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Your thoughts for future GNEX Development

Even though Galaxy Nexus is no more officialy supported by Google and stuck at Android 4.3, KitKat Roms emerged quickly and evolve rapidly - thanks to our crazy devs!!! :victory: So how you all handling this? Still at 4.3... already jumped to a 4.4 rom?
I know it took a long way for 4.3 roms to reach that point where everything works near perfect and I think that Cataclysm or SlimBean are such examples. So, some will prefer the comfort of this instead of jumping into the unknown and start dealing with bugs and the trial and error procedure???
As I write this Android 4.4.2 is rolling to newer Nexus devices, my new Nexus 7 already running this and something tells me, since none of the factory images for 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 are officialy on google's page, that another update maybe coming soon. Since our phone is not officialy supported, devs will strugle merging new code to their sources and adapting it for gnex. How do you see this evolving?
To end this, it's been 2 years after the release of GNEX and our forum still is in the top 5 list. Quite impressive if you ask me. Tell that to Google... Galaxy Nexus is a legendary phone even though it's not the sharpest out there. And I am sure its "endurance" over time, will make it even more legendary!
PS: Working on a cool Zooper Skin. Will let u know when it's out!

It will continue, but the gnex population will gradually move on. The new incomers will not likely join at the rate the existing users leave to upgrade to a new device.
If it's any indication, Nexus One and Nexus S development are still continuing and they are older than the Galaxy Nexus. At some point when newer android versions get too resource intensive (KK tried to improve the memory management) then we will start seeing users preferring to stick with an older version.

I will continue with my Galaxy nexus and I'm still very happy with it especially so because of the talented developers here at XDA. I'm currently using the 4.4 KK rom : [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus with gapps 20131207. This ROM is now my daily driver and I won't be going back to 4.3 :good:
Thanks for this post, I'll subscribe!

myself, I've been thinking of sticking with Cataclysm for a while. But can I ask those who already use a 4.4 rom if they noticed any signifcant improvement on battery life or multitasking?

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itasoulas said:
Even though Galaxy Nexus is no more officialy supported by Google and stuck at Android 4.3, KitKat Roms emerged quickly and evolve rapidly - thanks to our crazy devs!!! :victory: So how you all handling this? Still at 4.3... already jumped to a 4.4 rom?
I know it took a long way for 4.3 roms to reach that point where everything works near perfect and I think that Cataclysm or SlimBean are such examples. So, some will prefer the comfort of this instead of jumping into the unknown and start dealing with bugs and the trial and error procedure???
As I write this Android 4.4.2 is rolling to newer Nexus devices, my new Nexus 7 already running this and something tells me, since none of the factory images for 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 are officialy on google's page, that another update maybe coming soon. Since our phone is not officialy supported, devs will strugle merging new code to their sources and adapting it for gnex. How do you see this evolving?
To end this, it's been 2 years after the release of GNEX and our forum still is in the top 5 list. Quite impressive if you ask me. Tell that to Google... Galaxy Nexus is a legendary phone even though it's not the sharpest out there. And I am sure its "endurance" over time, will make it even more legendary!
PS: Working on a cool Zooper Skin. Will let u know when it's out!
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I'm not one to sit by idly and wait for confirmation of a stable new Android version. When 4.4 was released I flashed it right away. Whats the fun in not "jumping into the unknown"?
I dont think small updates are that hard for developers to merge into our current builds. We are already on 4.4.1 and I'm sure that 4.4.2 will be on our devices soon as well.
KitKat has been running great on my device. I dont know of any issues we have now that havent been fixed yet.

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I'm not one to sit by idly and wait for confirmation of a stable new Android version. Wn 4.4 was released I flashed it right away. Whats the fun in not "jumping into the unknown"?
I dont think small updates are that hard for developers to merge into our current builds. We are already on 4.4.1 and I'm sure that 4.4.2 will be on our devices soon as well.
KitKat has been running great on my device. I dont know of any issues we have now that havent been fixed yet.
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Well...my GPS could be better. I'm seeing at best 30ft accuracy with about 8 satellites locked in with pretty low SNR values.

Im still on 4.3, Slimbean. Waiting for Slimkat to evolve just a litle bit more :good:

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Well...my GPS could be better. I'm seeing at best 30ft accuracy with about 8 satellites locked in with pretty low SNR values.
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I haven't had any issues with GPS. It pinpoints pretty fast for me.
And by the way, cyanogenmod just updated us to 4.4.2.

I will be continuing to use my Galaxy Nexus until the 'Nexus 6', it can totally hold up to most of the competition. Currently using the last 4.4.1 Galaxy Nexus Maguro CM11 ROM with ASKP/Franco/Mpokang/Fancy/Stock kernel.

Find 7 and questions about Oppo phones?

why on earth did they not launch this phone with Kitkat?
anyway I have a question regarding Oppo's software support, is it good? will they quickly update Find 7 to Kitkat? I have heard that Oppo's software are rather somewhat unreliable, is it true?
about Color OS, is it good? is it full of bloatwares or not? how deep is the customization?
will Find 7 have official Cyanogenmod support? how about other custom ROMs?
thanks for answering!

Oppo listen very much to their user base and they will update it to KitKat. You can flash other roms to Oppo using their stock recovery, they're partnered with CyanogenMod so Cm roms should run well on their devices.
As for other custom roms, it depended on if the Dev want to develop for it or not, if you purchase a Find 7 for them, they probably will. Hint: Take a look at the Find 5 and N1 development section.
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The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.

Allanitomwesh said:
The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.
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Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?

nap007 said:
Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?
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CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...

My concern with running CM on this phone is, will it lose features? Like the 50MP super zoom mode?

Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.

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Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.
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what? but didn't n1 retain it's features with cyanogen?
and can't you just install specific phones apps to get it's features?

Yes, because CM built the phone with OPPO,far as I know,they're making the OnePlus One ATM. So yeah, it'll be like on Find 5 most likely.

seriousneo said:
CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...
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I haven't heard any news regarding a Cyngn partnership for the Find 7.
Remember, after last year's events, when talking about CM, there are really two different entities which are semi-connected:
CM - the original CyanogenMod open source software project. The Find5 was originally maintained by community members who were solely involved on this side of things. All of that team left for Omni as a result of the Focal relicensing fiasco (This is why the Find5 never saw official CM10.2)
Cyanogen Inc - Referred to from here on in this post as "Cyngn" - The corporate entity created by some of the Cyanogenmod leads
Cyngn was partnered with Oppo for the N1 so that Cyngn could gain experience with taking a device through GMS (Google Apps) certification. There has been little to no CM community involvement with the N1 - it's a purely Cyngn affair. All community efforts on the device are focused on other projects (Oppo sent preproduction N1s to people involved with CodefireXperiment, Omni, Paranoid Android, and a few others)
Cyngn is currently partnered with OnePlus to focus on their launch device. They aren't even putting much effort into the N1 now if you read any of the user reviews. (Both official 10.2 updates are full of bugs, and CM11 has had broken location services for two months now with not a single word from the development team.)
So the support of the Find7 by CyanogenMod is unknown and indeterminate. It will likely involve community effort if it happens, but all "community" contributors with current Oppo devices are working on other projects. Omni support is HIGHLY likely, I would not be surprised if, like the Find5 and N1, it proves to be one of Omni's best supported devices. CodefireXperiment and PA support are also highly likely (Actually I'd say pretty much guaranteed in the case of CFX, Oppo and Anders get along as well as the Omni team gets along with Oppo). (While PA usually focuses on Nexus devices, there usually have been exceptions for Oppos due to Oppo providing excellent support to Aaron from PA.)

Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .

returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!

nap007 said:
returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!
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About the apps yeah,there was a thing about Lightflow not working,but its usually a one app thing,especially if it works by identifying the phone,mostly coz OPPO is so unique. As a plus ANY Chinese app works without a hitch when they give other manufacturers incompatibility issues
Omni is confirmed,Maxwen is getting a Find 7.
Unless i'm wrong ColorOS 2.0 should be kitkat.

CHlCKEN said:
Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .
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Well I would consider the battery a moderate compromise. 3k mah is not really sufficient for a 5.5" 2k screen. I was really hoping for 3500mah or more.
I'm wondering how the screen compares to the Note 3 OLED screen. The Note 3 has an extra .02", extra 200mah, but Samsungs OLED's aren't as efficient as SLCD's.
The batt life is the defining factor here for me and I would assume a great many others. If HTC can deliver on this, they'll take a good few percent of the upgrade market. Damn Sony for not bringing their Z2 to the US. It would dominate the tech-savvy market completely.

last time I heard the screen use new low power tech so let's wait for a review first before calling the battery is a flop.

mhl, hdmi?
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?

Wyzco said:
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?
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likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.

I heard the lower-end version Oppo Find 7a is better than Oppo Find 7 in many sectors, like screen, performance, etc. I really hope that Oppo equips this phone with that brilliant touch-less voice command just like on Moto X. It's gonna be really awesome for this phone. In fact, i think all of the new phones in 2014 should also have this feature. I mean, the real touch-less voice control when the phone is still locked. Unlike Google Nexus 5's "Ok Google" voice control that can only be used when the phone has been unlocked.

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Really??? You're telling me about Audio output?
Every phone has that! Smh

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Supports a bunch of wireless outputs
DLNA and Miracast off the top of my head,and Wifi Display

What's hindering the development of CM13 for this device?

Does anyone know the exact reason why z1c doesn't have a CM13 build by now?

karamancho said:
Does anyone know the exact reason why z1c doesn't have a CM13 build by now?
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Don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was no official CM 13 for Z1c, since there will apparently be no official MM from Sony, so the device is as good as dropped, (actually a recent article said that Sony is basically dropping the Z series - http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/24/confirmed-xperia-z-series-is-no-more/) However, I would bet we'll see a CM build at some point. We already have several CM/AOSP variants available. It's hard for devs to spend much time on devices that seem to be on their way out...

levone1 said:
Don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was no official CM 13 for Z1c, since there will apparently be no official MM from Sony, so the device is as good as dropped, (actually a recent article said that Sony is basically dropping the Z series - http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/24/confirmed-xperia-z-series-is-no-more/) However, I would bet we'll see a CM build at some point. We already have several CM/AOSP variants available. It's hard for devs to spend much time on devices that seem to be on their way out...
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well didn't Sony include z1c into the "Open Devices" project? and don't they already release the necessary LP and MM binaries or am I missing something here?

karamancho said:
well didn't Sony include z1c into the "Open Devices" project? and don't they already release the necessary LP and MM binaries or am I missing something here?
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Maybe it will come, I don't know... I just know that there's dozens of new devices all the time, and development requires someone to put in time and energy and money, and if the demand is shrinking for a certain device as it falls into the shadows of up-and-comings, then the motivation might fade too. I'm sure there are devs out there who would be happy to build for someone if you provide a device and a donation...

It's probably because it's not a very popular device for developers and there's nobody willing to maintain CM13 on it.

But it is a very good device
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact using XDA-Developers mobile app

yeah it's still a beast hardware wise.
I was asking because my old phone, galaxy s2 plus that I gave to my mother, has had CM13 since 06.12.2015. and samsung hasn't released anything for that phone since android 4.2.2 JB - no ROMs, no drivers, no binaries... nothing. yet the phone had excellent ROM support despite all that. bear in mind that this isn't the ex-flagship galaxy s2 - the s2 plus version I'm talking about here had nothing in common (hardware wise) with the s2 except the looks.
on the other hand, sony is constantly releasing MM binaries for the z1c and all I see in the dev forums are half a dozen tweaked sony stock roms but 1 or 2 AOSP based roms.
I was asking if there are some technical difficulties in building AOSP MM roms, otherwise I believe that it's impossible that a 2014 SD800 device has a better dev support than a 2012 device with a Broadcom SoC.

Hi,
the sources for CM13 are up and they build fine. I tested one a couple of weeks ago and it seemed to be running OK. Keep in mind, that pretty much all Sony devices are now based on the new 3.10 kernel, which requires quite a bit of work. Also, the camera isn't working very well yet, probably requires some more blob updates from Sony.
In case you want to give it a try, I made a quick build last night. I haven't flashed it myself but I would assume not too much has changed since the version I tried.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636006153
I'm not taking any dev credit, I just built what's already there.
Cheers

derf elot said:
Hi,
the sources for CM13 are up and they build fine. I tested one a couple of weeks ago and it seemed to be running OK. Keep in mind, that pretty much all Sony devices are now based on the new 3.10 kernel, which requires quite a bit of work. Also, the camera isn't working very well yet, probably requires some more blob updates from Sony.
In case you want to give it a try, I made a quick build last night. I haven't flashed it myself but I would assume not too much has changed since the version I tried.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636006153
I'm not taking any dev credit, I just built what's already there.
Cheers
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Thanks for the work. There was a recent update to camera sources. @CLINTZ9 mentioned it in his AOSP thread and included in last build. With a good camera app and manual mode, you can get some pretty good pics.

Hi,
yes, I saw that the CM blobs are (from what I can tell) 3 versions behind the ones released from Sony. There was a new one released just yesterday.
If I get the chance, I can try to update them to the most recent release this weekend. No promises though, seeing as I'm quite busy these days
Has anyone tried this build? Is it booting/working OK?

derf elot said:
Hi,
yes, I saw that the CM blobs are (from what I can tell) 3 versions behind the ones released from Sony. There was a new one released just yesterday.
If I get the chance, I can try to update them to the most recent release this weekend. No promises though, seeing as I'm quite busy these days
Has anyone tried this build? Is it booting/working OK?
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Can't right now, but definitely will...

derf elot said:
Hi,
the sources for CM13 are up and they build fine. I tested one a couple of weeks ago and it seemed to be running OK. Keep in mind, that pretty much all Sony devices are now based on the new 3.10 kernel, which requires quite a bit of work. Also, the camera isn't working very well yet, probably requires some more blob updates from Sony.
In case you want to give it a try, I made a quick build last night. I haven't flashed it myself but I would assume not too much has changed since the version I tried.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636006153
I'm not taking any dev credit, I just built what's already there.
Cheers
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Using now. So far so good. You should start a thread...

Yes, running fine here. Thanks!

derf elot said:
Hi,
yes, I saw that the CM blobs are (from what I can tell) 3 versions behind the ones released from Sony. There was a new one released just yesterday.
If I get the chance, I can try to update them to the most recent release this weekend. No promises though, seeing as I'm quite busy these days
Has anyone tried this build? Is it booting/working OK?
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will try to get a cm13 build up by next sunday if possible

derf elot said:
Hi,
the sources for CM13 are up and they build fine. I tested one a couple of weeks ago and it seemed to be running OK. Keep in mind, that pretty much all Sony devices are now based on the new 3.10 kernel, which requires quite a bit of work. Also, the camera isn't working very well yet, probably requires some more blob updates from Sony.
In case you want to give it a try, I made a quick build last night. I haven't flashed it myself but I would assume not too much has changed since the version I tried.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636006153
I'm not taking any dev credit, I just built what's already there.
Cheers
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wow, finally CM 13 for the Z1 compact, some bugs?

CLINTZ9 said:
will try to get a cm13 build up by next sunday if possible
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I'm in the process of updating the blobs right now and then make a new build. In case it works, would you be interested in sharing the load to keep it up-to-date? Like I said, I'm kind of busy these days.

derf elot said:
I'm in the process of updating the blobs right now and then make a new build. In case it works, would you be interested in sharing the load to keep it up-to-date? Like I said, I'm kind of busy these days.
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Yeah sure
Do you compile on a pc or do you have a build server ?

I build on my PC, have you got one?

Thanks to @CLINTZ9 and @derf elot to bring us cm13 for this device
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact using XDA-Developers mobile app

karamancho said:
yeah it's still a beast hardware wise.
I was asking because my old phone, galaxy s2 plus that I gave to my mother, has had CM13 since 06.12.2015. and samsung hasn't released anything for that phone since android 4.2.2 JB - no ROMs, no drivers, no binaries... nothing. yet the phone had excellent ROM support despite all that. bear in mind that this isn't the ex-flagship galaxy s2 - the s2 plus version I'm talking about here had nothing in common (hardware wise) with the s2 except the looks.
on the other hand, sony is constantly releasing MM binaries for the z1c and all I see in the dev forums are half a dozen tweaked sony stock roms but 1 or 2 AOSP based roms.
I was asking if there are some technical difficulties in building AOSP MM roms, otherwise I believe that it's impossible that a 2014 SD800 device has a better dev support than a 2012 device with a Broadcom SoC.
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Remember me from S2 Plus community? SAZY Rom, Slim Rom?

Asus zenfone 5z: Android P release date.

Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.

suraj051 said:
Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.
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If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018

chaostan said:
If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018
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Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.

Why are people so hung up on the getting the newest update immediately? There are usually bugs that need to be worked out, such as the Android P fast charging bug.
I'd rather get it a little later after it's smoothed out.

I'm expecting it at end of Q4/18.

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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This is not a flagship from asus point of view. They treat ROG series as one

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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Dude calm down. My LG V20 still has Android 7.0

Buying HTC 10 in 2018. Makes sense for use next 2 years?

Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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HTC 10 is a good phone but I think it's not worth buying in 2018, because you will never have much support or updates in stock and with custom rom you will see a dying project.
That is my opinion

There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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there is someone on the xda discord who has a booting p rom for the htc 10

Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.

aligh2014 said:
Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.
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Maybe, maybe not....if Fagyi solves a few problems then we will have Oreo fully working and maybe even Pie.
But this all comes down to one person. If you want a device with active development by multiple people with multiple ROMS, then you should look elsewhere.

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!

harvey1483 said:
LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!
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LineageOS Nougat (official version) works just fine on HTC 10 and the woofer works as it should.

HTC 10 have great hardware but HTC device software support management is absolutely worthless. HTC is ruining their costumers loyalty. They are supporting devices only one year long.
After official release Android 8.0 battery life is catastrophical, but HTC coorporation is not doing anything to fix that. That's why HTC 10 is my last device from HTC.
Better choose other manufacturers.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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I bought the 10 earlier this year as a stop gap after my Pixel died. I was keen to wait for the Pixel 3 as the 2 didn't do it for me.
The handset itself is nice enough, camera is just ok and the battery life with Oreo is truly awful. Thankfully Quick Charge makes it useable. Screen is good, but not as punch as amoled.
Depends on your requirements, the handset does have more or less everything, but I compared app speed against a Huawei 3e and it was faster to launch apps like facebook and linkedin.

I agree; I think the hardware is fantastic and the phone is robust unlike a lot of new glass phones.
I also prefer a LCD screen over amoled, so that's good too.
But the software is dreadful and it's completely unacceptable to drop support after such a short period of time. Just look at Apple who released ios12 this week for iPhone 6 released in 2014!
My HTC 10 is going well on LineageOS 14 (Nougat) and hopefully Fagyi on these forums will get Oreo or Pie working one day which will add life to this old phone. But if he can't then I will be stuck with outdated software on my phone.
In any case, this will be my last phone from HTC.....