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BT - WIFI interfirence
Try this on your Excalibur:
Establish connection with BT headset
Dial voice number
Activate WIFI at the same time
Did you hear any crackling and noise in your BT headset?
i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
JwY said:
i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
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Well, I don't have this problem with TyTn.
I've tried Nokia BH 900 and Jabra JX10 - both 2.0
I'm glad i saw this thread. I'm having the same issue. I cannot stream music to my motorola ht820 bluetooth stereo headset if i use wifi. It just keeps stopping and freaks out on me. I was having issues streaming videos to my dash via wifi and using the headset also. I could not stream 100kbps videos over wifi! I thought the phone just wasn't powerful enough. (although it's not.. I could stream 300kbps videos on my old hp 3615 via wifi fine.)
I just was able to stream a video at 300kbps fine without bluetooth turned on using wifi and it worked fine. Grr!!
BT and wifi both use the same frequency.
I think you shoud try an other channel for the wifi. It may solve your problem.
Wifi how do you set IPs/DNS info?
did i over look something i can't figure out how to set IP, DNS and Subnet for my phone. I've gone to every connection screen did i over look something?
Internet via WiFi - Wireless Access Points Only
I am not subscribing to the data service on my cellular net. I only want to be able to access the net and email when I am in range of my WAP at home/work or at my favorite hot spots. I've got the WiFi settings so that I am connecting to my WAP and can see the SSID when it connects.. I've tried adjusting the settings in the IE options and am at the point where once in a while (1 out of 8 or so ) I can open access one page of a web site.. but can not navigate any further. If I type a different URL in it says locating and loading then times out.... what did I miss???
T-Mobile Dash / Re-ROM-ed to Excaliber.
All other functions seem to be OK.
Thanks, XmP
I've seen this as well. Playing around earlier today, I installed Opera Mini. Opera works fine over wifi or edge. I believe that the issue involves one or more IE bugs involving either the size (fragmentation?) of cache and/or scripts.
Also, Opera Mini isn't a solution (yet) either. It works great once installed and launched from the installer - but has to be uninstaller and reinstalled to work after you exit.
I can't wait for a linux port
I run into this problem all the time at my college and at my home. I turn on my wifi and the phone defaults to the network instead of wifi. I am on cingular with the 8125, I was using I/S PL 1.08 i just updated to cingular rom 2.24.10.1 WWE. I have tried IE, Opera, Mozilla (Minimo) and another i forget the name of. In all I preferred Opera but I feel Mozilla will be the best once the bugs are gone.
Oh yah and when I try and connect to the wifi network at my school they require a redirect to login through bluesocket. That is just too difficult for my little wizard and I rarely get through that system.
External antenna jack on Excaliber/Dash... is it just for GSM? or also WiFi?
Anyone had experience with the external antenna jack on the back of the Dash (under the mirror button)? Just wondering if using this connector would improve performance on WiFi? or is it designed only for GSM reception?
I found a cable which fits the connector perfectly. Thanks for your responses.
Issue solved!
I rebooted my wireless router and everything works great...
Bump!
I'm guessing the absence of answers means that the settings cannot be changed (or may need a reg hack to do so) - I can't find them anywhere either...
so it works for an external wifi as well?
yes, it is possible to change these settings (or at least the IP adress). I have read about it, but can't remeber where. It's possible to chnge it somewhere in the registry, can't be changed directly through settings. If I find it, where I read about it, I will post it here ...
As I remember the external is designed for car holder external antenna, not for WiFi. You may find at most of the GSM mobile back also have this.
This was posted over at howardforums too. What, you didn't search the internet endlessly to find an answer?
Above poster is correct, it's for GSM only. Like I said over at HoFo, unless you're lost in the backwoods, I don't think it's going to help much. Plus, it looks a tad silly!
Thanks for all your responses. Yeah, I posted the question in a couple of forums (the level of expertise varies widely, as you know!).
Reason I asked... we want to be able to access realtime weather conditions while at a remote nature facility on a barrier island here on the West Coast of Florida -- you know, like hurricanes There is a weak WiFi signal from an access point about 1/4 mile away. I simply wanted to establish a stronger link by using an external antenna.
So although it might have looked silly, it was to be a quick fix for instant weather updates (like radar), when needed.
Wifi connection sloooow. For you also?
Hi, with my stock htc s620, establishing a connection to a wifi network that is already saved (home & work), takes around 1 to 2 mins.
What often happens also is that it goes to sleep before even connecting (with me waiting in IE or mail to clic on a favorite or do a send & receive action).
I can't understand this since a nokia n80 will take seconds and it's almost instantaneous on my macbook.
Are there any tricks or software that can accelerate this (unless I'm the only one to have this problem)?
Seems to be a problem of your hardware or a configuration problem. I have energy save mode enabled and usually it takes two or three seconds to connect, sometimes up to ten seconds, if it has extremly low WiFi-Signal.
interesting, I'm going to investigate on the software part first... You really think it could be a hardware issue?
What's sure is that once the connection is established, it's fast and doesn't drop.
BTW, do you mean seconds after the handset is waken up from sleep?
Hum, after looking in my Remove section on my handset, nothing appears, is there some kind of registry cleaner for smartphone?
Hey guys...kind of in a bind. I need to enable my TP2 as a Wifi hub quickly. I am sure that this has been discussed several times but am unable to find my answer in the time that I have. I have tried using the dongle approach but it seems as though the connection wont 'take'...which may be because of a poor/old USB connection on the laptop itself. Either way I know that the laptop has a quality wireless card and would like to make it connect through my phone via a wireless connection. Anyone have a cab or otherwise that can make this work? Thank you in advance for any help.
It is as simple as this
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704%3Afs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=wifi+sharing&sa=Search
That doesnt really help. It is exactly the listing group that I had found before. Is there a cab file out there that I can install in order to make this happen?
WiFiRouter is the best way to go:
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
I use it all the time to tether via USB on my laptop. However, I've also used it as a mobile WiFi hotspot. My wife and I can both be on our laptops at the same time.
I've only used it a limited number of times in WiFi mode, but it has worked well when I did. The only issues I had was that the range did not need excessive. If I was more than 20 feet from my phone sign loss started happening. Of course, I live right under a cell phone tower so it may have been due to just lots of interference. Also, you'll burn through your battery pretty quick doing this as well.
Not sure if it is something on my end, but ever since the upgrade, which I did as a clean install, I have had issues with being "connected" but not going anywhere. I am connected to wifi, have an IP address, but nothing will load, then all of a sudden it starts working again. My laptop, my phone, etc have no problems during this time, so it doesn't appear that its my router or anything. I am using the 5ghz band on the Nexus and laptop and plan on testing to see if it does better on the 2.4ghz spectrum but it seems like it affects all my apps. I will be looking on Instagram and then pics stop loading, I open the browser, can't browse, type thing, so not app specific, but the entire time I show excellent signal strength, i'm maybe 10ft from the router, my work laptop is connected on VPN right next to me and doesn't drop out, again making me think it isn't my side, but more so something with the Nexus since 5.0 update.
Dude, Google.
I have this issue as well.
For general internet use and most apps it's not a problem as I only lose connection for ~10s before it reconnects but if I'm playing a game that requires a persistent internet connection it kicks me out at the most inopportune times...
I hope there's a fix soon, KitKat was flawless.
Hello, I updated my Moto 360 to the new version which enables wifi support and I have a weird problem, when I disconnect my phone bluetooth and wifi and enable wifi on moto 360 I notice that I don't get notifications for mails, facebook messages, tweets etc also voice commands won't work, but I can browse webpages with android wear internet browser.
Am I missing something ?
Isn't the whole idea of wifi support to be able to use the watch autonomously ?
If not by Bluetooth, your watch must still be on the same network as your phone to get notifications from your phone. You need to turn WiFi on your phone back on.
Hey RoyJ thanks for your reply, I see so the phone gets a notifications then pushes it to the watch via wifi, that's a shame, let's hope in a future update where the device would function autonomously without a phone.
Noticed the same thing. What I have found is that Bluetooth needs to be on regardless of whether the watch is connected to the phone or not. It is as if it is a switch to tell the android wear app whether or not to forward notifications. I can personally confirm that you do not need to be on the same WiFi network. I had my paired phone in my car at work with WiFi off and my phone connected to a hotspot I created with another phone and received all the notifications on my watch.
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Also from what I read, voice commands might not work on WiFi, just notifications.
I've set this up according to Google's support page and can confirm that my Moto 360 connects to WiFi when out of range of the phone. However, it still remains disconnected from the phone, even though both phone and watch are using the same WiFi. The little cloud symbol with the line through it never disappears and none of the connected features work. As soon as I move back into range of the phone it switches back to bluetooth and reconnects again. So the switching to WiFi part is working OK, it just fails to communicate with the phone over WiFi. It's a Nexus 6, if that's relevant.
Any ideas?
EDIT: Never mind, it appears to be because the phone is using IPv6 but the watch only supports IPv4, oddly. If I force the phone to use IPv4 it works.
mijkz said:
EDIT: Never mind, it appears to be because the phone is using IPv6 but the watch only supports IPv4, oddly. If I force the phone to use IPv4 it works.
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Really? Isn't IPv4 kicking the bucket officially real soon like?
I can't get this working either. I have no idea why the phone's bluetooth or IPv6 should make any difference at all for this feature. It's supposed to use the cloud, and as long as the phone and watch have a connection to the internet then it should work.......right?
Unfortunately it's the sort of feature that I will disable unless it is truly reliable. And so far I can't even get it to work at all, so it's only reliable in it's ability to connect to a wifi network and drain the battery.
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I can't get this working either. I have no idea why the phone's bluetooth or IPv6 should make any difference at all for this feature. It's supposed to use the cloud, and as long as the phone and watch have a connection to the internet then it should work.......right?
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No, that is NOT how it works. Your watch is a slave to your phone regardless of the WiFi feature; WiFi just gives you a longer leash. I'ts HIGHLY unlikely that the current iteration of Android Wear will allow you to "leave home without your phone" as someone suggested above. It's just not how it was designed, nor how Google envisions it. If that's what you want, you're best looking outside of Android Wear and into some of the fringe wearables that actually act as mobile devices.
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No, that is NOT how it works. Your watch is a slave to your phone regardless of the WiFi feature; WiFi just gives you a longer leash. I'ts HIGHLY unlikely that the current iteration of Android Wear will allow you to "leave home without your phone" as someone suggested above. It's just not how it was designed, nor how Google envisions it. If that's what you want, you're best looking outside of Android Wear and into some of the fringe wearables that actually act as mobile devices.
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But Google's own descriptions of the Android Wear wifi feature states this:
If your watch has Wi-Fi, your watch can automatically connect to saved Wi-Fi networks when it loses the Bluetooth connection with your phone. This lets your watch and phone to automatically stay synced at any distance over the Internet. That way you can get notifications and use voice search on your watch throughout your home and work when you leave your phone in a different room.
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Operative words being "This lets your watch and phone stay synced at any distance over the internet". Are you telling me that "any distance over the internet" actually means "only as far as your local wifi network covers"?
It also states "Could Sync" must be turned on for wifi to work. Why would I need a feature called "Cloud Sync" if it's not designed to sync over the cloud?
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But Google's own descriptions of the Android Wear wifi feature states this:
Operative words being "This lets your watch and phone stay synced at any distance over the internet". Are you telling me that "any distance over the internet" actually means "only as far as your local wifi network covers"?
It also states "Could Sync" must be turned on for wifi to work. Why would I need a feature called "Cloud Sync" if it's not designed to sync over the cloud?
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Imagine you could connect to many WiFi locations as long as you already connected and saved those WiFi locations. But a WiFi only tablet can't connect at all times, how can you expect your watch to?
Here's what I have found:
My setup: Nexus 6 with Moto 360 5.1.1
On WiFi (same network) - BT off, I can receive texts, reply to texts, send texts. Once I turn off the WiFi on my phone, I no longer get notifications because the phone no longer knows where the phone is to send the notifications to. I think that makes sense. As others have said, the watch is always slave to the phone, however it is connected - WiFi or BT. But I do think that it was not designed to be independent of the phone, so you can't simply leave your phone at home and go out and expect to have notifications even if the watch is connected on WiFi.
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Here's what I have found:
My setup: Nexus 6 with Moto 360 5.1.1
On WiFi (same network) - BT off, I can receive texts, reply to texts, send texts. Once I turn off the WiFi on my phone, I no longer get notifications because the phone no longer knows where the phone is to send the notifications to. I think that makes sense. As others have said, the watch is always slave to the phone, however it is connected - WiFi or BT. But I do think that it was not designed to be independent of the phone, so you can't simply leave your phone at home and go out and expect to have notifications even if the watch is connected on WiFi.
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I don't understand why "slave" would require the watch and phone to be on the same network. If the data is synced via the Cloud then the watch can still operate as a slave, meaning it will receive but not generate notifications.
Furthermore, it still doesn't explain why Google states that this wifi feature allows us to "stay synced at any distance over the internet", and why they state that the wifi feature requires the Cloud Sync feature to be enabled. if Cloud Sync is not meant to sync notifications over the cloud, then what exactly IS being sync'd over the cloud?
When you set up the watch, you have to pair it via BT using the phone. That authenticates the watch hardware with your account on your phone. If the phone and watch are not on the same network, how would your watch authenticate against your account? It's not like there's any account login option for the watch itself, hence it slaved to your phone on the same WiFi network. Since the watch has no real input options other than voice and swiping, there's no way to authenticate your watch to your account. I think it's wise that they set it up this way, albeit, a bit confusing how they worded the WiFi capabilities.
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When you set up the watch, you have to pair it via BT using the phone. That authenticates the watch hardware with your account on your phone. If the phone and watch are not on the same network, how would your watch authenticate against your account? It's not like there's any account login option for the watch itself, hence it slaved to your phone on the same WiFi network. Since the watch has no real input options other than voice and swiping, there's no way to authenticate your watch to your account. I think it's wise that they set it up this way, albeit, a bit confusing how they worded the WiFi capabilities.
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Ok, putting aside the confusing language in Google's own description (that no one can explain), let me simplify my question: What is Cloud Sync?
Btw, authentication could be taken care of with a token. That would be generated by the Cloud and sent to the phone when the Cloud Sync feature is first enabled, and would be sent to the watch initially via BT and then used to authenticate the watch to the Cloud whenever needed. Token would be invalidated by the Cloud if/when Cloud Sync is disabled on the phone (for example, if the watch is stolen). This is roughly how I expected it to work. If somehow the watch and phone need to be on the same wifi network then this feature is 90% useless IMO, and Google's description is very misleading.
I stand corrected. I think it does work the way you suggest, but not 100%.
I connected my watch to my other phone's hotspot and am able to send/receive texts and emails to my watch. I turned off WiFi on my phone as well as the BT. It takes a while for it to connect and I assume authenticate using a token.
After a while though, like just now, I received a text on my watch but couldn't reply to it, the watching saying "Sorry that didn't work, try again".
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I stand corrected. I think it does work the way you suggest, but not 100%.
I connected my watch to my other phone's hotspot and am able to send/receive texts and emails to my watch. I turned off WiFi on my phone as well as the BT. It takes a while for it to connect and I assume authenticate using a token.
After a while though, like just now, I received a text on my watch but couldn't reply to it, the watching saying "Sorry that didn't work, try again".
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Cool, thanks for testing this. Now if I can get my own watch to work then I'll be happy
By the way, the diagram at the bottom of this page seems to confirm that the watch should be able to sync notification data with the Cloud without any direct connectivity to the phone:
http://developer.android.com/training/wearables/data-layer/index.html
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Really? Isn't IPv4 kicking the bucket officially real soon like?
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The moto 360 doesn't support ipv6 that's for sure. But really that's a non issue, as far as them shutting down ipv4 it won't be for a long time. At least longer than the life cycle of the moto 360 anyways. The Ipv6 adoption is only more prevalent in the U. S. for the most part.
Also as far as a phone using ipv6 only I'm sure Google has some sort of protocol like NAT64 boxes in order for ipv6 to talk to ipv4 so it shouldn't matter if your phone is using ipv6 (but of course I could be wrong about that I'm just making that assumption they do have some sort of protocol to handle that)
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The moto 360 doesn't support ipv6 that's for sure. But really that's a non issue, as far as them shutting down ipv4 it won't be for a long time. At least longer than the life cycle of the moto 360 anyways. The Ipv6 adoption is only more prevalent in the U. S. for the most part.
Also as far as a phone using ipv6 only I'm sure Google has some sort of protocol like NAT64 boxes in order for ipv6 to talk to ipv4 so it shouldn't matter if your phone is using ipv6 (but of course I could be wrong about that I'm just making that assumption they do have some sort of protocol to handle that)
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I am pretty sure that the phone and watch do not talk to each other directly over wifi so this IPv4-IPV6 mismatch should be a non-issue provided each one of them can reach the internet.
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I am pretty sure that the phone and watch do not talk to each other directly over wifi so this IPv4-IPV6 mismatch should be a non-issue provided each one of them can reach the internet.
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Yes absolutely true. I meant to word the second paragraph in my statement in a way in which I meant suppose ipv4 was shut down in the near future I'm sure Google has someway to communicate with legacy devices so notifications could still be pushed to the watch. Hope that clarifies things.
Hi
If I understand correctly the wifi will only work if the phone is close by
I read elsewhere that other smart watches will connect directly to wifi
even if the phone is not on
can someone please clarify & will this option come with future updates ?
Thanks
The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
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The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
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Thanks Foo
But it doesn't seem to be the case with mine
If I am at home or at work it will connect easily with the Wifi but only if the phone is there
without the phone its saying disconnected , maybe I am missing something
I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
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I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
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Strange
with my phone on no problems it shows my house & work network on the watch & connects showing the correct SSID
with phone off I tested it 2 ways 1 clicked on google app (disconnected ) 2 Settings- About -Connection (disconnected )
Brgds
I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
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I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
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Yes
I checked a few things, my phone was on & the google app works, turn phone off & the google app says disconnected
in wifi settings even with phone off it says obtaining IP then connects so I thought it would connect to google app
so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
Thanks for taking the time to clarify
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so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet
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correct
tclough said:
but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
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it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
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it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
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all seems a bit pointless to have a wifi connection but cant really use it do anything
maybe some apps or updates in the future that will utilize the wifi option ??
Thx
I guess wifi is just helpful if you get out of range of the Bluetooth connection.
At home I often get out of range of the Bluetooth connection so the watch connects to my wifi and reconnects to my watch via cloudsync as long as I stay out of Bluetooth range.
When the watch gets back in reach it connects via Bluetooth again, because this is much better for battery life.
So wifi is only there to increase range but unfortunately not for standalone functionality. I also have a Youtube client and a webbrowser on my watch (just for fun, not really useful). Both apps also need the watch and will not use a direct wifi connection to load videos/websites from the Internet.