Power button issues - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III

So, I know our phones are getting old, but I was wondering if anyone has experienced issues with, shall we say, an itchy power button? I was having some stability issues with my GS3. Some issues were clearly software-related, so I wiped and started fresh with new firmware and a fresh ROM (running AICP). However, during the process, I removed the phone from the case (Otterbox commuter case) and noticed that the power button is a little wiggly and super sensitive, and sometimes doesn't "unpress" after I use it to shut off the screen and lock the phone, causing a forced reboot and problems getting it to fire up again. Also causes issues trying to force the phone to restart into download and/or recovery and instead sometimes bootloops because the button is still activated/"pressed". Pretty much any time I (or my pants pocket) touch the power button, it powers down and I have to gingerly restart and pull on the rubber button on the case to keep it from a boot loop.
Anyone have any ideas? I know the phone is old and probably not worth paying for a repair, but I can't afford a new phone and with lollipop it's otherwise still running pretty well. I'm trying to access the power menu from the dropdown instead of actually using the physical button, and using the home button to wake the phone, but it's freakin' annoying when the phone shuts down in my pocket and I don't realize it.

bdportil said:
So, I know our phones are getting old, but I was wondering if anyone has experienced issues with, shall we say, an itchy power button? I was having some stability issues with my GS3. Some issues were clearly software-related, so I wiped and started fresh with new firmware and a fresh ROM (running AICP). However, during the process, I removed the phone from the case (Otterbox commuter case) and noticed that the power button is a little wiggly and super sensitive, and sometimes doesn't "unpress" after I use it to shut off the screen and lock the phone, causing a forced reboot and problems getting it to fire up again. Also causes issues trying to force the phone to restart into download and/or recovery and instead sometimes bootloops because the button is still activated/"pressed". Pretty much any time I (or my pants pocket) touch the power button, it powers down and I have to gingerly restart and pull on the rubber button on the case to keep it from a boot loop.
Anyone have any ideas? I know the phone is old and probably not worth paying for a repair, but I can't afford a new phone and with lollipop it's otherwise still running pretty well. I'm trying to access the power menu from the dropdown instead of actually using the physical button, and using the home button to wake the phone, but it's freakin' annoying when the phone shuts down in my pocket and I don't realize it.
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When I had this problem with my S2 I users an app called Gravity Screen Off so that I didn't need to press the power button to turn the screen on and off, reducing the number of reboots from the power button sticking.
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bdportil said:
So, I know our phones are getting old, but I was wondering if anyone has experienced issues with, shall we say, an itchy power button? I was having some stability issues with my GS3. Some issues were clearly software-related, so I wiped and started fresh with new firmware and a fresh ROM (running AICP). However, during the process, I removed the phone from the case (Otterbox commuter case) and noticed that the power button is a little wiggly and super sensitive, and sometimes doesn't "unpress" after I use it to shut off the screen and lock the phone, causing a forced reboot and problems getting it to fire up again. Also causes issues trying to force the phone to restart into download and/or recovery and instead sometimes bootloops because the button is still activated/"pressed". Pretty much any time I (or my pants pocket) touch the power button, it powers down and I have to gingerly restart and pull on the rubber button on the case to keep it from a boot loop.
Anyone have any ideas? I know the phone is old and probably not worth paying for a repair, but I can't afford a new phone and with lollipop it's otherwise still running pretty well. I'm trying to access the power menu from the dropdown instead of actually using the physical button, and using the home button to wake the phone, but it's freakin' annoying when the phone shuts down in my pocket and I don't realize it.
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this happened to me and after much research online found something silly that actually worked for me. grab a pencil, hold a couple inches away from power button, and firmly tap the power button with the pencil eraser end like 15 times and it might re-align. this worked for me for awhile but dont hit it too hard and break it. and ur phone case could possibly be causing it to happen as mine was. i used a razor to cut out the area around power button to stop this from happening and it hasnt happened in about 6 months. woked for me but maybe not u. but its free to try. good luck and let me know if this worked for u too like it has many others including 2 of my friends.

Cleaned the actual power switch inside, but it seems to be the external power button, which is all jiggly and worn out. I just ordered new buttons for under $5 and will report back when they arrive, but I think this is just a situation where the physical button lacks the return spring strength needed to disengage from the switch underneath after being pressed. It's been hella annoying, but if all it takes is a button swap I'll be happy.

Button switch on the board is dead. I don't have the tools to soldier a new one on, so I cut off the bad one and have been running sans-physical button. I used download mode to fire it up again.
I ordered a new board for it and will replace when I decide it's time to sell the phone. Found a like-new clean one on Amazon for $28. Done.

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[Q] Dead/Dying power button

Hello,
Has anyone else with a GSM Galaxy Nexus got a problem where the power button not responding?
Noticed it once or twice a week after buying the device but it's gradually getting worse to the point where I have to keep tapping the button until it wakes up/sleeps or powers on.
Contacted O2 today who confirmed that it is a mechanical fault and are taking it off me for a repair/replace.
I was just curious as to if anyone else has had this problem with their GN?
I'm interested to see if more people have this problem. The Nexus One had plenty of issues with the power button and I had to send my in for repair twice. I really hope the Galaxy Nexus can avoid this.
please dont say this problem is back. this is the first i've heard of this issue with the galaxy nexus. but the nexus one certainly had power button failures all over the place.
Well, the courier picked up my handset just now.
I should have it back by Thursday.
I never had this problem with my Nexus One, although I previously had a Galaxy S2 which the home button went iffy after 6 months of usage.
It's a shame, as the GN is a really good device. I miss it already!
Okay, update on situation.
O2 had lost my phone somewhere (translation: either someone at o2, or the courier fancied the look of the GNex and wanted it for themselves).
After countless arguments with o2, and being fobbed off during each call, I finally got through tok someone who was very helpful and has placed an order for me for a new handset. To be delivered tomorrow.
So, fingers crossed this handset wont have the same problem. I miss my GNex (and Android), having been using a dumbphone for the last week or so.
Some simple solutions to save your power button.
1) Use Widgetlocker or a custom ROM that allows wake when pressing the volume keys or other hardware buttons.
2) Use a widget like Extended Controls that will allow you to lock the phone with a tap of the screen or pull down notification like TapTap app.
Saved my notoriously week power button on my HTC Incredible and now my brand spankin' new GN.
I've had the GNex for about a month now, and not had any power button issues. Perhaps it was an issue with your specific (now lost) device.
Smabbage thanks for the tip about Extended Controls. I have come to the GNex from a DHD on which I used to enjoy using the "Press Menu to unlock" option and was wondering how I'd do it on here with no physical buttons (volume buttons used to cycle track).
Another tip to reduce power button use. Edit the search button to act as power
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An edit that I did on ye olde fascinate and I can't live without now.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Another tip to reduce power button use. Edit the search button to act as power
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An edit that I did on ye olde fascinate and I can't live without now.
good day.
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Interesting. Might need to look into this.
Potterified said:
I've had the GNex for about a month now, and not had any power button issues. Perhaps it was an issue with your specific (now lost) device.
Smabbage thanks for the tip about Extended Controls. I have come to the GNex from a DHD on which I used to enjoy using the "Press Menu to unlock" option and was wondering how I'd do it on here with no physical buttons (volume buttons used to cycle track).
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Hahah nub good to see u here , and fellow Gnex owner
Sid here Aka BangBus_Babe LOLOL.
chopper the dog said:
Another tip to reduce power button use. Edit the search button to act as power
View attachment 867849
An edit that I did on ye olde fascinate and I can't live without now.
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That's AWESOME!!! How did you do that???
I have this problem too. For me, the power button always works but only if I press it right in the middle with more pressure than usual. It started 2 weeks after I got my nexus and it's getting worth.
For now, I'm using the volume wake feature of aokp. I might bug my career about it later (I have to relock my bootloader). Do you guys think they'll give me a new phone right away? I don't wanna live without my phone for 2 weeks.
Happens to me to every now and then my power button decides not to respond so I have to battery pull to get it to work
See that button on the bottom left of my screen? Its called "screen off and on" free in market! This app plus volume wake is awesome! I'm very ocd about my power button!
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Thank you!!!

[Q] Anyone else worried about a power button issue?

After owning a Nexus One which had a power button issue and seeing my friend's Nexus S going through the same problem, I'm a bit worried that it will happen to my Gnex, especially after spending so much $ on it. The power button doesn't feel as sturdy as I would like. Are there any apps for ICS/Gnex which can change the unlock button to the volume rockers?
Anyone else worried about that? Or am I just freaking out in advance?
This is the first time I'm seeing it posted but I think my power button is going bad.
Its not bad yet but certainly feels like its getting worse.
About ten times a day I need to repress it cause it didn't work.
I have a case too which could make it harder but its still exposed so its not that I'm missing it.
Had me super worried at first.
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charmanderrrr said:
After owning a Nexus One which had a power button issue and seeing my friend's Nexus S going through the same problem, I'm a bit worried that it will happen to my Gnex, especially after spending so much $ on it. The power button doesn't feel as sturdy as I would like. Are there any apps for ICS/Gnex which can change the unlock button to the volume rockers?
Anyone else worried about that? Or am I just freaking out in advance?
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I don't have this problem, but my Captivate did. I used screen off and lock. I keeps your phone from fully locking allowing volume buttons to wake the screen. I also used SGS button remapper to remap the buttons, but I don't think it would work on the GNex.
YES. Have been thinking about this for weeks now. My OG had to be put down be cause the power button completely broke. Since then I am a little snake bitten with my nexus. I actually find myself pressing and depressing more often just to see if it is getting worse.
Funny to see a thread of this.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE FRIEND!
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AOKP has a volume to wake feature
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cordell507 said:
AOKP has a volume to wake feature
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Yeap, already done a few versions back..
I have noticed sometimes the phone doesn't always respond to power button presses. It can take two or three times. It scares me sometimes, not gonna lie. I wanna believe it's just my gel case but...
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Try pressing the button right in the middle. I noticed that you sometimes do not depress deep enough for the "click" to register when you hit it too far to the sides. The upside is of course that it's harder to press the button by mistake too.
I think you're freaking out about the power button not working.
Alternatively, like what others say you can get AOKP and do it with volume rocker to turn the phone screen on.
Or get a case with reinforced buttons (they make it easier to press).
bigxie's rom also does it, there's probably several others
We are not including volume wake in our rom. We got a resounding HELL NO when we asked folks if they wanted it. The power button is just as sturdy as the volume. If its going to break, extra stress will do the same to volume as well.
The nexus one button failure has no relation since its a completely different manufacturer using different cluck mechanism etc. So really this thread is about power button failure in general. I think it will be fine.
adrynalyne said:
We are not including volume wake in our rom. We got a resounding HELL NO when we asked folks if they wanted it. The power button is just as sturdy as the volume. If its going to break, extra stress will do the same to volume as well.
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But at least you have the option of pressing 3 buttons to wake the phone instead of 1. That alone cuts down the chances of it failing by approximately 67% right?
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1 smali edit and 2 image edits. And I've cut my power button usage in half.
good day.
lukesky said:
But at least you have the option of pressing 3 buttons to wake the phone instead of 1. That alone cuts down the chances of it failing by approximately 67% right?
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Are you going to consciously alternate using each one at different times?
The thought never entered my mind. These are expensive devices and if there's a manufacturer defect then I'll simply take it back. Having said that, I've never had a hardware issue with any of my Android devices, no dust under the screen or anything weird. But if I did, I'd take it back immediately.
Would be nice to have the option in the menu, but leave the default to off but allow users to enable it as they please. I subconsciously think about this as well, perhaps because the button is so small it does not install much confidence in me.
That's one of the things I miss on my SG2 is the front centre home button as an extra option aside from the power button to wake the phone.
Perhaps down the road they'll manufacture smartphones with capacitative power and volume "buttons" as well?
This would suck. I had the power button break on my nexus s and I baby all my phones. I'll be depressed if my $600 phone breaks for no reason.
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I only heard one person personally and none on here that suffered from the power button issue. From what I heard the nexus one was more prone to it. I had 3 nexus ones and never had that issue. Also with this device I noticed that my button is keeping its springyness. Especially with the new touch recovery. I don't really have a reason to use the power button.
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adrynalyne said:
We are not including volume wake in our rom. We got a resounding HELL NO when we asked folks if they wanted it. The power button is just as sturdy as the volume. If its going to break, extra stress will do the same to volume as well.
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Well, on aokp, you choose whether you need it or not..
So everyone is happy..

[Q] HTC One X reboots every 5 seconds

Hi guys.
My brother gave me his HTC One X which he bought 2nd hand a couple of months ago.
A few days ago this problem occurred out of the blue. The battery is completely drained, and any time it's plugged into a power source (PC or AC adapter) the phone turns on for a few seconds, then dies. The red LED light is on during this period This process repeats over and over until the power is disconnected. I've included a video of the process here:
If I hold the volume down button, I can get into the HBOOT menu, but no matter what I press it stays at the screen in the below pic, and the phone turns off after a few seconds anyway.
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If I leave it plugged in for a few minutes, the battery gets charged a little bit and I can turn it on for a few moments unplugged. Unfortunately it goes through the same motions. When I hold the volume down in this case, I get some options in the HBOOT menu as in the pic below.
Unfortunately I can't do anything in this screen, not even cycle through the options, and the phone reboots in a couple of seconds anyway.
I left the phone plugged in all night last night hoping that a charge could build up slowly so I could do something, but unfortunately it didn't make a difference.
If there's anyone out there that could help me with this I'd really appreciate it. I don't know if it's been modified or anything, my brother said he never touched it but didn't know whether it was modified beforehand or not. I've a suspicion myself that it's a hardware fault, hopefully it's something as small as a bad battery. What do you guys think? Much appreciated.
Gadge64 said:
Hi guys.
My brother gave me his HTC One X which he bought 2nd hand a couple of months ago.
A few days ago this problem occurred out of the blue. The battery is completely drained, and any time it's plugged into a power source (PC or AC adapter) the phone turns on for a few seconds, then dies. The red LED light is on during this period This process repeats over and over until the power is disconnected. I've included a video of the process here:
If I hold the volume down button, I can get into the HBOOT menu, but no matter what I press it stays at the screen in the below pic, and the phone turns off after a few seconds anyway.
If I leave it plugged in for a few minutes, the battery gets charged a little bit and I can turn it on for a few moments unplugged. Unfortunately it goes through the same motions. When I hold the volume down in this case, I get some options in the HBOOT menu as in the pic below.
Unfortunately I can't do anything in this screen, not even cycle through the options, and the phone reboots in a couple of seconds anyway.
I left the phone plugged in all night last night hoping that a charge could build up slowly so I could do something, but unfortunately it didn't make a difference.
If there's anyone out there that could help me with this I'd really appreciate it. I don't know if it's been modified or anything, my brother said he never touched it but didn't know whether it was modified beforehand or not. I've a suspicion myself that it's a hardware fault, hopefully it's something as small as a bad battery. What do you guys think? Much appreciated.
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Download this go in bootloader and run the ChargeONEX.bat from cmd . Report back
Hi, thanks for your response.
when I run ChargeONEX.bat, it gets stuck on <waiting for device> because the phone won't stay on long enough to do anything. It just turns off after about 3 seconds.
If I'm doing something wrong please set me straight!
Thank you.
Gadge64 said:
Hi, thanks for your response.
when I run ChargeONEX.bat, it gets stuck on <waiting for device> because the phone won't stay on long enough to do anything. It just turns off after about 3 seconds.
If I'm doing something wrong please set me straight!
Thank you.
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No in this case you can't do enything else. Try to hold down power button for longf time and see what will hapend. Try to go again in bootloader.
And you see only this Waithing for device?
Thant said:
No in this case you can't do enything else. Try to hold down power button for longf time and see what will hapend. Try to go again in bootloader.
And you see only this Waithing for device?
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I've tried doing this and unfortunately nothing different happened.
Thanks for your suggestion though.
Did you ever fix it?

Phone turns off before booting

I was using my phone this morning, then the screen turned off after I left it idle. Tried to turn it back on and got the Sprint logo and then the Samsung logo shortly after, and then it would turn off.
I tried power + home + vol-down, and shortly after that screen comes up it turns off again.
Do I just have a bad battery? I'm using the Gorilla Gadgets extended battery, but I'm at work and don't have access to my original. I also noticed that if I plug in the charger, the charging light doesn't come on.
Anything else I can try?
Oh wow, thanks for the speedy reply and for the heads up. I'll go ahead and give this a shot when I get home tonight
Jessooca said:
Honestly this works. Either way the button will have to replaced If you want to spend the money.... for me this s3 is another android toy along with my s4... I've gone from the g2 to the s4 and back to a G2, it's the best phone out IMO
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I don't doubt you at all, I just managed to confirm it. After slapping it around for a bit I finally got it to go to my home screen, then shortly after the "power off" menu came up, similar as to if I was holding down the power button and off it went.
I actually saw a video of someone flicking the power switch area with their fingers, I did that and managed to get the phone turned on, and have made sure to not touch the power button since then by installing a "screen off" app and it's been on this whole time. I'm guessing this is just a temporary fix and eventually it'll turn off again w/out me touching the power button?
Jessooca said:
Yep. It's going on vacation and your power button won't be returning
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Is there a special method to take out that little brown piece? I'm using a small needle and it looks like it's made of hard plastic and completely wedged in there :\
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I'm making a video tomorrow.
When you're looking at the button which is obviously in the middle of the switch look at that Brown cardboard looking material... directly behind the button in that cardboard area use a very small flat head after you've used that needle or pin then dig out enough of it, so you can stick your screwdriver behind the button and it'll pop right out.
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You want to essentially pop the middle button area off, and that's it
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This is proving to be harder than it sounds.. lol, I took some pics real quick
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Is it "A" or "B" that I'm trying to pop out? It still looks brand new in person, but the lighting and camera show every little scratch I've caused by prying at it with a needle.
Jessooca said:
What you have is I'll guarantee 99.99% is a bad Power Button/Switch on your motherboard.
This was initially referred to as Sudden Death Syndrome... don't waste your money and buy a new battery, I assure you that's not it.
If you have a multi meter take your phone apart, it's very easy, there's a tear down video of how to on YouTube if you need a reference.
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If anyone takes this advice PLEASE be sure to test with a multimeter to be sure this is the problem. I don't even know if the multimeter test will tell you anything (I'm no electrician) but this advice will permanently disable your phone. I was recently having a problem with my phone restarting and Jessooca guaranteed me that the problem was the power button.
The problem wasn't the power button. The problem was corrupt data/cache in one of my apps. Clearing the data/cache fixed the problem.
I just don't see how someone can make guarantees and be 99.909% sure of anything. Every problem can be caused multiple ways.
A few months ago I had a problem with my phone failing to startup and in that case it WAS the battery. So that's two different times I have personally experienced boot up/shutdown problems that were not related to the power button. It's just crazy to make guarantees and say you are 99.99% sure about anything without any troubleshooting. Especially for a problem like this that can have multiple causes.
I know I'm late on this thread, but just in case others come here looking for advice on how to fix their power button. I have fixed many of these by soldering on new buttons, and it's a pretty easy fix if you are good at soldering and have a good microscope. What's not an easy fix is trying to replace all those little tiny resistors and capacitors soldered on right next to the power button. They're about the size of a grain of sand, and although I usually can get them replaced and make the phone work, it takes much longer, so be careful if you're going to attempt any kind of diy repair!
I would also say that the only way I've personally gotten these power buttons to work other than replacing them is by cleaning them and lubricating them. A good electronic contact cleaner/lubricant works best, but acetone followed by WD40 works pretty well. Just saturate them with the cleaner and click them a bunch of times to work the cleaner in... then do the same thing with the lubricant. Doesn't always work, but it's unlikely to make the problem worse, and if you it doesn't work you can send it to me to fix!
Johnathan

How do I use the Moto 360? Is it usable in any way?

This may sound like a stupid question but I bought this watch a day ago and I still can't find a way to use it. It's ridiculous.
At first it won't power on as per instruction provided in the package. So I let it charge and it powered on automatically only to start discharging while charging. Then it turned off because it discharged on the charged... Somehow I managed to charge it by manually powering off the watch every few minutes.
So then I paired it with the phone and 15 mins later it got unpaired. I found out I can't pair it again - I must reset. Eventually it paired again, however it kept discharging while on the charging station. I turned airplane mode on, then I turn it off and eventually it charged. Then I immediately initiated the the firmware update to download and somehow I was able to update. So now it charges and discharges fine.
I've never in my life have seen any device be so hard to setup and get going - and I'm an engineer - I can only imagine how normal users keep returning those because they are not usable.
Sorry for the long post but back to my stupid question. How do you guys use this watch. It is totally unusable.
1) I can't use any apps. I'd say "Ok google, show me my steps.". The app will load I'll swipe to see the next screen and in less then 2-3 sec the screen turns off.
2)I tried "Ok goolge send an em..." and the screen turns off. I tried again "Ok google send an email". It asks to whom and while I speak the name - the screen turns off.
Why is ti turning off while I'm in the middle of answering a questions? I tried and tried - I was unable to use anything.
I tried the navigation while driving - very bad idea - I almost crashed my car. It will show me the direction like- go left on whatever and then turns off immediately. I look at the watch again - but no more directions - it don't care that I want direction...
I'd appreciate some tips from users that had the watch for a longer time.
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The fact that you are unable to charge it as expected tells me that you have a defective device. Get it exchanged now. Don't bother trying to figure out why you can't set it up or use an app etc.
Yeah. I should have read the other threads before posting. I'm going to return it to BestBuy for a refund today.
I wonder if I should claim it's defective or that I simply can't understand how to use it and don't want/like it anymore?
I you just bought it, tell them it don't work and exchange for a new one. Otherwise, you're just causing problems for somebody else if they shelf it for resale again. There's a reason they have exchange/refund policies.
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Yep - returned it as broken
I didn't get a replacement - I'm afraid it'll have the same issues. Feels like it was a software bug so I'm not taking more chances. Perhaps it doesn't work well with Android 5.1 yet.
I'll wait for a newer model.
What phone were you using?
Mine lasts for days and days, I have found that some watchfaces can take a chunk out of my battery.
But if its not turning on and you have reset it the exchange it or get a refund. I can't live without mine, so useful and handy. Besides it looks good ?
I do not think you know what you're talking about OP. But I do agree your device had to be defective, which does suck.
It's broken, I doubt the other replacements will do the same thing
Recumbent trikes in NC
The glass is so easy to get broken.Any protection for it.
Yes, I got a tempered glass protector at bestbuy when I bought the watch. No idea what brand it was. Hard to center because youre putting a circle inside a circle.
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HTC One M8 (Google Play Edition). It just updated to Android 5.1;
I ended up buying the Moto 360 again. Got it from T-Mobile like 30 mins ago.
Yet again the watch wont start out of the box.
Charging it - I hope this one doesn't discharge while on the charger. We'll see...
EDIT: Yes this one works very well. The old one probably had some sensor broken.
violinbg said:
HTC One M8 (Google Play Edition). It just updated to Android 5.1;
I ended up buying the Moto 360 again. Got it from T-Mobile like 30 mins ago.
Yet again the watch wont start out of the box.
Charging it - I hope this one doesn't discharge while on the charger. We'll see...
EDIT: Yes this one works very well. The old one probably had some sensor broken.
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I had the same thing happen (the not turning on/charging thing) when I got mine. There will also, apparently, come a time when it drains abruptly then not turn on. Then you have to charge it for at least 5 hours, hold the power button down for 30 seconds, release and hold down again. Still, when it's working it's pretty neat.
CASz said:
I had the same thing happen (the not turning on/charging thing) when I got mine. There will also, apparently, come a time when it drains abruptly then not turn on. Then you have to charge it for at least 5 hours, hold the power button down for 30 seconds, release and hold down again. Still, when it's working it's pretty neat.
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I managed to fix the charging issue but the device was unusable. It would turn the screen off randomly in the middle of command.
The new one works great. It too had no charge out of the box but it charged to 30% in like 15-20 mins and then turned on by itself.

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