
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wavexda said:
Hello everyone
I intend to buy a new phone but with dual card. I wanted to buy Xiaomi MI Note, but the cost is huge so I gave up. I stumbled upon a phone AusuZenfon2. As I watched some clips on YT seems that his camera much good. In Xioamia Mi Note camera is even better than the iPhone 6 Plus. I hope and Zenfonu 2 will be good camera.
What interests me is:
1. How satisfied are you with you thus far zenfonom users in general?
2. Procesor which is located in the Zenfone2 (64-bit Intel Atom 3560/3580 Quad Core Processor (Running at 1.8 / 2.3GHz) PowerVR Series 6 - G6430, with OpenGL 3.0 support), so I interesujeu which rank this processor in compared to the Snapdragon family? 800, 801 or maybe 805?
3. Does really feature HDR blacklight gives such good pictures in low light or is just marketing trick?
4. Will it will be 4K recording and slowmotion 240fps in zenfonu 2?
5. Zenfone 2 will have two models, one of 2GB and the other 4GB Ram. Is the difference only in RAM or a even a change?
Advance very grateful
PS I see the comments someone goes dead motherboard. How is this happening? And if this is a common problem with this phone?
P.S2 .. I looked at photos Zenfon 5 :crying:and unfortunately photos are bad phone that I now have a Xioami Mi3 and captures a lot of good pictures. Will Zenfone 2 have a better camera than Zenfona 5?
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Nobody uses the Zenfone 2 because it's not on the market yet. I have Asus tablet based on (an older) Intel SoC and I'll try to answer to your questions on the base of that experience:
1. I'm really satisfied with the tablet. It is fast, stable and modest in energy consumption.
2. Intel 3580 is generally considered better SoC than any of Snapdragons you mentioned and has better Antutu Results. Besides only the newest of Snapdragons 805 (and 810) is 64-bit, but both are 28nm, so they are likely less energy efficiently than Intel Atom 3560/3580, which are 22nm thick.
3. It's not a market trick. You can get live tests of camera performance.
4. yes.
5. It's not known yet, but I assume that Asus plans to offer entry level model with Intel 3560, 2GB RAM and lower resolution and high end with Intel 3580, 4GB RAM and higher resolution. Starting price for the first model is supposed to be $199 and for the second one $299. Additional ROM will probably increase the price. And there are still modifications which are not sorted out yet regarding LTE antennas regarding selling territory and 5 inch model which is currently still a big mystery.

New ZenFone 2 models on the Horizon!

Hey guys I just got down watching a couple of videos from Mobilegeeks on YouTube and I found out that they covered the Snapdragon versions of the ZenFone 2. The New ZenFones seem to be a minor upgrade from the Intel based version. I will sent you guys a link to all the models.
But I have a question to all ZenFone 2 users that have the Intel version: When the Snapdragon versions come out will you be switching from the Intel version or will you stay with the Intel version
Snapdragon version= Development and custom Roms are most likely
Intel version= still development, but very little Roms.
Let me know what you guys think of this
Sent from my ZE550ML
Also I'm sorry Moderators I put this in the question and answer thread. I forgot I wasn't in the general thread. Whoops
Sent from my ZE550ML
It's the Zenfone Selfie. It's got a 13MP front and Rear facing camera, and the processor is a Snapdragon 615. AFAICT, that's the only difference. And they haven't said anything about price or availability.
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Personally, I'm sticking with the Intel one because our Intel chip scores higher than the SD 615 in real world performance.
Alcatel iDOL 3 has Snapdrogan 615 and price $249 , which also comes with ? 64 bit Android ?(pre orders got at $199 which like me! much thinner than Asus zenfone 2 , 64 gb
but unfortunately ROM ,MODS are limited
I am assuming because of NEW CPU 615 ,
Yeah I am sticking with the Intel version because it overpowers the Sd 615 and 801 in performance. I will be happy if we at least get a unlocked boot loader and Official Root instead of Preroot. I heard there are more models of the ZenFone 2. One with a 6 inch screen, screens 5inch screen and there called Ze500KL and ZE600KL.
Sent from my ZE550ML

ZE550KL/SD615/3GB vs ZE550ML?

I am a casual gamer and battery life is pretty important for me. I was waiting for 5.1 update for ZF2 before buying ZE550ML. However I noticed that the ZE550KL (Laser) with Snapdragon 615 and 3GB RAM is almost the same price. Would this be a better buy for me? Anyone having used both the chipsets can give their experience.
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I am a casual gamer and battery life is pretty important for me. I was waiting for 5.1 update for ZF2 before buying ZE550ML. However I noticed that the ZE550KL (Laser) with Snapdragon 615 and 3GB RAM is almost the same price. Would this be a better buy for me? Anyone having used both the chipsets can give their experience.
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The idol 3 runs that processor while have 2gb of ram and it has stutters and lag. And the idol 3 is basically stock android and not heavily skinned like the 550.
but since its using a snapdragon instead of the Intel like the other models. I don't know if there will be any root or custom roms for the laser model if that is something you can wait for then go for the cheapest one you can get.
903tex said:
The idol 3 runs that processor while have 2gb of ram and it has stutters and lag. And the idol 3 is basically stock android and not heavily skinned like the 550.
but since its using a snapdragon instead of the Intel like the other models. I don't know if there will be any root or custom roms for the laser model if that is something you can wait for then go for the cheapest one you can get.
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Better recheck those specs for the ZE550KL as it has only 2GB of RAM not 3GB

ASUS ZenFone 2 Laser ZE550KL Wasteful ?

Hi, Everyone. I'm a new member here
I had problem with my phone.
Not long ago, I bought a new phone "ASUS ZenFone 2 Laser 16 GB ZE550KL" (Lollipop 5.0)
I felt my phone battery is so wasteful.
This is my chronology :
After I bought this phone, I immediately charge my phone until full battery.
After I charge my phone, during one full day after I charge my phone. I don't use my phone at all.
But, my phone battery is reduced 5%.
Everyday my phone always reduced at least 5% battery, Although I don't use.
I'm so frustrated about it :crying:
Has anyone experienced like me ? or there is a problem of my phone ?
Master, give me advice and tips. About it and How to keep my phone is so efficient battery ?
Thankyou very much master-master here
*My Phone Spesification :
5.5"
4G LTE
Android Lollipop 5.0
Internal 16GB
Ram 2GB
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410
Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
CPU Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53
Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & quad-core 1.0 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU Adreno 306
Adreno 405
Removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery

Android car radio with Snapdragon 625

Android 9, 4+64G Snapdragon 625 octa-core SoC with eight ARM Cortex-A53 cpu cores 14 nm Car Multimedia Navigation System for BMW 3 5 Series M3 M5 E60 E90 EW963.
Does anyone know this brand and is this the first android car radio brand that uses a Snapdragon 625 cpu?
https://ewaying.com/collections/bmw...navi-support-idrive-steering-wheel-id6-ew963a
Seems like it is indeed the first radio to have a SnapDragon CPU. That's a big positive step for performance with these radios. The SnapDragon CPU's are faster, more powerful and much more responsive than the laggy RockChip ones.
See here: https://www.notebookcheck.net/625-vs-RK3288_8168_6984.247596.0.html
This is the only brand I've seen with it, so hopefully that will pan out to more brands using this chip and hopefully soon we'll get a Universal model that will drop into almost any car setup we have.

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